Mother Nature, the biggest oil polluter on Earth
posted at 5:15 pm on July 14, 2008 by Ed Morrissey
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Senator Jim DeMint has joined the effort to bring a little rationality to American energy policy. His office has clipped this video from Fox News that talks about the issues of increasing domestic production — and exposes the greatest oil-spill polluter on Earth. It’s a real mother:
DeMint’s office provided this handy chart, showing the 63% that nature itself puts in the water as oil seeps from natural vents.
Now, some can say that the percentage due to spills from drilling and extraction remains low because we restrict that activity — but we don’t restrict it everywhere, and drilling spills have become very rare. On the other hand, we keep buying more of our oil from abroad, which means we have to bring more of it by big tanker across a much longer voyage, and that brings more risk. Already it accounts for four times as much as drilling and extraction spillage, and it could get worse:
Considering that U.S. oil consumption and oil imports have steadily increased, the trend of declining spill incidents and volume in past years is noteworthy. Yet, recent annual data indicate that the overall decline of annual spill events may have stopped. Both consumption and imports are projected to maintain upward movement, and the United States is expected to increase the proportion of its imported oil. More oil-carrying vessels will be entering U.S. waters, and a higher percentage of transported oil will likely travel by vessel. The threat of oil spills may increase if more oil is being transported into and around the nation.
Enhancing domestic production would reduce opportunity for environmental damage. Further, opening up oil shale and other land-based oil reserves would eliminate risk for shore spills altogether. More importantly, it would put the US on a path to greater energy independence, create jobs, and slow down the massive transfers of wealth from America to nations of questionable friendship with us, or worse.
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We need him to straighten this out.
BTW, according to Snopes, this guy was not an Indian…so I guess it fits.
right2bright on July 14, 2008 at 5:21 PM
Don’t let this get out or else the Dems and the U.N. will look to tax Mother Nature, and require the purchase of more carbon credits!
singlemalt_18 on July 14, 2008 at 5:21 PM
Someone send that to Harry Reid and the rest of the Dems.
becki51758 on July 14, 2008 at 5:23 PM
Silly Conservatives, tricks are for kids! We all knowing liberals don’t believe FACTS.
abinitioadinfinitum on July 14, 2008 at 5:23 PM
Years ago (in the 1950’s) walking along the beach in So. Calif. My parents would wipe our feet with gasoline before getting into the car because of the oil and tar stains on our feet. I remember large oil slicks and tar “globs” floating on the water, all naturally occurring.
right2bright on July 14, 2008 at 5:23 PM
Oil Seeps have been around for eons. China, Scottland, England, U.S., Russia, etc. Hmmmmmmmm wonder where they got the “oil” to do feild fires for wars?
It is like “Mother Earth” has a blemish and that is just the zit that popped.
upinak on July 14, 2008 at 5:24 PM
So would it be a stretch to say that Mother Nature herself makes Reid sick?
bbz123 on July 14, 2008 at 5:25 PM
I can not say this more simply – I’m angry. I intend to work over the next several months to ensure that the Americans that I know understand that it is the fault of Democrats that we have remained unable to tap the resources of our nation and take control of this potentially desperate situation.
This is not a new issue, but it gets larger every day. Today, I ate lunch in a near empty restaurant. The waitress told me that business has been way down since gas went up. This is going to ripple through our economy like a tsunami.
Wise Golden on July 14, 2008 at 5:26 PM
Well finally the push back on environmental crazy wackos has began. i think the environmental movement is going to go into its own winter. when energy prices were low people could afford to be enfvironmentally friendly and they could afford to overlook the more crazy ideas of the environmental wackos. that is no longer case.
with the increase in energy costs. People are going to start looking closer at these groups and the polices that advocate and how those policies impact their wallets.
unseen on July 14, 2008 at 5:26 PM
Imagine that. Don’t mess with Mother Nature, ya’ll.
Califemme on July 14, 2008 at 5:26 PM
It’s not nice to fool Mother Nature….
becki51758 on July 14, 2008 at 5:27 PM
Incidently, by drilling, we reduce transporting (which by the way also saves fuel.)
