McCain: I’ll balance the budget by cleaning up entitlement programs
posted at 9:29 am on July 7, 2008 by Ed Morrissey
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John McCain will send a message to fiscal conservatives this week: he’ll take on entitlement programs in his first term. Pledging to balance the budget in four years, McCain will cut waste and begin overhauling Social Security and Medicare, a bold vision that presents an opportunity and a risk for the Republican. George Bush saw his second term run aground on the shoals of Social Security reform:
McCain is making the pledge at the beginning of a week when both presidential candidates plan to devote their events to the economy, the top issue in poll after poll as voters struggle to keep their jobs and fill their gas tanks. …
McCain’s emphasis on balancing the budget is likely to excite conservatives, who have remained skeptical of his candidacy, and provoke derision from Democrats, who will argue that it’s a warmed-over version of proposals that President Bush failed to enact.
The Democrats shrug off McCain’s pledge as unrealistic. He has a $400 billion gap to close, as the CBO predicts that kind of deficit in 2013 under current budget plans. Can McCain possibly do that with a combination of entitlement reforms and surgical excision of waste? McCain believes he can, and points to the essential problem in a speech he will deliver this morning:
This Congress and this Administration have failed to meet their responsibilities to manage the government. Government has grown by 60 percent in the last eight years. That is simply inexcusable. When I’m president, I will order a stem to stern review of government, modernize how it does business and save billions of dollars. I will veto every single bill with wasteful spending. We aren’t going to continue mortgaging this country’s future for things Americans don’t want or need.
My opponent has a very different record on this issue. He has sought millions upon millions of dollars in earmarks since his election to the Senate. In 2007 alone, Senator Obama requested nearly $100 million for earmark projects. I have never asked for a single earmark in my entire career. He supported the $300 billion pork laden agricultural subsidy bill. I opposed it. He voted for an energy bill stuffed with give-aways to oil companies at a time of record profits. I voted against it.
We grew spending by over 35% from 2000, when we had a $2.0 trillion budget. Some of that went to the war effort, but plenty of it came in other discretionary spending. And, as McCain tells Politico, the real spending problem isn’t in discretionary programs but in entitlements. The explosion of spending threatens to overwhelm the federal budget over the next few decades, but already accounts for 58% of federal spending.
In real terms, we have increased entitlement spending by 759% over the last 43 years. In 2007 dollars, we spent $582 billion in 1965, and in 2007 that has transformed into a $2.5 trillion boondoggle. What’s worse, the rate of increase has speeded up. We have added more than a half-trillion dollars over the last five years. It took 43 years to add a half-trillion 2007 dollars to discretionary spending.
McCain at least puts entitlements on the table as a problem in the bloated federal budget. Barack Obama has only mentioned entitlements in terms of expanding them, adding new taxes as a way to redistribute capital through the federal government. A real agent of change would offer solutions rather than the hair of the dog.
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They are able to believe 6 impossible things before breakfast about the man who is not himself you see.
Sigy on July 7, 2008 at 3:15 PM
NoDonkey on July 7, 2008 at 2:53 PM
Beware of rabid dog troll.
maverick muse on July 7, 2008 at 3:15 PM
No, he does not like Pat Robertson or Jerry Fallwel, but alot of people dont.
Squid Shark on July 7, 2008 at 3:15 PM
So, who are the Paulnuts, who must be withering in the face of such anonymous mockery? Really – it’s not so funny if no one knows who you are mocking.
Redhead Infidel on July 7, 2008 at 3:15 PM
It’s not “state policy”, Mr StupidnDishonest. It is federal policy, and John McCain has had a big hand in making it. Immigration is primarily a Federal government responsibility. The reason why have open borders is because of Senators like John McCorrupt, not because of any state governor.
flenser on July 7, 2008 at 3:15 PM
Ah yes, the classic attempt to quell verbal opposition. Mmmm…feel the chilling breeze…
fossten on July 7, 2008 at 3:16 PM
Oh I see, saying the obvious, that James Dobson and Jerry Falwell are/were self-promoting, money-grubbing, snake oil peddling jackasses at times and said some stupid things, qualifies as “hating Christians”.
I don’t have a high opinion of TV preachers either, does that make me a Christian hater?
NoDonkey on July 7, 2008 at 3:16 PM
Naw, it is not on my MDS list (with you I would drop the M).
