Iran tests missiles again, candidates react
posted at 10:10 am on July 9, 2008 by Ed Morrissey
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Iran tested its missile technology again, firing nine missiles in a transparent message to both Israel and the US. Saying that their missiles “will always be ready to launch”, the Iranian commander of the Revolutionary Guard Air Force warned that “empty psychological operations” would not intimidate Tehran. The White House told them to calm down:
Revolutionary Guards air force commander Hossein Salami said in televised comments that thousands of missiles were ready to be fired at “pre-determined targets.” Missiles were shown soaring from desert launchpads, leaving long vapor trails.
“We warn the enemies who intend to threaten us with military exercises and empty psychological operations that our hand will always be on the trigger and our missiles will always be ready to launch,” he said, according to ISNA news agency.
The White House told Iran to “refrain from further missile tests if they truly seek to gain the trust of the world.”
Both presidential candidates weighed in on the test. Barack Obama spoke to Matt Lauer on Today:
John McCain, meanwhile, responded with this statement:
Iran’s most recent missile tests demonstrate again the dangers it poses to its neighbors and to the wider region, especially Israel. Ballistic missile testing coupled with Iran’s continued refusal to cease its nuclear activities should unite the international community in efforts to counter Iran’s dangerous ambitions. Iran’s missile tests also demonstrate the need for effective missile defense now and in the future, and this includes missile defense in Europe as is planned with the Czech Republic and Poland. Working with our European and regional allies is the best way to meet the threat posed by Iran, not unilateral concessions that undermine multilateral diplomacy.
Obama’s response is a muddle. He wants “much tougher” economic sanctions, which the Bush administration would also like, but can’t get because of Russia and China. Obama then says we should “avoid provocation”, which contradicts his own statement about “much tougher” economic sanctions. Sanctions are provocations; otherwise, they wouldn’t work at all.
And let’s not forget how Obama acted when given the opportunity to impose tougher sanctions on Iran. He voted against the Kyl-Lieberman bill that named the Revolutionary Guard a terrorist organization, placing those tougher sanctions on the Iranian military and everyone associated with them. His website still brags about that vote, and Obama attacked Hillary Clinton for supporting it. Why? Maybe because he didn’t consider Iran a threat, until, you know, he did.
Also, listen to the first part of his response. Obama says he would first need to “gather intelligence” before responding. That’s very similar to what Obama said in a debate, in response to a Tim Russert question about his response to an attack on American cities conducted by al-Qaeda, identified by irrefutable evidence. How much intel does one need to gather on a missile test using well-known systems? It’s pretty clear they went up in the air, and it’s pretty clear that the Iranians openly challenged us with it.
He then walks through the tired “outsourcing” argument on diplomacy with Iran. The US has pursued a multilateral approach with Iran, leveraging the trading relationships with Iran’s partners in Europe. We do not have diplomatic relations with Iran for good reason — they sponsor terrorism around the world, targeting American assets and those of our allies. Democrats used to complain that Bush was a unilateralist, and now they complain that he’s not. It’s absurd, especially since the supposed partner with whom Obama would speak, Mahmoud Ahmadinejad, is the worst provocateur in the region.
McCain has this right. The best response to Iran’s missile testing is the rapid deployment of anti-missile technology within the range of the Shahab-2 and -3 missiles, as well as increased diplomatic and economic isolation.
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They could be using those missiles to deliver energy to remotes villages. Let’s not get too hasty. We must engage our cognitive skills, check the polls and not offend the Europeans.
Hening on July 9, 2008 at 10:14 AM
It seems to me that whether you like McCain’s other policies or not, we can argue about that while he keeps this country safe as president.
God help us all if Obama has to decide how to defend us. Or not.
Mommynator on July 9, 2008 at 10:15 AM
What’s the real deal with a missile defense system over Europe?
Who’s paying? How do we benefit? Why shouldn’t the Europeans have better offensive capabilities? Is this against Russia or Iran or both? Why not missile defense over the US?
I always thought this missile defense system has nothing to do with Iran.
