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	<title>Comments on: McCain: I&#8217;ll balance the budget by cleaning up entitlement programs</title>
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		<title>By: JOE BIDEN and the silence of the GOP - Page 4 - Debate Politics Forums</title>
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		<dc:creator>JOE BIDEN and the silence of the GOP - Page 4 - Debate Politics Forums</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Sep 2008 23:40:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] McCain: I’ll balance the budget by cleaning up entitlement programs posted at 9:29 am on July 7, 2008 by Ed Morrissey  John McCain will send a message to fiscal conservatives this week: he’ll take on entitlement programs in his first term. Pledging to balance the budget in four years, McCain will cut waste and begin overhauling Social Security and Medicare, a bold vision that presents an opportunity and a risk for the Republican. George Bush saw his second term run aground on the shoals of Social Security reform:  McCain is making the pledge at the beginning of a week when both presidential candidates plan to devote their events to the economy, the top issue in poll after poll as voters struggle to keep their jobs and fill their gas tanks. …  McCain’s emphasis on balancing the budget is likely to excite conservatives, who have remained skeptical of his candidacy, and provoke derision from Democrats, who will argue that it’s a warmed-over version of proposals that President Bush failed to enact.  The Democrats shrug off McCain’s pledge as unrealistic. He has a $400 billion gap to close, as the CBO predicts that kind of deficit in 2013 under current budget plans. Can McCain possibly do that with a combination of entitlement reforms and surgical excision of waste? McCain believes he can, and points to the essential problem in a speech he will deliver this morning:   This Congress and this Administration have failed to meet their responsibilities to manage the government. Government has grown by 60 percent in the last eight years. That is simply inexcusable. When I’m president, I will order a stem to stern review of government, modernize how it does business and save billions of dollars. I will veto every single bill with wasteful spending. We aren’t going to continue mortgaging this country’s future for things Americans don’t want or need.  My opponent has a very different record on this issue. He has sought millions upon millions of dollars in earmarks since his election to the Senate. In 2007 alone, Senator Obama requested nearly $100 million for earmark projects. I have never asked for a single earmark in my entire career. He supported the $300 billion pork laden agricultural subsidy bill. I opposed it. He voted for an energy bill stuffed with give-aways to oil companies at a time of record profits. I voted against it.  We grew spending by over 35% from 2000, when we had a $2.0 trillion budget. Some of that went to the war effort, but plenty of it came in other discretionary spending. And, as McCain tells Politico, the real spending problem isn’t in discretionary programs but in entitlements. The explosion of spending threatens to overwhelm the federal budget over the next few decades, but already accounts for 58% of federal spending.  In real terms, we have increased entitlement spending by 759% over the last 43 years. In 2007 dollars, we spent $582 billion in 1965, and in 2007 that has transformed into a $2.5 trillion boondoggle. What’s worse, the rate of increase has speeded up. We have added more than a half-trillion dollars over the last five years. It took 43 years to add a half-trillion 2007 dollars to discretionary spending.  McCain at least puts entitlements on the table as a problem in the bloated federal budget. Barack Obama has only mentioned entitlements in terms of expanding them, adding new taxes as a way to redistribute capital through the federal government. A real agent of change would offer solutions rather than the hair of the dog.    Hot Air Blog Archive McCain: I&#8217;ll balance the budget by cleaning up entitlement programs [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Branch Rickey</title>
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		<dc:creator>Branch Rickey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Jul 2008 07:16:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Branch Rickey on July 8, 2008 at 5:00 PM

Glad I made your day, you pathetic creatureâ€¦obviously not married.

right2bright on July 8, 2008 at 5:26 PM&lt;/blockquote&gt;

You remind one that life is stranger than fiction.

Very happily married to the sweetest man who happens to be brilliant, handsome and successful.  Life is good.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Branch Rickey on July 8, 2008 at 5:00 PM</p>
<p>Glad I made your day, you pathetic creatureâ€¦obviously not married.</p>
<p>right2bright on July 8, 2008 at 5:26 PM</p></blockquote>
<p>You remind one that life is stranger than fiction.</p>
<p>Very happily married to the sweetest man who happens to be brilliant, handsome and successful.  Life is good.</p>
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		<title>By: fossten</title>
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		<dc:creator>fossten</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Jul 2008 00:44:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Cmon, make a choice, us racists hate to be left alone, Reagan or Sowell or both or neither.
Cmon, please? Which one (if either) agrees with meâ€¦in fact maybe they are the ones who taught this to me?
Cmon, make my dayâ€¦
or do you know that I am right, and youâ€¦gulp, made a mistake.

right2bright on July 8, 2008 at 7:35 PM&lt;/blockquote&gt;Dude.  I didn&#039;t make the claim you&#039;re saying I made.  Go back and read the posts.  You need to be addressing flenser.  I don&#039;t give a crap about your stupid question.