At least you brought in other issues, however this thread was about entitlements, earmarks, and other little goodies that he has fought against.
Like I said, I have not a problem with someone attacking honestly. But saying he isn’t for stopping earmarks, entitlements, etc., is just being MDS.
right2bright on July 7, 2008 at 3:17 PM
We have had to the extreme in Texas for years.
Johan Klaus on July 7, 2008 at 3:18 PM
Which only strengthens my argument.
Look, I was giving you an example. McCain has a track record of denouncing the religious right. It’s not even debatable. He’s had to go out of his way lately to
pandermend fences with the RR in order to try and get them on his side.fossten on July 7, 2008 at 3:20 PM
Ooh, look. McCain sure is lucky he doesn’t need all those pesky hard-core conservatives. I think he and his supporters should continue alienating as many as possible – that’s a winning campaign strategy. After all, with only 4 points, he surely doesn’t need those deranged conservatives.
Redhead Infidel on July 7, 2008 at 3:20 PM
I see, its OK to imply low level insanity, because now you really don’t mean it… its really just shorthand for the people you don’t like.
OK, then I guess it would be OK for me to use the term SMS which now stands for $hithead McCain Supporters… for those who I don’t like… but of course, I like you, so even though you support McCain, and I use the term constantly, don’t take it personaly.
Romeo13 on July 7, 2008 at 3:21 PM
That’s not the same as hating Christians and you know it.
NoDonkey on July 7, 2008 at 3:21 PM
No, the thread is about whether McCain is a fiscal conservative. He is not.
I’ve cited for you spending bills he has sponsored for his own pet projects. (He sure seems to love the Indians.) They may not be “earmarks” or “pork” as you and McCain define them, but they are to me and most other people. Saying otherwise is just MDS.
flenser on July 7, 2008 at 3:21 PM
Wholecloth Clearance Sale!
donations accepted, proceeds benefit Obama ‘08
maverick muse on July 7, 2008 at 3:21 PM
No. But your hatred for the religious right does.
flenser on July 7, 2008 at 3:23 PM
Actually, he called them agents of intolerance.
And whether or not you don’t like TV preachers has nothing to do with you being a Christian hater. Tell me, do you go around denouncing the religious right on a regular basis like McCain has done?
fossten on July 7, 2008 at 3:23 PM
Conspiracy theory? No, completely unnecessary in a case like this where casual observation suffices. Spent some time? As long as it takes to glance at a web page.
Closely watching usernames? Again unnecessary. They reveal themselves, on cue and in concert, without any effort on my part whatsoever. Sometimes by taking general comments a bit too, uhh, personally. Just sayin.’
Gilda on July 7, 2008 at 3:23 PM
If you don’t like it then vote for Obama and shut the hell up. Or hold your nose and vote for McCain. No one is forcing you to do much if anything except…. fill in a circle.
If you don’t see that, it isn’t my problem.
upinak on July 7, 2008 at 3:24 PM
Sure it is. And he also hates anti-amnesty conservs, whom he accused of being racists.
fossten on July 7, 2008 at 3:24 PM
A convincing MB4 immitation.
flenser on July 7, 2008 at 3:24 PM
Apparently you don’t… HOW MUCH DOES SENOR JUAN PAY YOU? – JUST A JOKE – CHILL
So you ignore his 20+ record regarding this subject WHAT HAVE “YA DONE FOR ME LATELY?” VOTED AGAINST 2 TAX CUTS AND USED CLASS EVNY TO IMPRESS TEDDY K ET AL INSTEAD FIGHTING FOR WE THE PEOPLE …
And so now that puts you in the category of DKOS, using your feelings and not facts.Thanks for making
myyour argument so easy to dismantle,.[Y]you[,]’reright2bright are a perfect example of Mighty Delusional Sycophant paranoia.right2bright on July 7, 2008 at 2:11 PM
Branch Rickey on July 7, 2008 at 3:24 PM
I just allow them to mock themselves.
See how that works?
Gilda on July 7, 2008 at 3:25 PM
Either way, shut up, though, right? Now that’s the elixir that will win me over to your side. Ah, somebody’s been reading some Dale Carnegie lately…
/sarc
fossten on July 7, 2008 at 3:25 PM
So, its your contention that even though he has been in the Senate for MANY years, and that he has shown NO leadership on the issue of entitlement reform, even when the Reps held BOTH houses of Congress, that he will now be able to reform entitlements in a palatable way with the DEMS in charge of Congress???
