Wahhabit

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US gets a hunting license in Pakistan?

TAKE NO PRISONERS!

Civilized nations can control/police what is inside their claimed borders IF NOT then those territories should not be considered part of their borders.

C-Low on July 2, 2008 at 9:57 AM

The U.S. does not do a particularly super-hot job of control[ing]/polic[ing] its southern border. I am not, however, prepared to write if off and no longer claim it.

Your point about “…groups attacking neighbors and other nations from the safety of the host nation has to be ended” is right on the money, though. You did not go back quite far enough in your historical recitation, though: this was a lesson that I thought we had learned from Korea and Viet Nam. Give the enemy a sanctuary and you cannot defeat him. Failing to heed that is why we still have troops in Korea. That is what Nixon’s “secret” Cambodian and Laos bombings were all about. Yet, we have allowed that very circumstance to develop, and with a much more dangerous enemy: the Viet Minh were not seeking to export their revolution.

If Pakistan cuts off the supply routes, our troops in Afghanistan become isolated sitting ducks.

Steve Z on July 2, 2008 at 10:54 AM

Pakistan would not cut our supply routes. They are not strong enough to do so, the operations would be too remote for them to sustain, and the graft for goods passage is far too lucrative to interrupt. Harrass, yes. Cut, no.

Shhh. We’re hunting this Wahhabit.

Just wrong, Ed. Funny, but wrong.

Money

As much as it might please some to just march into Pakistan and be done with Al Qaeda (as Barack Obama said he would do) this little kabuki-dance with Pakistan is about the best we can do realistically. Not so much because of Pakistan’s nukes, but also because all the supply routes for our troops in Afghanistan run through (or over) Pakistan. If Pakistan cuts off the supply routes, our troops in Afghanistan become isolated sitting ducks.

Pakistan is not really our friend, but their government is willing to look the other way sometimes–which is better than having a nuclear-armed enemy.

If a Predator drone took out OBL on the opening day of the Democrat Convention in Denver, would the MSM file a report on his demise?

Killing OBL at this point in the game will get a huge *whatevs* response from most in the US especially from the left side and their MSM propaganda machine will convince citizens in the middle of the same.

Too little too late. OBL is a Lose/Lose for the President.

Swinehound on July 2, 2008 at 10:05 AM

Some of us agree. I’m of the opinion that trying to kill UBL now, actually has lower immediate strategic importance than pre-empting Iran’s nuclear weaponry.

Wahhabit season!

Duck!!!!

Don’t you mean “Duck Season???”

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Silly Wahhabit, your trix killed our kids.

C-Low on July 2, 2008 at 9:57 AM

Well said.

Too little too late. OBL is a Lose/Lose for the President.

NO NO NO,, what we need to drive home both to Pakistan and the rest of the world is this. Civilized nations can control/police what is inside their claimed borders IF NOT then those territories should not be considered part of their borders.

In the west we have radicals just like every nation on earth does but we do not let them go around starting wars by attacking other nations. If such a group did they would be rounded up and arrested by our own police/FBI.

The idiocy of allowing the Arab world to set the president that nations can be immune of responsibility for proxy groups attacking neighbors and other nations from the safety of the host nation has to be ended. Palestine, Hamas, Afghanistan pre 01′, Iraq pre 03′, Iran since 79′, Pakistan since early 80s’, Syria since 03′, Lebanon.

The west needs to find their balls.

Lib response:

*crickets chirping*

Shhh. We’re hunting this Wahhabit.

What did Frodo and Sam ever do to you?

/sarc

OR they could have even gone to nuclear war with India and that certianly wasnt in our best interest.

Pakistan could not deliver the nuclear weapons to America. Their nuclear arsenal is not a threat to us. That should not be a reason for us not to take care of our business there.

It seems like Musharraf hasn’t ever done anything to be upset about. There isn’t a politician in America that is as clean as you people seem to think Musharraf is. It is amazing to me that you people have been so fooled. Of course all you have to do is bastardize a verb (to evangelize) into a noun (evangelical) and most of the readers think it is a new group of people so I shouldn’t be surprised.

Shhh. We’re hunting this Wahhabit.

Heh…”be vewy, vewy quiet!”

But Mushariff has destablized himself with his actions.

The best we can do is strike while we can.

Let’s be sure to give them more money for anti-aircraft guns. . . after all, Al Qaeda has such a formidable air force.

This has been the SOP in Pakistan for several years. It isn’t because Musharraf is so nice. It is because this is what we told him we were going to do. We strike in Pakistan, Musharraf says how outraged he is but then he does nothing. Of course, he couldn’t do anything if he wanted to fight back. It’s sort of like us saying if you are our enemy, we will kill you, but if you are our friend, we’ll give you money. What would you say? It doesn’t make Musharraf a great ally to do what everyone else would do – take the money instead of getting killed. This is how Islam is spread and maintained.

The Pentagon wanted to fight Al Qaeda in Pakistan just like they fought Russia. They give Pakistan money and tell them to fight. It didn’t work, it won’t work, it is a stupid idea.

America needs to fight its own battles and we wouldn’t drag it out so long. America should have taken the initiative in Tora Bora instead of allowing Pakistan AND MUSHARRAF to have control over sealing the Pakistani side of Tora Bora. If the USA had taken control of Tora Bora way back when, we would have killed Bin Laden then and been done.

The pentagon strategy under Bush has been disastrous. I support the military. I support the wars, but how they were carried out has been shameful. Musharraf and Pakistan have made us look like the paper tiger that they said we were. The whole world (especially Iran) is laughing at us because of how we handled the Taliban and Al Qaeda in Pakistan.

And all we want to do is talk about what a great guy and wonderful ally Musharraf is. Why don’t we break him off a little more somethin somethin for his trouble. Maybe a billion dollars will ease his pain. Taxpayers will be none the wiser.