Video: Vets for Freedom endorse change we can believe in
posted at 2:15 pm on July 6, 2008 by Allahpundit
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Relax. They mean real change, not the rhetorical kind.
This is, ostensibly, an election ad, and admittedly it’s not hard to deduce which candidate most of them prefer, but I dig the fact that they don’t so much as mention McCain or Obama. The cause is bigger than the campaign — although if they want to be cheeky, they should put out a new ad congratulating Barry O on his newfound openness to stability-driven “refinements” of his withdrawal plan. Imagine some lefty turning on his TV to find that spot running: “Vets for Freedom salutes its newest ally in the fight for victory in Iraq: Sen. Barack Obama.”
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Classic.
Heads would go boom.
Rhinoboy on July 6, 2008 at 2:20 PM
“He is now opposed to Iraqi genocide” I guess that doesn’t flow too well for an ad, does it?
a capella on July 6, 2008 at 2:27 PM
If what AP suggests would be materialized in a new video/ad, then Obama could change his mind on Iraq a few more times, with a carte blanche. It would still be effective.
The (idiotic) weasel, Frank Rich at the NYT, uses a variation of the Obamaesque “inartful speech”. He chose “verbally maladroit”.
Flip-flopping = 0
“Inartful speech” + “verbally maladroit” = 1
I await with great anticipation the next variation of our mind-games.
Beware your mind-masters, our elitist manipulative media!
Entelechy on July 6, 2008 at 2:32 PM
Great ad
ordi on July 6, 2008 at 2:34 PM
Very well done.
katieanne on July 6, 2008 at 2:37 PM
Good, real good. Not mentioning either candidate is especially good.
Even Alex would like it.
SteveMG on July 6, 2008 at 2:39 PM
Wars are the ultimate win all the marbles or lose all the marbles scenario, what is it about there is no half ass in war that liberals don’t get?
Speakup on July 6, 2008 at 2:40 PM
An uplifting vid amongst all the MSM defeatism and censorship of success. The MSM and their bias hardly surprise me anymore but the total blackout on success in Iraq is amazing. They don’t seem to so much as think twice about their ideological campaigning nowadays. It’s gotten rather creepy.
Django on July 6, 2008 at 2:47 PM
U.S. men and women are getting killed and having their arms and legs blown off at an all-time low since the beginning of the invasion. Translation: Americans are STILL sacrificing their lives for a group of people that have been killing each other since the dawn of their existence. Maybe one day they’ll say thank you by giving us some of that oil for a deep discount. Of course, if McShame has his way, they’ll have at least 100 years to make good on their collective debt.
DanKenton on July 6, 2008 at 2:49 PM
Obama in tank with flak jacket and helmet in 5…4…3…
profitsbeard on July 6, 2008 at 2:52 PM
Yes, but of course he won’t have any type of firearm, but gun kill people. Really a great ad, Vets for Freedom is doing a good thing. I want to enlist so badly when I see those commercials, but I am in college now and I have a career starting with HSBC, but I would give it all up in a second to serve my country, it makes me so sad to know that I will probably not.
Canerican on July 6, 2008 at 3:02 PM
Goose pimples on my goose pimples, but no thrill running up my leg.
Canerican…God bless you. Don’t be sad, there are many ways to serve your country. Something will happen that will fulfill that dream of service; you will make it happen.
Christine on July 6, 2008 at 3:10 PM
That may or may not be true (I think you’re grossly misreading the history of the country).
But the critical issue that you apparently don’t want to consider was for the US to prevent Al-Qaeda from gaining a foothold in Iraq and from driving us in retreat from the region.
An Al-Qaeda victory would have been disastrous for us and for any confidence our allies have in turning back radical Islam. Not to mention a great recruiting tool for AQ in their war against the non-believers.
You may smear McCain all you want but that avoids the central fact that he was right on this, continues to be right and if we had surrendered Iraq to AQ the consquences would have been devastating.
SteveMG on July 6, 2008 at 3:11 PM
good stuff AP….
jerrytbg on July 6, 2008 at 3:19 PM
SteveMG on July 6, 2008 at 3:11 PM
Yep, that worked so well for us in ‘75, huh? Face it, The Middle East hates the West, and we’re their most prized target. AQ in Iraq is a punchline and just an excuse to keep throwing money and lives down a big, dark hole. I wonder how much border security we could have purchased with a TRILLION dollars? Oh, that’s right, McShame doesn’t want border security, he wants COMPREHESIVE IMMIGRATION policies that just happen to resemble amnesty.