&lt;blockquote&gt;Wait fossten, this is greatâ€¦you have posted or at least googled on a post 306 times and 228 were about McCainâ€¦so what is your gig, a McCain poster also?

right2bright on July 8, 2008 at 7:37 PM&lt;/blockquote&gt;Again, you are addressing the wrong person.  If you&#039;re going to bait someone, at least get the right person.  You&#039;re not only mistaken, but incompetent.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Cmon, make a choice, us racists hate to be left alone, Reagan or Sowell or both or neither.<br />
Cmon, please? Which one (if either) agrees with meâ€¦in fact maybe they are the ones who taught this to me?<br />
Cmon, make my dayâ€¦<br />
or do you know that I am right, and youâ€¦gulp, made a mistake.</p>
<p>right2bright on July 8, 2008 at 7:35 PM</p></blockquote>
<p>Dude.  I didn&#8217;t make the claim you&#8217;re saying I made.  Go back and read the posts.  You need to be addressing flenser.  I don&#8217;t give a crap about your stupid question.</p>
<blockquote><p>Wait fossten, this is greatâ€¦you have posted or at least googled on a post 306 times and 228 were about McCainâ€¦so what is your gig, a McCain poster also?</p>
<p>right2bright on July 8, 2008 at 7:37 PM</p></blockquote>
<p>Again, you are addressing the wrong person.  If you&#8217;re going to bait someone, at least get the right person.  You&#8217;re not only mistaken, but incompetent.</p>
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		<title>By: jeffNWV</title>
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		<dc:creator>jeffNWV</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Jul 2008 00:28:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;right2bright on July 8, 2008 at 8:31 AM&lt;/blockquote&gt;
A lot of people are not Obama. In fact all other people are not Obama. Hitler, Stalin, FDR, Carter, Clinton, etc.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>right2bright on July 8, 2008 at 8:31 AM</p></blockquote>
<p>A lot of people are not Obama. In fact all other people are not Obama. Hitler, Stalin, FDR, Carter, Clinton, etc.</p>
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		<title>By: misterpeasea</title>
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		<dc:creator>misterpeasea</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Jul 2008 00:17:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Cmon, make my dayâ€¦
or do you know that I am right, and youâ€¦gulp, made a mistake.

right2bright on July 8, 2008 at 7:35 PM&lt;/blockquote&gt;

&lt;blockquote&gt;You see, the Dems made the move with the great society etc., the Republicans sat and watched. The Republicans could have made a move to defend, but they sat and watched.

right2bright on July 8, 2008 at 7:09 PM&lt;/blockquote&gt;

&lt;blockquote&gt;Republicans turning their back on the Blacks, and losing 150 years of goodwill in a few years because some of the â€śconservativesâ€ť were so adamant about not giving rights to them. 

right2bright on July 7, 2008 at 4:12 PM&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Somebody made a mistake.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Cmon, make my dayâ€¦<br />
or do you know that I am right, and youâ€¦gulp, made a mistake.</p>
<p>right2bright on July 8, 2008 at 7:35 PM</p></blockquote>
<blockquote><p>You see, the Dems made the move with the great society etc., the Republicans sat and watched. The Republicans could have made a move to defend, but they sat and watched.</p>
<p>right2bright on July 8, 2008 at 7:09 PM</p></blockquote>
<blockquote><p>Republicans turning their back on the Blacks, and losing 150 years of goodwill in a few years because some of the â€śconservativesâ€ť were so adamant about not giving rights to them. </p>
<p>right2bright on July 7, 2008 at 4:12 PM</p></blockquote>
<p>Somebody made a mistake.</p>
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		<title>By: right2bright</title>
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		<dc:creator>right2bright</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Jul 2008 23:37:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wait fossten, this is great...you have posted or at least googled on a post 306 times and 228 were about McCain...so what is your gig, a McCain poster also?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wait fossten, this is great&#8230;you have posted or at least googled on a post 306 times and 228 were about McCain&#8230;so what is your gig, a McCain poster also?</p>
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		<title>By: right2bright</title>
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		<dc:creator>right2bright</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Jul 2008 23:35:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;fossten on July 8, 2008 at 7:19 PM&lt;/blockquote&gt;
Cmon, make a choice, us racists hate to be left alone, Reagan or Sowell or both or neither.
Cmon, please? Which one (if either) agrees with me...in fact maybe they are the ones who taught this to me?
Cmon, make my day...
or do you know that I am right, and you...gulp, made a mistake.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>fossten on July 8, 2008 at 7:19 PM</p></blockquote>
<p>Cmon, make a choice, us racists hate to be left alone, Reagan or Sowell or both or neither.<br />
Cmon, please? Which one (if either) agrees with me&#8230;in fact maybe they are the ones who taught this to me?<br />
Cmon, make my day&#8230;<br />
or do you know that I am right, and you&#8230;gulp, made a mistake.</p>
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		<title>By: fossten</title>
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		<dc:creator>fossten</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Jul 2008 23:19:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;right2bright on July 8, 2008 at 7:09 PM&lt;/blockquote&gt;I believe you&#039;ve finally gone off the deep end into incoherency.

