McCain ad: “God’s Children”
posted at 9:15 am on July 11, 2008 by Ed Morrissey
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Team McCain has its latest ad out today, taken from a New Hampshire debate in June 2007, when John McCain soliloquized on the contributions of Hispanic citizens and residents to our efforts in Vietnam and Iraq. Titled “God’s Children”, the ad matches imagery to McCain’s impromptu salute:
My friends, I want you the next time you’re down in Washington, D.C., to go to the Vietnam War Memorial and look at the names engraved in black granite. You’ll find a whole lot of Hispanic names.
When you go to Iraq or Afghanistan today, you’re going to see a whole lot of people who are of Hispanic background. You’re even going to meet some of the few thousand that are still green card holders who are not even citizens of this country, who love this country so much that they’re willing to risk their lives in its service in order to accelerate their path to citizenship and enjoy the bountiful, blessed nation.
So let’s from time to time remember that these are God’s children. They must come into country legally, but they have enriched our culture and our nation as every generation of immigrants before them.
Thank you.
About the best that can be said for this clip is that it was much more effective in context than it is here. During the debate, the other candidates had described illegal immigrants as not much more than a plague upon the land. This response came spontaneously from McCain, defending the contributions of Hispanics in the US as a reminder to Republicans to keep the rhetoric from getting overheated.
Now, though, this ad sounds like a non-sequitur. He and Barack Obama are close in policy on immigration, to the point where conservatives have resigned themselves not to bring it up if McCain won’t. Unfortunately, this sounds now like a deliberate provocation to the Right, who in fairness have never — never — discounted the contributions of Hispanic citizens and legal residents, especially not their long history of service to this nation. The issue is illegal immigration and border security, not whether we know that Americans of Hispanic descent have risked and given their lives for us.
This is a monumentally stupid ad. It spends a full minute saying nothing about the issue it supposedly addresses, and it insults the intelligence of the people whom McCain is trying to woo. And I’m someone who has a little more sympathy for McCain’s efforts on immigration than most on the Right. Take two big steps backward, Senator McCain.
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Wimpy wimp wimps out.
Dude. Start attacking your weak opponent.
fogw on July 11, 2008 at 9:21 AM
Everytime I consider warming up to him, I’m slapped in the face.
The contribution I could consider making was just spent paying the hospital bills of the illegals he refuses to deport by attrition.
knob on July 11, 2008 at 9:22 AM
Wow. On the heels of Gramm this is radioactive.
500 comments for sure.
Limerick on July 11, 2008 at 9:22 AM
It’s pretty clear that McCain is running as an independent. He apparently views the Republican coalition, and incumbent Republicans, as unimportant.
McCain has clearly demonstrated that, if elected, he also plans to govern as an independent.
pilsener on July 11, 2008 at 9:22 AM
The illegal lobby (McCain included) don’t get it. Like you said, Ed, the issue isn’t immigrants (Hispanic or otherwise) who came here legally. I’m just as p*ssed at and ready to deport Irish or Italians who are here illegally.
I work for a software company, and I work with a lot of immigrants. I know what contributions they make to our society, and it really p*sses me off to hear that someone brilliant is about to get deported because their visa has run out while they were doing things the right way, and meanwhile these scum who snuck across the border are sucking our system dry.
Get a friggin’ clue McCain!!
crazy_legs on July 11, 2008 at 9:24 AM
wow. just how big IS the illegal amnesty Lobby?!
bridgetown on July 11, 2008 at 9:25 AM
OK. One more time.
.
I love legal immigrants.
I have a problem with illegal immigrants.
.
Get it?
the_moll on July 11, 2008 at 9:25 AM
I think McCain just figured out how to get votes – shameless pandering and non-sequiturs. I’m of the opinion that most voters are very stupid and can get easily distracted by comments such as the above. Only a small number is actually analytical about what candidates are -really- saying. Why do you think Obama is the nominee? Because he shoots rainbows out of his a$$ and whispers sweet non-sequiturs to the masses.