And once again, straight to the snarky personal attacks. I notice you don’t answer my points, but just try to imply that I’m deranged, which is what I pointed out many many posts ago.
Thankyou for prooving my point…
Romeo13 on July 7, 2008 at 3:25 PM
NoDonkey on July 7, 2008 at 3:21 PM
His rationale lacks logic and integrity.
maverick muse on July 7, 2008 at 3:25 PM
Thanks for the insult, that must have made you feel good. Obviously you don’t want a serious answer.
But you will get one anyway, you poopoo head.
So I guess the mayor of L.A, Villaraigosa, has nothing to say about illegal immigrants, the Gov. has nothing to say, Pelosi has nothing to say.
Gee, it seems if the states had a real problem they would be able to sway the “evil” senators.
BTW, immigration policy is everyones problem, every elected official…none are immune. I guess you and I disagree.
right2bright on July 7, 2008 at 3:26 PM
Obvious backpedaler is obvious.
fossten on July 7, 2008 at 3:26 PM
Carol Herman, I presume.
flenser on July 7, 2008 at 3:27 PM
Who was your candidate of choice?
right2bright on July 7, 2008 at 3:28 PM
flenser on July 7, 2008 at 3:24 PM, A convincing MB4 immitation.
Peel yourself.
maverick muse on July 7, 2008 at 3:28 PM
What are you going to do Fossten?
Are you going to sit on your ass at home while the elections go on?
Are you going to vote?
I will be at Basic Training again when the election happens and waiting for a Drill Sgt to tell me who won. I am going to put my vote in a week before I head off.
There is my story, WTF is yours?
upinak on July 7, 2008 at 3:29 PM
Who was yours? Mine was Fred.
fossten on July 7, 2008 at 3:29 PM
So what does that mean? You don’t know? Or you won’t tell?
All I’m asking for is some names. You seem to know who they are, and it’s no big secret, so let us all in on your observations.
Redhead Infidel on July 7, 2008 at 3:29 PM
Honestly, I have no problem with that, if that’s what you want to call people. This is just a posting on a blog. If that makes you feel good and worthy, do it…really, you don’t know where I live do you?
right2bright on July 7, 2008 at 3:30 PM
Kitty kitty, put the claws away. No reason you should be angry at me, after all, you’re the one who told me to shut up.
My answer is a bit nuanced, but here it is. If McCain gets on board with ANWR and shale oil and nuclear and starts promoting drilling like gangbusters, I might be persuaded to vote for him. Otherwise, I’m staying home.
And I will still have the right to comment on politics, despite your fondest wishes.
fossten on July 7, 2008 at 3:31 PM
Like these charming patriots:
http://www.catholicleague.org/release.php?id=1300
If some “minuteman” clown attempted to intimidate my child during her first communion, he’d need about a minute to spit out his broken teeth.
Bowing down to TV preachers isn’t high on my list of requirements for Presidents. TV preachers no more represent American christians than Al Sharpton represents American blacks.
NoDonkey on July 7, 2008 at 3:31 PM
Completely joking in this post. I mean. But you kind of sound like a Clintonite furious over Her Thighness losing and want McCain to destroy conservatism and reinstate the Clintons in the White House. I don’t really believe that; it was just a thought to lighten the thread.
Branch Rickey on July 7, 2008 at 3:32 PM
I’d have to agree with you there.
fossten on July 7, 2008 at 3:32 PM
I will tell you after Romeo fesses up.
right2bright on July 7, 2008 at 3:33 PM
fossten, ffs I am being general… not saying it just to you!
I am/was a fred-head as well. But think about it. Do you seriously want Obama as President?
upinak on July 7, 2008 at 3:34 PM
Says the crybaby spewing invective all through this thread. If you can’t take it, don’t dish it out.
I’m sure you deduced that from my insistent demands for a serious answer.
I didn’t say “the states have nothing to say about illegal immigratiion”, you dishonest hack. I said, correctly, that it is mainly the responsibility of the Federal government. I pointed out that John “Secure the borders first” McCain has nothing in his record that suggests the slightest interest in securing the borders. pointed out that people living anywhere in the US are paying higher taxes because of the Feds’ open border policy, one which McCain is fully on board with.