You are a legend in your own mind.  Enjoy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>right2bright on July 8, 2008 at 7:09 PM</p></blockquote>
<p>I believe you&#8217;ve finally gone off the deep end into incoherency.</p>
<p>You are a legend in your own mind.  Enjoy.</p>
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		<title>By: right2bright</title>
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		<dc:creator>right2bright</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Jul 2008 23:09:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;fossten on July 8, 2008 at 5:37 PM
flenser on July 8, 2008 at 6:25 PM&lt;/blockquote&gt;
Hey guess what guys, have you ever watched a basketball game.  They have defense and offense.
So when someone makes a layup, is it good offense or poor defense.
Think about it...
You see, the Dems made the move with the great society etc., the Republicans sat and watched.  The Republicans could have made a move to defend, but they sat and watched.  Now, what Republican do you think agrees with me?...of course you would have to call him a racist.  But go ahead and take a stab at it...
was it:
Reagan
Sowell
both or neither
Are both of you so simple that you only see one side?  That you can only analyze one action?  Carry only one thought?
You are making this so easy, you guys are masochists, you love to be embarrassed. 
2 against 1 and you can&#039;t score...hahahahaha! I crack me up.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>fossten on July 8, 2008 at 5:37 PM<br />
flenser on July 8, 2008 at 6:25 PM</p></blockquote>
<p>Hey guess what guys, have you ever watched a basketball game.  They have defense and offense.<br />
So when someone makes a layup, is it good offense or poor defense.<br />
Think about it&#8230;<br />
You see, the Dems made the move with the great society etc., the Republicans sat and watched.  The Republicans could have made a move to defend, but they sat and watched.  Now, what Republican do you think agrees with me?&#8230;of course you would have to call him a racist.  But go ahead and take a stab at it&#8230;<br />
was it:<br />
Reagan<br />
Sowell<br />
both or neither<br />
Are both of you so simple that you only see one side?  That you can only analyze one action?  Carry only one thought?<br />
You are making this so easy, you guys are masochists, you love to be embarrassed.<br />
2 against 1 and you can&#8217;t score&#8230;hahahahaha! I crack me up.</p>
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		<title>By: flenser</title>
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		<dc:creator>flenser</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Jul 2008 22:25:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;the GOP allowed the Democrats to fully implement programs that, still, have kept the blacks in their ranks.
The great society, the great give aways that destroyed the black families, also bought their vote.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

So it wasn&#039;t the mean ole&#039; racist Republicans after all? it was the Dems buying their votes? Well, if you say so. You&#039;re too clever for us.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>the GOP allowed the Democrats to fully implement programs that, still, have kept the blacks in their ranks.<br />
The great society, the great give aways that destroyed the black families, also bought their vote.</p></blockquote>
<p>So it wasn&#8217;t the mean ole&#8217; racist Republicans after all? it was the Dems buying their votes? Well, if you say so. You&#8217;re too clever for us.</p>
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		<title>By: fossten</title>
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		<dc:creator>fossten</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Jul 2008 21:37:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;How many timesâ€¦&lt;strong&gt;I never said deny rights&lt;/strong&gt;, turned their backs yes, but not deny.
How do you figure moving from 40% of the vote to 8% in 10 8 years?
Sheeshâ€¦

right2bright on July 8, 2008 at 5:24 PM&lt;/blockquote&gt;

&lt;blockquote&gt;He is barely tolerable because of this issue, but then I remember the Republicans turning their back on the Blacks, and losing 150 years of goodwill in a few years because some of the â€śconservativesâ€ť &lt;strong&gt;were so adamant about not giving rights to them.&lt;/strong&gt; 

right2bright on July 7, 2008 at 4:12 PM&lt;/blockquote&gt;
Oh, you&#039;re right, totally different.  /sarc

