Video: Michelle on Obama’s Iraq flip-flop
posted at 8:20 pm on July 4, 2008 by Allahpundit
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Instapundit e-mailed yesterday offering the following comparison: Here’s the anti-war poster, and here’s the newly minted pro-war version.
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Nice mataphor, on target too.
Hog Wild on July 4, 2008 at 8:30 PM
I guess the current talking point is insisting someone has flip-flopped when they’re position actually hasn’t changed at all.
Nonfactor on July 4, 2008 at 8:34 PM
“I’ll be refining my position … ”
Flipper is at the brink but has not yet done his trick. I doubt the cage in Denver will constrain the rabid if he does it.
laelaps on July 4, 2008 at 8:34 PM
Good job Michelle! :)
BTW, I like the top. :}
Chakra Hammer on July 4, 2008 at 8:36 PM
I wouldn’t hold it at Invesco Field. The comparisons to the Nuremberg rallies would be just too creepy to risk conjuring up.
TheBigOldDog on July 4, 2008 at 8:37 PM
Wow. Michelle looks really good in fire engine red. Er…what was the video clip about again.
My collie says:
Right. Mile high to be exact. It’s the only way that they can compete with the loons in Seattle and San Francisco.
CyberCipher on July 4, 2008 at 8:39 PM
Lord help us: a Troll is already among us, with the usual vapid trite worthless drool
Maybe McCain is better off South of the Border, letting Obama-mamma pirouette around and around until a wortwhile number of Voters get truly and lastingly sick of him
Sometimes, it’s best to let your opponent defeat himself ( especially if he’s getting really good at serial self-destruction )
….and none of you ( except the troll ) are surprised while you watch Barack twirl and spin and wheel and dance
Janos Hunyadi on July 4, 2008 at 8:40 PM
Obama;
“Change you can believe in!”“I believe in changing my position!”
Beto Ochoa on July 4, 2008 at 8:45 PM
I wish he’d change on off shore drilling and ANWR.
Pretty soon he’ll be right of McCain, come to think of it that wouldn’t take a lot of change.
dhunter on July 4, 2008 at 8:50 PM
Proof, otherwise you are merely a troll.
carbon_footprint on July 4, 2008 at 8:50 PM
I think its a matter oftrying to figure out what Obama stands for.
Its just seems the only issue obama really cares about is Obama being president. Issues dont matter only words.
William Amos on July 4, 2008 at 8:53 PM
Non Factor is a resident liberal who comes in here to state her veiws. I dont agree with them but I dont see it as trolling either.
William Amos on July 4, 2008 at 8:54 PM
How does it feel to be sold out already? Usually politicians wait until they have won before they betray you but your Messiah has such little respect for you he figured it’s safe to do it now.
TheBigOldDog on July 4, 2008 at 8:56 PM
He’s doing Clinis x 10…damn, Willie-Jeff could actually take some lessons from him. So, what are the consequences for our Great Republic, if the most empty-suit, blank-slate, unpricipled, self-serving, elitist, narcissistic man to ever run for the office of President get’s elected…can we survive it? I guess we’ll find out after Inauguration Day…We’ll have to wait and see just how bad a President (and Congress) this amazing country can withstand…think of it as just another experiment in Democracy and the fortitude of a free-people.
AUINSC on July 4, 2008 at 8:56 PM
I know she comments here a lot. However, when the NY Times comes out and calls Obama on his flip-flops and someone has the audacity to deny it, they are either ignorant or trying to stir up the thread. Trolling.
carbon_footprint on July 4, 2008 at 8:57 PM
Don’t be too hard on Nonfactor. Denial is the first reaction to being stabbed in the back by your Messiah.