Wise Golden on July 14, 2008 at 5:27 PM
Spot on, Ed. It is amazing how deep the hooks of the environmental lobby extend into Congress. If those hooks were removed, our Country would be on a fast track to energy independence in no time. If only. . .
Troy Rasmussen on July 14, 2008 at 5:27 PM
Facts? You think facts have a place in this debate? Your blasphemy against Mother Gaia requires a hefty purchase of Algore approved carbon credits and you will kneel and recite the words to “Big Yellow Taxi” five times.
trubble on July 14, 2008 at 5:28 PM
now if they could just find Jed Clammett and arrest him for causing this natural seep. :)
unseen on July 14, 2008 at 5:29 PM
Republicans should jump on this issue and TAKE BACK Congress. Yes, most of America is too busy to pay attention to all the little nuances of economics, but when it’s PERSONAL, they do pay attention.
Let’s get some straight talk out there about:
1) how opening up ANWR would force downward pressure on oil futures which WILL cause the price to come down at the pump,
2) every freaking *!)(*&!@#&^#@ time some idiot liberal says “it would take 10 years to get a drop out” we should respond “Then we d@mn well better get to it, and how long will it take to get your alternate energy source ready, and what the freak are we supposed to do with all the oil based engines that currently run our world?”
3) Putting corn in our stomachs and not our cars.
4) Ending taxes on getting oil from our FRIENDS in Cananda and sugar based fuels from Brazil.
Thank GOODNESS for DeMint, McConnell, Bond, etc.
JustTruth101 on July 14, 2008 at 5:30 PM
Lord, my mother said she used to rub my gums with whiskey when I was teething but this one really takes the cake.
BigD on July 14, 2008 at 5:31 PM
With so many natural oil leaks into the ocean, we just need to get lots of oil rigs out there to plug ‘em up and channel ‘em into a pipeline to a refinery!
Go get ‘em, Senator DeMint!
Steve Z on July 14, 2008 at 5:31 PM
The democrats are cracking up as their lies become known to their brainwashed constituents. Their “chicken little” impersonations are getting comical. They promised CHANGE in 2006. Gas was 2.00 a gallon and the unemployment rate was under 5%. They’ve given us all the change we can stand.
volsense on July 14, 2008 at 5:32 PM
Gee, someone should put a pipe into the ground where the oil seeps out, drain all the oil from that porrus area and then there won’t be any more oil seeping out!
That would be GENIUS!!!!
wise_man on July 14, 2008 at 5:32 PM
Why does Fox show the 1% slice so huge?
chriscoolc on July 14, 2008 at 5:33 PM
forgot a goreat one
5) If we pumped the oil in ANWR and utilized our shale reserves, WE would be a major SUPPLIER to the world, and all the jobs that come from that (including manufacturing building ships/rigs/etc.) would make the US economy the envy of the world.
JustTruth101 on July 14, 2008 at 5:33 PM
Nancy Pelosi tells American’s to cut back while she demands a larger jet for herself and her family so that they can waste 25,000 gallons of jet fuel each week going to California (on the tax payers dime.) Arnold Schwartaneger says that GWB doesn’t believe in Global Warming, while Arnold commutes from LA to Sacramento everyday on a personal jet (also on the tax payers dime!) I ask you, what’s worse, not believing, or believing and not acting?
I’m seething. I’m absolutely seething. And I demand that those jets be grounded immediately, or that they pay for them themselves. It’s issues like this that make me consider running for congress.
Wise Golden on July 14, 2008 at 5:34 PM
Our Mother Nature is indeed a polluter. We have volcanoes, lightening that start fires, bugs eating crops, oil coming out of our oceans from deep down, it goes on and on. MAN does not do one of these things. I am sooo tired of hearing I am killing the planet by using a plastic bag.
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letget on July 14, 2008 at 5:34 PM
Nice facts, but unfortunately the left doesn’t care about facts. Oil is an Evil Capitalist substance, best done away with in favor of government subsidized sources of energy.
The want higher prices. They want less production. Environmental concerns are a concern only to the exent of placating bunny-hugging lefty voters and NIMBYists.
Hollowpoint on July 14, 2008 at 5:35 PM
The last two things that you said are not factual. The first two are dead on.