You&#039;ve been outed.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>How many timesâ€¦<strong>I never said deny rights</strong>, turned their backs yes, but not deny.<br />
How do you figure moving from 40% of the vote to 8% in 10 8 years?<br />
Sheeshâ€¦</p>
<p>right2bright on July 8, 2008 at 5:24 PM</p></blockquote>
<blockquote><p>He is barely tolerable because of this issue, but then I remember the Republicans turning their back on the Blacks, and losing 150 years of goodwill in a few years because some of the â€śconservativesâ€ť <strong>were so adamant about not giving rights to them.</strong> </p>
<p>right2bright on July 7, 2008 at 4:12 PM</p></blockquote>
<p>Oh, you&#8217;re right, totally different.  /sarc</p>
<p>You&#8217;ve been outed.</p>
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		<title>By: right2bright</title>
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		<dc:creator>right2bright</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Jul 2008 21:26:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Branch Rickey on July 8, 2008 at 5:00 PM&lt;/blockquote&gt;
Glad I made your day, you pathetic creature...obviously not married.</description>
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<p>Glad I made your day, you pathetic creature&#8230;obviously not married.</p>
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		<title>By: right2bright</title>
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		<dc:creator>right2bright</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Jul 2008 21:24:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;they wanted to deny rights to blacks. Thereâ€™s nothing correct about any of that.

misterpeasea on July 8, 2008 at 5:02 PM&lt;/blockquote&gt;
How many times...I never said deny rights, turned their backs yes, but not deny.
How do you figure moving from 40% of the vote to 8% in 10 8 years?
Sheesh...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>they wanted to deny rights to blacks. Thereâ€™s nothing correct about any of that.</p>
<p>misterpeasea on July 8, 2008 at 5:02 PM</p></blockquote>
<p>How many times&#8230;I never said deny rights, turned their backs yes, but not deny.<br />
How do you figure moving from 40% of the vote to 8% in 10 8 years?<br />
Sheesh&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: right2bright</title>
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		<dc:creator>right2bright</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Jul 2008 21:22:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;

    right2bright on July 8, 2008 at 4:57 PM

You can obfuscate and be incoherent all you like.

But do me a favor: donâ€™t go around yammering about how the GOP lost the black vote in the 60s because they wanted to deny rights to blacks. Thereâ€™s nothing correct about any of that.

misterpeasea on July 8, 2008 at 5:02 PM&lt;/blockquote&gt;
Why do you guys keep doing this to yourself, don&#039;t you have any pride?
Are you familiar with Davies J-Curve?  Hurry and Google it, Kennedy began the process of slamming the door on the Republicans.  We went from 40% of vote in 1956 to 8% in 1964, just 8 years, (1960 30%).  So we went from 40% to 8% in about a decade, sounds like a trumping during the 60&#039;s to me.  But to you, insignificant...</description>
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<p>    right2bright on July 8, 2008 at 4:57 PM</p>
<p>You can obfuscate and be incoherent all you like.</p>
<p>But do me a favor: donâ€™t go around yammering about how the GOP lost the black vote in the 60s because they wanted to deny rights to blacks. Thereâ€™s nothing correct about any of that.</p>
<p>misterpeasea on July 8, 2008 at 5:02 PM</p></blockquote>
<p>Why do you guys keep doing this to yourself, don&#8217;t you have any pride?<br />
Are you familiar with Davies J-Curve?  Hurry and Google it, Kennedy began the process of slamming the door on the Republicans.  We went from 40% of vote in 1956 to 8% in 1964, just 8 years, (1960 30%).  So we went from 40% to 8% in about a decade, sounds like a trumping during the 60&#8217;s to me.  But to you, insignificant&#8230;</p>
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		<dc:creator>right2bright</dc:creator>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Anyway. Blacks started voting Democrat during the Great Depression. When you claim they started voting Democrat during the 60s because of anything Republicans or conservatives did, you speak from ignorance.

misterpeasea on July 8, 2008 at 4:30 PM&lt;/blockquote&gt;
They began shifting in the late 20&#039;s (when the courts began shifting to being more atuned to civil rights), and the shift continued into the 50&#039;s (that was a 30 year shift, hardly a &quot;movement&quot;), even after Eisenhower nominated Chief Justice Warren (but it was probably 40/60 in the 1956&#039;s).  But it was Kennedy in the 60&#039;s (Davies J-curve) that nailed the hammer in the coffin, the GOP allowed the Democrats to fully implement programs that, still, have kept the blacks in their ranks.
The great society, the great give aways that destroyed the black families, also bought their vote.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Anyway. Blacks started voting Democrat during the Great Depression. When you claim they started voting Democrat during the 60s because of anything Republicans or conservatives did, you speak from ignorance.</p>
<p>misterpeasea on July 8, 2008 at 4:30 PM</p></blockquote>
<p>They began shifting in the late 20&#8217;s (when the courts began shifting to being more atuned to civil rights), and the shift continued into the 50&#8217;s (that was a 30 year shift, hardly a &#8220;movement&#8221;), even after Eisenhower nominated Chief Justice Warren (but it was probably 40/60 in the 1956&#8217;s).  But it was Kennedy in the 60&#8217;s (Davies J-curve) that nailed the hammer in the coffin, the GOP allowed the Democrats to fully implement programs that, still, have kept the blacks in their ranks.<br />
The great society, the great give aways that destroyed the black families, also bought their vote.</p>
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		<dc:creator>Branch Rickey</dc:creator>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt; put down the bon bons&lt;/blockquote&gt;

