Obama tacks right on abortion now?
posted at 6:55 pm on July 3, 2008 by Allahpundit
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Any issues left for him to “finesse”? Iraq, FISA, now this. No hot button is safe from the Messiah’s nuance.
Except for amnesty, of course. He’s still rock solid on that.
In an interview this week with “Relevant,” a Christian magazine, Obama said prohibitions on late-term abortions must contain “a strict, well defined exception for the health of the mother.”
Obama then added: “Now, I don’t think that ‘mental distress’ qualifies as the health of the mother. I think it has to be a serious physical issue that arises in pregnancy, where there are real, significant problems to the mother carrying that child to term.”…
The health care exception is crucial to abortion rights advocates and is considered a legal loophole by abortion opponents. By limiting the health exception to a “serious physical issue,” Obama set himself apart from other abortion rights proponents.
The official position of NARAL Pro-Choice America, the abortion rights group that endorsed Obama in May, states: “A health exception must also account for the mental health problems that may occur in pregnancy. Severe fetal anomalies, for example, can exact a tremendous emotional toll on a pregnant woman and her family.”
A spokesman from the National Right to Life is quoted as saying you can’t be pro-Roe if you think abortion shouldn’t be allowed for mental health reasons, but as I read this Obama’s only talking about late-term abortions precipitated by a medical emergency. If you want to get rid of mommy’s little inconvenience early on in the pregnancy, have at it. Does this look like a guy who’s iffy on Roe?
I eagerly await Doug Kmiec’s next 5,000-word hosanna to Obama spinning this very marginal show of restraint as some epochal remaking of the abortion debate in America. Exit question: Clear your mind for a moment, then let yourself absorb the constellation of centrist blasphemies uttered of late by His Holiness and how any one of them would have been poisonous during the primary. Now, tell me: What do you think Hillary’s thinking right now?
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Obama: Spinning faster than an Iranian centrifuge
faraway on July 3, 2008 at 6:57 PM
“GET THE BUMBLE BEE PANTS SUIT, I`M BACK IN THIS B@#*H!”
ThePrez on July 3, 2008 at 7:00 PM
Just Wow. I need some Dramamine.
rockmom on July 3, 2008 at 7:01 PM
Obama never secured a majority of pledged delegates, did he? I guess there’s no meaningful chance that the superdelegates would switch to supporting someone else now, but how far to the center, exactly, can Obama go before the convention without starting to hear rumbles of desertion among the leftiest of his lefty supporters?
Big S on July 3, 2008 at 7:03 PM
“Damn, Bill told me he’s the triangulation guru.”
“To change one’s mind, on everythig, several times, is being nuanced, flexible, erudite, open-mined.”
“This guy will be to the right of McCain by Nov. 04.”
Entelechy on July 3, 2008 at 7:03 PM
He will simply adopt all of McCain’s positions.
faraway on July 3, 2008 at 7:05 PM
Affirmative action. Well, he did waffle a bit on that at a debate in which he ws asked why his well-off upper-middle class daughters should get or even need any kind of advantage.
He um’ed and mumbled through an answer sort of saying maybe it should be for economically disadvantaged…
Wethal on July 3, 2008 at 7:06 PM
“I’m not going to punish them with a baby!”
It would be nice if he meant it
ToddonCapeCod on July 3, 2008 at 7:06 PM
The country will also know that someone who stands for everything, really stands for nothing.
Entelechy on July 3, 2008 at 7:07 PM
Then he is against Doe (not Roe, but Doe)? That is, a less broad definition of “health”.
Recall that Doe, in effect, overturned Roe’s limits on abortions by including emotional health as a reason to permit the abortion to occur.
IIRC, he’s never voted for such legislation.
SteveMG on July 3, 2008 at 7:08 PM
But the mental health part was decided by Doe v. Bolton. It’s really out of Obama’s hands unless he declares he’ll appoint Supreme Court justices who will overturn Doe. That’s not likely. NARAL would have a fit.
seanhackbarth on July 3, 2008 at 7:08 PM
The media will in the end realize that they are a bunch of duped irrelevant fools.
Entelechy on July 3, 2008 at 7:08 PM
Yep…and McCain won’t budge…Obama did learn something from Clenis after all…it’ll be Dole/Clinton all over again.
AUINSC on July 3, 2008 at 7:08 PM
Also school vouchers and charter schools. Probably say fine….as long as all the teachers are unionized.