Wise Golden on July 14, 2008 at 5:36 PM
For the record…….Mother Nature IS NOT a Republican and is no kin to the Bush family.
volsense on July 14, 2008 at 5:36 PM
That is a great one. Get rid of the last two and insert the fifth one in that place.
Wise Golden on July 14, 2008 at 5:37 PM
ROFLMAO!!!!
But is she related to HALIBURTON????
Texas Gal on July 14, 2008 at 5:39 PM
Man produces 4% of the CO2 on Earth. We’re going to fix GW by focusing on the 4%. It’s just gotten so crazy…
Wise Golden on July 14, 2008 at 5:39 PM
Oops, I meant to say the 4%, but the 1% slice is still as inflated as the 4% slice. In a story about wrong perceptions, one might think it important to portray things accurately. Inflating the 4% slice looks like them trying to make it look like transport is more of a contributor than it really is.
chriscoolc on July 14, 2008 at 5:41 PM
And how do you release some of that pressure that results in natural seepage from the sea floor? Drill a hole in the sea bed and collect the oil.
RBMN on July 14, 2008 at 5:41 PM
Well how do you think BLM and USGS and the Navy began claiming land for their Preserves…. aka Oil Seeps! They have been doing it since 1910. Look it up if you are curious!
upinak on July 14, 2008 at 5:44 PM
the left are now shifting to using Govt. estimates that claim ANWR would not produce much actual reduction in price of Oil, same for Off shore and how it’ll take years, and “not a real solution”…typical b.s.
jp on July 14, 2008 at 5:45 PM
Ever shake up a coke and watch it explode. Same difference in drilling depending on oil, pressurization, carbonite facotrs of the formations and… Natural Gas!
Little hard to do, but hey the Producers and Explorations Companies have gotten around that… it is called Flaring!
upinak on July 14, 2008 at 5:45 PM
philosophically, the left is against capitalism and economic growth….similar to the Jihadist. Oil is the engine that produces this growth, not shocking they do all they can to block exploration
jp on July 14, 2008 at 5:46 PM
California wildfires produce as much CO2 as California industry and people.
Why don’t the moonbats ban wildfires?
JiangxiDad on July 14, 2008 at 5:46 PM
Just exactly how big is the earth’s carbon footprint and who is going to foot the bill for the carbon credits being paid to the Goracle and the lovely and gracious “I’ve Tipped” the Scale?
Branch Rickey on July 14, 2008 at 5:47 PM
It gets even more comical than that! They wont let logging companies cut down the dead trees that were killed by beetles. By removing the dead wood (and using it for lumber, paper, or even fuel that replaces carbon fuels,) you would likely eliminate the forest fire. But environmentalist say that forest fires are natural and that’s GOOD pollution that the Earth needs and wants! It’s insane!
Wise Golden on July 14, 2008 at 5:51 PM
Ever head of Lady Thatcher and the oil reserves in Scotland? North Shore drilling there? Any knowledge of history? Any knowledge of getting oil out of ground and to market? Anything? Anything?
Branch Rickey on July 14, 2008 at 5:52 PM
Canada and Mexico are America’s biggest oil suppliers.
Their stuff comes to us from pipelines, not tankers.
Nice try.
alphie on July 14, 2008 at 5:53 PM
Better to drill and use it than to let it seep out and lose it.
Chakra Hammer on July 14, 2008 at 5:54 PM
jp I can see why. Many in the geological field are sceptical. But with that said, the original geologists who orginally “estimated” the area of ANWR were usually conservative and estimated is smaller then it is. Former USGS Director in the 50’s, George Gist who also recently passed on a few months ago in California, was very much hands on Concerning ANWR. I trust his estimates, but like I said earlier, his estimates were conservative and were found to be in larger quantities then originally estimated.
upinak on July 14, 2008 at 5:56 PM
More oil naturally seeps into the Pacific Ocean off of Southern California in one month than was spilled from ALL NORTH AMERICAN drilling rigs in the entire decade of the 1990’s.
Beaches at Coal Oil Point used to be so saturated with oil in the 1930’s and 1940’s that people couldn’t swim there (hence the name Coal Oil Point). It stained the beaches all the way to Santa Barbara. When we started drilling and pumping oil, the natural seeps reduced in quantity and the beaches cleared up … until the major rig blowout in the 1970’s.