why b/c McVain will tax me for the carbon footprint, right2bright (a.k.a. Lindsey Graham) hahahahahaha</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p> put down the bon bons</p></blockquote>
<p>why b/c McVain will tax me for the carbon footprint, right2bright (a.k.a. Lindsey Graham) hahahahahaha</p>
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		<dc:creator>misterpeasea</dc:creator>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;right2bright on July 8, 2008 at 4:57 PM&lt;/blockquote&gt;

You can obfuscate and be incoherent all you like.

But do me a favor: don&#039;t go around yammering about how the GOP lost the black vote in the 60s because they wanted to deny rights to blacks.  There&#039;s nothing correct about any of that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>right2bright on July 8, 2008 at 4:57 PM</p></blockquote>
<p>You can obfuscate and be incoherent all you like.</p>
<p>But do me a favor: don&#8217;t go around yammering about how the GOP lost the black vote in the 60s because they wanted to deny rights to blacks.  There&#8217;s nothing correct about any of that.</p>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;
right2bright on July 8, 2008 at 4:01 PM&lt;/blockquote&gt;

You made my day.  I was trying to annoy you and you fell for it.  

Don&#039;t change.  You are hilarious just the way you are.

p.s. small posts?  like this:
So, show me where he voted to increase taxes: REPEAT, VOTING AGAINST A TAX DECREASE, AS MCVAIN DID B/C OF BRUISED FEELINGS, = A WORTHLESS POLITICIAN, show me the entitlements that he proposed, the earmarks: TRY HIS CAP AND TRADE HOAXâ€¦gee you canâ€™t. I CAN!

Now show me where the evidence against McCain was in the Keating five?
Robert Bennet [THATâ€™S YOUR SOURCE? I REST MY CASE. PLUS, I FOLLOWED THE KEATING 5 IN THE 80s, extensively, AND IF THE LOWLIFE GLENN HAD NOT BEEN INVOLVED HEADS WOULD HAVE ROLLED] READ SOME HISTORY! was the special investigator hired by the senate sub-committee to investigate. He specifically recommended â€śno chargesâ€ť against McCain because there was no evidence; hmmm, Bill Clintonâ€™s attorney.

Amazingly in this country you need evidence to convict someone
{I must have missed McVainâ€™s â€śconvictionâ€ť}, something you obviously have not heard about.NOR HAVE YOU HEARD OF GRAMMAR. You SHOULD NOT END A SENTENCE WITH A PREPOSITION. Pretty basic stuff.

However, if you want to find â€śevidenceâ€ť you can read the hit piece in the NYT in January of this year. You would love it. If YOU are dumb enough to read the NYT; I canâ€™t help you.

right2bright on July 7, 2008 at 11:15 AM

Quit while you are behind in the argument department. Just a suggestion.