JiangxiDad on July 9, 2008 at 10:17 AM
This is not the Iranian Missile Testing Program that I knew…
Dale in Atlanta on July 9, 2008 at 10:18 AM
Well if it’s anything like Obama’s 24 hour flip flop on his daughters interview (this is a good thing, no it wasn’t) – I’m sure he’ll be all for negotiating with Iran until they nuke us and then he’ll have re-explored the issue and thoughtfully changed his mind.
Skywise on July 9, 2008 at 10:18 AM
I assume you are a woman and mother. I pray to God that women and mothers start to get scared to death that Obama and the democrats don’t know how to protect you, and don’t even understand the nature of the threats.
Then you will see a landslide. And btw, they don’t.
JiangxiDad on July 9, 2008 at 10:20 AM
He should be kept of TV if he wants to win the election. Every time he talks about something he reveals how much of an idiot he really is.
Neo on July 9, 2008 at 10:20 AM
Bring on McCain’s League of Democracies to deliver the wished-for tougher economic sanctions.
jgapinoy on July 9, 2008 at 10:20 AM
I’m getting tired of seeing rows of pics of Obama’s face in the Blog column every day…I see it everywhere anyway (10 for every 1 McCain pic?)…can’t we shop some symbol over it, like the Laughing Man icon?
pseudonominus on July 9, 2008 at 10:21 AM
You mean we aren’t going to get the missile defense system over the U.S., but we are going to give it to the Euros? That’s nuts.
p40tiger on July 9, 2008 at 10:21 AM
Yep. Delivering kinetic energy to remote Israeli villages. Maybe some remote Saudi and Lebanese villages while they’re at it.
NeighborhoodCatLady on July 9, 2008 at 10:25 AM
” McCain has this right. The best response to Iran’s missile testing is the rapid deployment of anti-missile technology within the range of the Shahab-2 and -3 missiles, as well as increased diplomatic and economic isolation.”
Nuff said.
Obama is a dope pure and simple.
ambuldog on July 9, 2008 at 10:26 AM
The Israelis have this coming. I mean, with existing and all. Maybe they shouldn’t have used missiles in their wars against their neighbours, then Iran wouldn’t be threatening to use missiles against them. Stupid Israelis. – trying to use some people’s “bulldozer” logic from last week.
The speech President Bush made about the futility and foolishness of negotiating with people who just want to watch the world burn continues to resonate. The Democratic Messiah won’t change his tune of negotiating and “understanding” (and hope and change) no matter what happens. Loverly.
mjk on July 9, 2008 at 10:27 AM
How about Alfred E. Newman under that big cowboy hat? Or a real possum behind that fake seal?
NeighborhoodCatLady on July 9, 2008 at 10:27 AM
AP, 02/04/2011
Aristotle on July 9, 2008 at 10:28 AM
I didn’t say that. I asked.
JiangxiDad on July 9, 2008 at 10:30 AM
Does the US have a decent defensive missile on US soil????
mimi1220 on July 9, 2008 at 10:30 AM
His upcoming ‘ich bin ein Berliner’ speech will clarify that he never said we were farming out the negotiations to the Europeans. I can’t wait for the photos from that speech to his the American public as 150,000 Germans cheer him on.
This statement also points back to his Feb 29 speech that he would set up an ‘independent’ defense review board to oversee military equipment purchases. In other words the ‘experts’ at the current defense review board, who already vetted the Pentagon ‘experts’ purchasing decisions will have another layer of ‘independent’ experts vetting the vetters. Before this is over the U.S. Air Force will be flying F86 Sabers again. Add to that his committment to scrap the ‘unproven’ missile defense system while the Iranians are improving their missile capability. Madness.
Limerick on July 9, 2008 at 10:30 AM
Bibi’s plan is the best — a complete boycott of Iran’s oil and entire banking system.
They’ll start that, I believe, -after- Iran gets a nuke or two, and starts using its new leverage for troublemaking in the region.
AlexB on July 9, 2008 at 10:33 AM
I suppose something like that should be done as part of the kabuki theater foreplay. I’ve never been too impressed with the impact of economic sanctions, other than against South Africa. Too many cheaters chasing profit and Iran has a commodity everyone wants. But, it is part of the time honored ritual before bombs start to fall. Is there enough time to even fake it properly?
a capella on July 9, 2008 at 10:33 AM
As President, Obama would be Jimmy Carter, Jr., refusing to make decisions and taking action because he needs to gather further intelligence.
slp on July 9, 2008 at 10:34 AM
I sure hope the nosecones have no preconditions.
profitsbeard on July 9, 2008 at 10:35 AM
p40, you need to pay more attention.