Wethal on July 3, 2008 at 7:09 PM
Does he still oppose reviving and saving babies that survive an abortion? He was left of all the abortion groups on that issue by voting against a law that would require saving “born alive” babies.
Mallard T. Drake on July 3, 2008 at 7:10 PM
This reminds me a little of the Clinton blitzkrieg of ‘96. A furious outburst in early summer meant to take out Dole early. The Soros donks will forgive Obama because they know he is neutralizing McCain. He is making statements, not making promises. If the Donks keep Congress Mr. Obama can thumb his nose at everyone.
JonRoss on July 3, 2008 at 7:13 PM
Barack Obama to Planned Parenthood, July 17, 2007:
Funny he mentions freedom so many times in this speech, yet not once in his entire speech about patriotism this week did he say the word.
rockmom on July 3, 2008 at 7:13 PM
McCain is missing out. Obama has been on a vomit-inducing flip-flop rollercoaster. OUR candidate is not saying a word because he is busy cozying with Mexico.
jencab on July 3, 2008 at 7:15 PM
Obama’s problem is that we have since had the Kerry flip flopping campaign, so Obama is setting himself up for that kind of labelling in ads aimed at independents. And the news gets out so quickly on the internet that Obama has to go off message and “clarify” his position.
Wethal on July 3, 2008 at 7:17 PM
I bet the Constitutional Law Professor hasn’t read Doe v. Bolton since law school, and forgot about the “mental health” part of Doe.
Wethal on July 3, 2008 at 7:18 PM
Wait, can we still refer to him as the most liberal senator now?
Or is his tacking to the center getting him labelled a centrist flip flopper?
This is like trying to reconcile the fact that he’s a Muslim with the fact that he has a crazy pastor.
How do I reconcile these talking points? So confused.
e-pirate on July 3, 2008 at 7:20 PM
Wouldn’t it be great if the nutroots got angry enough to put up their own candidate? BO has thrown them under the bus and if they haven’t figured that out already, they will soon.
I know, it’s unlikely. Being too crazy to hold jobs, they couldn’t afford to finance an upset candidate. I can dream, can’t I?
landshark on July 3, 2008 at 7:21 PM
Remember this comment. It’s going to happen. If not here then sometime before November.
- The Cat
MirCat on July 3, 2008 at 7:25 PM
Those are usually called lies.
Chakra Hammer on July 3, 2008 at 7:26 PM
Well there is always some hope that he will “finesse” that too. With Juan, no damn way in Hell as he is joined at the hip with super glue to it.
MB4 on July 3, 2008 at 7:26 PM
spin.. lies.. same difference.
Chakra Hammer on July 3, 2008 at 7:26 PM
I can’t keep up with this guy. It seems that everything is random.
DAT60A3 on July 3, 2008 at 7:31 PM
We are about to run the global test — How dumb are Americans.
tarpon on July 3, 2008 at 7:32 PM
Seems to me that, with Obama’s more right-leaning nuance, he’s absolutely afraid of McCain. I’ve been saying…that McCain would bury him by the time the first couple debates were done. Obama is simply doing two things: One, he’s preparing his stance on key issues to be in a better debate situation, and Two, he knows darned well that the more leftists Democrats got him…narrowly…to the nomination, but they won’t be enough to deliver the White House.
Democrats seem very “forgiving” anyway when it comes to their own doing the flapjack hustle.
JetBoy on July 3, 2008 at 7:33 PM
Who will take a bet? Next thing he says is there is no global warming….
indythinker on July 3, 2008 at 7:39 PM
I can already hear McCain at the debates (if there ever are any).
Big S on July 3, 2008 at 7:40 PM
The only place for a guy who supports live birth abortions to go is right.
BadgerHawk on July 3, 2008 at 7:43 PM
She isn’t thinking anything. She’s doing rehab on her wrist injuries caused from constant stabbing of little Obama voodoo dolls for too long.
Seriously, she’s probably not a whole lot of fun to be around right now.
(insert “when is a good time to be around her” comment here)
Tman on July 3, 2008 at 7:44 PM
“Damn, he got me – good.”
Seixon on July 3, 2008 at 7:47 PM
His mesmerized supporters know he’s just lying like a Clinton to snooker the naive undecideds’ vote, and will glibly tack back HARD LEFT once he won (and that ain’t happenin’ Barry).
profitsbeard on July 3, 2008 at 7:59 PM
Well since the euphemism “late term abortion” actually means “partial birth abortion,” let it be re-stated that in this age of SOP caesarian section, no one was able to present any case of a “physical issue” that could make the stress of a vaginal delivery (followed by suctioning out the brain of a partially-born live newborn)a necessity — except to those who intend to kill a viable infant under cover of abortion laws, of course.