Branch Rickey on July 7, 2008 at 12:03 PM</description>
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right2bright on July 8, 2008 at 4:01 PM</p></blockquote>
<p>You made my day.  I was trying to annoy you and you fell for it.  </p>
<p>Don&#8217;t change.  You are hilarious just the way you are.</p>
<p>p.s. small posts?  like this:<br />
So, show me where he voted to increase taxes: REPEAT, VOTING AGAINST A TAX DECREASE, AS MCVAIN DID B/C OF BRUISED FEELINGS, = A WORTHLESS POLITICIAN, show me the entitlements that he proposed, the earmarks: TRY HIS CAP AND TRADE HOAXâ€¦gee you canâ€™t. I CAN!</p>
<p>Now show me where the evidence against McCain was in the Keating five?<br />
Robert Bennet [THATâ€™S YOUR SOURCE? I REST MY CASE. PLUS, I FOLLOWED THE KEATING 5 IN THE 80s, extensively, AND IF THE LOWLIFE GLENN HAD NOT BEEN INVOLVED HEADS WOULD HAVE ROLLED] READ SOME HISTORY! was the special investigator hired by the senate sub-committee to investigate. He specifically recommended â€śno chargesâ€ť against McCain because there was no evidence; hmmm, Bill Clintonâ€™s attorney.</p>
<p>Amazingly in this country you need evidence to convict someone<br />
{I must have missed McVainâ€™s â€śconvictionâ€ť}, something you obviously have not heard about.NOR HAVE YOU HEARD OF GRAMMAR. You SHOULD NOT END A SENTENCE WITH A PREPOSITION. Pretty basic stuff.</p>
<p>However, if you want to find â€śevidenceâ€ť you can read the hit piece in the NYT in January of this year. You would love it. If YOU are dumb enough to read the NYT; I canâ€™t help you.</p>
<p>right2bright on July 7, 2008 at 11:15 AM</p>
<p>Quit while you are behind in the argument department. Just a suggestion.</p>
<p>Branch Rickey on July 7, 2008 at 12:03 PM</p>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;I told you this before, several times. The Dems took the majority of the black vote starting in the 1930â€™s with the New Deal. Jobs and money, that was the key then as it is now.

flenser on July 8, 2008 at 4:35 PM&lt;/blockquote&gt;
You mean the GOP lost the black vote, are you a GOP racist?
Just using your line of reasoning.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>I told you this before, several times. The Dems took the majority of the black vote starting in the 1930â€™s with the New Deal. Jobs and money, that was the key then as it is now.</p>
<p>flenser on July 8, 2008 at 4:35 PM</p></blockquote>
<p>You mean the GOP lost the black vote, are you a GOP racist?<br />
Just using your line of reasoning.</p>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Tell me how did the GOP lose the black vote?â€¦they had it for 150 years. &lt;/blockquote&gt;

The GOP was formed in 1854. If they had the black vote for 150 years they would mean that they lost it in 2004.

Is that what you are saying?


&lt;blockquote&gt;Now you tell me how the GOP lost the black voteâ€¦I will be waiting.
&lt;/blockquote&gt;

I told you this before, several times. The Dems took the majority of the black vote starting in the 1930&#039;s with the New Deal. Jobs and money, that was the key then as it is now.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Tell me how did the GOP lose the black vote?â€¦they had it for 150 years. </p></blockquote>
<p>The GOP was formed in 1854. If they had the black vote for 150 years they would mean that they lost it in 2004.</p>
<p>Is that what you are saying?</p>
<blockquote><p>Now you tell me how the GOP lost the black voteâ€¦I will be waiting.
</p></blockquote>
<p>I told you this before, several times. The Dems took the majority of the black vote starting in the 1930&#8217;s with the New Deal. Jobs and money, that was the key then as it is now.</p>
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		<title>By: misterpeasea</title>
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		<dc:creator>misterpeasea</dc:creator>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;right2bright on July 8, 2008 at 4:05 PM&lt;/blockquote&gt;

It&#039;s you saying the GOP has a racist history, isn&#039;t it?  In the past (i.e., &quot;history&quot;), they were so adamant about not giving rights to them (i.e., &quot;racist&quot;).  

&lt;blockquote&gt;Tell me how did the GOP lose the black vote?â€¦they had it for 150 years. But donâ€™t mention the 60â€™s, you become a racist.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Well.  I don&#039;t think the GOP had the black vote for 150 years, because blacks haven&#039;t had the vote for 150 years.  The earliest they had it was 1865.  Right?  And they quit voting Republican in the &#039;30s.  Right?  So about 65-70 years at the most.  Even if they voted Republican until the 60s, that would only be about 100 years.  

Anyway.  &lt;a href=&quot;http://asp1.umbc.edu/newmedia/sites/chetah/pdf/pennington.pdf&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Blacks started voting Democrat during the Great Depression&lt;/a&gt;.  When you claim they started voting Democrat during the 60s because of anything Republicans or conservatives did, you speak from ignorance.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>right2bright on July 8, 2008 at 4:05 PM</p></blockquote>
<p>It&#8217;s you saying the GOP has a racist history, isn&#8217;t it?  In the past (i.e., &#8220;history&#8221;), they were so adamant about not giving rights to them (i.e., &#8220;racist&#8221;).  </p>
<blockquote><p>Tell me how did the GOP lose the black vote?â€¦they had it for 150 years. But donâ€™t mention the 60â€™s, you become a racist.</p></blockquote>
<p>Well.  I don&#8217;t think the GOP had the black vote for 150 years, because blacks haven&#8217;t had the vote for 150 years.  The earliest they had it was 1865.  Right?  And they quit voting Republican in the &#8217;30s.  Right?  So about 65-70 years at the most.  Even if they voted Republican until the 60s, that would only be about 100 years.  </p>
<p>Anyway.  <a href="http://asp1.umbc.edu/newmedia/sites/chetah/pdf/pennington.pdf" rel="nofollow">Blacks started voting Democrat during the Great Depression</a>.  When you claim they started voting Democrat during the 60s because of anything Republicans or conservatives did, you speak from ignorance.</p>
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		<dc:creator>right2bright</dc:creator>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Does this qualify?

