No way are we going to displace people who have built a life in America…no matter what you want.
So make a choice, complain about it, or learn to negotiate your terms and come to grips that everything you want, you can’t have…life ain’t fair.

right2bright on July 15, 2008 at 1:03 AM

Last time I checked, deportation was still legal. We even remove citizenship from people who falsely obtain citizenship

If you knew what you were talking about, the immigration form had a check box for asylum…man you guys are so eager to prosecute, so eager to convict…that is why people like you can’t ever have control of the government, no different then the left wing extremists…both ready to convict without all the facts.right2bright on July 15, 2008 at 7:12 PM

asylum is granted by the government, not by the employer

I never said American workers were not good enough, I said many of the Mexicans outworked the spoiled American kids. Now if you want to debate that, fine, but I doubt you will win.right2bright on July 15, 2008 at 1:39 PM

Searching under ‘white’ in this thread

I could hardly keep a spoiled white kid working, but they (Hispanics) showed up for work everyday, and put in a full days work.They, like the Italian, Polish, Irish, Jews, Vietnamese, Chinese, come here to work…work the four letter word to a lot of spoiled people. I get it.
If you want to build a house, you take your American workers, I will take my Mexican workers, pay them the same and we will see who comes out ahead after the job is done.
right2bright on July 14, 2008 at 10:52 PM

He hired a Mexican, he must be a criminal”…
HAHAHAHAHAHAHA!…except, you guys really do think that, some pitiful Americans, land of the free…except if your skin ain’t the right color…and you, my fine vigilante friends, is how a minority loses confidence in the conservative party.
Class is over, it was fun dragging you guys out of the closet.
Sleep tight in your white sheets tonight…
And as I say, people like you never apologize, you just find another “victim”…shame on you, shame, shame, shame…

right2bright on July 16, 2008 at 12:38 AM

Let me see, you think I am liberal because I didn’t want to lose the black vote to the Dems, and I don’t want to lose the Latino vote to the Dems, so I guess that make me a liberal or you a racist because you don’t want or need their vote. I mean, only white men vote in your party, right? See, I can call you names also.
right2bright on July 14, 2008 at 8:50 PM

I think you are confusing respect with fear. Illegals tend to work harder for less money, and be more polite in the job setting precisely because they are illegal. It is such a useful tool – potential deportation

Orange County sheriff’s deputy Montoya says that the older Hispanic generation’s work ethic is fast disappearing among the gangbanging youngsters whom he sees.
“Now, it’s all about fast money, drugs, and sex.”

It may be that the willingness to work will plummet along with marriage rates, leading to even greater social problems than are now rife among Hispanics

Thanks MB4 for the link.

This again highlights the fact that breaking the law any justified law, results in mayhem. There is a reason why we have laws.. it’s called law and order.

Again, I’m seriously calling ICE on right2bright.

Well, I see that reasoned and thoughtful debate is beyond your capacity, probably never even you intention. You also show your own biases and bigotry through your continued offensive rhetoric.

I should have known you were nothing but a useless, shilling, Leftard troll. But I tried.

But you just keep pluggin on. I will do my best to just warn people off your inane drivel. “Don’t feed the troll” will be the rallying cry.

And I did apologize for the name calling, but your fauliure to reciprocate is further evidence that you are, indeed, a horse’s ass.

Now today, he (right2bright) shills for amnesty in order to justify his own business practices. It’s all clear as day.
Redhead Infidel on July 16, 2008 at 8:12 AM

He must still be hiring illegals as well….

I’m seriously calling ICE (and the mental health department) on this guy.

C’mon…he knowingly hired them…don’t be stupid…

DfDeportation on July 15, 2008 at 8:02 PM

I know, Df. I know. It’s never “unknowingly”. You can’t run a business and be that clueless to the real world. We all know how it works – especially in manual labor fields. Every employer KNOWS – and R2br knew (or he was the world’s dumbest businessman). He just did the bare minimum necessary so he didn’t get caught.

Now today, he shills for amnesty in order to justify his own business practices. It’s all clear as day.

I do think the whole rationale and extreme gyrations of justification from employers who have broken our immigration laws are amusing, though – don’t you? They all sound exactly the same: they trot out a tragic anecdote, they claim they dotted their i’s and crossed their t’s, and then go on to claim they were surprised – nay, SHOCKED – to discover that any of their employees were illegal aliens. “I swear, officer, I didn’t know!” Funny stuff, man.