We have the defensive missile system where it’s needed, on the West Coast and aboard Navy ships. The Canadians aren’t going to launch on us, the Mexicans don’t have the wherewithal, and the Atlantic Ocean is too much for a Shahab or equivalent. Of course our missile defense is clearly labeled “Experimental, for testing purposes only” because that’s the only way it could get deployed given Congressional obstructionism, but it was plenty to provide significant input to the North Korean negotiations.
When the Iranians get atomic bombs (which they will; it will be the “hostage crisis” equivalent
for ObamaCarter II) Israel will be high on their targeting list, just as they’ve said from the beginning, but a few cities in eastern Europe are worth attention from their point of view, notably Vienna for historical reasons. The Israelis can take care of themselves with a little help — a lot of the software for the missile-defense system came from them — but it makes geopolitical sense for us to put up defensive systems to cover at least some Western targets.Regards,
Ric
warlocketx on July 9, 2008 at 10:38 AM
At the end of the clip, Obama makes it sound like the biggest threat of an Iranian nuke would be proliferation in the region. Yeah. A proliferation of mushroom clouds over Israel. (Europe and U.S. too?)
It’s looking more and more like Israel will act before we have a President Obama or McCain.
Ordinary1 on July 9, 2008 at 10:38 AM
Limerick on July 9, 2008 at 10:42 AM
This is why ‘talking to them’ won’t work. They just said yesterday that they didn’t want war with Israel and the US. It’s sort of like the Mars Attacks movie where they go around saying ‘we come in peace’ as they are blowing everyone away with their ray guns.
Talk all you want, you will be blown away.
ThackerAgency on July 9, 2008 at 10:43 AM
Oh, sorry, that question looked to me as if you know we won’t have it.
p40tiger on July 9, 2008 at 10:45 AM
Number One Priority? I thought Iraq was Number One. Or was it Health Care?. Or was it Energy?
Agrippa2k on July 9, 2008 at 10:45 AM
Obama wants a “coherent policy” on Iran? That’s laughable since he’s yet to come up with one himself.
CP on July 9, 2008 at 10:50 AM
Note to Obama handlers: No more speaking unscripted. Too risky.
petefrt on July 9, 2008 at 10:50 AM
We really need to get cracking on a defense against on electromagnetic pulse (EMP). Although a detonation of a nuclear warhead on US soil would be tragic, an EMP would cripple the country in an instant.
Check out this article at WorldNetDaily. See what the Iranians might be up to.
Congress examines EMP threat: Iran believed to test missiles for attack on U.S.
Dr.Cwac.Cwac on July 9, 2008 at 10:52 AM
Others have noted the same. A good and serious question should be who will run the government if he wins. Pelosi/Reid/Soros??
That is another good avenue of attack on him. Clearly, he doesn’t have the ability to lead the government. Somebody will.
JiangxiDad on July 9, 2008 at 10:56 AM
He ain’t exactly staking out a strong horse position in the world for us, is he?
a capella on July 9, 2008 at 10:56 AM
Harding civilian electronics against EMP would be impossible. I wish it were otherwise, but just not possible.
Limerick on July 9, 2008 at 10:57 AM
As we move closer to a showdown with Iran, Mr. Obama’s lack of credentials to protect our country will become more visible to the American public. Or not, he sure talks purty.
carbon_footprint on July 9, 2008 at 10:57 AM
Hardening (dern it Lim)
Limerick on July 9, 2008 at 10:57 AM
Reminded me of someone in a high school debate. When will we see the yet-to-be discovered genius of this highly educated man? Or did he peak at community organizer?
fogw on July 9, 2008 at 10:58 AM
Obama says juuuuuust enough, and uses juuuuuust big enough words to sound credible to the ignorant masses. He’s really the perfect puppet candidate for Soros and his gang.
marklmail on July 9, 2008 at 10:59 AM
Barry was on Capitol Hill this morning? That seems like a place he rarely visits lately.