misterpeasea on July 8, 2008 at 3:54 PM&lt;/blockquote&gt;
Qualify for what, that makes me a Gop racist?  Tell me how did the GOP lose the black vote?...they had it for 150 years.  But don&#039;t mention the 60&#039;s, you become a racist.
&lt;blockquote&gt;Yet with all that, we (conservatives) make a few years of gaffs, during a tumultuous time, and we allowed the libs to snare the minorities with the â€śgreat societyâ€ť, where it destroyed one of the great cultures and families&lt;/blockquote&gt;
Now you tell me how the GOP lost the black vote...I will be waiting.
Looks like you overlooked that...</description>
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<p>misterpeasea on July 8, 2008 at 3:54 PM</p></blockquote>
<p>Qualify for what, that makes me a Gop racist?  Tell me how did the GOP lose the black vote?&#8230;they had it for 150 years.  But don&#8217;t mention the 60&#8217;s, you become a racist.</p>
<blockquote><p>Yet with all that, we (conservatives) make a few years of gaffs, during a tumultuous time, and we allowed the libs to snare the minorities with the â€śgreat societyâ€ť, where it destroyed one of the great cultures and families</p></blockquote>
<p>Now you tell me how the GOP lost the black vote&#8230;I will be waiting.<br />
Looks like you overlooked that&#8230;</p>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Please stop satirizing yourself. My sides may never recover from the amount laughter your twaddle posts create.

Branch Rickey on July 8, 2008 at 3:43 PM&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Listen you haven&#039;t posted anything but little comments, you are a bomb thrower. (and they just don&#039;t make sense,&quot;satirizing yourself&quot;, sheesh)
Why don&#039;t you hop in and post something of substance rather then just little snide comments.
Fool me once, shame on you, fool me twice shame on me...I fell for your &quot;genuine&quot; question and answered civily...you have set the tone with that garbage response.
So get off the sofa, stop watching ball games, put down the bon bons, and pick up a book...
You and flenser belong together...he doesn&#039;t understand, and you can&#039;t read...what a pair to draw to, couple of jokers.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Please stop satirizing yourself. My sides may never recover from the amount laughter your twaddle posts create.</p>
<p>Branch Rickey on July 8, 2008 at 3:43 PM</p></blockquote>
<p>Listen you haven&#8217;t posted anything but little comments, you are a bomb thrower. (and they just don&#8217;t make sense,&#8221;satirizing yourself&#8221;, sheesh)<br />
Why don&#8217;t you hop in and post something of substance rather then just little snide comments.<br />
Fool me once, shame on you, fool me twice shame on me&#8230;I fell for your &#8220;genuine&#8221; question and answered civily&#8230;you have set the tone with that garbage response.<br />
So get off the sofa, stop watching ball games, put down the bon bons, and pick up a book&#8230;<br />
You and flenser belong together&#8230;he doesn&#8217;t understand, and you can&#8217;t read&#8230;what a pair to draw to, couple of jokers.</p>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;You really step in it, donâ€™t you?  The GOPâ€™s racist history?...When you accuse, then post what you are referring to. And if think I am a liberal, then you havenâ€™t read what I have posted, what a dunce.  Now post the â€śGopâ€™s racist historyâ€ť... So after you post that, you can post where I am the supporting the â€śGOP racist historyâ€ťâ€¦once again you have proved you are a tool and a fool.

right2bright on July 8, 2008 at 3:34 PM&lt;/blockquote&gt;

&lt;blockquote&gt;He is barely tolerable because of this issue, but then I remember the Republicans turning their back on the Blacks, and losing 150 years of goodwill in a few years because some of the â€śconservativesâ€ť were so adamant about not giving rights to them. 

