Pew poll: 50% support drilling in ANWR, eight-point increase since February

posted at 6:45 pm on July 2, 2008 by Allahpundit

Confirmation at last that the “pristine” wilderness is looking a lot less pristine these days than it used to. Note that the swing towards expanded exploration in general is even more dramatic, to the point of a near-majority. Couple that with 52% of the public laughing at Harry Reid’s hyperventilation about sickness from oil and coal and Maverick’s got a gimme. Assuming, of course, he’s not too stupid to take it.

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Follow the first link up top and scroll down to see which two groups have swung most sharply towards increased exploration since February. Exit question: How likely is this issue to shift votes, really? If gas prices get much worse, Obama will simply do what Obama does and flip-flop merrily towards the middle.


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Smiles…. SMILES A LOT!

I may be going up to ANWR soon (depending on agreement)… should I get some pictures for you all?

upinak on July 2, 2008 at 6:53 PM

Drill now!

The big question is whether or not we’ll let Americans work the new operations or if those jobs will be deemed “jobs Americans just won’t do”…

Yes upinak, pictures, please!

NTWR on July 2, 2008 at 6:55 PM

The higher prices go the more people will want to drill. You actaully wonder how stupid people can be to not see that the Democrats have their hands around America’s throat and are trying their best to choke off the energy supply.

Democrats seek power to deny the rest of us freedom and liberty. Obama is the ultimate incarnation of that approach to control, and ultimately tyranny. At least Bush only wanted your library card.

tarpon on July 2, 2008 at 6:57 PM

Exit question: How likely is this issue to shift votes, really? If gas prices get much worse, Obama will simply do what Obama does and flip-flop merrily towards the middle.

Ugh Allah… do you think it would make a shred of difference? You still have the Cave Greenie’s fighting all the way.

How about this Exit Question: If Obamaessiah flips… do you think that the Greenies will flop out and not vote at all?

upinak on July 2, 2008 at 6:57 PM

Why are the numbers in favor so low?

Do people think the country can stand energy costs this high for much longer without dangerous (and even more expensive to repair than to prevent) national security damage being done to America (through airlines, fishing fleets, trucking companies, etc., etc. going belly up) and her allies?

profitsbeard on July 2, 2008 at 7:00 PM

I may be going up to ANWR soon (depending on agreement)… should I get some pictures for you all?

upinak on July 2, 2008 at 6:53 PM

I’d rather you got us oil.

TexasDan on July 2, 2008 at 7:01 PM

If McCain came out and said……

“My friends, time for some straight talk. We are not only going to “Drill Now”, but every American will get a share of the profit from the sale of the oil to the rest of the world….”

Can you imagine the reaction?

Seven Percent Solution on July 2, 2008 at 7:01 PM

Yes upinak, pictures, please!

NTWR on July 2, 2008 at 6:55 PM

you know I have some from the last time I went up. Let me see where and which CD/DVD I stuck them on and put them up on Flicker.

Only thing is I think took pictures of Pingo’s mostly. google that.

upinak on July 2, 2008 at 7:01 PM

upinak on July 2, 2008 at 6:57 PM

They’ll vote. Dems are just going to have to come to terms with the fact that the candidate they nominated isn’t the demigod they thought he was.

jimmy the notable on July 2, 2008 at 7:01 PM

I’d rather you got us oil.

TexasDan on July 2, 2008 at 7:01 PM

Dan I can only do so much. If I do anymore I may as well stick my head up the butt’s of the Senators!

And honestly, methane gas is not all it is cracked up to be.

upinak on July 2, 2008 at 7:03 PM

Perhaps a Vice President Palin could help him change his mind…

It's Vintage, Duh on July 2, 2008 at 7:04 PM

There goes environmentalism.

Not with a bang, but a whimper
whine.

misterpeasea on July 2, 2008 at 7:05 PM

only 50%??? I think we should turn off the power that heats these liberal wackos homes this winter, since they don’t want us to drill.

right4life on July 2, 2008 at 7:07 PM

Drill already, dammit!!!

As for Dingy whining about sickness and Hitlerian logic by eeeevillll energy companies, the simplest mark of how environmentally efficient these industries have become over the last 20 years is that almost no one is complaining about acid rain and particulate emissions in the US anymore.

Compare this result to that of China, where the air is so polluted in major cities from coal-fired power plants that have had their scrubbers deliberately disconnected after commissioning (and yes, I know this practice is done from a Bechtel executive who worked on power station projects in China over the last few years; the practice is rampant – they disconnect the pollution scrubbing equipment after commissioning to reduce their operating costs).