Natural seeps in the Gulf of Mexico are much larger than in Southern California.
Tarballs from natural seeps wash up on California beaches as far North has Half Moon Bay.
Some places in California, particularly on very hot days, oil from natural seeps can be found running down the shoulder of the road and dripping from rocks along the roadside. I remember in the 1990’s a sidewalk caught fire in Burbank from a natural gas seep exiting through cracks in the concrete.
It is about time someone gave wider attention to all of this.
crosspatch on July 14, 2008 at 5:57 PM
Look up ELF oil and check where they are drilling.
upinak on July 14, 2008 at 5:57 PM
I am getting quite a vibe from that post. Silante!
Branch Rickey on July 14, 2008 at 6:00 PM
Many on the left confuse the words “production,” “proven reserves,” and un-proven reserves.” The US has vastly larger unproven reserves than most people generally realize. In fact, we may have about a third of the worlds oil if we assume the unproven will become proven.
Wise Golden on July 14, 2008 at 6:02 PM
Thanks for the info. I am always looking for more information on energy (oil based) and cannot handle the no drill “weather as climate change” GAIA types.
;)
Branch Rickey on July 14, 2008 at 6:02 PM
Natural Gas is released from the ocean in the Bermuda Triangle in such vast quantities that some geologist have said that these releases could account for the Bermuda Triangle phenomena of missing planes and ships. Imagine releases so large that unfortunate ships fall from the surface of the water to the bottom of the ocean on a pillar of natural gas.
Wise Golden on July 14, 2008 at 6:06 PM
Wise, as I can say I am “public schooled” to a point (I did go to a private for a few years) it isn’t my problem they can not understand the sub variations of words and I can even with my substandard edumacation. I also can’t help the fact they do not listen or digest knowledge like a slug… if you catch my drift. I hate whiney little liberals who complain about oil, even here in my state and usually have a nice little word fling where they become either so ticked off they want to throw a punch or they storm off like a child. What is sad are the college educated rejects who went to these fancy colleges and seemed to not have learned anything… now that is depressing and I wish I could have been in their shoes.
All you can do is ask, and hope for an answer. If you think ELF is interesting there are others I can point out. I have met with many geophysists from overseas and can provide lists to sites or just names to google.
upinak on July 14, 2008 at 6:10 PM
So the oil that is shipped here does not matter?
Johan Klaus on July 14, 2008 at 6:10 PM
I am SOOO glad this is finally an issue. At Morro Bay last week I stepped in some of this natural seep oil and the stuff is STILL on my foot. I guess gasoline is the answer to getting it off.
Anyway, a local dirty little secret/legend is that the word Pismo means “tar” in Chumash Indian.
“Pismo Beach: Chumash word for tar which seeps naturally, was applied to land grant. “
NTWR on July 14, 2008 at 6:11 PM
It is more a tar based oil. Use turpintine before gasoline.
upinak on July 14, 2008 at 6:12 PM
We all know what must be done.
BAN MOTHER NATURE NOW!!!
Sir Loin on July 14, 2008 at 6:19 PM
La Brea tar pits. Yep, it’s oil.
Wise Golden on July 14, 2008 at 6:19 PM
Good plan! After the Hurricane Katrina story in New Orleans started to get slow, the MSM decided to rush out to the rigs in the Gulf of Mexico, figuring that they were probable leaking and spilling oil like crazy…after Katrina had hit them. When they discovered that the Gulf seeped way more oil naturally than the thimble-full that all the rigs lost, it quickly became a no-story.
Karmi on July 14, 2008 at 6:22 PM
“BAN MOTHER NATURE NOW!!!”
Mother nature always bats last.
crosspatch on July 14, 2008 at 6:22 PM
There was an article on MarketWatch.com recently that talked about drilling off Santa Barbara and how producing rigs had reduced seepage by an estimated 50%.
ospurt on July 14, 2008 at 6:24 PM
When I was in college I took a field geology class in the Berkeley hills, and we were taken by a house on a residential street. Garniss Curtis, prof emeritus at UC Berkeley, told us stories of when he was an undergrad and he and his frat brothers used to come to that place at night with matches to light the natural gas that leaked out of a fissure there. He said they’d toss in a match, watch it go WHOOMF, laugh like maniacs, and wait for the gas to build up enough so they could do it again.
