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	<title>Comments on: Bob Herbert says this isn&#8217;t the Obama he thought he knew</title>
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		<title>By: platypus</title>
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		<dc:creator>platypus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Jul 2008 07:36:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This thread is NOT helping Michelle&#039;s children.</description>
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		<title>By: Stop The ACLU</title>
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		<dc:creator>Stop The ACLU</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Jul 2008 01:51:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Losing Hope in Obama?...&lt;/strong&gt;

Bob Herbert, a devoted leftist NY Times columnist, feels betrayal:
Only an idiot would think or hope that a politician going through the crucible of a presidential campaign could hold fast to every position, steer clear of the stumbling blocks of nuanc...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>Losing Hope in Obama?&#8230;</strong></p>
<p>Bob Herbert, a devoted leftist NY Times columnist, feels betrayal:<br />
Only an idiot would think or hope that a politician going through the crucible of a presidential campaign could hold fast to every position, steer clear of the stumbling blocks of nuanc&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: elvis</title>
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		<dc:creator>elvis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Jul 2008 01:14:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;

The Left are eating their own.

whitetop on July 8, 2008 at 7:29 PM
&lt;/blockquote&gt;...appeasing Gaia --</description>
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<p>The Left are eating their own.</p>
<p>whitetop on July 8, 2008 at 7:29 PM
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<p>&#8230;appeasing Gaia &#8211;</p>
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		<title>By: whitetop</title>
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		<dc:creator>whitetop</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Jul 2008 23:29:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Left are eating their own.</description>
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		<title>By: peacenprosperity</title>
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		<dc:creator>peacenprosperity</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Jul 2008 21:32:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Everything I’ve previously read suggests that African-American voters turn out in lower numbers than the general population&lt;/blockquote&gt;

That&#039;s why the democrats pray for good weather on election day and when the weather is bad they go to court to have the polls kept open.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Everything I’ve previously read suggests that African-American voters turn out in lower numbers than the general population</p></blockquote>
<p>That&#8217;s why the democrats pray for good weather on election day and when the weather is bad they go to court to have the polls kept open.</p>
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		<title>By: peacenprosperity</title>
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		<dc:creator>peacenprosperity</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Jul 2008 21:30:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;there is discontent among African-Americans over Mr. Obama’s move away from progressive issues, including his support of the Supreme Court’s decision affirming the constitutional right of individuals to bear arms.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Right, black Americans are up in arms, no pun intended, over that SCOTUS decision.  These leftist &quot;journalists&quot; just make stuff up as they go along.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>there is discontent among African-Americans over Mr. Obama’s move away from progressive issues, including his support of the Supreme Court’s decision affirming the constitutional right of individuals to bear arms.</p></blockquote>
<p>Right, black Americans are up in arms, no pun intended, over that SCOTUS decision.  These leftist &#8220;journalists&#8221; just make stuff up as they go along.</p>
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		<title>By: Hollowpoint</title>
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		<dc:creator>Hollowpoint</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Jul 2008 21:11:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;African-American voters traditionally turn out in much larger numbers than the general population, usually 70% or better.  &lt;/blockquote&gt;

Huh?  Got a cite for that?  Everything I&#039;ve previously read suggests that African-American voters turn out in lower numbers than the general population, &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.census.gov/population/socdemo/voting/tabA-1.xls&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;and nowhere near 70&lt;/a&gt;%.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>African-American voters traditionally turn out in much larger numbers than the general population, usually 70% or better.  </p></blockquote>
<p>Huh?  Got a cite for that?  Everything I&#8217;ve previously read suggests that African-American voters turn out in lower numbers than the general population, <a href="http://www.census.gov/population/socdemo/voting/tabA-1.xls" rel="nofollow">and nowhere near 70</a>%.</p>
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		<title>By: drunyan8315</title>
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		<dc:creator>drunyan8315</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Jul 2008 21:08:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;em&gt;Debates? Are there going to be debates?&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;

I look forward to the explanation of why multiple face-to-face debates were absolutely required to help the voters pick the right D and R candidates, but they are not really relelvant to the actual election for President.

And I look forward to reading that explanation in the New York Times, where I am sure I will in fact be reading it someday soon, as soon as Pinch has a brainwave on how to spin it.

By creating a candidate out of an empty suit just because they could, the media has now put in place a scenario that may not only result in a stinging defeat for the Democrats, but has exposed the bankruptcy of their claim of evenhanded truth-telling and special status as a guardian of the publics interests.