Those are all facts. You’d amaze and impress me if you responded to them.
Have you told McCain that?
flenser on July 7, 2008 at 3:34 PM
See First Amendment.
Johan Klaus on July 7, 2008 at 3:34 PM
Trollbait. Obviously, glaringly placed yet eagerly taken.
This is why no effort is required to reveal the Paulnuts. They do it all themselves!
Thank you for the continuous, if a bit too predictable, entertainment.
Gilda on July 7, 2008 at 3:35 PM
That’s deep. Another in the long line of high quality HA commenters.
flenser on July 7, 2008 at 3:37 PM
Let’s see Juan McBernie address this in a sincere manner. Then I might be impressed.
“The Real Reason For America’s [looming] Recession 3-13-8″
I hope the following 14 reasons for the United States financial “recession” disaster are forwarded over and over again, until American Citizens get the message and demand better government.
1. $11 Billion to $22 billion is spent on welfare to illegal aliens each year.
2. $2.2 Billion dollars a year is spent on food assistance programs such as food stamps, WIC, and free school lunches for illegal aliens.
3. $2.5 Billion dollars a year is spent on Medicaid for illegal aliens.
4. $12 Billion dollars a year is spent on primary and secondary school education for children here illegally and they cannot speak a word of English!
5. $17 Billion dollars a year is spent for education for the American-born children of illegal aliens, known as anchor babies.
6. $3 Million Dollars a DAY is spent to incarcerate illegal aliens.
7. 30% percent of all Federal Prison inmates are illegal aliens.
8. $90 Billion Dollars a year is spent on illegal aliens for Welfare & social services by the American taxpayers.
9. $200 Billion Dollars a year in suppressed American wages are caused by the illegal aliens.
10. The illegal aliens in the United States have a crime rate that’s two and a half times that of white non-illegal aliens. In particular, their children, are going to make a huge additional crime problem in the US
11. During the year of 2005 there were 4 to 10 MILLION illegal aliens that crossed our Southern Border also, as many as 19,500 illegal aliens from Terrorist Countries. Millions of pounds of drugs, cocaine, meth., heroin and marijuana, crossed into the U. S from the Southern border. Homeland Security Report.
12. The National Policy Institute, ‘estimated that the total cost of mass deportation would be between $206 and $230 billion or an average cost of between $41 and $46 billion annually over a five year period.’
13. In 2006 illegal aliens sent home $45 BILLION in remittances back to their countries of origin.
14. ‘The Dark Side of Illegal Immigration: Nearly One Million Sex Crimes Committed by Illegal Immigrants In The United States ‘.
The total cost is a whopping $ 338.3 BILLION DOLLARS A YEAR!!!”
- Ursa Major
MB4 on July 7, 2008 at 3:37 PM
UUMMMMM, my point, if you would have looked past your anger at not getting everyone to agree with you, is that in the MOVIE (and I did state that it was a MOVIE), he found that money by doing sane things, i.e., making contractors wait for their money until they finished their projects instead of paying them for future projects while current projects remain unfinished, putting money into interest bearing accounts instead of letting it sit there, consolidating, using resources currently available, etc. You know, the sane things that most reasonable people do when they are budgeting properly. I’m not going to pay the roofer to roof my second house when he’s not finished my first one, am I? Holding money in escrow, where it can gain interest instead of sitting there gaining nothing is just smart. That was my point, and your sarcasm only makes you look petty and churlish.
LickyLicky on July 7, 2008 at 3:37 PM
Flenser,
Did “JetBoy” even make a coherent point in that post? I still don’t get it. Do you?
Cordially,
BR
Branch Rickey on July 7, 2008 at 3:37 PM
And that is the most reasonable (don’t agree) post today. The great right we have in this country is the right “not to vote”, however along with that comes a huge burden. That is, you risk putting the worst in office. The irony is there are no perfect candidates…only in our dreams and maybe memories.
And yes, one still has every right to complain if they don’t vote, because it is a deliberate action. It’s the ones that wake on the day after election and say “when do we get to vote?”, they don’t have a say.
right2bright on July 7, 2008 at 3:38 PM
The next time that “Jet Boy” makes a coherent point will be the first.
flenser on July 7, 2008 at 3:40 PM
There is nothing of the sort.