Sleep tight in your white sheets tonight…

right2bright on July 16, 2008 at 12:38 AM

You are getting ever more hysterical. In your condition that is not a good sign.

Caught you being bigots, and you are angry at me.

right2bright on July 16, 2008 at 12:38 AM

The only thing that you have caught is a bad case of delirium and we, I anyway, feel sorry for you.

DfDeportation on July 15, 2008 at 11:20 PM
cannonball on July 16, 2008 at 12:05 AM
MB4 on July 16, 2008 at 12:19 AM
MadisonConservative on July 15, 2008 at 11:33 PM
catmman on July 15, 2008 at 8:33 PM

Look at that, 5 of a kind, must be jokers wild…what I played was you guys.
Caught you being bigots, and you are angry at me. Wake up and look in the mirror. We were “criminals” (still are according to some) even after most (not all yet) of the facts were shown, you little vigilantes.
“He hired a Mexican, he must be a criminal”…
HAHAHAHAHAHAHA!…except, you guys really do think that, some pitiful Americans, land of the free…except if your skin ain’t the right color…and you, my fine vigilante friends, is how a minority loses confidence in the conservative party.
Class is over, it was fun dragging you guys out of the closet.
Sleep tight in your white sheets tonight…
And as I say, people like you never apologize, you just find another “victim”…shame on you, shame, shame, shame…

MadisonConservative on July 15, 2008 at 11:33 PM

Wait! I want to hear that compelling argument. And about my pocho friends…

Like I said, the vigilante mentality…a woman was raped, let’s find us a Mexican to hang.

right2bright on July 15, 2008 at 10:51 PM

And like I said before you are demented. You really are.

right2bright on July 15, 2008 at 10:57 PM

Everyone, stop feeding this shamnesty-shill.

catmman on July 15, 2008 at 8:33 PM

Why do you think I used her as an example, think about it…it showed your worst bigotted side. You, without all the facts, and others, were calling her and me a criminal…never stopping and thinking why I would use this one example. And you continue with this:

I may not know all of the particulars of your specific situation, true. But given the facts you provided, what I said was pretty spot on. So there is nothing for me to apologize for on that front. Your omission, whether by accident or design was the problem.

Well next time, stop and gather facts, or ask a few questions…or is it easier to “hunt” those Mexicans down. Vigilantes, more interested in your little view of the world, then Americas freedom, Americas laws,
As I said, your kind never apologizes, never…the Mexican could be hanging from a tree, and you would say, “well with the facts that I had, I thought the Mexican was guilty”.
You are what makes America weak, you are just part of a mob…thanks for proving it, and now you can hate me for holding up the mirror.

C’mon…he knowingly hired them…don’t be stupid…

DfDeportation on July 15, 2008 at 8:02 PM

Like I said, the vigilante mentality…a woman was raped, let’s find us a Mexican to hang.
You are what destroys freedom, destroys America, you have your own justice, and you don’t need proof. No different, as I pointed out, to the extreme left.
Thanks for a great post, you made my point explicitly, better then I could ever.

And yes, I would wonder why I was attacked. I simply replied to what you wrote. I do see your point, but it is more nuanced than is necessary for this argument.

What your basically saying is that if a tree falls in the woods and no one sees it, did it happen? It’s a logical fallacy.

I may not know all of the particulars of your specific situation, true. But given the facts you provided, what I said was pretty spot on. So there is nothing for me to apologize for on that front. Your omission, whether by accident or design was the problem.

People like me honestly and openly state their opinions and address others’ inconsitencies so there is as little confusion in a debate as possible.

I do need to apologize to you for the name calling. It was uncalled for.

With that said, it is unfair for you to castigate dissenters to your comments when you failed to offer proper context or clarification; especially when said clarification comes after your engaged.

One of the news shows had an expose YEARS ago on some employers knowing full well they were hiring illegals, skipping paperwork and even at times helping them falsify it, picking them up and paying them under the table..etc. This was before all this border fiasco.

Redhead Infidel on July 15, 2008 at 4:52 PM

C’mon…he knowingly hired them…don’t be stupid…