I hope they enjoy their slow death - I know I will.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p><em>Debates? Are there going to be debates?</em></p></blockquote>
<p>I look forward to the explanation of why multiple face-to-face debates were absolutely required to help the voters pick the right D and R candidates, but they are not really relelvant to the actual election for President.</p>
<p>And I look forward to reading that explanation in the New York Times, where I am sure I will in fact be reading it someday soon, as soon as Pinch has a brainwave on how to spin it.</p>
<p>By creating a candidate out of an empty suit just because they could, the media has now put in place a scenario that may not only result in a stinging defeat for the Democrats, but has exposed the bankruptcy of their claim of evenhanded truth-telling and special status as a guardian of the publics interests.</p>
<p>I hope they enjoy their slow death &#8211; I know I will.</p>
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		<title>By: Terrye</title>
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		<dc:creator>Terrye</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Jul 2008 20:48:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I wonder if this disillusionment will effect fund raising as well turn out?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I wonder if this disillusionment will effect fund raising as well turn out?</p>
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		<title>By: aero</title>
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		<dc:creator>aero</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Jul 2008 19:02:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bob Herbert et al: &quot;Where did our cute little pet Marxist go? We thought we had him on the leash. Well, that&#039;s okay--he&#039;s microchipped. Someone will probably return him to us after the election.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bob Herbert et al: &#8220;Where did our cute little pet Marxist go? We thought we had him on the leash. Well, that&#8217;s okay&#8211;he&#8217;s microchipped. Someone will probably return him to us after the election.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: drjohn</title>
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		<dc:creator>drjohn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Jul 2008 18:15:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>While Herbert is merely having indigestion, the meal has already been swallowed.What one hopes for is that undecideds will see the truth.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>While Herbert is merely having indigestion, the meal has already been swallowed.What one hopes for is that undecideds will see the truth.</p>
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		<title>By: JM Hanes</title>
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		<dc:creator>JM Hanes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Jul 2008 17:41:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The most significant change here is not that Obama may be disappointing committed voters, but that he&#039;s begun disappointing his cheerleaders in &lt;i&gt;the press&lt;/i&gt;.  Having long worried that wouldn&#039;t happen in time to affect his coverage in the general election, I&#039;m quite encouraged by the Herbert development here.  With a record as thin and as questionable as Obama&#039;s, he basically holds few substantive advantages.  Aside from a guaranteed block of black voters and a national case of Republican fatigue, the universal pass he&#039;s gotten from the press has been his most important asset.  More skepticism in those quarters could change the dynamics of the race entirely.  

As for the electorate itself, swooning true believers will probably continue to swoon, but a loss of enthusiasm among progressives could have real ramifications when it comes to manning critical GOTV operations.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The most significant change here is not that Obama may be disappointing committed voters, but that he&#8217;s begun disappointing his cheerleaders in <i>the press</i>.  Having long worried that wouldn&#8217;t happen in time to affect his coverage in the general election, I&#8217;m quite encouraged by the Herbert development here.  With a record as thin and as questionable as Obama&#8217;s, he basically holds few substantive advantages.  Aside from a guaranteed block of black voters and a national case of Republican fatigue, the universal pass he&#8217;s gotten from the press has been his most important asset.  More skepticism in those quarters could change the dynamics of the race entirely.  </p>
<p>As for the electorate itself, swooning true believers will probably continue to swoon, but a loss of enthusiasm among progressives could have real ramifications when it comes to manning critical GOTV operations.</p>
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		<title>By: jl</title>
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		<dc:creator>jl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Jul 2008 16:55:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;This is just more sophistry from Herbert. Business as usual.

Enrique on July 8, 2008 at 10:22 AM
Exactly. A very public correction that will go ignored, since Obambi and his handlers know a lot more about winning elections than Bob Herbert.

Jaibones on July 8, 2008 at 10:44 AM&lt;/blockquote&gt;

In other words, Bob Herbert doesn&#039;t even HAVE a bus.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>This is just more sophistry from Herbert. Business as usual.</p>
<p>Enrique on July 8, 2008 at 10:22 AM<br />
Exactly. A very public correction that will go ignored, since Obambi and his handlers know a lot more about winning elections than Bob Herbert.</p>
<p>Jaibones on July 8, 2008 at 10:44 AM</p></blockquote>
<p>In other words, Bob Herbert doesn&#8217;t even HAVE a bus.</p>
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		<title>By: profitsbeard</title>
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		<dc:creator>profitsbeard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Jul 2008 16:48:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Missy at 12:41 PM-

...weren&#039;t smart enough to to have registered in time.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Simple solution for that:

&lt;strong&gt;RegisterToVoteForObama.com&lt;/strong&gt; !