/sarc
Dr.Cwac.Cwac on July 9, 2008 at 10:59 AM
This would also be a good time to delve a bit deeper into Pelosi’s interactions with FARC.
a capella on July 9, 2008 at 11:00 AM
Yes, I am a woman and mother – of a soldier in Iraq as well as two girls. None of our family’s women think like most women in this country. We’ve tried to use our minds instead of our emotions. We’re wary of people who try to use our emotions and have no substance to back up what we’re supposed to fall for.
Mommynator on July 9, 2008 at 11:02 AM
Getting the Russians and Chinese on board? Is he really that ignorant?
Every time the matter is brought before the UN Security Council the Russians and Chinese block any efforts to impose sanctions on the Iranians. Why? China is drawing massive amounts of oil from Iran for their booming economy and in trade, Iran is getting weapons and parts from China.
Exit question for Barry: How do you get 2 members of the UN Security Council to get on board with your plan for Iran when these same 2 nations are so heavily tied to Iran economically?
New Axis of Evil: Russia, China and Iran (and Venezuela)?
Dr.Cwac.Cwac on July 9, 2008 at 11:03 AM
Ummm….what? Details. We need details!
Dr.Cwac.Cwac on July 9, 2008 at 11:04 AM
McNumbnuts and hussein both got this wrong. The only answer to Iran is to flatten their government, their weapons and their terrorist army.
dogsoldier on July 9, 2008 at 11:06 AM
Bush is going to the Olympics opening ceremony. I assume Bush will explain that any regime change in Iran will not jeopardize Chinese access to world oil markets.
Fwiw, Bush’s recent overseas trips must have more of a purpose than just a final round of tourism.
JiangxiDad on July 9, 2008 at 11:07 AM
I think Michelle’s children can deliver a better response than what their old man just did…. just sayin.
Sergei on July 9, 2008 at 11:07 AM
Old Axis: Russia, China New members: Iran (Venezuela)?
Don’t forget 1947-1991. hehe
p40tiger on July 9, 2008 at 11:09 AM
He gets Russia on board with scrapping missile defense and withdrawing support for the expansion of NATO. This gives Russia the bigstick back to use in Eastern Europe. Putin would do back flips.
China. Never. They have no oil. Iran is their 401k for energy access.
Limerick on July 9, 2008 at 11:09 AM
Many thanks to your son, and your family, for helping me, and mine.
JiangxiDad on July 9, 2008 at 11:11 AM
Who/what was it aimed at? Wasn’t it always about challenging Russia?
Why is China’s oil necessarily threatened by regime change in Iran. Why not give assurance to China that contracts will be honored?
Limerick on July 9, 2008 at 11:09 AM
JiangxiDad on July 9, 2008 at 11:13 AM
Such a strategem would give the appearance that the Americans have reached the limits of their power. It seems better for the Americans that they show clearly their willingness to destroy an inimical ruling class, even when they don’t have the resources to go in and save their enemies’ subjects thereafter.
Kralizec on July 9, 2008 at 11:15 AM
NEED. MORE. INTEL. Before making a decision of any kind. I will apply this to my personal decisions. Let’s see, someone breaks into my house – need more information; someone steals my car – need more information; someone harms a family member – need more information. There, I feel much better just going through that little exercise. Thanks, Barry and the Dems, for showing us the way to peace and serenity – as opposed to the warmongering McBush twins, John and George W.
Rick on July 9, 2008 at 11:15 AM
We need a more coherent Policy? Has he even made a coherent statement towards the middle east? Or towards the economy? Or towards anything? Obama isn’t even sure what he believes yet he says we need to be more coherent.
Rbastid on July 9, 2008 at 11:21 AM
Yes, I am a woman and mother – of a soldier in Iraq as well as two girls. None of our family’s women think like most women in this country. We’ve tried to use our minds instead of our emotions. We’re wary of people who try to use our emotions and have no substance to back up what we’re supposed to fall for.
Mommynator on July 9, 2008 at 11:02 AM
Well, I’m a woman and a mother and I’m not certain how most women in this country think, but I suspect there are more of us (those thinking as you do) than most suspect. I hope so.
zeebeach on July 9, 2008 at 11:26 AM
Why is Iran doing this? Simple, the price of oil has started falling. Every time oil starts going down the thug in chief does or says something insane to get it going back up.
wildcat84 on July 9, 2008 at 11:27 AM
The only answer to Iran is to flatten their government, their weapons and their terrorist army. dogsoldier
DOG FOR PRESIDENT!