To hell with Hillary — where’s the nominally Republican candidate, old what’s-his-name?
Nichevo on July 3, 2008 at 8:02 PM
In partial birth abortion the child is partially delivered, killed, then delivered the rest of the way. I am sure it is better for the “health” of the mother to deliver the baby without pausing to kill the baby.
I know it is better for the health of the baby.
EJDolbow on July 3, 2008 at 8:11 PM
I HOPE Obama keeps CHANGEing rightward–at this rate, he might end up to the right of Reagan.
jgapinoy on July 3, 2008 at 8:12 PM
I don’t know if this has been posted but I saw this under the comments section for an AOL straw poll earlier this week.
As far as the topic, perhaps we should nickname him the tornado with all the spinning he does.
boomer on July 3, 2008 at 8:14 PM
All Hail the Messiahore!
dmann on July 3, 2008 at 8:21 PM
She’s thinking: This progressive wore a lefty clown costume all this time and now he takes it off to reveal a RINO wouldn’t had a chance in h$ll of getting the R nomination.
Dusty on July 3, 2008 at 8:22 PM
How about asking his position on the patial birth abortion of a child, if born, would be a US citizen, from an illegal alien………?
(head explodes)!!!
Seven Percent Solution on July 3, 2008 at 8:23 PM
He really does want to be the first black president and he’s willing to fool anyone to get it.
Dusty on July 3, 2008 at 8:25 PM
Let’s just get this moving to the center crap over with so it will go away before November. Great strategy. LOL
AnthonyK on July 3, 2008 at 8:27 PM
A man who trys to be all things to all people becomes nothing to everone!!!
thmcbb on July 3, 2008 at 8:28 PM
Explain this to me again. Is it ok with him now for his daughter to suction his grandchild out of the womb? or not?
Bicyea on July 3, 2008 at 8:39 PM
Has he given us a hint with all this equality talk as to why the women employees on his Senate staff seem not able to qualify as equal?
a capella on July 3, 2008 at 8:42 PM
I fear that this will all go down the memory hole.
AbaddonsReign on July 3, 2008 at 8:46 PM
If he would have started this crap in February he would have been more Reagan than Reagan by November.
carbon_footprint on July 3, 2008 at 8:53 PM
To paraphrase Sen. McCain’s quip to Romney, “Sen. Obama, you are the candidate of change. Hehehehe.”
CP on July 3, 2008 at 9:01 PM
Hahahahah,
Time to turn those guns the right way.
Good call CP
Squid Shark on July 3, 2008 at 9:15 PM
Why do I keep reading that this guy is going to win in a landslide ths November???
CCRWM on July 3, 2008 at 9:19 PM
“I’m so glad I opted for the Supremes instead of VP”
Limerick on July 3, 2008 at 9:29 PM
Two words…John McCain…
AUINSC on July 3, 2008 at 9:35 PM
Coming soon: Obama’s new campaign slogan – “Just like McCain, only younger.”
rockhead on July 3, 2008 at 9:52 PM
Because conservatives are not happy with McCain and the MSM is in bed with Homobama.
carbon_footprint on July 3, 2008 at 9:52 PM
Clarification: not a “buttseks homo” just suffering from ODS.
carbon_footprint on July 3, 2008 at 9:53 PM
I guess we will found out how many americans are willfully ignorant and uninformed when the votes are tallied, along with how many are still throwing a temper tantrum over McCain being the candidate and calling their no vote a strategy to fix the country later.
aikidoka on July 3, 2008 at 11:39 PM
AllahP,
You and I have had differences of opinion in the past. You have even taken offense at one or more of my comments.
But in reading this post, I realize how much I will rely upon your headlines and comments during the upcoming election.
From one evangelical to a conservative atheist: It’s a big tent. I love you, man.
Anton on July 3, 2008 at 11:43 PM
I just watched Alan Colmes repeatedly claim in response to comments about BO’s flip flops that McCain is worse because he wants to drill for oil now and he supports the Bush tax cuts. This is an intellectually vacuous argument but one the left will embrace wholeheartedly. Apparently McCain is a bigger flipflopper for changing 2 opinions (for the better) in line with his base constituency as opposed to BO throwing his values (alleged values – there is no evidence any actually exist) under the bus and counting on his base to support him anyway.
HawaiiLwyr on July 3, 2008 at 11:49 PM
Hey, AP – I called it!