AlexB on July 11, 2008 at 9:25 AM
Every day I become more convinced Maverick WANTS to lose this election….either that or he is becoming insane.
David in ATL on July 11, 2008 at 9:27 AM
McCain, Listen here, – this is important:
WE DO NOT HATE HISPANICS YOU F**KING MORON!
We hate ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS who break our laws and think that they should not be rewarded with citizenship. THey should be DEPORTED you F**king idiot!
wise_man on July 11, 2008 at 9:27 AM
Really?! What conservatives are those?
Speak for yourself.
Redhead Infidel on July 11, 2008 at 9:28 AM
Oh, I don’t know. If you’re trying to draw centrist voters away from Obama, this might be effective in showing that you’re not an extreme right-winger. As for immigration hawks, this is not new information (Juan McAmnesty, anyone?) and I don’t think this changes their opinion one way or the other.
Kafir on July 11, 2008 at 9:28 AM
pilsener,
McCain is not running as an Independent, he’s running as a DemoncRAT.
The problem is his opponent is a Socialist.
We’re screwed 08″.
mountainmanbob on July 11, 2008 at 9:29 AM
McCains second “bus toss” in two days. First Gramm, now the entire conservative Republican base.
Obambi’s “must speak Spanish” remarks. Now this from McCain.
Must be La Raza week on the campaign trail…
catmman on July 11, 2008 at 9:30 AM
The winning issue will be ENERGY INDEPENDENCE, which touches all of “God’s children”, Senator, not micro-pandering for a niche voter bloc while alienating another.
Hit the problem hurting us all.
Damagingly high energy costs.
Skip the syrup.
(Barry needs that for his waffles.)
profitsbeard on July 11, 2008 at 9:31 AM
PANDER ALERT PANDER ALERT
Unfortunately for this guy his Gods Children CAN’T VOTE!!!
Someone please explain to this old fool how this voting thing works.
Bicyea on July 11, 2008 at 9:32 AM
Question:
Are we now opposed to ALL immigration?
This issue seems to have migrated from “illegal” immigrants, to ALL immigrants.
franksalterego on July 11, 2008 at 9:32 AM
Just another in a string of McCain classic hits:
Track 4 – “Opposition to ILLEGAL immigration is inherently racist.”
This is how McCain earns contempt from middle America, by taken an issue of rule of law, an objective issue, and redefining it as prejudice, an subjective issue. What issue is he honest on?
Sympathy?
Spirit of 1776 on July 11, 2008 at 9:33 AM
I get your point but disagree on the last part. I’ve seen several fence builders here who have recently stated they were beginning to come around. Those folks will be throwing him off the lifeboat again before I finish typing this. I just don’t understand how he can win without them.
Limerick on July 11, 2008 at 9:33 AM
I believe this ad is targeted at independents who he wants to vote for him, not Obama. Republicans have the reputation – by the left – of being intolerant racists. Of course this isn’t true. At least, no more so than the general population, or racist people on the left. Still, to my perspective, this seems to be an ad that says that McCain is different than other republicans.
Of course, we know this already – so thats why you might think that this a ‘deliberate provocation to the Right’. But I believe this ad is targeted to the center, or even the left, for whoever on the left is stupid enough to vote for a republican.
wise_man on July 11, 2008 at 9:35 AM
Unfortunately many illegals do vote. They have stolen a social security number to work. Who says they won’t vote. Them, plus the illegal immigrant supporters on the left who by default vote democrat who would never vote republican in their lifetime. McCain is looking for their vote, when in my opinion 99.9 percent of them are going to be voting for Obama anyway.
wise_man on July 11, 2008 at 9:37 AM
Except the vast majority (upwards of 60%) of voters want border security, and an end to illegal scumbags sucking our system dry. This (and energy independance) is a winning issue if he got on the right (in both senses of the word) side of it.