TheBigOldDog on July 4, 2008 at 9:00 PM
Perhaps you are right. Sorry Nonfactor. Happy 4th everyone.
carbon_footprint on July 4, 2008 at 9:02 PM
Wow. He’s gone from “end the war” to “redefine my policy” …. I can predict what’s in store for Barack:
Keith Olbermann’s Worst. Person. In the World!!!! and the next target for a Code Pink tantrum in 3.. 2..
wise_man on July 4, 2008 at 9:05 PM
Olbermung will praise him for his maturing positions and not letting the shrill voices manipulate him.
Beto Ochoa on July 4, 2008 at 9:08 PM
Exactly, Beto. Olberdung will embrace the reality-based, Machiavellian Obambi.
And nonfactor will cry herself to sleep for a few weeks, after finally coming to the realization that this is not the Barry O’Carter that she thought she knew.
Buck up, honey; if you don’t like Obambi’s position today, just wait a couple days; it’ll change.
Jaibones on July 4, 2008 at 9:16 PM
This is Hopey and Changey in full tilt
Flippenzee/Flopponzee,at its finest!
If you wanna see Obama in full on paresing of the words,
refer to Obama’s comments of the death penalty of child
rape!
His commemts are the finest Kabuki dance,Liberal speak,
fine line,mental hurdles Ive seen!
“16 months timeline under the bus”
Excellent as Always,Commander-in Chief of U.S.S Hot Air
political warship of the blogsphere,Michelle Malkin.
The anti-war crowd,the el’Code Pinko crowd are going to
be livid!
This talk of Obama,,wanting to have the acceptance speech
to a sports arena like atmosphere,reminds me of a person,
who during the 37′ to 40′ area,also had,and wanted to be
in a huge outdoor venue,and the cult of personality like
behavior to mesmerize his followers!
To be sure and clear,I’m only suggesting the atmosphere in
which Obama wants to project!———————–:)
canopfor on July 4, 2008 at 9:20 PM
Its all about the “artful leaps and turns”.
Obama or Die!
dmann on July 4, 2008 at 9:24 PM
I dont see Obama flip flopping on this issue what he did was try and sound more presidentual and less defeatist.
With Iraq improving Obama had to modify his words to not sound like he was incredible weak on international affairs. So he dittered and hem hawed around trying to sound “Tough” without really modifying his veiws.
I for one moment dont thing Obama has any other veiw othre than retreat from Iraq. I see what he did as trying to sugarcoat his defeatist attitude.
William Amos on July 4, 2008 at 9:30 PM
Somewhere along the line,Obama has been
studying Bill (Slick Willy’s)Clinton video’s!
Like a football player studying his apponents
style,and moves!
If Obama ever bites his lower lip,you’ll know
the transformation is complete!
Slick Willy,part deux!!!!!!!
canopfor on July 4, 2008 at 9:34 PM
Lenin on the left, Lenin on the right. I like it … His word is no good, his signature is no good, his character is no good, he is just no good for America, The poster flip perfectly describes Obama, love the communist style lighting, it makes the picture complete.
Just another Democrat post turtle, spinning in the wind.
tarpon on July 4, 2008 at 9:37 PM
Yes, MM, you make sense. And you are hot.
ParisParamus on July 4, 2008 at 9:37 PM
GREAT job Michelle.
back to the game and the INDEPENDENCE DAY FIREWORKS.
(rox need another comeback)
shooter on July 4, 2008 at 9:40 PM
Just another Democrat post turtle,spinning in the wind.
tarpon on July 4,2008 at 9:37PM.
tarpon: Like on the Simpsons show!
Kodo’s and Kane,twirling and twirling!haha:)
canopfor on July 4, 2008 at 9:40 PM
Off to the Fireworks barrage,cheers everyone!!!
canopfor on July 4, 2008 at 9:41 PM
All of his positions on the issues are available on his website. When the guy himself says that his position hasn’t changed and you have people saying “yes it has,” despite there being no evidence to the contrary, it definitely sounds like an overeager use of a talking point.
Nonfactor on July 4, 2008 at 9:45 PM
We need Michelle on TV every night. She’s not only one of our best conservative soldiers, but she looks too good not to be seen under bright lights as often as possible.