CHANGE HOPE BELIEVE!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Missy at 12:41 PM-</p>
<p>&#8230;weren&#8217;t smart enough to to have registered in time.</p></blockquote>
<p>Simple solution for that:</p>
<p><strong>RegisterToVoteForObama.com</strong> !</p>
<p>CHANGE HOPE BELIEVE!</p>
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		<title>By: Missy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Missy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Jul 2008 16:41:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;profitsbeard on July 8, 2008 at 12:37 PM&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Sneaky!  But, luckily, those airheads are usually non-voters anyway, because they weren&#039;t smart enough to have registered in time.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>profitsbeard on July 8, 2008 at 12:37 PM</p></blockquote>
<p>Sneaky!  But, luckily, those airheads are usually non-voters anyway, because they weren&#8217;t smart enough to have registered in time.</p>
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		<title>By: profitsbeard</title>
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		<dc:creator>profitsbeard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Jul 2008 16:37:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Missy at 12:30-

...asking where they go to vote online.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

A clever operative could set up a website:

&lt;strong&gt;VoteOnlineForObama.com&lt;/strong&gt;

-and have it merely be a cunning poll page disguised as &lt;em&gt;real online voting&lt;/em&gt; site.

To siphon off and neutralize the votes of the airheads you mention.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Missy at 12:30-</p>
<p>&#8230;asking where they go to vote online.</p></blockquote>
<p>A clever operative could set up a website:</p>
<p><strong>VoteOnlineForObama.com</strong></p>
<p>-and have it merely be a cunning poll page disguised as <em>real online voting</em> site.</p>
<p>To siphon off and neutralize the votes of the airheads you mention.</p>
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		<title>By: Missy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Missy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Jul 2008 16:30:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;aero on July 8, 2008 at 12:22 PM

JiangxiDad on July 8, 2008 at 12:25 PM&lt;/blockquote&gt;

LOL.  No joke, though - I work at a university and I get questions from students every November asking where they go to vote online.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>aero on July 8, 2008 at 12:22 PM</p>
<p>JiangxiDad on July 8, 2008 at 12:25 PM</p></blockquote>
<p>LOL.  No joke, though &#8211; I work at a university and I get questions from students every November asking where they go to vote online.</p>
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		<title>By: Missy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Missy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Jul 2008 16:28:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Yes, because seniors actually DO turn out to vote.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Precisely.  And Obama lost the senior vote to Hillary in Ohio by 41 points, 69-28.  But, he can console himself with the fact that he only lost it by 18 points in PA (the second oldest state in the country next to Florida).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Yes, because seniors actually DO turn out to vote.</p></blockquote>
<p>Precisely.  And Obama lost the senior vote to Hillary in Ohio by 41 points, 69-28.  But, he can console himself with the fact that he only lost it by 18 points in PA (the second oldest state in the country next to Florida).</p>
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		<title>By: JiangxiDad</title>
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		<dc:creator>JiangxiDad</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Jul 2008 16:25:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;aero on July 8, 2008 at 12:22 PM&lt;/blockquote&gt;

McCain can&#039;t use a computer. Obama&#039;s supporters can&#039;t use a pencil :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>aero on July 8, 2008 at 12:22 PM</p></blockquote>
<p>McCain can&#8217;t use a computer. Obama&#8217;s supporters can&#8217;t use a pencil :)</p>
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		<title>By: aero</title>
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		<dc:creator>aero</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Jul 2008 16:22:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Meanwhile, Obama has spent months courting them by painting McCain as “the old guy,” which could hurt him with seniors. Oops.

Missy on July 8, 2008 at 12:05 PM&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Yes, because seniors actually DO turn out to vote.

But even if young voters do turn out in great numbers in November, I&#039;m not worried. They won&#039;t know what to do since their ballots won&#039;t say, &quot;Blacken this oval to confirm Barack Obama&#039;s Friend Request.&quot; LOL! (Just teasing, you Facebook addicts.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Meanwhile, Obama has spent months courting them by painting McCain as “the old guy,” which could hurt him with seniors. Oops.</p>
<p>Missy on July 8, 2008 at 12:05 PM</p></blockquote>
<p>Yes, because seniors actually DO turn out to vote.</p>
<p>But even if young voters do turn out in great numbers in November, I&#8217;m not worried. They won&#8217;t know what to do since their ballots won&#8217;t say, &#8220;Blacken this oval to confirm Barack Obama&#8217;s Friend Request.&#8221; LOL! (Just teasing, you Facebook addicts.)</p>
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		<title>By: JiangxiDad</title>
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		<dc:creator>JiangxiDad</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Jul 2008 16:15:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Yes. It’s also the coolness factor fading - the cycle of “new/hip/different” is very fast with young voters. 
Missy on July 8, 2008 at 12:05 PM&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Obama&#039;s graying quickly on the campaign trail. He might have to ask Hillary for help with the hair dye and botox before election day.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Yes. It’s also the coolness factor fading &#8211; the cycle of “new/hip/different” is very fast with young voters.<br />
Missy on July 8, 2008 at 12:05 PM</p></blockquote>
<p>Obama&#8217;s graying quickly on the campaign trail. He might have to ask Hillary for help with the hair dye and botox before election day.</p>
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		<title>By: michaelo</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Jul 2008 16:13:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The problem area for Obama is the young voters; his zigzags will not exactly generate the enthusiasm necessary for them to even show up at the polls.  Without them, he could blow it (and it definitely is the Dems to lose).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The problem area for Obama is the young voters; his zigzags will not exactly generate the enthusiasm necessary for them to even show up at the polls.  Without them, he could blow it (and it definitely is the Dems to lose).</p>
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		<title>By: Missy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Missy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Jul 2008 16:05:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;As soon as they catch a whiff of the fact that he’s no different from any other politician, they’ll go back to being apathetic and won’t show up in November. 