And what happens to those “jobs that Americans won’t do” for a buck twenty-five an hour when the illegals are magically granted amnesty and get union membership?
crazy_legs on July 11, 2008 at 9:38 AM
I hope everyone here votes this video down to one star.
wise_man on July 11, 2008 at 9:39 AM
Someone needs to ask McCain ( and Obama ) what they would do if the continent of Africa decided en masse to build millions of boats and sail over here. After all, there are many names of African Americans carved in black granite so shouldn’t we be open to the idea of letting the billion poorest of the world’s citizens sail to our shores where they can have better lives? Or is it just a Latin American fetish?
Buddahpundit on July 11, 2008 at 9:41 AM
BS. He’s not trying to woo us even in the slightest.
With Obama coming more towards the center on issues like Iraq, I really have no reason to vote for McCain whatsoever.
Esthier on July 11, 2008 at 9:41 AM
For us or The US?
The way that reads, Americans of Hispanic decent are still outsiders?
Swinehound on July 11, 2008 at 9:41 AM
If I want a tribute to Hispanics, I can get one during Hispanic Heritage Month. Or I can have a sit down with the In-laws. What I want from McCain is a blow-by-blow plan of how he proposes to deal with Illegal Immigration, which includes all ethnic and national groups. People, stop limiting Illegal Immigration to an Hispanic problem. Yes, I know the majority of Illegals are from Mexico and the border fence is joke. I’m just saying that the problem is that the entire immigration/deportation process needs a complete overhaul, much like the education department, neither of which will ever happen amongst the bureaucrats.
So, Mr. McCain, stop throwing me rainbows and lollipops (I can get that from Obama); give me a plan.
Mrs. Happy Housewife on July 11, 2008 at 9:41 AM
How many Conservative votes does McCain lose for every Hispanic vote gained?
Does he not read the research? Hispanics now and probably for the duration of McCain’s life will vote overwhelmingly Democrat. WTF is wrong with him? Why is he so stubborn on this issue? Honestly what is his goal? I hope he loses. I really do. If we’re going down the toilet then dammit, let Obama lead the charge. The Dem cockroaches will have no where to hide and no one to blame but themselves.
DerKrieger on July 11, 2008 at 9:43 AM
He isn’t done. Wait till he finishes his speech to La Raza next week. I’m betting that knocks him back in the polls and he has trouble recovering. It will be interpeted as thumb in the eye provocation by the fence builders. Bad move.
a capella on July 11, 2008 at 9:43 AM
He still does not get it.
This clinches it for me.
There is no way in hell I will be voting for McCain in Nov.
When Vets for McCain called me and asked me to join I told them I could not publicly support McCain. This ad and McCain’s lack of understanding, on this issue, has cost him one vote.
F15Mech on July 11, 2008 at 9:44 AM
Great analysis, Ed. It was a great impromptu comment when he made it. As a political ad it’s just more Hipandering by McShamnesty.
I still don’t understand his math.
Jaibones on July 11, 2008 at 9:44 AM
McCain is the worst GOP candidate at the worst possible moment. With two of the biggest issues favoring the GOP (energy and immigration), we have a candidate that takes the Dem approach to both.
DerKrieger on July 11, 2008 at 9:44 AM
The purpose of this ad is as simple as it is obvious:
McCain wants to put California in play.
And to that end it’s a good start. Regardless of polls, Barry’s not the kind of candidate your average guy in East LA’s got a lot in common with or sympathy for. And respect is a huge issue to him as well.
McCain’s showing him respect here.
I think this has a possibility to work.
Typhoon on July 11, 2008 at 9:45 AM
I guess this puts the whole “vote for McCain so we can pressure him in the right direction on this issue” argument to rest?
catmman on July 11, 2008 at 9:45 AM
McCain’s campaign obviously has some polling that shows him being competitive for Hispanic votes. That’s what this ad is driving at. It’s a pure pander to Hispanics. He got some pretty rousing applause at the LULAC meeting this week talking about the Hispanics who served with him in Vietnam and those who are serving now in Iraq, and he is going after those “traditional” Hispanics who value military service as opposed to Obama’s pure big-government approach to pandering. The Hispanics who are voters are naturalized citizens, and many of them are very patriotic. Republicans need to make headway with them or we will never be a majority party in this country again.
rockmom on July 11, 2008 at 9:46 AM
Mr McCain? I am not your freaking friend!!!!!!! Knock off that irritating line. God’s children( I understand “children” to mean people in general) are left to do their free will so stop using that phrase, too… because it means nothing constructive in the way you use it. Darn, my nose is gonna hurt from pinching it closed come November!