Tony737 on July 9, 2008 at 11:29 AM
I would have paid good money to watch an US Aegis Cruiser shoot down Iran’s Test Missiles. Just the looks on the Iranian Generals’ faces would have been worth all the tea in China.
It would even be funnier to watch them explain it to everyone once word spread.
Tyrs Fury on July 9, 2008 at 11:29 AM
Ref Russia. Just my take on the good Doctor’s comment about getting Russia on board. It is what I believe Barry would trade away for that.
Ref China. You make a good point. The only downside for China (IMO) is that a regime change in Iran takes away the enemy of my enemy is my friend logic.
Limerick on July 9, 2008 at 11:30 AM
I agree with Obama, he needs more ‘intelligence’.
Sounder on July 9, 2008 at 11:35 AM
This guy Salami needs to go hide himself.
fossten on July 9, 2008 at 11:35 AM
I loved the first reaction, it provides cover when he’s called on his policies or lack thereof.
swami on July 9, 2008 at 11:41 AM
This is way more scary to me than a nuclear attack. I wonder what Congress thinks?
becki51758 on July 9, 2008 at 11:50 AM
Our siting of missile defense assets in Europe has everything to do with Iran and is primarily a frontline defense for the US itself. US-bound Iranian missiles would overfly these bases and give us the ability to take an earlier shot rather than waiting until the Shahab is on our doorstep. Bonus points for defending NATO allies, but rest assured, this system is designed to protect the continental US first and foremost.
This map clearly illustrates why we’re deploying missile defense in Europe.
Cuffy Meigs on July 9, 2008 at 11:54 AM
Barry talked about the problem of US companies trading with Iran or doing business in Iran. Well, GE is still doing a lot of business in Iran and GE owns NBC. Did it seem like Lauer changed the subject quickly after that point was made? If Barry had any balls he would have called them on that, but he doesn’t want to anger his media handlers.
Mallard T. Drake on July 9, 2008 at 12:15 PM
Everything I ever wanted to know about global politics, I learned from my community organizer / jr. senator. Nearly 150 active days in the senate sure gives him the judgment and clairvoyance that is needed to make him leader of the free world.
Are we able to text in our votes on president yet?
Rogue Traveler on July 9, 2008 at 12:16 PM
I have a really hard time arguing against Obama needing more intelligence. But does he have to be soooooo needy?
dominigan on July 9, 2008 at 12:23 PM
I don’t think Ryan Seacrest has given us the green light to start voting.
Rick on July 9, 2008 at 12:27 PM
You have just listened to the man that the anti-McCain people want in the white house.
Obama–concessions, and financial carrots (ala Carter)
McCain–beef up the defense (ala Reagan)
And they say there is no difference, says the MDS society.
right2bright on July 9, 2008 at 12:54 PM
Always were the ones pulling the strings (Russia and China), Chavez is the wannabe, the Castro with oil and not sugar cane.
This is why the U.N. (among others) is so ineffective, Russia and China will block any exercise towards freedom, or defense of freedom.
right2bright on July 9, 2008 at 12:58 PM
GE is one of the biggest investors in Iran.
Barry voted against the Kyl/Lieberman resolution because the Nutroots decided that it was a stealth war authorization against Iran. Lieberman did everything but stand on his head to insist that it wasn’t, but Barry had his marching orders. The Nutroots are convinced that the Bushitler regime is going to figure out some way to invade Iran now that Iraq is winding down. Right before Bush cancels the election. It’s all right there at Daily Kos.
rockmom on July 9, 2008 at 12:59 PM
Getting nukes is not in Iran’s interest?
Gee, Barry, they don’t seem to think so.
Your out of your element kid.
RobCon on July 9, 2008 at 1:14 PM
Nuclear Arms race in the region??