DanKenton on July 6, 2008 at 3:23 PM
good video
bnelson44 on July 6, 2008 at 3:24 PM
http://www.vetsforfreedom.org/
bnelson44 on July 6, 2008 at 3:24 PM
Wow Dan! you hit most of your talking points in one paragraph, but tell me, why McShame?
I get it that you and your ilk will repeat “McShame” until it becomes a fact. The man will be reduced to a shameful caricature of the man he once was thanks to your Insightful wordplay. But I do want to get onboard here. Enlighten me, what has brought shame to this once proud man?
On second thought, don’t bother. I get it. It’s a tag to define the opposition. But isn’t it like the Big Brother Sloganeering crap that comes out of the mouths of most socilists? You know, “Bush lied, people died” or “no war for oil” take the humanity out of the man by reducing him and focusing in on that one little nugget that will fly.
Clever, Dan. We will overlook all that McCain was or will be because you reduced him to one word.
dingbat on July 6, 2008 at 3:27 PM
Excellent. God Bless The Troops .
Texyank on July 6, 2008 at 3:32 PM
You don’t think AQ in Iraq was a concern for us? You say it’s “an excuse”. An “excuse” for whom?
And, sorry I don’t think the Middle East “hates” the West. There are a wide variety of peoples in the Middle East all with varying thoughts and opinions. In fact, the emergence of AQ and radical Islam came, in part, from increasing support by Muslisms for democracy and greater pluralism, e.g., western ideas.
Documentation for this latter point (I rely heavily on Bernard Lewis for my views) can be found here and here.
SteveMG on July 6, 2008 at 3:34 PM
The surge worked? What are they talking about, there’s nothing in the news about it! They must be mistaken. I thought Reid had already surrendered to somebody.
Oldnuke on July 6, 2008 at 3:54 PM
Hope and Change, Deny and Lie; those that willingly disregard the stated objectives of AQ as communicated by Osama himself, (sorry, I forgot Bin Laden works for the CIA) are fools. Go ahead and keep embarrasing yourself, signup for “truther” conferences, believe that by electing Obama, America will finally achieve racial equality, embrace Islamic extremists with open arms and moral relativity, protect the Snail Darter at all costs, rally for free speech as you hail the fairness doctrine, the beat goes on, hypocrisy knows no bounds in the world of progressive tools!
Obama or Die
dmann on July 6, 2008 at 4:06 PM
A great ad to round out the Independence weekend. I am happy to be an American, whose military members promote liberty and opportunity.
onlineanalyst on July 6, 2008 at 4:07 PM
Totally agree with Vets for Freedom , which is why I gave them 50 bucks this morning and I’ll give 50 bucks everytime I see another new ad from them.
A Proud parent of a SOLDIER
Rick554 on July 6, 2008 at 4:09 PM
DanKenton said:
So tell us Mr. Kenton, what is your suggestion? Pull them out? Do nothing? I bet dollars to donuts that you simply like whining to hear your own voice and tow the liberal bumper sticker mindset. How about offering a suggestion on how to improve the situation?
::cricket cricket::
Yep, thought so. You don’t HAVE a solution. You can’t COMPREHEND the concept of long term occupation for long term peace. You simply ebody the teenage temper tantrum thinking of the left.
If you don’t have a solution, have a nice hot cup of Shut the Hell Up.
::end rant::
cannonball on July 6, 2008 at 4:14 PM
DanKenton, why are you posting here? Shouldn’y you be somewhere protesting our unlawful occupation of Germany? I mean, c’mon… we’ve been there more than 60 years.
cannonball on July 6, 2008 at 4:17 PM
Vets for Freedom is a nonpartisan organization established by combat veterans of the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan. Our mission is to educate the American public about the importance of achieving success in these conflicts by applying our first-hand knowledge to issues of American strategy and tactics in Iraq. We support policymakers from both sides of the aisle who have stood behind our great generation of American warriors on the battlefield, and who have put long-term national security before short-term partisan political gain.
http://www.vetsforfreedom.org/volunteer/
bnelson44 on July 6, 2008 at 4:17 PM
Eighteen months ago John McCain argued that the safest way out of Iraq was to win, then withdraw. Barack Obama, parroting the received wisdom of the Democratic foreign policy establishment, said that victory in any meaningful sense was not only unlikely, but that the presence of large numbers of American soldiers actually fed the insurgency and decreased the prospects for stability. On that crucially important decision, at least, it is becoming ever more obvious that McCain was right and Obama was wrong.