MNDavenotPC on July 11, 2008 at 9:46 AM
GOP candidates for the House and Senate need to distance themselves from McCain and run their own campaigns with strong Conservative themes. Any association with McCain will get them hammered by their Dem opponent.
DerKrieger on July 11, 2008 at 9:46 AM
and of course, as I was reminded during a townhall meeting with my Senator – “this guy is going to fix the illegal immigration problem”……right….
I guess we’re all just a bunch of bigots, right? Obviously, otherwise McCain wouldn’t be patronizing us with comments about “God’s Children” when dealing with the issue of ILLEGAL IMMIGRATION – it’s not even the same subject!
charlie36r on July 11, 2008 at 9:46 AM
Fine.
But remember, if you don’t participate in attempting to keep Obama out by voting for McCain (yes, this is how it actually works.) then you aren’t allowed to bitch and complain about Obama for the next 4 to 8 years because you never lifted a finger to stop Obama.
wise_man on July 11, 2008 at 9:47 AM
Priorities
1.Energy/Economy
2.Energy/Economy
3.Energy/Economy
4.Energy/Economy
5.Energy/Economy
6.Energy/Economy
7.Energy/Economy
8.Energy/Economy
9.Energy/Economy
10.Energy/Economy
11.Energy/Economy
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10 X 10 to the minus 10th. Immigration
In other words, so far down the list of MY priorities, it’s not even on the event horizon.
Funny,
how I get severely chastised and roundly criticised, whenever I tell someone I blindly pull the lever on a straight Republican ticket,
isn’t it.
franksalterego on July 11, 2008 at 9:47 AM
I’ll be back…. I’m going to go bang my head against the wall. The Democrats are TRYING to screw themselves up and it’s working and John keeps letting them back in.
Look, I’m FOR expanding immigration, but in NO way should a border jumping wetback get priority over someone in MY family who is coming through the right way.
Let’s get the people at immigration moving quickly to get these people here and border patrol staffed so that those coming illegally are sent back.
Better yet, let’s CHARGE $3,000 for an expedited green card and take the money away from the COYOTES, who charge EVEN MORE
originalpechanga on July 11, 2008 at 9:47 AM
Well, yeah, I’d say that says it best
charlie36r on July 11, 2008 at 9:48 AM
McJuan-McBOOSH-SHamnisty-MCLAME!
Channeling upcoming comments.
carbon_footprint on July 11, 2008 at 9:48 AM
That’s true. It isn’t new information, but McCain “promised” during the primaries that he “got it.” With ads like these, he’s only proving that he never did, and not only that, but he’s throwing it in our faces.
I’m still amazed that he got the nomination.
Esthier on July 11, 2008 at 9:48 AM
McCain needs to understand the difference between Legal and Illegal. No one here or anywhere else is opposed to Hispanics, just illegal immigration.
The GOP needs to stop cowering before the Hispanic ethnic lobbies and stress the difference between citizens and invaders. Stop lumping all Hispanics together.
DerKrieger on July 11, 2008 at 9:49 AM
While I’m on a roll this morning, here’s another thought:
I’ll bet if any polling organization nationally polls the question: Do you think the US has become a nation of whiners?” the majority reply will be yes.
Typhoon on July 11, 2008 at 9:50 AM
Do you think that because you are making this argument that it hasn’t been made many times before?
Then what’s your explanation for why he did it?
JiangxiDad on July 11, 2008 at 9:50 AM
Brilliant thought, F15. You are so right!