Dork B. on July 4, 2008 at 9:52 PM
You missed my point. Im not saying that Obama doesnt have positions Im saying he doesnt have CONVICTIONS. He will take a position as long as its popular. If Iraq was going great and Al Qaeda totally defeated Obama would never say he was wrong he would say “I was always for Victory in Iraq”
He takes safe positions and when they turn sour he magically reinvents his vocabulary and trys to slick word his way into a more popular positon.
He is s;ick willy x 10 in that regard.
William Amos on July 4, 2008 at 9:53 PM
Michelle is correct, Gold Medal for Obama the featherweight.
Thanks for posting this Allah. Happy Independence Day again to all.
Zorro on July 4, 2008 at 9:55 PM
I looked at both links and can see no anti or pro war in either. Do you need special glasses? Am I on Candid Camera?
MB4 on July 4, 2008 at 10:09 PM
A new logo for Flipper emerges.
;-)
notta_dhimmi on July 4, 2008 at 10:10 PM
Off with his head. Sentence first, verdict later.
Sigy on July 4, 2008 at 10:15 PM
The knife he stuck in your back wouldn’t hurt so much if he didn’t keep twisting it! Campaign finance – stick. FISA – twist. 2nd Amendment – twist. Iraq – twist. Abortion – twist. Gay Marriage – twist. It’s all just so painful!
TheBigOldDog on July 4, 2008 at 10:18 PM
Let’s twist again like we did last summer!
carbon_footprint on July 4, 2008 at 10:34 PM
Freudian slip?
At around 3 min. did he say
?
I think he did.
Har.
hillbillyjim on July 4, 2008 at 10:44 PM
MM Nails it. . .Again.
As I Heard on Rushs show a few days ago. I believe it
was snerdly that said. “Obama, The first black Clinton”
Does that ever fit or what. . . .
Texyank on July 4, 2008 at 10:50 PM
Acceptance will come later.
All you have to do, for proof, is watch the video clips, right before MM spoke.
Who believes a word he says? It will change tomorrow, depending on the audience, anyway.
Flip-flopping is left in the dust, as a two-faced move. Abandon it. Triangulation too.
This is up to Pentagonation, and it’s only July 4.
Entelechy on July 4, 2008 at 11:02 PM
That was an excellent appearance MM. I hate to say it but you get better looking every time I see you on the Tee Vee. I concur that the top was great, but you made it look great. Happy Independence Day to you and your family. Freedom Rocks!
Wish we could SEE more of you on the Tee Vee.
ThackerAgency on July 4, 2008 at 11:11 PM
Change That Works For Him
Dr.Cwac.Cwac on July 4, 2008 at 11:30 PM
LOL, Hussein Obama has got to be driving the anti-war wackos, and Code Pinkos nutso.
byteshredder on July 4, 2008 at 11:43 PM
I have a hard time understanding how Democrats, (especially the hard left, anti-war types) with a straight face, keep endorsing Senator Obama after he has repeatedly and unashamedly thrown one precious position after another under the slippery wheels of the Hopeandchange Express.
What exactly is the ‘up-side’ of voting for this pretender? For anybody?
I guess if you are in the Obama camp, you have to hope that he is changing his rhetoric to suit the political climate.
Change that you can believe in, once the two-faced liar makes up his mind (for now) what his next
lieposition will be.hillbillyjim on July 4, 2008 at 11:45 PM
The phrase, “change you can believe in”, is fast becoming a punchline in a bad, bad joke.
hillbillyjim on July 4, 2008 at 11:48 PM
The hell? Either you’re a mind reader or you’re starting up a new religion where you define what convictions are. And you further detract from your inane statement by inventing a straw man after stating someone you’ve never met ‘has no convictions.’
And all you have to do is watch the statement Obama made after that clip.
Nonfactor on July 4, 2008 at 11:53 PM
pentagulation?