In countries like the US and other first world nations, where citizens have the right to seek redress under law against companies that allow airborne emissions of CO (Carbon Monoxide), NOX (Oxides of Nitrogen), HC (unburned hydrocarbons), F (Fluorine), S (Sulphur), SO2 (Sulfur Dioxide), and H2S (Hydrogen Sulfide), (to name a few) choosing to deliberately disconnect scrubbing equipment would lead to plant shutdowns and prison time for anyone involved.

By comparison, the only “pollutant” anyone is whining about anymore in the US from coal and oil fired power plants is CO2, which has no effect on the public health.

We’ve come a long way in the first world, and instead of sitting on our a$$ses, we should be proud of our achievements and push forward.

So Drill already!!!

Wanderlust on July 2, 2008 at 7:09 PM

60% by Sept., 65-70% by Nov.
Get the big flipper ready…Obama is getting ready to FLIP

right2bright on July 2, 2008 at 7:11 PM

Heh, just wait ’til folks get their heating bills this winter. Soon almost all but the nutroots, say 85% of people, will support drilling in ANWR.

Dems are on the losing side of this issue, big time. Maybe bigger time than their position on the gun control issue.

The left may be strategizing to cause our economy as much hardship as possible, thinking voters will take out their angst on the GOP. But tell ya what, voters aren’t as stupid as they hope, and the greater the economic hardship they inflict, the more surely their obstructionist, Luddite NO-ENERGY position is a loser for the left.

petefrt on July 2, 2008 at 7:11 PM

In a different ANWR thread I asked a ? but the discussion was already petering out, so here goes 2nd try…

Is the oil deposit near the periphery of ANWR? Could we drill, maybe at an angle, from just outside the actual boundary and reach the oil, and circumvent this whole obstacle?

innominatus on July 2, 2008 at 7:12 PM

petefrt on July 2, 2008 at 7:11 PM

I give it till Jan. at the latest.

Then watch as the elections go towards Republicans or anyone who says Drill.

But I will be in training so I won’t be able to watch like I would like during that time.

upinak on July 2, 2008 at 7:14 PM

innominatus on July 2, 2008 at 7:12 PM

yes you could drill, BUT it would be a federal and serious crime to take from a pool of oil that is on federal land. Or it already would have been done.

When I am talking serious, I am talking BILLIONS or TRILLIONS of dollars, people rotting in jail, the fact that they did it without anyone knowning, since there are stipulations of inspectors and so on. And the fact that the closest areas that are even partially developed, are still about 20 miles away. Kind of a long arm to drill. But that is just the top of ANWR. Unknown as of the rest of it and what lies beneath.

upinak on July 2, 2008 at 7:17 PM

upinak on July 2, 2008 at 7:17 PM

Thanks. ANWR is pretty much an enigma to most of us in the lower 48. I wasn’t proposing that we “steal” the oil of the federal lands, I was just hoping that it might be feasible to reach the oil without upsetting the caribou-smoochers. Makes sense that it would have already happened if it were that simple.

innominatus on July 2, 2008 at 7:23 PM

Ya’ll can go to anwr.org and find pictures of this G-d-forsaken ice tundra. They have all sorts of good info.

Over in the menu on the right…click on pictures. 48 coastal plain in summer/winter. Very eye-opening.

McCain says it’s like the Grand Canyon?
Sure. Right, John, They’re IDENTICAL.
Palin needs to give him the grand tour ASAP.

Janna on July 2, 2008 at 7:23 PM

Why are the numbers in favor so low?

profitsbeard on July 2, 2008 at 7:00 PM

Because the poll asks about “drilling in… wildlife refuge.”

Basically, the pollsters asked if you’d be willing to shoot Bambi’s mother before Bambi’s eyes if it would get you a cheaper fill-up – and 50% said yes.

Now, imagine if the poll question had been phrased “drilling in a small patch of godforsaken wasteland.”

CK MacLeod on July 2, 2008 at 7:24 PM

Are you short-sighted idiots really willing to drill in the Grand Canyon just to make gas a little cheaper?

I’m glad John McCain is willing to stand up against this kind of lunacy.

Protect our pristine wilderness, John McCain!