Obama is much more in tune with my own thoughts and feelings on this very important issue, and will certainly appoint judges and administrative officials who truly understand how important securing the border is to most Americans.
God bless you for your clarity!
Jaibones on July 11, 2008 at 9:50 AM
then let ‘God’s children’ vote for him.
I sure won’t.
right4life on July 11, 2008 at 9:51 AM
The sad thing is that I was making a website to support McCain, though I dont always agree with him, but mainly to point out his opponent.
It was looking good with YouTube videos, RSS feeds.
http://i34.tinypic.com/59wi35.jpg
But I guess why should I do it?
WoosterOh on July 11, 2008 at 9:51 AM
And I was so looking forward to a Giuliani vs Clinton election….
Halley on July 11, 2008 at 9:51 AM
It reminds them of their biggest issue against McCain — not smart. That’d be like Obama reminding Democrats that he flip-flopped and sold-out on FISA constantly. Do they know that? Sure. But they don’t need to be reminded by him.
amerpundit on July 11, 2008 at 9:53 AM
I haven’t warmed up to him at all. I just don’t want to be France.
Connie on July 11, 2008 at 9:53 AM
Not if it means tacitly encouraging illegals, and that is what his speech to La Raza is all about. The cost/benefit ratio on that doesn’t pencil out.
a capella on July 11, 2008 at 9:53 AM
New campaign slogan. “John McCain: Because I Don’t Want to Be France”
amerpundit on July 11, 2008 at 9:54 AM
I’m disgusted at the colossal ignorance, or blind hatred, exhibited by most of the comments in this thread. If you “don’t hate legal immigrants”, why are you so offended at an effort to win their votes? It’s a very good ad.
jgapinoy on July 11, 2008 at 9:55 AM
I believe we can still pressure him on that, but this thread will prove that I’m in a small minority(no pun intended) of Republicans who think so.
That has been my point about the illegal immigration issue all along. McCain has-to-have the law & order crowd to pull this out. I don’t understand how he is going to grab ahold of enough independents to make up for the lost L&O vote.
Limerick on July 11, 2008 at 9:56 AM
It’s the economy, stupid. Therefore, it’s the energy policy, stupid. Geez.
hillbillyjim on July 11, 2008 at 9:57 AM
Doubt it. Though I haven’t bought that line for quite some time.
Good for you. It’s not that low on my priorities, especially considering that illegal immigration directly affects our economy.
Esthier on July 11, 2008 at 9:57 AM
because he uses the same words to promote his amnesty plan.
right4life on July 11, 2008 at 9:57 AM
What is this bizarre fixation McCain has with Mexican immigrants, legal or otherwise, being “God’s children” to the implied exclusion of everybody else?
It’s weird.
And McCain is a freaking, utter, total disaster.
BigD on July 11, 2008 at 9:57 AM
Maybe RedPill was right and McCain won’t be the nominee after all. The New York Times is reporting that McCain is not a naturalized citizen.
JiangxiDad on July 11, 2008 at 9:58 AM
About the time I start thinking maybe McCain might just not be as bad a Republican nominee as I feared he forcefully reminds me of the many issues on which we disagree. To get my vote he needs to smile and wave and mouth platitudes….coz every time he discusses issues he slaps me upside the head and makes me think “how can I possibly vote for this man with whom I disagee with so very much!”
dustoffmom on July 11, 2008 at 9:58 AM
McCain is under the delusion that the people that voted for him and won him the primary must agree with his stance on immigration when it has been shown in polling that most of the idiots didn’t even realize what his true stance was. Not to mention that it is TOTALLY insulting to be lectured by him about appreciating Hispanic military people. We appreciate ALL military people REGARDLESS of race you stupid jerk. OMG. I hope he doesn’t run this ad in border states like my Texas where there are a lot of pissed off Repubs.