aero on July 8, 2008 at 11:36 AM&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Yes. It&#039;s also the coolness factor fading - the cycle of &quot;new/hip/different&quot; is very fast with young voters.  Once someone&#039;s been their friend on Facebook for awhile they get bored and move on to the next big thing.  

Meanwhile, Obama has spent months courting them by painting McCain as &quot;the old guy,&quot; which could hurt him with seniors.  Oops.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>As soon as they catch a whiff of the fact that he’s no different from any other politician, they’ll go back to being apathetic and won’t show up in November. </p>
<p>aero on July 8, 2008 at 11:36 AM</p></blockquote>
<p>Yes. It&#8217;s also the coolness factor fading &#8211; the cycle of &#8220;new/hip/different&#8221; is very fast with young voters.  Once someone&#8217;s been their friend on Facebook for awhile they get bored and move on to the next big thing.  </p>
<p>Meanwhile, Obama has spent months courting them by painting McCain as &#8220;the old guy,&#8221; which could hurt him with seniors.  Oops.</p>
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		<title>By: right2bright</title>
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		<dc:creator>right2bright</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Jul 2008 16:03:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Blacks, in their rush to see one of their own as president, might also want to condsider the long view. How would a disaster presidency under Obama affect the nomination of another black in the future?

GarandFan on July 8, 2008 at 12:00 PM&lt;/blockquote&gt;
Well, using the logic of more then a couple of poster on HA.  Racists should elect Barack, then when he fails your post hold true.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Blacks, in their rush to see one of their own as president, might also want to condsider the long view. How would a disaster presidency under Obama affect the nomination of another black in the future?</p>
<p>GarandFan on July 8, 2008 at 12:00 PM</p></blockquote>
<p>Well, using the logic of more then a couple of poster on HA.  Racists should elect Barack, then when he fails your post hold true.</p>
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		<title>By: right2bright</title>
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		<dc:creator>right2bright</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Jul 2008 16:01:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Untrue. Perot was a crank, but he was a crank with cred, a guy who worked for his success without leaning on preferences or any of the other PC crutches the Democrats so love.

MrScribbler on July 8, 2008 at 11:27 AM&lt;/blockquote&gt;
You missed my point, Perot was an excuse to not vote Republican.  Most weren&#039;t voting for Perot, as much as against &quot;read my lips&quot; Bush.
Now for those who don&#039;t want to vote Republican, they don&#039;t have Perot, so they create fairy tales, and scary scenarios, to convince themselves not to vote for McCain.  If they had a Perot, they would vote for him and say &quot;Perot has cred&quot;.
Primarily based on McCain&#039;s weak border policy, the far right (and libertarians) have joined with the far-left and are denouncing McCain.  However, being smarter then the far right, the far left will elect Obama, because the far right has &quot;principles&quot;...and because they are stupid.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Untrue. Perot was a crank, but he was a crank with cred, a guy who worked for his success without leaning on preferences or any of the other PC crutches the Democrats so love.</p>
<p>MrScribbler on July 8, 2008 at 11:27 AM</p></blockquote>
<p>You missed my point, Perot was an excuse to not vote Republican.  Most weren&#8217;t voting for Perot, as much as against &#8220;read my lips&#8221; Bush.<br />
Now for those who don&#8217;t want to vote Republican, they don&#8217;t have Perot, so they create fairy tales, and scary scenarios, to convince themselves not to vote for McCain.  If they had a Perot, they would vote for him and say &#8220;Perot has cred&#8221;.<br />
Primarily based on McCain&#8217;s weak border policy, the far right (and libertarians) have joined with the far-left and are denouncing McCain.  However, being smarter then the far right, the far left will elect Obama, because the far right has &#8220;principles&#8221;&#8230;and because they are stupid.</p>
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