Obviously Israel’s message is not getting through to many including Mr Oabama. You are going to have Nuclear WAR in the region, not an arms race. We are in the arms race phase NOW.
saus on July 9, 2008 at 1:17 PM
Well, the link to Obama’s website on Obama’s positions is wrong, misleading, and I think racist…
If I claimed that Obama believed that I’d be called partisan, misleading, and racist; wouldn’t I?
gekkobear on July 9, 2008 at 1:24 PM
This is an overlooked aspect of the war against radical Islam. It looks like the terrorists are on the ropes militarily right now, but this is a cultural and economic struggle as well.
Now if we could only get the libs in Congress to understand or care, and let us drill our own oil, we could win the economic battle more easily as well.
cs89 on July 9, 2008 at 1:27 PM
I think it is Obama’s strategy to taunt them by running away. And once they get good and worked up, we shall run away some more!
crosspatch on July 9, 2008 at 1:38 PM
OK, I think these guys are cool with possessing nukes, you?
Alden Pyle on July 9, 2008 at 1:43 PM
He needs to pimp out his daughters to some tv news show so they can twirl their pigtails and flutter their eye lashes at the camera, y’know pluck at their heart strings…what, he did?…this morning?…oh, um ok never mind.
Alden Pyle on July 9, 2008 at 1:46 PM
Yes Cuffy is correct, the deployments in Europe have a lot to do with radars & detection and time to kill. The key to missile defense is the 1st 30 seconds or so. You want to be able to have identified the launch & location of a missile within 8 seconds, and be on your way to sending up the ABM seconds later. There is not a lot of time, as missiles do not fly across the earth as a plane might, they go high up, and come back down cutting distance.
Deploying your shield assets in the US only – leaves a long time for your interceptors to close distance, you ideally want to hit the incoming threat in its boost phase or the atmosphere if that is not possible, especially if it is a WMD threat, not while it is on its way down over your country. The quicker you can go for a hit, the quicker you can also at least try to mitigate if you miss. Multiple ABMs will usually go up for each threat.
We are working very closely with the US on the next set of improvements to systems, the US congress has approved additional 200 million for joint US / Israel funding just recently as the Arrow system is less experimental & already fully deployed, and we want to work with your newest THAAD technologies too.
saus on July 9, 2008 at 1:50 PM
We’ll bring them to their knees with intense diplomacy. We’ll knock their socks off with sparkling negotiation.
We’ll engage in essential light banter and persiflage.
We’ll discuss and maybe even critique each other’s debating techniques.
Anybody check Obama’s batteries this week?
whitetop on July 9, 2008 at 1:52 PM
Still not clear about this. The map shows no ability to hit us with missiles for the forseeable future.
Missile defense in Europe must be only part of our strategy towards Iran. We can’t simply allow them to continue to militarize until they have missiles capable of reaching us. Sooner or later, they must have internal regime change, or it will have to be forced upon them. We can’t simply wait and hope to build better defenses.
What about Russia? If missile defense in Europe is primarily about Iran, why is Russia our principal adversary to its deployment. I doubt its because they love Iran. They see missile defense as a cold war tactic to build a new Maginot line between them and their former satellites.
Missile defense in Europe must have to do with Russia on the one hand, and Iran on the other. The Europeans seem all for it, (in spite of Poland’s little hissy fit) but that also doesn’t make it clear why. Do they fear Russia (after all, Russia cut off the gas recently, and assassinates people in western capitals), or Iran (Europeans are currently in missile range), or both?
Just what is their strategy on both those questions? I don’t think defense as a strategy without an offense is going to work.
JiangxiDad on July 9, 2008 at 1:53 PM
US mainland is not in range. Won’t be for a long time unless we allow it to happen.
Iran is already a threat to Israel. I understand the need for early warning. But Cuffy suggests that we build this to protect the US from future Iranian missiles.
Why should we allow Iran to progress that far? Is that our policy?
JiangxiDad on July 9, 2008 at 1:56 PM
Obama would make a terrific game show host, though.
“I’ll take Diplomatic Blunders for $200, Hussein.”
whitetop on July 9, 2008 at 1:57 PM
(Wow! Lots of comments already. I may be saying something already said.)
This is “saber-rattling.” Iran wants itself in a position of strength if and when someone (Israel, the United States, Europe) steps up in opposition to them. It is a way of saying “If you oppose us it will be at a high cost to you. Are you certain you want to pay the price?”
Wildcatter1980 on July 9, 2008 at 2:01 PM
Obama wants “intelligence”.