http://tigerhawk.blogspot.com/2008/07/judgment-on-iraq-sorting-right-from.html
bnelson44 on July 6, 2008 at 4:28 PM
Playing the devil’s advocate here, I think the argument is that we simply cannot expend the resources in Iraq that we’ve had to (and will continue to do so albeit on a lesser scale), that the enterprise will inevitably fail (democracy can’t take hold in such a culture) and that it’s smarter to focus/expend resources on our security here at the homeland instead of nation-building abroad.
Further, AQ simply can’t succeed in Iraq, they’ll eventually be driven out of the country and if somehow they do get a foothold we can always attack them from the air or use other measures.
It’s not an entirely bad argument.
SteveMG on July 6, 2008 at 4:35 PM
The arguement boils down to: after spending over 4,000 lives and billions of dollars to rid Iraq of Saddam, we give it to Iran.
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It really isn’t a very good argument.
bnelson44 on July 6, 2008 at 4:55 PM
Obama, as if his fashion, will go on the defensive thus outting himself.
- The Cat
MirCat on July 6, 2008 at 4:57 PM
Yes, but you know the rejoinder.
I.e., we’ve given the country over to the majority Shi’a by defeating the Sunni Baathists and they’ll be aligned with Iran no matter what we do.
Unless we stay there forever.
I think it’s a simplistic view of Islam and Iraq (as NY Times reporter John Burns pointed out, during the Iran-Iraq war the majority of Iraqi Shi’a freely defended their country from the Persians - no sectarian affinity led them to joining with the Iranians).
SteveMG on July 6, 2008 at 5:02 PM
Didn’t Maliki just kick Iran out of Basra and Baghdad (not to mention a number of other provinces?)
We will need some kind of presence there for awhile. Just like Japan and Germany …. gee, where did I hear that before?
bnelson44 on July 6, 2008 at 5:33 PM
Well, the Mahdi militias. Groups aligned with/supported by Iran.
I think the Iraqi Shi’a are much more independent thinking than those who believe they’ll just gladly (broadly speaking) march along with the Iranians. History shows that, it seems to me.
‘Course, if one thinks all Muslims are a near-monolith in their views of the West, there’s not much I can say to counter things.
SteveMG on July 6, 2008 at 5:49 PM
None of us wants American lives to be sacrificed to fight an enemy, but that is the cost. God bless those who put themselves in harm’s way for the rest of us.
I’m just continually amazed at the military-hating asshats who try to use that argument to prop up their anti-war agenda. As if they give a rat’s ass.
Having said that, don’t they teach kids about Iwo Jima anymore?
Don’t these jerks know how many American casualties there were during the Clinton administration?
Punks.
capitalist piglet on July 6, 2008 at 6:05 PM
P.S. Love the ad.
capitalist piglet on July 6, 2008 at 6:06 PM
fantastic ad.
If the USA gets whatever it wanted, to have an alliance treaty, to have oil exchange, or whatever, I’ll be happy. Otherwise, we had our victory with Saddam’s trial and execution and the Iraqi democratic vote and Iraqi constitution. Nearly a clean sweep temporarily, nearing this point before the election. Re: 100 years, I defer any judgment to Petraeus and his advisers IF the USA actually GETS EVERYTHING IT NEEDS from Iraqi treaty and deals.
The GOP should have a check list ad of positive accomplishments that Bush achieved to clear the field of the monopoly of negativity drowning the media.
Morons need not get bent out of shape. I am not saying that Bush is perfect and did no harm. His RINO qualities are infamous. But he deserves credit for telling our “allies” to put up or shut up at 9/11 and our need to respond. He probably threatened Islamic countries to be nuked if ANYONE again attacked our territory during his presidency, preventing another 9/11 despite his failure to provide border security. Having ousted Saddham Hussein, ONE Arab threatening the USA, Bush deserves credit for FINALLY allowing Petraeus to deliver us from our inept Iraqi ways.
maverick muse on July 6, 2008 at 6:14 PM
It’s not an entirely bad argument.