Border Patrol agents are risking their lives on the border along with members of the US military. ICE is raiding businesses across the country and rightfully deporting illegals. Already, immigrants are leaving on their own accord.
John McCain simply tried to introduce realistic legislation that had the support of President Bush. The American public will NEVER support a multi-billion dollar, hideously ugly, 2,000 mile border fence across Mexico, which would immediately become the defacto symbol of our country.
And they aren’t going to support the checkpoints and the other intrusive measures that would be required to rid the country of 20 million illegals.
This is an irrelevant issue that does not move the needle. Tancredo and Hunter got almost no support at all during the primary, because the majority of the country does not care about this issue.
NoDonkey on July 7, 2008 at 3:41 PM
Blind. And dead wrong.
Redhead Infidel on July 7, 2008 at 3:42 PM
I guess I can’t argue with that, as there’s nothing there.
NoDonkey on July 7, 2008 at 3:43 PM
Get out of my party, you left-wing loon. You already turned the Democats into slime, you’re not doing the same to the GOP.
A CPUSA cell somewhere is missing its propagandist.
flenser on July 7, 2008 at 3:45 PM
The first line of the quote gave away the slant and veracity of the article.
Johan Klaus on July 7, 2008 at 3:46 PM
Fess up? As in confess to wrong doing? Interesting choice of words… and indicitive of your mindset.
Early on it was Thompson, then a very lukewarm support for Romney, as he had executive experience.
Why think it was Paul? I know some who would like to dismiss my opinion because of it… but sorry.
But as I am not a registerd Republican, I did not vote in the primary.
Romeo13 on July 7, 2008 at 3:47 PM
And Arnold (D-CA) had a VOTE in the senate regarding FEDERAL COMPREHENSIVE IMMIGRATION “REFORM”? Oh, wait. He’s a governor and didn’t have a vote in the SENATE and then had to be saved from himself by the American public b*$@% slapping over giving us, here legally and by birth, the proverbial finger?
LAME
Branch Rickey on July 7, 2008 at 3:47 PM
Not to mention his good friend Ted “The Swimmer” Kennedy.
Oh dear, I said something mean about a Catholic. Now you’ll be really upset.
flenser on July 7, 2008 at 3:48 PM
Sorry to spoil your party. Mommy will make it up to you for your second birthday.
Seems to me the one who want to build fences across borders, are more akin to the CPUSA.
But since it would only be an ineffective and ridiculously expensive effort to keep people out (the founding fathers would have loved that for sure), perhaps we can call it the Golden Shower Curtain.
NoDonkey on July 7, 2008 at 3:49 PM
Still waiting for the McCainuts to cite all the conservative bills he has sponsored during his 20+ years in the Senate. I guess the amount is so vast that it’s taking you a while to make the list.
flenser on July 7, 2008 at 3:50 PM
Oh, it’s all here on HotAir. I’ve written about it umpteen times. Use Gilda’s handy search tip and pull it all up.
And – oh happy day – according to r2br, it’s legit to criticize McCain on open borders. No derangement there.
Redhead Infidel on July 7, 2008 at 3:50 PM
Where did you copy that from?
right2bright on July 7, 2008 at 3:51 PM
on the border issue, I don’t see much difference between mccain and obama. in fact mccain is worse, since he is the prime sponsor of amnesty.
uh I don’t support obama at all, just as I don’t support mccain. but mccain is not that anti-abortion, and he’d throw us under the bus as fast as obama threw his grandmother, if he could get some political advantage out of it.
right4life on July 7, 2008 at 3:51 PM
Claiming Kennedy’s Catholic is a slander against the church. He’s no more a Catholic than he is an EMT.
NoDonkey on July 7, 2008 at 3:52 PM
the fence works, and yes people would support it..
you’re a lib.
right4life on July 7, 2008 at 3:52 PM
And that is the problem.
Johan Klaus on July 7, 2008 at 3:53 PM
I just have to say that Morrissey’s spin on anything re:McCain is exceedingly painful and awkward. He should try getting a job with the doddering McCain campaign. Maybe be can be of some help while a 3-year neophyte marxist Senator is kicking his ineffectual a$$.
Redhead Infidel on July 7, 2008 at 3:54 PM
And I’m sure I’ve read it umpteen times.
Where do I go to get my two minutes back?