Earth to Obama: Open eyes. See Iranian missiles fly. This is a test. Imagine missiles with nukes landing in undivided Jerusalem. Think Jewish vote.
But we all know that Iran is such a tiny country, it’s not a threat. Because Hussein will be killing Ahmadinejad softly with his words, and all will be sweetness and light in HopeyChangeLand.
Steve Z on July 9, 2008 at 2:11 PM
I agree with you, it should not be. US intel estimates that Iranian missiles will be able to reach the US within the next 5-10 years. This is a long view, they already are demonstrating capability to send missiles with small payloads to space. Once they work out the details, that is all they need. An ICBM goes into space, and falls back down bringing everyone in range. This is a matter of working out technical details to add a stage to their rocket boosters on their existing Shahab-3 Missiles bringing them to Shahab-4.
No matter what you need defense, of course you correctly point out that the best way to deter a hostile missile threat is to remove the person who intends to launch the missile in the 1st place, not try and hit it out of the sky at 2000km per second or dozens of them at once and play guess which one carries the worst payload. That’s the difficulty we face in Israel, not a nuclear missile, but a hundred missiles with one carrying a nuclear payload.
We are the canary, whatever we are wrestling with, you can be assured within 5-10 years that tasy meal inevitably ends up dropping into your plate as well. The real problem is once they cross their threshold you are left with no options but defense ones, they remove your offensive capability. We in Israel cannot allow it to happen. Even the best goalie cannot stop every single soccer ball.
saus on July 9, 2008 at 2:30 PM
People, people. Don’t you know? It is not because he doesn’t have a position to stand on.
You guess it, it is the dumb us that do not get his true meaning.
/nuanced nuance
Sir Napsalot on July 9, 2008 at 2:45 PM
I understand and agree.
JiangxiDad on July 9, 2008 at 2:49 PM
Obama will get us all killed.
CliffHanger on July 9, 2008 at 3:28 PM
Iran fires six missiles in a row and all Obama can say is that we need to gather the intelligence. He did not utter a single word of warning to Iran. Obama can’t wait to become president… so he can surrender.
True.
Maxx on July 9, 2008 at 3:48 PM
Flight time from Iran to Tel Aviv=minutes.
-Missiles are tracked by innumerable US and allied satellites on radar as well as communications and imagery
-Iran ADMITS/BOASTS that it fired the missiles
-US forces in Gulf track the missiles
I agree w Ed…what more do you want to know about them? What more “intelligence” is needed, and given the minute flight time (pun intended) why doesn’t Sen Obama’s foreign policy advisor have the info for him half a day later? Oh yeah, it’s Susan Rice.
scottm on July 9, 2008 at 4:29 PM
Ed,
Admittedly,I didn’t read any posts on this thread…
.I gotta say…your last paragraph …way to go…
jerrytbg on July 9, 2008 at 5:17 PM
correction, last two….
jerrytbg on July 9, 2008 at 5:19 PM
not really…ever hear of cannon fodder?
jerrytbg on July 9, 2008 at 5:24 PM
Yaknow Doc….when i mention this even amongst friends,I’m looked at as some kind of quac,( no pun intended, well, maybe a little). I agree with you. DOD knows this. i just hope they have a plan.
I can get by without electricity or communication capability.
Hell, even no running water.
My fear is for the little ones whose parents can’t even get through a cat 1 hurricane.
jerrytbg on July 9, 2008 at 6:37 PM
Except the tests released by the hairy fat men were shopped. Does this mean I get a refund from today’s tank of gas. Does the stock market get a do over.
These guys in the non-free world have gamed us pretty well. No wonder Putin smiles. They have our psychology down pat. Hopefully exposing this fraud and the MSM’s gobbling up of it will help ease the run to the exits. Hopefully, pfft.
Putin and all those ME boys have E-Trade accounts with options and short selling. Those rascally rabbits. Thieving us like that. I reckon we got a mind to blow their f%cking sh#$t away at some point. Sadly that won’t happen because Russia mean and strong like Hulk, so hello poortown.
pc on July 10, 2008 at 12:14 AM
Obama’s toughness is the French variety; use both hands to wave the white flag to be sure it is seen.
Bubba Redneck on July 10, 2008 at 2:57 AM
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