Jaibones on July 4, 2008 at 12:24 AM
those that stand for nothing will fall for anything.
god help us in the coming years.
unseen on July 4, 2008 at 12:47 AM
No, he’s not turning Right…he just turned Left 3 times!!!
landlines on July 4, 2008 at 2:08 AM
Maybe Obama thought he heard someone say that he should be the first blank president.
landlines on July 4, 2008 at 2:12 AM
More on that on Inside Catholic
rightwingprof on July 4, 2008 at 7:12 AM
I don’t think the left wing of the Democratic Party is going to quietly stay under the bus with his pastor, grandmother etc…
sabbott on July 4, 2008 at 7:19 AM
It’s not a “temper tantrum”! Conservatives and Christians are sick and tired of being taken for granted by the Republican Party which will not support nor stand up for our issues and we are not going to support nor stand up for their liberal candidates any more! They believe they can win without us…find, go for it! We will sit on the side lines and watch rather than vote for someone that disagrees with us on every major issue and has spent his entire Senate career telling us he hates us!
How’s that McCain campaign thing working out for you Kool Aid drinkers anyway?
sabbott on July 4, 2008 at 7:23 AM
Anton –
Heh.
Jaibones on July 4, 2008 at 10:22 AM
Those Catholics for Obama nitwits are truly special. Pretzel-People.
Jaibones on July 4, 2008 at 10:35 AM
Ever notice how liberals/socialists preface everything they say with “I think” and “I believe”?
Dont they know a bloody thing? And as far as a pregnancy in this country with the medical technology we have, shouldnt that have been taken into account before she got pregnant? How about a tubal ligation?
abcurtis on July 4, 2008 at 11:02 AM
Amen, brother. Or sister, as the case may be.
abcurtis on July 4, 2008 at 11:03 AM
I checked out Jill Stanek’s website to see if she had anything on this. Stanek was a nurse in Illinois who testified before Congress regarding the Born Alive Infants Protection Act (she discovered babies were being aborted alive and left to die in the soiled utility room) and went toe to toe with Obama in Illinois.
She linked to this item from Life News:
New Report Indicates Voters Most Interested in Barack Obama’s Position on Abortion
Note what I put in bold.
INC on July 4, 2008 at 11:58 AM
The Democrats are in: “Moral Paralysis”
byteshredder on July 4, 2008 at 12:07 PM
And what is his position you ask? The answer is “yes.”
This guy wrote the kama sutra of political positions.
Mojave Mark on July 4, 2008 at 12:49 PM
Barack-track.
Now you see him.
Now you don’t.
maverick muse on July 4, 2008 at 2:08 PM
Flipper Obama in ‘08!
notta_dhimmi on July 4, 2008 at 3:21 PM
Don’t think that it is fear of Mccain that is inducing Obama to tack to the right. He knows Mccain is vulnerable with religious conservatives. He’s giving them a reason to not sit out this election – vote for him.
jeffNWV on July 4, 2008 at 10:21 PM
Will wonders never cease. Hussein Obama’s now giving Planned Murderhood gas pains.
byteshredder on July 4, 2008 at 11:47 PM
Barack Obama is a liar. He is not to be trusted. He has voted twice for infanticide, that is, once a baby is actually BORN, sticking it over into a corner to die if the mom decides she does not want the baby. He is a disgusting individual. God help our country if he becomes president.
Trtle2001 on July 5, 2008 at 1:16 PM
I don’t understand why they must kill a viable baby because the health of the mother is at stake. I never will understand infanticide, no matter how it is performed.
Christine on July 5, 2008 at 2:44 PM
In response to:
aikidoka on July 3, 2008 at 11:39 PM, sabbot says:
“It’s not a “temper tantrum”! Conservatives and Christians are sick and tired of being taken for granted by the Republican Party which will not support nor stand up for our issues and we are not going to support nor stand up for their liberal candidates any more! *They believe they can win without us*…find, go for it! We will sit on the side lines and watch rather than vote for someone that disagrees with us on every major issue and has spent his entire Senate career telling us he hates us!”
*No, I think that they’ve agreed to lose, a long time ago*.
That doesn’t stop me from railing at the idiots in the RNC.
I particularly dislike the way McCain gives us the bird while calling us ‘my friend(s)’, just like Juan Hernandez.
The slightly lesser of the two evils really applies this time and I will have to wait until the last minute to decide whether i will give my vote to a liberal Repub of the ruling elite.
Christine on July 5, 2008 at 2:58 PM
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