Hell, I don’t know, but it’s still bullshit on a bed of rose petals.
hillbillyjim on July 4, 2008 at 11:54 PM
Speak English. I don’t understand half those long words and I’m not sure you do either!
Sigy on July 5, 2008 at 12:00 AM
She speaks English better than most and she speaks American best of all.
hillbillyjim on July 5, 2008 at 12:07 AM
Here:
“I will end this war in Iraq. We will have our troops out in 16 months. That is my solemn commitment.”
That was back in Iowa.
Now, Here:
Note, this is his response to the charge of flip-flopping…
“When I come back, that information will inform how we shape our plans moving foward, for example… how many residual troops might be needed in order to train Iraqis in order to stand up both the army and the police”
Now, despite his asinine assumption that it will be easier to “stand up” the army and police if the country falls back into choas following a swift draw-down of troops, he is now saying he will leave “residual troops.” How many? What will their mandate be? Will they go back to living on bases and not interacting with the population? Will they be safer in fweer numbers? What happens if a bunch of them die? Why can’t they come home if everyone else is?
Besides all that, how is that not a change from his previous commitment to remove all troops from Iraq in 16 months?
Also, he says in the clip that, “I have seen no information that contradicts the notion that we can bring our troops out safely at a pace of 1 to 2 brigade a month”
Hello? Maybe because Obama refuses to meet with Gen. Petraeus or visit Iraq. If he comes across information that tells him that it would be unsafe/unwise, will he change his “plan” for withdrawl? No one knows. And that is the problem.
VolMagic on July 5, 2008 at 12:15 AM
Exactly. Nothing he says means anything. The man is a fraud to the third power of fraudiness.
hillbillyjim on July 5, 2008 at 12:19 AM
Also, from his website:
So, which is it? Are the residual troops going to protect our embassies, or be used to train the Iraqi police and Army? Is there a significant difference in the number of troops needed to fulfill those seperate goals? Also, how is he going to “keep troops in Iraq” if Al Qaeda “attempts to build a base within Iraq?” I mean, wouldn’t he have to know in advance if AQ was going to try to build a base there to keep troops? Otherwise, he would be sending troops back in to take care of that problem. And if the military is under such strain, isn’t simply redeploying the troops to less hostile territory to await a re-conflagtion in Iraq a non-solution? I mean, they would still be on active duty, deployed overseas.
No, no ,no. None of this smells right to me. Obama is lying to someone. Hopefully, it’s you.
VolMagic on July 5, 2008 at 12:25 AM
Nonfactor? Done with that Kool_Aid yet? I believe this one is yours.
hillbillyjim on July 5, 2008 at 12:30 AM
Oh? And who is this “Michelle” woman in the video? Does she have some sort of connection to this website?
Seriously, turn the camera on yourself while you’re sitting at the PC in the closet, e-mail me the raw footage with some notes of how you want it to look, and I’ll edit/post new Vent episodes myself. Estimate a 4-5 hour turnaround at most…
ScottMcC on July 5, 2008 at 12:59 AM
I was starting to think Michelle had retired from TV.
Bill Brasky on July 5, 2008 at 1:13 AM
He’s a politician for chrissakes…that’s what they do. Could Malkin be any more predictable in her takes. So unoriginal. She jumped the shark about 2 years ago.
dakine on July 5, 2008 at 1:28 AM
So any sort of deception is acceptable to you? They’re all politicians, so what does it matter who we vote for? Is this your thesis?
hillbillyjim on July 5, 2008 at 1:40 AM
Answer: Of course he’s changing his tune. Obama wrote the Kama Sutra of political positions.
Mojave Mark on July 5, 2008 at 1:42 AM
All this analysis of the topic and nobody has posted about the Freudian slip of the whole segment (at 3:00):
Connell: “One more issue I want to touch on you…w-w-with you before we let you go…”
(sigh)
I’m Captain Scarlet. And that’s 20/20. We’re in touch, so you be in touch. Goodnight.