MCCAIN ’08: IT’S FOR THE CARIBOU!

misterpeasea on July 2, 2008 at 7:25 PM

Seven Percent Solution on July 2, 2008 at 7:01 PM

You will get a share of the profits, by way of lower gas prices.

Chakra Hammer on July 2, 2008 at 7:27 PM

innominatus on July 2, 2008 at 7:23 PM

Those caribou butt kissing rejects from hell are worse then a fly hugging caribou poop!

They have no clue what it is like up htere. The caribou got smart (which is totally odd) and figured out that being next to these BAD pipelines were their saving grace. They don’t get shot at and can be left alone even to calf. Bears know it as well. North Slope Grizzlies go up to feed off the whale hunts after the native are finished with the whale. Polar Bears are around too. We are not allowed to bother any of them but these animals also know to stay away when they hear the roar of a dozer or some type of construction vehicle or even the huge coli tubing units… and man are they HUGE!

But drilling in ANWR is going to need camps, and pipelines. There are holes there… just exploration wells, but the oil is there even if they guesstimate what the pools hold.

upinak on July 2, 2008 at 7:28 PM

I may be going up to ANWR soon (depending on agreement)… should I get some pictures for you all?

upinak on July 2, 2008 at 6:53 PM

Sure, just make sure to put the date on the pictures..

Why didn’t you go during the winter? LOL

Chakra Hammer on July 2, 2008 at 7:29 PM

MCCAIN ‘08: IT’S FOR THE CARIBOU!

misterpeasea on July 2, 2008 at 7:25 PM

I think Mccain would like the caribou too. In a sausage form for breakfast!

upinak on July 2, 2008 at 7:29 PM

Chakra Hammer on July 2, 2008 at 7:29 PM

You are smoking crack!

I hate going up to the slope in the winter. Catagory 3 blizzards in a Bus to one of the drill sites. Are you freaking KIDDING ME!

As I enjoy the food, the people who work up there and looking at the animals as much as anyone else. I like my little office job here in the city.

upinak on July 2, 2008 at 7:31 PM

upinak on July 2, 2008 at 7:31 PM

Well if people want to get the full effect ANWR from the pictures..

then they need to see it in the winter time..

Chakra Hammer on July 2, 2008 at 7:37 PM

Why are the numbers so low? This was a Pew poll. Gallup and Rasmussen had pro-drilling numbers in the 60′s.

McCain needs to take a listening tour (to ANWR) with Sarah Palin, and some hip boots to avoid sinking into all the puddles up there. Then he needs to include SHALE OIL (about 50 ANWRs of oil, but harder to get) in his Lexington Project, and the RNC needs to get every GOP Rep. and challenger to Dem-held seats to pledge to vote for promoting shale oil, offshore drilling and drilling in ANWR. In 1994 they had a Contract With America–in 2008 it needs to be Energy From America For America, and say hello to President McCain and House Speaker Boehner.

Oh, by the way, nobody is proposing drilling in the Grand Canyon. It’s a dry hole, except for a little water.

Steve Z on July 2, 2008 at 7:38 PM

52%? When and if crude hits the projected $200 a barrel, with gas at $7.50, the majority will be near 90%. What’s more they will be up there on their hands and knees digging it out with their bare hands.

Dem politicians have no idea what is coming as they cavalierly muse that we can’t drill our way out of this problem and higher fuel prices are a god send as it changes our behavior. As Harry Reid said, we’ll be less sick now.

I have a feeling when the drilling starts, and it will, they might be starting with his head.

patrick neid on July 2, 2008 at 7:43 PM

Chakra Hammer on July 2, 2008 at 7:37 PM

All they have to do is look at other areas of the North Slope. Same scene…. doesn’t change much.

upinak on July 2, 2008 at 7:47 PM

We’re doing what the Dems in Congress want. We’re begging them to let us have our own energy, and they have the power over our most important commodity. But it’s going to turn ugly sooner than they thought, and it’s going to turn from begging and pleading to an overwhelming demand. They’ll lose eventually, but not until after they’ve swept the elections. The sleeping giant is waking up too late.

aero on July 2, 2008 at 7:48 PM

Reality smacks Liberals in the face. Must be a bitch living in a fantasy world most of your life. These fools were probably waiting for electric or hydrogen powered cars to be let out of the lock up lots by the car manufacturers.

Now that GM is on the verge of bankruptcy will the asshats at the UAW endorse McCain?

DerKrieger on July 2, 2008 at 7:50 PM

Upinak, pictures please!