right2bright on July 7, 2008 at 4:12 PM&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Does this qualify?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>You really step in it, donâ€™t you?  The GOPâ€™s racist history?&#8230;When you accuse, then post what you are referring to. And if think I am a liberal, then you havenâ€™t read what I have posted, what a dunce.  Now post the â€śGopâ€™s racist historyâ€ť&#8230; So after you post that, you can post where I am the supporting the â€śGOP racist historyâ€ťâ€¦once again you have proved you are a tool and a fool.</p>
<p>right2bright on July 8, 2008 at 3:34 PM</p></blockquote>
<blockquote><p>He is barely tolerable because of this issue, but then I remember the Republicans turning their back on the Blacks, and losing 150 years of goodwill in a few years because some of the â€śconservativesâ€ť were so adamant about not giving rights to them. </p>
<p>right2bright on July 7, 2008 at 4:12 PM</p></blockquote>
<p>Does this qualify?</p>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;    Youâ€™re a lefty supporting the GOP because of 9/11. Nothing wrong with that, but stop pretending you can lecture us on conservatism.

    flenser on July 8, 2008 at 2:46 PM&lt;/blockquote&gt;
One more little addition, go into Google advanced search, use my moniker with the term liberal you will find 2,060 references.
Now look at yours, you have 167.
So out of those 2000 posts, find where I ever sided with the liberals.
Here is the first one that pops up:


&lt;blockquote&gt;    President Bush is on the conservative edge of his Party

Global warming, immigration, taxes, spending, I think Bush has pretty much fallen over the edge and into the liberal cavern.

right2bright on May 2, 2008 at 9:30 AM&lt;/blockquote&gt;
Here is another random one:


&lt;blockquote&gt;The obsession with liberals and the minimum wage is obviousâ€¦the uneducated is their base.
It has nothing to do with improving peoples lives, it has only to do with getting more votes. And if that means destroying one entity, to ensure anotherâ€™s survival, no problem as long as the net is more votes.
Like the inner city school system, imperative that they keep the drop outs high, illiteracy high, out of wed lock high; if they can give the poor just enough to live on, then they will have a vote forever. If they keep the illiteracy high enough, they will have a vote forever.
The two go hand and handâ€¦the liberals have no shame.

right2bright on June 9, 2008 at 11:25 AM&lt;/blockquote&gt;
And here is one that touches on you and your dealing with facts.
&lt;blockquote&gt;Please keep posting, now that we know who you are and what ethics you adhere to. You are typical of most liberals, who will say and do most anything to try to get their point across. You will use lies as a basis of argument, then cry foul when they are pointed out.
The best phrase to use is; you have been exposed or you have been outed.
Just to make it clear, when I point out that you lied in your postings, that is not an attack, it is a fact. Facts are something that liberals have a hard time understanding, so I understand your confusion.

right2bright on January 1, 2007 at 8:09 PM&lt;/blockquote&gt;
So looks like you have been &quot;outed&quot;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>    Youâ€™re a lefty supporting the GOP because of 9/11. Nothing wrong with that, but stop pretending you can lecture us on conservatism.</p>
<p>    flenser on July 8, 2008 at 2:46 PM</p></blockquote>
<p>One more little addition, go into Google advanced search, use my moniker with the term liberal you will find 2,060 references.<br />
Now look at yours, you have 167.<br />
So out of those 2000 posts, find where I ever sided with the liberals.<br />
Here is the first one that pops up:</p>
<blockquote><p>    President Bush is on the conservative edge of his Party</p>
<p>Global warming, immigration, taxes, spending, I think Bush has pretty much fallen over the edge and into the liberal cavern.</p>
<p>right2bright on May 2, 2008 at 9:30 AM</p></blockquote>
<p>Here is another random one:</p>
<blockquote><p>The obsession with liberals and the minimum wage is obviousâ€¦the uneducated is their base.<br />
It has nothing to do with improving peoples lives, it has only to do with getting more votes. And if that means destroying one entity, to ensure anotherâ€™s survival, no problem as long as the net is more votes.<br />
Like the inner city school system, imperative that they keep the drop outs high, illiteracy high, out of wed lock high; if they can give the poor just enough to live on, then they will have a vote forever. If they keep the illiteracy high enough, they will have a vote forever.<br />
The two go hand and handâ€¦the liberals have no shame.</p>
<p>right2bright on June 9, 2008 at 11:25 AM</p></blockquote>
<p>And here is one that touches on you and your dealing with facts.</p>
<blockquote><p>Please keep posting, now that we know who you are and what ethics you adhere to. You are typical of most liberals, who will say and do most anything to try to get their point across. You will use lies as a basis of argument, then cry foul when they are pointed out.<br />
The best phrase to use is; you have been exposed or you have been outed.<br />
Just to make it clear, when I point out that you lied in your postings, that is not an attack, it is a fact. Facts are something that liberals have a hard time understanding, so I understand your confusion.</p>
<p>right2bright on January 1, 2007 at 8:09 PM</p></blockquote>
<p>So looks like you have been &#8220;outed&#8221;.</p>
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