Garniss said the house is built right on top of that fissure. If it’s once in those hills, I expect it is other places as well, although I expect not in enough volume to make it worth collecting.
Bob's Kid on July 14, 2008 at 6:25 PM
Don’t just talk about it call and write your congress critters and senators they must feel the heat worse than they did on immigration only their self preservation moves the fools to action and while your at it write John McCain.
dhunter on July 14, 2008 at 6:25 PM
IN 1969 we surfed throughout the oil spill. It was messy but didn’t kill us and cleaned itself up after a few months. (Yes gasoline or turpentine will do the trick!) The California coast always had little splotches of oil/tar floating around. But this is natural (as in the La Brea tar pits). BTW the local indian name for LA was “valley of smoke” as the LA basin temperature inversion trapped the campfire smoke in a haze that hung over what would become Los Angeles.
jerseyman on July 14, 2008 at 6:26 PM
This is great stuff. McCain needs to pick up with this baby and run with it.
Buy Danish on July 14, 2008 at 6:27 PM
When the Democrats stopped the drilling off the coast of California, some oil company or another sank what amounts to an inverted funnel over the worst of the seeps to collect the oil. It is like gold that just comes running out of the earth out there. Interesting thing is, during the last ice age some of those seeps were on land (sea levels were 300 to 400 feet lower then) so there are probably some amazing tar pits out there now covered with sediment that have fossils of animals in them. There would have been great pools of evaporating oil.
crosspatch on July 14, 2008 at 6:29 PM
The people who control the price of oil are OPEC. OPEC is controlled by a bunch of people from the ME. The people who control the amount of oil drilled in Canada are Canadian politicians. Despite the fact that gas is nearly 6 bucks a gallon there and 4 or 5 here, the Canadians are not allowing nearly as much drilling as they should. Nor are the Americans. There are unexplored oil patches in North Dakota, Montana, Saskatchewan, and Alberta. No one’s bothering to check those even though they are very sparsely populated and those who own the mineral rights and leasing agreements would be thrilled by the extra cash.
But whatever. We should just continue to have our oil controlled by a bunch of psychopaths from Saudi Arabia. Hooray!!!
mjk on July 14, 2008 at 6:33 PM
“Their stuff comes to us from pipelines, not tankers.”
No, not always. Oil is fungible. That means that Japan, for example might buy oil from, say Nigeria but arrange to have it shipped to the US East Coast and we, in turn, ship the same amount of oil from Alaska to Japan. On paper it would look like Alaskan oil was shipped to a New Jersey refinery and Nigerian oil to Japan, but it would actually be quite different.
crosspatch on July 14, 2008 at 6:39 PM
We should just let China and Cuba drill for oil off of our coast. Oh, wait a minute……
Johan Klaus on July 14, 2008 at 6:40 PM
If McCain needs to pick up this baby and run with it, maybe he should choose DeMint for Veep! Or maybe Sarah Palin…
Steve Z on July 14, 2008 at 6:43 PM
if we drilled and extracted oil, wouldn’t it by a zero sum formula reduce the amount of mother nature seepage?
I’m not sure I buy into the Peak Oil crap anyway, they seem to keep finding plenty of oil all the time. The Russians get oil from non-sedimentary areas anyway, and some of their scientists believe the oil is constantly regenerated in the center of the earth. Not from Dinosaurs…I mean that seems more reasonable to me…so call me crazy, but I don’t think it’s settled science.
kirkill on July 14, 2008 at 6:43 PM
Alphie does not understand that not everything is connected to a pipeline!
upinak on July 14, 2008 at 6:44 PM
Democrats lied.
Little fishiesEndangered species died.Dusty on July 14, 2008 at 6:45 PM
YAY another Non-believer of the Peak/Bell Curve!
upinak on July 14, 2008 at 6:46 PM
This kinda falls under the category of “I don’t fly because of a plane crash I saw on TV 10-20 years ago” (Forget about the millions of flights that go off w/o a hitch ever since)
In this case, forget about the 99% not caused by drilling. Let’s worry about the less than 1% that is caused by it. It might actually make it to 1% if we are not more cautious.