Captain Scarlet on July 5, 2008 at 1:45 AM
Uh, dude:
Reading Is Fundamental.
:-)
hillbillyjim on July 5, 2008 at 1:53 AM
Bad link. Sorry.
hillbillyjim on July 5, 2008 at 1:58 AM
Im not a mind reader nor am I creating a straw man. I believe that Obama would say whatever he felt he had to just to win elections.
You see Obama saying “I will withdraw from Iraq” and for you that is written in stone. Yet obama himself has said he will still have some troops in there and reserves the right to go back in to chase Al Qaeda.
Now like any good leftie most feel that the Iraq war is illegal. Yet if it was illegal then why stay at all ? If it was illegal why vote to fund the war ?
Obama jumped down clinton’s throat for voting to go into Iraq. This despite the fact he never had to face that vote himself. And when it comes down to staying in Iraq he has hedged his bets.
So where am I creating a straw man ? It seems to me that Obama did when he piously claims he was “Against the war from the start” and yet still votes to fund it and prosecute it when its in his best interest.
William Amos on July 5, 2008 at 2:03 AM
P.S. It is hard to blame the poor fellow. She is breathtaking.
hillbillyjim on July 5, 2008 at 2:10 AM
Who the hell did Michelle’s make up?
Kahuna on July 5, 2008 at 2:19 AM
This clip isn’t blowing my skirt up. A democrat is flip flopping. Man, I can’t remember the last time that happened. Didn’t the nominee from 2004 for the Democrats earn himself the nickname ‘Waffles’ for his constant flip flopping? Are bears still using our forests as toilets?
I also don’t quite get the glee here. Given the GOP candidates feeble gymnastics on immigration and drilling, I think maybe pot and kettle need to go to neutral corners. Some of the same people I see here gloating over Obama’s flip flopping defended McCain on ‘changing his mind’ on drilling and applauded his ’seeing the light’ on immigration. And no, I’m not defending Obama; if we’re going to celebrate the completely expected phenomenon of politicians changing positions from day to day, let’s apply the scorn consistently.
That’s just for Democrats. If you’re stabbed in the back by a Republican, you make him your nominee for President.
Given who the GOP nominee is, I wouldn’t talk too much about acceptable levels of deception. And no, in this particular campaign, it doesn’t matter much who we vote for. Obama would suck worse, but McCain will do longer term damage to the Republican party.
austinnelly on July 5, 2008 at 2:22 AM
Of course I do not endorse deception at any level. That is silly.
it is crucial to vote for McCain, because Obama will do longer term damage to our nation.
hillbillyjim on July 5, 2008 at 2:42 AM
bobama: change to what marx believes in!
It’s his Clearance Bazaar, folks. Just sift through bobama’s quotations and you’re sure to find one that fits. If he’s all out of what you’re asking for, he takes requests, too. Buy your lotto ticket to hell with him.
As per saying McCain will do longer term damage blah blah blah, what’s been done is done already re: RINO leadership. It is obvious what that creature is and what we must do to contain or motivate the RINO to at least posture correctly. Now the marxist swine is another matter all together, and casting pearls before swine is bloody doom and gloom.
maverick muse on July 5, 2008 at 3:59 AM
Nice.
- The Cat
P.S. But is it really flipping if it’s an obvious lie?
MirCat on July 5, 2008 at 4:09 AM
According to his glaze-gazed drooling followers Obama has not flipped, he’s just doing what’s required to gain power. They’re fine with that because they believe he’s just tricking the rubes into voting for him so he can usher in a new world order based on the socialist principles they heard so much about about in college.
Obama’s the nudge-nudge wink-wink candidate and his acolytes think they’re in on the joke. Vanguard of the Proletariat and all; those who’ve fallen for Obama’s cult of personality believe they’re the con man (Vanguard) and ordinary Americans, “low-information voters” in their own parlance, are the mark (Proletariat). By any means necessary, dontcha know.