While your at it e-mail a couple to McLame.

Me thinks McDumbo needs a visit from either Dick Cheney or all of us like he got on immigration!

Well maybe bigger, longer, louder than immigration hes’ still trying to weasel on that one.

LOUDER PLEASE! Drill here, drill now, drill often! Or face the rath of the citizens when the economy tanks, car makers tank, airlines shut down and no-one can afford to drive, eat or heat their homes.

dhunter on July 2, 2008 at 7:54 PM

Give me a couple days to come up with some of the pictures. I will get them up when I can. Maybe I will just send them to Allah or Ed, they can use them.

upinak on July 2, 2008 at 7:59 PM

anwr.org

Pictures
Maps
Petition
News releases
All sorts of interesting info.

Janna on July 2, 2008 at 8:01 PM

Janna on July 2, 2008 at 8:01 PM

Janna, some people would like to see other photos then what a professional photographer does.

http://www.anwr.org is a great sight but sometimes people want to see it from a real person. If you catch my snow drift.

upinak on July 2, 2008 at 8:03 PM

upinak,
Sorry, I didn’t mean to step on your toes.

The site just really opened MY eyes to the facts.

Janna on July 2, 2008 at 8:09 PM

upinak,
Sorry, I didn’t mean to step on your toes.

The site just really opened MY eyes to the facts.

Janna on July 2, 2008 at 8:09 PM

No worries!

But people ask, might as well show them. Right?!

I have been there a few times. Boring as hell, smelly, misquito and bot fly heaven. But it also is not just a tundra. It is a arctic flood plane… you should see it when Break Up (spring up here) happens. Talk about a muddy and God forsaken mess. You never want to wear your good jeans or shoes/boots when that is going on.

upinak on July 2, 2008 at 8:12 PM

Now off to kill some 3D animals with my Arrows!

Have a great day or night wherever you all are!

:)

upinak on July 2, 2008 at 8:13 PM

upinak,
Thats a girl, why not some real ones? no season open right now or freezer full?

dhunter on July 2, 2008 at 8:22 PM

Let’s see… $144 is the square of $12, the cost of a barrel of oil 10 years ago.
So.. oil is up 1100% in only 10 years, right around when Clinton vetoed drilling in ANWR.
We oilguys can only say, “Thanks, BJ”!

TexasJew on July 2, 2008 at 8:27 PM

Maybe Alaska should suseede from the union, become a country of its own, drill, sell and become another Saudi Arabia only a little colder.

dhunter on July 2, 2008 at 8:33 PM

@ TexasJew on July 2, 2008 at 8:27 PM

Oh come on. ANWR has 3 years of oil max in it, it would have done jack-s*&t to quell the current prices.

muyoso on July 2, 2008 at 8:51 PM

Gotta say it is long past time. Not that the other oil producing countrys of the world mind selling you folks oil, but it is the hight of hypocrisy to ask other countrys to do what your own congress is unwilling to let you do.

Put up or shut up time. The Alberta oil sands can keep you in oil for decades, but ya really need to look to your own devices people.

Jim708 on July 2, 2008 at 9:18 PM

Worth a look-see: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tWZ_4EXeyaA

onlineanalyst on July 2, 2008 at 9:36 PM

If gas prices get much worse, Obama will simply do what Obama does and flip-flop merrily towards the middle.

And in so doing, will actually out-flank McCain on the right as well…game over…because, as we all know, once John decides on something, like being a ‘a friend of Gaia’. nothing, including science or political pressure or other facts will alter him from his course.

AUINSC on July 2, 2008 at 10:26 PM

50% support drilling in ANWR

So may I “assume” that the other 50% have sworn to give up using oil products?

MB4 on July 2, 2008 at 11:22 PM

Oh come on. ANWR has 3 years of oil max in it, it would have done jack-s*&t to quell the current prices.

muyoso on July 2, 2008 at 8:51 PM

And you know this, how?

Johan Klaus on July 2, 2008 at 11:45 PM

The ANWR’s 2 million b/d would roughly equal the amount the United States imports from Saudi Arabia and Kuwait combined — no small step toward reducing our import dependence.

Johan Klaus on July 3, 2008 at 12:01 AM

McCain won’t flip on this, don’t worry. He’ll just call those that do people who hate the environment and declare he’s against it.

Snake307 on July 3, 2008 at 12:51 AM

verbage alert!
We need to stop calling this thing “ANWR” like it is some special place like Yellowstone.
It is Alaska, it is barren, it is uninhabitable…it is the Arctic.