Planet Boulder on July 14, 2008 at 6:47 PM
DeMint can be counted on to bring some sense to this discussion. He really earned my respect last year when he opposed the McCain-Kennedy Immigration Reform Bill. He’s my Senator, and one of the few who actually listens to constituents. (I disowned L. Graham long ago.)
This is my first post on Hot Air.
Cheers, y’all!
Cody1991 on July 14, 2008 at 6:47 PM
Yes, it’s true that most oil bubbles up to the surface of the Earth and is dispersed on the surface. 90% is the figure I’ve read. Only a fraction of oil is accidently trapped in rock formations as it ascends from the pressure cooker of the Earth’s deep crust where it is made from ancient phytoplankton.
Tantor on July 14, 2008 at 6:53 PM
Not always true concerning the dispersal of oil to the surface.
upinak on July 14, 2008 at 6:58 PM
US Oil Imports, April ‘08 in Monthly-Thousand Barrels
Total – 397,556
From Canada – 76,019
From Mexico – 40,918
From Iraq – 20,383
From Nigeria – 36,636
From Saudi Arabia – 43,867
From Russia – 12,053
From Algeria – 18,945
From Angola – 17,743
Full summary here.
Care to comment Alphie?
Dusty on July 14, 2008 at 7:17 PM
You have to wonder about the LA basin, historians say the smog was there before the horses.
It’s gonna blow …. Too bad McCain has cleverly positioned himself on the wrong side of the facts.
October 1 is “D” day, the Democrat Marxists either have to renew the ban or let it expire. So there must be a vote or the offhsore drilling ban is kaput.
tarpon on July 14, 2008 at 7:52 PM
Thank you!
Branch Rickey on July 14, 2008 at 8:06 PM
WHAT!? 63%! We had better start drilling now before mother nature wastes all our oil!
boomer on July 14, 2008 at 8:12 PM
Looks like the Saudis have rewarded us with a few extra barrels for killin’ Shiites for ‘em, Dusty.
Here’s some more accurate numbers:
http://tonto.eia.doe.gov/dnav/pet/pet_move_impcus_a2_nus_ep00_im0_mbbl_a.htm
alphie on July 14, 2008 at 8:24 PM
Whatevs.
Who is the magical Fox Blond with the helmet hair? I saw her on the Tony Snow post, but fought off the urge to demand her identity in righteous honor of something … er … more important (life and death?).
But this is only oil in the oceans – who is she?!
Jaibones on July 14, 2008 at 8:25 PM
Horses? Where do they come into this?
Oldnuke on July 14, 2008 at 8:32 PM
Your link is for annualized imports and 2007 is the last year in the table. Dusty’s post is a monthly snapshot for April 2008. Don’t think you can say your numbers are more accurate, just that you have more numbers.
Martha McCallum, not sure about the spelling.
Oldnuke on July 14, 2008 at 8:45 PM
Look at the chart. Hmmm. How much comes from off shore oil drilling, and how much comes from a Prius with a leaking oil pan? Hmmm.
1% for the first, 32% for the second.
kurtzz3 on July 14, 2008 at 8:51 PM
The numbers fluctuate month to month, oldn, just like casualty figures from Iraq.
Better to get a full year for accuracy…
alphie on July 14, 2008 at 8:51 PM
Fluctuation of data was my point. Just my opinion but a better response to Dusty would have been “Where did you get your data?” Not mine’s better than yours. His data may be just as accurate as yours perhaps indicating a changing trend. With a link you could check. Like I said just my opinion.
Oldnuke on July 14, 2008 at 8:57 PM
Think of it this way………..
Hurricane Katrina hit in 2005. It was one of the most powerful storms evah to hit our country. How much oil was spilled from all of those platforms in the Gulf in the wake of Katrina’s mess?
Hmmmmm?
Exactly.
Dr.Cwac.Cwac on July 14, 2008 at 8:59 PM
[alphie on July 14, 2008 at 8:24 PM]
By your more accurate table imports by year, shows Canada and Mexico supplying 29.5% of all our imported oil in 2007.
My table of imports by month for 2008 shows in April ‘08 that Canada and Mexico supplied 29.4% of all imports for that month.