SteveMG on July 6, 2008 at 4:35 PM
The difference between AQ and America is that we’re playing 2 different strategies; them chess and us checkers. If you actually think bigger government, this occupation and the TSA is keeping us from getting hit again on our soil, sleep tight sweethearts. I’ve got 30+ trips to the Middle East on my passport since Desert Storm and we’re not welcome there regardless of what Right Wing blog convinced you we were.
DanKenton on July 6, 2008 at 6:20 PM
I want to enlist so badly … but I am in college now and I have a career starting with HSBC, but I would give it all up in a second to serve my country … - Canerican
HSBC will still be there when you get back. Don’t miss out on your chance to be a part of History. You’re young and you have your whole life ahead of you, don’t wait ’til you’re old to say “I should’ve done this or I wish I did that.”
Tony737 on July 6, 2008 at 6:39 PM
CBS covered the ad
CBS - Obama’s Changing Iraq Stance?
WoosterOh on July 6, 2008 at 8:09 PM
Do you really think that would affect a Barry supporter? If they’re a Barry supporter, they’ve already decided that honesty isn’t very important to them (either that, or they’re just morons). Remember that Obama supporters aren’t thinking people. That type of ad isn’t going to get their attention.
RightWinged on July 6, 2008 at 9:39 PM
Hey Dan, do us all a favor and make your next trip one way, you obviously have more in common with your friends in the Middle East. You say we aren’t welcome there, well you are no longer welcome here
Ltmousseman on July 6, 2008 at 9:47 PM
Well, you know Obama said he was all about delivering change and danged if he wasn’t true to his word: He has delivered change on every position he’s ever held.
Tantor on July 7, 2008 at 1:49 AM
I seem to remember the U.S. being attacked.
Johan Klaus on July 7, 2008 at 2:08 AM
The difference between the U.S. and AQ is that our military kicks there butt. And if you think that they are so tough, let them try to invade this second amendment country.
Johan Klaus on July 7, 2008 at 2:15 AM
Patriot: the person who can holler the loudest without knowing what he is hollering about.
- Mark Twain
Patriotism is supporting your country all the time, and your government when it deserves it.
- Mark Twain
My kind of loyalty was to one’s country, not to its institutions or its officeholders. The country is the real thing, the substantial thing, the eternal thing; it is the thing to watch over, and care for, and be loyal to. Institutions are extraneous, they are its mere clothing, and clothing can wear out, become ragged, cease to be comfortable, cease to protect the body from winter, disease, and death.
- Mark Twain
MB4 on July 7, 2008 at 5:55 AM
Is Mark Twain supposed to be the thread-killer now?
I thought he was a dead white racist male. Haven’t liberals succeeded in getting “Tom Sawyer” and “Huckleberry Finn” banished from school reading lists? Funny how he is suddenly in vogue again.
rockmom on July 7, 2008 at 9:56 AM
Johan Klaus on July 7, 2008 at 2:15 AM
Thank you Von Klaus, wisdom like this keeps my business in the black and my wallet fat. By the way, Iraq didn’t attack us on 9/11. We invaded Iraq because of their gigantic stockpile of WMD’s and their nuclear ambitions. Oh wait, sorry, I meant we invaded Iraq to rid the world of a brutal dictator. No, actually it was GOD who told GWB to invade Iraq to ensure peace for Israel and the Middle East. Kind of hard to keep track, huh? Well, the good news is, with an ever-changing array of excuses for the invasion, Bush will get plenty of opportunity to whip out his “MISSION ACCOMPLISHED” banner.
DanKenton on July 7, 2008 at 12:20 PM
We invaded Iraq to rid the world of a brutal and malevolent dictator who had (and used) chemical weapons and who was determined to obtain nuclear weapons. This week’s story on the yellowcake removed to Canada from Iraq should put the “he was a harmless little fuzzball” arguments to bed.
We also invaded Iraq to reform it and show the unstable, backward Muslim countries in the region by an Iraqui example that a much better life was available to them if they quit following extremists who murdered their neighbors and started living as a responsible world citizens under a new government which contained at least some element of democracy.
The leftist MSM feigns amnesia and ignores this part of the rationale because not one single Democrat has ever done anything so big and bold and which could potentially solve the Mid-East problem.
While we are a few steps away from total success, an enormous amount of progress has been made, and history is very likely to include George Bush as one of the worlds’ great visionaries: a thought which the Democrats and other enemies of America cannot stand because it exposes them as the small-minded whiners that they are.
landlines on July 7, 2008 at 3:47 PM