How about this poll question “should we drill in government-owned land in the Alaska, which is favored by teh Alaskan Citizens?”

Or: “Should Washington prohibit drilling in Alaska, in places that are favored by the Alaskan citizens…and which will produce massive amounts of oil for Americans?”

Dpet on July 3, 2008 at 8:10 AM

McAmnesty shall not support drilling in this pristine wilderness! His buddies at the NYT and WPost would be disappointed in him if he did…

sabbott on July 3, 2008 at 8:48 AM

Oh come on. ANWR has 3 years of oil max in it, it would have done jack-s*&t to quell the current prices.

muyoso on July 2, 2008 at 8:51 PM

.
The current estimates are that ANWR has enough oil to supply 3% of the current US daily use for 20 years or so, and those estimates were made when we were getting a lower recovery rate, in case you are interested in facts.

Think_b4_speaking on July 3, 2008 at 9:14 AM

Oh come on. ANWR has 3 years of oil max in it, it would have done jack-s*&t to quell the current prices.

muyoso on July 2, 2008 at 8:51 PM

And you know this, how?

Johan Klaus on July 2, 2008 at 11:45 PM

Huffington told him so…

right2bright on July 3, 2008 at 9:50 AM

The reason for drilling in ANWR is NOT TO LOWER THE PRICE OF OIL per se. If that were to actually happen it would be a bonus. The reason to drill is to contribute to our own domestic supply of oil and consequently, over the life time of these wells, save several trillions of dollars on our balance of trade deficit. Every year for the last 35 years we have shipped hundreds of billions of dollars overseas that could have stayed and been used here had we developed our own oil supplies, refineries and attendant jobs. In many cases these dollars have led to the rise of countries which want to take us down. Whabbism in Saudi Arabia and the nutjobs in Iran come to mind. Our energy policy is insanity. Even the Chinese are scratching their heads. Most of the rest of the world thinks we are idiots. With normal effort we have enough supply to be virtually independent. Instead, on a daily basis, we risk complete economic collapse as 40% of the world’s crude passes in two straits–Hormuz and Malacca.

http://blog.wired.com/wiredscience/2008/07/five-vulnerable.html

This stupid straw man that the Dems have successfully used, “we can’t drill our way out of this problem” is directed at the double digit IQers in their party. Now because of these same voting idiots we may be facing $170-$200 crude with gas prices of $6.50-$7.50 .

If crude goes higher this is going to be an interesting year coming.

patrick neid on July 3, 2008 at 10:24 AM

Dpet on July 3, 2008 at 8:10 AM

I am an Alaskan and we call it ANWR. Get over it.

patrick neid on July 3, 2008 at 10:24 AM

I want you to show me how much oil has been sent out of this country! I want some viable link and I want it NOT to be via a blog. Because I am pretty sure that your “millions” is actually about 100 thousand a year sent to China.

upinak on July 3, 2008 at 11:06 AM

Oh come on. ANWR has 3 years of oil max in it, it would have done jack-s*&t to quell the current prices.

muyoso on July 2, 2008 at 8:51 PM

Democratic and McCain campaigns talking points…

sabbott on July 3, 2008 at 3:06 PM

You are absolutely correct, Wanderlust.

Back in 1999, I lived in Wuhan, China for five months teaching English. When I flew back to the U.S., I stopped and stared and marveled at the amazingly clean, clear blue sky in Los Angeles.

The skies in Chinese cites are basically brown.

Theophile on July 3, 2008 at 7:08 PM

upinak,

I’m scratching my head trying to figure out this statement you made in response to my post:

I want you to show me how much oil has been sent out of this country! I want some viable link and I want it NOT to be via a blog. Because I am pretty sure that your “millions” is actually about 100 thousand a year sent to China.

upinak on July 3, 2008 at 11:06 AM

I never suggested we are sending oil to anyone. We are sending cash overseas to buy oil, some of which ends up in the wrong hands. My comment about the Chinese was regards their comments about the US wasting money on overseas oil when we already have our own. The world thinks we are nuts. Most countries have zero oil or coal and we basically have the most yet we have to import the same because we hug trees all day.

And to complete the circle jerk our trade balance goes negative and the dollar goes down forcing the price we pay for crude to go up. Stupid is as stupid does.

My guess is you are trying to read to quick. :)

patrick neid on July 3, 2008 at 10:46 PM