MannyT-vA on July 4, 2008 at 8:59 AM

You’re an idiot. You are actually suggesting death because some Americans exercise their rights with dissent and/or differing opinions.

You defeat the entire point of being an American. You are not a great American. France would not be good enough for you. I’m thinking the former USSR.

Exit question: More people regard voting as patriotic than risking one’s life on the battlefield? How’d that happen?

The 6% who said serving in the military isn’t patriotic at all should be packed up in a truck that is wired with explosives and driven off a cliff into the ocean immediately after detonation or given 1 way tickets to Iran or France. I would personally take the detonation option if I was them since the other one is just cruel and unusual punishment.

I’d only be patriotic if I had the stickers and pins to prove it. Also why do they call them lapel pins when they wear the flag on their sleeve?

How many of you doofuses are wearing a flag lapel pin right now?

The Race Card on July 3, 2008 at 6:22 PM

I am pretty sure I have “Made in China” on my shoes. Does that count?

More people regard voting as patriotic than risking one’s life on the battlefield? How’d that happen?

That’s easy. People tend to be self-centered and a whole lot more people vote than risk their life on the battlefield these days or even know someone close who does.

Gallup: 28% say wearing flag pin shows a “great deal” of patriotism

Wearing a flag pin shows that you know how to put a pin on or know someone who does. To say that it shows a great deal of patriotism makes about as much sense as saying that using carbon offsets shows that someone is a great environmentalist.

But they should also put a microphone near each candidate and during the campaign if a candidate does not sing the national anthem at least 14 db loud then he is immediately disqualified because he obviously does not love America.

Utinam coniurati te inforo interficiant! Caput vacans

Translation?

More importantly, 78% of people think that voting shows a great deal of patriotism, but voter participation is, what, 30% or less?

lorien1973 on July 3, 2008 at 3:32 PM

Subtract the under-18 population. I’m guessing its more like 78% of eligible voters.

Exit question: More people regard voting as patriotic than risking one’s life on the battlefield? How’d that happen?

Democracy has become a fetish, a cure-all for the ills of every society on the planet.

They’re stupid and you’re a fool to believe they carry ANY patriotic value.

This diversion was the single dumbest issue I have ever heard taken up on the national political front. Sad. Sad. Sad.

How many of you doofuses are wearing a flag lapel pin right now?

Seriously, how long will this pin/ribbon/magnet on the car thing go on?

Exit question: More people regard voting as patriotic than risking one’s life on the battlefield? How’d that happen?

It goes along with the whole psychosis that society has seemed to embrace that America isn’t good and defending it is just disgusting which is why these AWOL wimps who run to canada get the “awww poor thing” status among them. While of course, voting lets them get their opinion in..so I am not surprised at all that there is a switch. Disgusting isn’t it? I think it’s just part of the push for the one world gov’t starting with not defining our borders that our forefathers fought so hard for. I hear often, see what france thinks of us? I say, who the hell cares what france thinks of us!

Hening on July 3, 2008 at 3:38 PM

And I see someone whom is a self proclaimed elitest who think that he/she is better then all!

upinak on July 3, 2008 at 3:45 PM

Wow, it was only a joke. Simmer down…..I’m a big Allahpundit fan.

Utinam coniurati te inforo interficiant! Caput vacans

Do you mean, “Utinam coniurati te in foro interficiant” ?

FUTUE TE ET IPSUM CABALLUM, DUDE

Snake307 on July 3, 2008 at 4:00 PM

Make sure your ACLU membership is updated and paid in full….

SAN FRANCISCO – The FBI has withdrawn an unconstitutional national security letter (NSL) issued to the Internet Archive after a legal challenge from the American Civil Liberties Union and the Electronic Frontier Foundation (EFF). As the result of a settlement agreement, the FBI withdrew the NSL and agreed to the unsealing of the case, finally allowing the Archive’s founder to speak out for the first time about his battle against the record demand.

So why was Hening an “elitest” for pointing out bad grammar?

Grow Fins on July 3, 2008 at 4:03 PM

What’s the point of pointing it out? Allah isn’t going to change it unless it a totally mis-spelled word. And even then, they are to busy with stories to change it right away.

It makes no sense. Give the guys a break! We are here for our enjoyment! This is what they get paid for. And no matter how good you are concerning your employment, people screw up. Big deal.. move on.

Besides the City education thing was just wrong and annoying. Good grief.

This day and age, I honestly couldn’t give two hills of beans how people say or do things.

So why was Hening an “elitest” for pointing out bad grammar?

It’s even more interesting that equal or greater numbers consider protesting policies you oppose to be patriotic as those who think something silly like wearing a flag pin is.

Now, as a conservative, I support the nation, but I don’t wear a flag pin, and I don’t have a flag sticker on my car. My patriotism was proven during the nine years I served in the Army. I don’t need to demonstrate it for anyone ever again.

The flag pin doesn’t mean the person wearing it is a patriot. Let’s say politician “A” is wearing a flag pin. He supports and announces that as a true patriot, he will decide that citizens in the country do not have a right to an attorney regarding a national security investigation.

Politician “A” may be patriotic, however he is also a person who intends to violate the principals of this nation. Specifically the right to an attorney, and the right to due process for citizens. No, I’m not talking about Club Gitmo. I’m talking about the National Security letters which the FBI can present you with, demanding information, and threatening sanctions including arrest for calling anyone, including your attorney.

Personally, I’ve always dreamed of being given that letter. That way I could call my attorney, and be arrested. Then I would enjoy watching the FBI try to explain to a Judge that while I was being arrested for calling an attorney, they very carefully advised me of my rights to call an attorney.

This aspect of the PATRIOT ACT is unconstitutional, obviously and flagrantly. Yet, we Conservatives don’t throw up our hands in disgust when we see this proposal from the Government. Why is that?

The Presence of a flag pin on a lapel did not guarantee that the act just described is a Patriotic Act. Wrapping the flag around a wrong action doesn’t make the action right.

There’s a lot in the PATRIOT ACT I agree with. I don’t agree with it all, and I think those National Security Letters should be written out of the bloody thing.

Grow Fins on July 3, 2008 at 3:52 PM

This day and age, I honestly couldn’t give two hills of beans how people say or do things.

No one is perfect, no one has the perfect edumacation! So with that said, and the fact you either can’t understand latin or just didn’t get the damn joke, Poo on you! Allah does a fine job… whoopty doo if He or Ed have a momentary lapse of DUH when writing. Grow up ffs!

I just don’t care for grammer nazi’s. If that is a problem for you I would suggest you find something else to quibble about.

Are we going to see Obama in an Uncle Sam costume now? If 28% are for pins, Id say a full Uncle Sam costume has to be worth at least double that.

Chuck Schick on July 3, 2008 at 3:43 PM

That’s funny. I guess I’m not very patriotic. I don’t even where a flag pin.

I guess I missed all the stink about the lapel pin because I still don’t get its importance. Now taking off your pins and ribbons and throwing them away in demonstration..that would be unpatriotic. Nobody would do that and run for president!

And I see someone whom is a self proclaimed elitest

Guess accurate grammar and spelling are the province of “elites” now. Halp Us Upineck – We 8 Fancy Wurds.