See you in O’Bama’s Spanish indoctrination camps……
mrsmwp on July 11, 2008 at 9:58 AM
I think mccain has a ‘bwana’ complex, where is is the wise ranch owner, and the mexican serfs are all singing kumbaya under his benign wise leadership…
right4life on July 11, 2008 at 9:58 AM
[Melodrama=on]
Oh, look everyone !!!…A politician, pandering to Hispanics !!!…Oh, the Humanity of it all !!!…Whatever shall we dooooooooo !!!
*heartache*
[Melodrama=off]
franksalterego on July 11, 2008 at 9:59 AM
First of all, “Illegal Immigrants” do not have the right to vote. McCain will fix that however.
Swinehound on July 11, 2008 at 10:00 AM
Shameless race pandering. He sets up a strawman enemy and then knocks it down. He may drive me away yet.
whitetop on July 11, 2008 at 10:00 AM
Pander to the Republicans :)
JiangxiDad on July 11, 2008 at 10:03 AM
Lake meade will be dry by 2021, not the river that feeds it, but the lake will be drained by drawing more than the river supplies.
A truly sad quote that I thought I would never hear in the U.S.A. The Governor of Tennessee said that his state would defend it’s borders, and this was in response to a land grab by Georgia, to gain access to the Tennessee river. A move to supply water to a thirsty Atlanta, that grew with no plan to supply basic needs to it’s residents.
H1-B visas are routinely used not for their original purpose but instead to replace high skilled American tech workers.
Yes America when it was young and immature needed immigration, but that time is past and we’re a mature nation now. It’s time we put our citizens needs and rights first, and profits and political power second.
DFCtomm on July 11, 2008 at 10:06 AM
They are still producing children (future workers) who will save social security and Medicaid.
Connie on July 11, 2008 at 10:07 AM
We shouldn’t have to constantly remind John he’s running as a Republican, identity politics is a signal to voters that substance is lacking, thats why Democrats practice it.
Try some identity of your own.
Speakup on July 11, 2008 at 10:07 AM
I fail to see how Obama is worse. He don’t “build the damn fence” and he doesn’t even understand how important border security is.
At least Obama isn’t calling us racist.
We’re colossally ignorant and blind and yet you’re the one who’s falling for the biggest pandering ad yet made by McCain.
And how is he trying to woo immigrants with this?
Seriously, what is with people who only equate Hispanics with immigrants? You’re just as bad as Geraldo.
He’s only trying to woo Hispanics, while calling those of us who disagree with illegal immigration racists for not realizing that Mexicans are people too as though that has anything to do with the topic of illegal immigration.
Esthier on July 11, 2008 at 10:08 AM
And no other race has children?
Esthier on July 11, 2008 at 10:09 AM
This is why I will vote against Obama by voting for McCain, but he will not get a dime from me.
How did we get stuck with him?
ctmom on July 11, 2008 at 10:10 AM
The funny things about this is that I am sure we could get a Law Professor somewhere to say he should be Crown King of the US and by default be awarded the Presidency.
But maybe we should play along with the NYT and claim he is not eligible to be president.
There is still time to get someone else.
WoosterOh on July 11, 2008 at 10:10 AM
Bill Quick made the case some time back that McCain is deliberately flipping off conservatives. He is betting the election that he can win – and consequently govern – without us:
Food for thought…
Laura on July 11, 2008 at 10:15 AM
Race doesn’t have anything to do with it. Americans are having fewer children and we won’t be able to sustain those programs. I don’t like it and I would like to see a reversal. People are getting pets instead. My inlaws had 11 children. I had 4 children. None of my kids has more than 2 children. Suggestions?
Connie on July 11, 2008 at 10:16 AM
Nah, I wouldn’t go that far…
Me too. Although, as you say, congressional conservatives have chosen to remain mum on this issue, McCain has made it clear already that he plans to tackle immigration reform as a number one issue. May has well put an ad up front about it.
Remember, Obama still leads McCain in Hispanic support 2-1.
JetBoy on July 11, 2008 at 10:16 AM
Yeah, we certainly need immigrants, as the native population doesn’t reproduce at a high enough rate. Of course the whole thing got messed up with the illegal crossings and the unassimilated illegal class that now exists. But imo, we would have many many new Americans of Mexican descent even if we had always done it legally.