So Obama’s either a crass flipflopper or a crafty liar. Right now I think he’s a liar but there’s really no way to be sure. No chance though that he is now or ever will be an honest, principled servant of the American people.
Excellent work, thank you!
Gilda on July 5, 2008 at 5:25 AM
Change we can believe in and hope for…
sabbott on July 5, 2008 at 7:11 AM
But Obama will do longer term damage to the country. This election is all about the Supreme Court.
Obama would pick liberal justices who would enshrine as precent forever the right to abortion on demand, the banning of capital punishment, the right to homosexual marriage, the overseeing of the battlefield by judges who isist that enemy soldiers captured in action get Miranda rights, the “Fairness Doctrine,” and the right of the government to restrict the Second Amendment if the regulation is “reasonable.” And who knows what else in the socialist agenda.
As far as the last goes, the recent Heller case didn’t really say how much regulation would be allowed, just that the right to bear arms was individual, but not absolute.
Justice Hillary Clinton. Think about it.
Wethal on July 5, 2008 at 7:48 AM
precent = precedent.
Wethal on July 5, 2008 at 7:56 AM
I’m inclined to agree with you. I’m reasonably sure that Obama hasn’t changed any of his “core beliefs”, nor will he.
I am, sure, however, that he is determined that the majority of Americans remain ignorant of what his core beliefs really are until after he takes the Oath of Office as President.
Senator Obama is highly intelligent- intelligent enough to realize (if a bit late) that if most Americans knew what he really wants to do on most subjects, they would vote for his opponent. This is because in most cases, his rhetoric about “the dysfunctional two-party system” translates into English as follows;
1. The Democratic Party’s problem is not that it’s “too far to the left”; in his opinion, its problem is that it isn’t radical enough.
2. As for the Republican Party, he resents the fact that it is even permitted to exist.
I am sure that, once he is in the Oval Office, he will do his utmost to correct these “problems”.
Whether the rest of us like it or not.
Just remember, folks- whatever he does to you will be for “the greater good”.
With him defining what “the greater good” is.
cheers
eon
eon on July 5, 2008 at 8:14 AM
Great Job Michelle. The truth will cost Mr. Obama because when he has to face it he does not know how to handle it. This is evident in his stage presence when the plug is pulled on the teleprompter. He becomes totally lost and detached from his message-indicates he does not believe in it that much.
MSGTAS on July 5, 2008 at 9:31 AM
‘Like cotton candy, all sugar and no substance. When you go to touch it, there’s nothing there except residue.’
Good one!
petefrt on July 5, 2008 at 9:56 AM
Wonder if Obama is a vegetarian too?
abcurtis on July 5, 2008 at 10:07 AM
You would expect any right-thinking person to be repelled by the style of imagery in these posters. They’re obviously so reminiscent of the Chinese and Russian communist imagery from the 20th C.
But clearly they speak to some relatively large segment of our population which is motivated by the hero-worship and cult-of-personality status surrounding Obama.
It’s odious and frightening to see it recreated here outside of a parody.
JiangxiDad on July 5, 2008 at 10:08 AM
One thing I think Michelle is right about – that “Change We Can Believe In” slogan is going to be an albatross come November. That campaign is now in serious jeopardy of becoming a parody of itself.
I still wish conservative commentators would make more of the fact that Obama quit his church in the middle of this campaign, something we have never seen before in American history. If he’ll do that, he’ll do anything to get elected and he can’t be believed about anything.
rockmom on July 5, 2008 at 10:53 AM
Thanks for posting this AP. It’s great to be reminded why I’m a member of Hotair.
Christine on July 5, 2008 at 2:35 PM
Exactly.
Obama is very much like Clinton who figured out what he believed in – after his people gave him the most recent focus group results.
wise_man on July 5, 2008 at 5:54 PM
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