Regarding your Saudi snark, Saudi imports have been dropping since 2003 from 647,666 in 2003 to 543,208 in 2007, per your chart. Mine shows they are on course for about 556,000 this year.
You want to make a point that isn’t irrelevant or wrong?
Dusty on July 14, 2008 at 9:00 PM
Ainsley Earhardt, but thanks, bro. Just…wow.
Jaibones on July 14, 2008 at 9:00 PM
Boy, was this a surprise when I saw the report on Fox.
Of course, BDS will cause people to believe that under this administration, these type of natural occurrences have increased due to the flawed policies of Bush.
madmonkphotog on July 14, 2008 at 9:13 PM
Canada may well increase its export to the US but Mexico, # 2, will shrink. In ten years it may not even be self sufficient in oil. Nationalized oil industry at work!
burt on July 14, 2008 at 9:30 PM
[Dr.Cwac.Cwac on July 14, 2008 at 8:59 PM]
They’ll find a “wait for the wind” point in that somewhere.
Dusty on July 14, 2008 at 9:45 PM
You know, those casualty figures from Iraq have been “fluctuating” in a downward direction for quite some time now….
cs89 on July 14, 2008 at 10:05 PM
Three months, to be exact, cs89.
But how long can we afford to bribe every single Iraqi?
Not long after the Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac bailouts…
alphie on July 14, 2008 at 10:31 PM
[alphie on July 14, 2008 at 10:31 PM]
LOL. Mr. “One Year Is More Accurate” is using the latest three months. Now switch to Fannie and Freddie, so no one can catch you, Mr. Leprachaun.
You are a stitch, alphie.
Dusty on July 14, 2008 at 11:00 PM
Just great. You are managing to make me happy about the upcoming election with this kill and destroy everything attitude. Extracting oil shale is about as evil environmentally as I can imagine. Why not just lob nuclear bombs in the oil shale producing areas before extracting the oil shale–perhaps they would loosen up the soil a little or something?
thuja on July 14, 2008 at 11:05 PM
[thuja on July 14, 2008 at 11:05 PM]
Calm yourself, thuja. It’s only three or four states. :)
Dusty on July 14, 2008 at 11:20 PM
Drill now! Save the environment!
Dr. Charles G. Waugh on July 14, 2008 at 11:21 PM
Senator McCain is stuck in a tar pit of his own making: it is called ‘global warming’ and ‘climate change’. Its adherents believe that burning fossil fuel to produce electrical energy and run engines will produce so much ‘greenhouse gas’ that the whole world’s climate will heat up, with catastrophic results.
Never mind that this hypothesis (for that’s all it is) has long been disproved. Never mind that if the Earth did warm up a little, the results would be beneficial. Never mind that CO2 is such a minor ‘greenhouse gas’ that vastly more of it would not have the slightest effect.
No, never mind these facts. Senator McCain thinks he has to pander to the anti-capitalist, anti-growth Left. So he can’t advocate the real solution: dig, drill, and burn! We have plenty of fossil fuel, enough for a couple of centuries at least, and using it (along with nuclear energy and new inventions like algae-produced gasoline) we can have cheap, abundant energy for the foreseeable future.
If Senator McCain could take the lead, the American people would follow in a heartbeat. Americans are ‘can do’ people, not given to negativity and pessimism. But the Senator is stuck in the ‘global warming’ tarpit, and can only cry pitiably for something called ‘energy independence’.
Well, we’ll be independent when we start exploiting our own resources, and we can’t do that while our wannabe ‘leaders’ are stuck in a tar pit of junk science, faux environmentalism, and ‘can’t do’ pessimism.
Can somebody pull Senator McCain out of the tarpit, slap him in the face to wake him up, and tell him the truth?
MrLynn on July 14, 2008 at 11:27 PM
Your “exact” timeline is a bit short, according to this link (www.globalsecurity.org/military/ops/iraq_casualties.htm). Looks like at least a year of fairly steady declines to me.
And what do Fannie & Freddie have to do with Iraqi casualties? Are we giving subprime loans to Iraqis now? Or what’s your point?
Oh yeah, you don’t have one as usual….
cs89 on July 14, 2008 at 11:46 PM
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