NoDonkey on July 7, 2008 at 3:55 PM
Of course, because global internationalism is so in tune with conservatism and so against Marxist doctrine.
Like most left-wing loons, you have a very peculiar idea of what the Founders believed in.
As for the fence, it is only one part of the multiple part program needed to keep illegals out. But a neccessary part.
flenser on July 7, 2008 at 3:55 PM
The Golden Shower Curtain works?
Sure it does. Just as well as all the other big government programs do.
NoDonkey on July 7, 2008 at 3:56 PM
The majority of Republican primary voters voted for candidates who opposed open borders. But you’re not the type to let pesky facts stand in your way.
flenser on July 7, 2008 at 3:57 PM
Yes, I must have missed Ron Paul’s piece in the federalist papers, et al. He doesn’t look a day over 200 either.
Especially the part where confiscating privately owned properly to build the Golden Shower Curtain becomes necessary.
NoDonkey on July 7, 2008 at 3:58 PM
do you have any facts to back up what you say? of course the fence works, look at what happened in San Diego when we built one there.
right4life on July 7, 2008 at 3:58 PM
He’s no more a Catholic than you are.
flenser on July 7, 2008 at 3:59 PM
Yes, they did. 100% in fact.
NoDonkey on July 7, 2008 at 3:59 PM
My 47 year old brother will be in Iraq and I will be helping with his teenage children (as I did when he was in Afghanistan and Iraq previously). Dare to question anyone else’s right to vote for whom ever he or she chooses or are just the only one making sacrifices?
Branch Rickey on July 7, 2008 at 4:00 PM
Let’s not get personal, flossy.
NoDonkey on July 7, 2008 at 4:01 PM
The fence is not to keep the illegals out, but to keep the people from Arizona, California and Texas from invading Mexico, Central America and South American an taking the jobs that they wil not do.
Johan Klaus on July 7, 2008 at 4:01 PM
I’ll be checking back in this thread for that list as well. It would be reassuring.
RushBaby on July 7, 2008 at 4:02 PM
As long as it is no where me; I’m good.
Branch Rickey on July 7, 2008 at 4:05 PM
hideously ugly…
A great point of debate for the border fence. Perhaps if we hippied it up? Of course that’ll cost extra, plus snacks…
Is cap and trade a tax?
catmman on July 7, 2008 at 4:05 PM
You pathetic left wing moron, the part “where confiscating privately owned property” to serve the national interest is written in the Constitution in black and white. It’s called the Fifth Amendment. Maybe if you spend as much time on American civics as reading Das Kapital you’d be aware of that.
The takings clause has been used to bulld everything from the railroads to shopping malls. Only a left-wing dipstick like you would try to use it to prevent border security.
flenser on July 7, 2008 at 4:05 PM
The fence is already law. To NOT build it is illegal.
A fence is extremely effective. That’s already been proven. That you don’t know that only underscores your ignorance.
In San Diego, crime dropped 50%. Human smuggling even more.
The fence that has already been written into law is the exact same double-layer fence with a hi-speed Border patrol road in between that has been so effective in San Diego.
Redhead Infidel on July 7, 2008 at 4:05 PM
NoDonkey on July 7, 2008 at 3:56 PM
Would regulating carbon emmissions be considered “a big government program”?
catmman on July 7, 2008 at 4:07 PM
So was it OK for the Supremes to allow the confiscation of private property to increase the tax base.
Johan Klaus on July 7, 2008 at 4:08 PM
Would making the government into an official employment agency working for the corporations be a “big government program”?
flenser on July 7, 2008 at 4:10 PM
I liked “Die Hard” too. Maybe we just get Bruce Willis to hunt down UBL. Fabulous arguments. Next, speeding should be outlawed because we all know Grease Lighting encouraged driving over 55 mph. ahahahahahahaha
When you something from a grown-ups perspective maybe you should read more instead of watching far-fetched cinema. Just a suggestion.
Branch Rickey on July 7, 2008 at 4:11 PM
Actually I really meant it, I hope that made you feel good, I don’t know where the “crybaby” came from, I really hope you felt better name calling.
Normally when you start off with a derogatory remark, you are not expecting any kind of thoughtful response, I gave you one, despite your insensitive first sentence.
Again the little name calling, you do have a bad habit. I bet you can only get away with that when you are on the internet, hidden. But here is your quote just to remind you, and you seem pretty adamant.