JiangxiDad on July 11, 2008 at 10:16 AM
McCain is a modern day Benedict Arnold….plain & simple.
Hold my nose & vote? No, I’ll keep my honor & vote ONLY for patriots….none of which are running for president.
DwnSouthJukin on July 11, 2008 at 10:16 AM
This add is an attempt to short circuit the firestorm which will come from the right next week after the La Raza speech.
He’s attempting to once again, put the racist anti immigration label on those who oppose ILLEGAL immigration.
He’s taking a page out of the Dem playbook, and trying to frame the terms of the debate… as he did once before when he essentialy called us pro Law folks racist.
Won’t work, its too transparent.
Romeo13 on July 11, 2008 at 10:17 AM
I’ll believe that when I see it. Until then I just don’t. In fact I’d wager some pretty serious folding money against it.
Typhoon on July 11, 2008 at 10:18 AM
Then he loses. The number 1 issue is energy and the economy. That could be replaced by national defense if need be. Immigration reform can be in the top 5-10.
JiangxiDad on July 11, 2008 at 10:18 AM
Scary.
Connie on July 11, 2008 at 10:19 AM
Funny,
how Democrats pander for votes to every special interest group known to man, including those apologetic to terrorists, and those who’s only interest is, to throw the United States into economic chaos.
Yet,
When a Republican does it, we get our panties in a knot, as if it were the end of the world.
gedda’ grip
franksalterego on July 11, 2008 at 10:19 AM
Please. This whole, McCain is as bad as Obama joke went from lame to stupid the first 50 times it’s been said on this site. There is no way you can look at Obama and McCain can conclude this.
wise_man on July 11, 2008 at 10:19 AM
Nothing is going to come of that. Figures the MSM has nothing better to attack McCain on other than a tiny technicality of birth, that won’t make any difference.
JetBoy on July 11, 2008 at 10:20 AM
Methinks this is a clever way to boot both candidates!
JiangxiDad on July 11, 2008 at 10:20 AM
Ummmm…get rid of those programs?
mrsmwp on July 11, 2008 at 10:21 AM
That would be fine with me. We still need the workers, however.
Connie on July 11, 2008 at 10:24 AM
1. Reproduce
2. Import people
3. Cut benefits
4. All of the above
JiangxiDad on July 11, 2008 at 10:25 AM
It’s not about McCain. It’s about attempts to disqualify Obama for the same reason. It’s a shot across the bow.
JiangxiDad on July 11, 2008 at 10:27 AM
That’s the one most important thing.
Connie on July 11, 2008 at 10:27 AM
I agree…The economy and the war trump immigration reform. But I also agree with McCain that we really need to do something about it very soon. Ignoring it for another 4 more years isn’t an option anymore.
All the polls point to it. Believe it. But also, Hillary had a 2-1 margin of support from Hispanics over Obama at one time.
JetBoy on July 11, 2008 at 10:29 AM
Our standard of living got too high. We grew up too affluent. If we have too many kids, we can’t have all the goodies, or pay for college and grad school. That’s the fine mess we’ve got ourselves into.
(btw, you need more than two kids to replace two adults. )
JiangxiDad on July 11, 2008 at 10:31 AM
Well, I for one never wanted to make an issue of Obama’s supposed birth certificate…just as I never believed he is a Muslim.
But didn’t the issue of McCain’s birth come first? They fired the first shot.
JetBoy on July 11, 2008 at 10:32 AM
Growth potential is not unlimited. Every worker needs a minimum amount of resources to live, and to supply an ever growing population needed to feed an ever growing economy will require more resources than the environment can supply. Which will require all of us to resign ourselves to a much lower standard of living. We will come to resemble a third world country.
DFCtomm on July 11, 2008 at 10:33 AM
Blame the feminists.
Connie on July 11, 2008 at 10:34 AM
Hoo boy, now there’s a winning campaign strategy!
rockmom on July 11, 2008 at 10:34 AM
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