You must have meant it is not entirely state policy, or something, let me know next time and I will fill in the words you forgot to type.
Well I have both amazed you and impressed you, but it will wear off as soon a your meds do.
and finally:
Yes, in a couple of letters and emails. He is dead wrong on his immigration policy…dead wrong, he must come up with a better solution, after we secure the border. He is barely tolerable because of this issue, but then I remember the Republicans turning their back on the Blacks, and losing 150 years of goodwill in a few years because some of the “conservatives” were so adamant about not giving rights to them. It has to be done right, we are the party that can and have helped immigrants, and ex-slaves join in America’s great wealth. I don’t want to alienate them (pun alert), they are too valuable of a commodity, not for the votes (that’s the Dem mentality), but because immigrant desire to create, build, improve, are what America is built upon. And left to the Dems, they will follow the fate of the blacks, losing any hope of education, morality, self worth, all for a few votes.
right2bright on July 7, 2008 at 4:12 PM
But I’m not being personal. Your notions of all the worlds people being free to come and go as they please is not only not American or conservative, it’s not even Catholic.
flenser on July 7, 2008 at 4:12 PM
Do you mind if I borrow that? Awesome.
I collect Kennedy jokes. Whoops, that was redundant. They are jokes.
Branch Rickey on July 7, 2008 at 4:13 PM
Fess up, you are way to literal, calm down.
Fred was my first choice, until he fell asleep. He wasn’t the strongest fiscal guy either.
It was more a process of elimination. Huck and Paul were the last on my list, way last.
The rest have so many good and bad, that it was a coin toss. But all were and are better then anything the Dems had going.
right2bright on July 7, 2008 at 4:16 PM
Like Ramos and Campeon (excuse if the spelling is incorrect?) and McVain doesn’t give a hoot about them or their plight. Why are you digging more of a hole for Juan if you are a supporter of him? Seriously, quit while you are WAY behind or it’ll be Pres. Obamamfoofama Obama and the religious right will stick it to you Rockerfeller (sp?) Republicans for four years, baby! Just saying….
Branch Rickey on July 7, 2008 at 4:17 PM
Do you mean like during the civil war?
Johan Klaus on July 7, 2008 at 4:19 PM
tacky, tacky, tacky
Branch Rickey on July 7, 2008 at 4:22 PM
Stop repeating left-wing talking points. The blacks stopped supporting the GOP and started supporting the Dems in the 1930’s, back when the Dems were still very much the party of segregation. So you are factually wrong.
You are also morally wrong. It’s disgusting to liken the blacks, brought here against their will hundreds of years ago, to the Hispanics who are here illegally. The former were victims, the later are criminals.
But it’s not namecalling. You are a dishonest hack, one who lies far too often.
A commodity, hmm? You’re quite the humanitarian.
Immigrants do not desire these things. They desire more money in their own pockets. Hispanic immigrants see the way to get that as supporting the left wing party. That is why they have always voted Democratic.
You have some very odd ideas about how wealth is created.
flenser on July 7, 2008 at 4:23 PM
Was I posting to you, here let me look…nope, you weren’t who I was talking to.
But I hope being included makes you feel like you are “in”.
right2bright on July 7, 2008 at 4:25 PM
Can you be more specific on what you remember? When did the Republicans turn their back on blacks? The reason I ask, is because, as I’m sure you already know, the first black politicians were all Republicans – the Party of Lincoln.
BTW, I’m glad you put “conservatives” in quotes, because otherwise I’d think you were actually talking about conservatives.
Redhead Infidel on July 7, 2008 at 4:25 PM
right2bright on July 7, 2008 at 4:12 PM
What?
Maybe I’m a little foggy. I thought it was Al Gore Sr. and the other Dems who wanted to keep rights from blacks.
Or did Robert Byrd just switch parties?
catmman on July 7, 2008 at 4:25 PM
Who was the first president to present a civil rights bill?
right2bright on July 7, 2008 at 4:26 PM
Just because it’s so darn impressive when it’s all collected in one place. And this from only one page! Ahh, the jokes, they do indeed write themselves:
And the pièce de résistance, ladies and gentlemen, I give you the True Conservative™ in all its self-mocktastic glory:
I rest my case.
Gilda on July 7, 2008 at 4:27 PM
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