Team McCain Conference Call: Lindsey Graham, Orson Swindle on Wesley Clark

posted at 11:45 am on July 1, 2008 by Ed Morrissey

John McCain’s campaign continues its pushback against Wes Clark’s comments regarding McCain’s fitness for the presidency.  They scheduled a press conference call to address Clark’s continuing criticisms.

Lindsey Graham started off by asserting that the primary consideration for a nation in two wars should be to choose the candidate most ready to be Commander in Chief.  Graham says that McCain is the best-qualified candidate for this position since Eisenhower.  “Senator McCain has walked in the shoes of the military,” Graham stated, and says McCain understands the language and the culture.  “Nobody expects John to be elected because he was a POW,” Graham says.  “Quite frankly, he has the courage of his convictions.”  Graham underscored McCain’s understanding of military strategy and history, which led him to call for the counterinsurgency strategy now in place three years before it got adopted.

Yesterday, the Obama campaign issued a weak rebuke, not even bothering to mention Clark by name.  When Clark reiterated his criticisms, the Obama campaign fell silent, Graham noted.

Next, LTC Orson Swindle took the microphone, and noted that a “similar kind of slander” came from Jay Rockefeller, Tom Harkin, Ed Schultz, Keith Olbermann, and others.  Swindle also called it a measure of Democratic desperation that these comments attack McCain’s extensive experience for the benefit of a completely inexperienced candidate in Barack Obama.  The first job of a President is to keep the country safe, and McCain has decades of experience in this area.  Obama has none at all.

“Give me a break, folks,” Swindle says when talking about the lip service he has heard from Democrats about honoring McCain’s service.  Their actions speak louder than their words. Clark, Swindle says, should be ashamed of himself.

Questions:

  • Me: Executive experience? — Graham says that he’s been a JAG, and knows that a squadron commander is a powerful figure in the Navy.  He has the ability to end careers, conduct discipline, has tremendous responsibilities for all of the people under his command.  John McCain advocated the surge, which was executive experience and leadership on display, and even John Edwards recognized that by deriding it as the McCain Surge until it started working.  His support for the Iraq War showed selfless leadership, since it almost ended his presidential aspirations.  On detainee rights, McCain showed the same kind of leadership based on his convictions.
  • Me (cont’d) Col. Swindle says that the role of squadron commander has “enormous responsibility”.  In McCain’s case, he trained new and transitional pilots on carrier missions, which is very difficult.  When he first took charge, the squadron had a terrible morale and maintenance record.  He transformed that squadron to make it a first-rate unit.  He got rid of the deadwood in its officer corps and brought in new blood.  That’s real executive leadership and real results.
  • Matt Lewis, Townhall: Is their a subtle attempt to smear pilots as cowards, and is this a concerted effort by the Obama campaign? — Graham says he doesn’t know what motivates Clark to say these things, but Obama has to show some leadership and either tell Clark to shut up or agree with him.  This is now about Obama and his leadership abilities.  Will he cut Clark loose?  Col. Swindle says Obama should say publicly, “Knock this crap off.”  If he can’t even lead his surrogates, he can’t lead the nation.  John McCain has never said that being a POW qualifies him to be President, which Clark derisively suggests.

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There is something frighteningly hideous abut Wesley Clark – almost a military version of Ramsey Clark.

Hilts on July 1, 2008 at 11:49 AM

There should be a “Gen.” before Wes Clark’s name…to remind us the right is “supporting the troops” when they smear him…

alphie on July 1, 2008 at 11:51 AM

Obama is in full retreat…Monty Python would be proud…

right2bright on July 1, 2008 at 11:52 AM

Will he cut Clark loose?

For some reason I think he will keep Clark around. Clinton fired Clark…. Clinton is backing Obama as is Clark. Something smells… and feels wrong.

I agree with Hilts on this… but I would use the term “Pucker Effect” with Clark.

upinak on July 1, 2008 at 11:53 AM

“Give me a break, folks,” Swindle says when talking about the lip service he has heard from Democrats about honoring McCain’s service. Their actions speak louder than their words. Clark, Swindle says, should be ashamed of himself.

Pardon my lack of seriousness, but that reads like something out of Jonathan Swift, or Paul Bunyan, or something.

Orson Swindle? That is too good to be true.

BigD on July 1, 2008 at 11:54 AM

alphie,

How is that ‘smear’ again?

Did or didn’t he deserve the scorn?

Sir Napsalot on July 1, 2008 at 11:54 AM

There should be a “Gen.” before Wes Clark’s name…to remind us the right is “supporting the troops” when they smear him…

alphie on July 1, 2008 at 11:51 AM

And we should include Living Wall, for those who would like to stand in front of the real troops and soldiers.

Wanna go first Alphie?

upinak on July 1, 2008 at 11:55 AM

What’s the pro’s and con’s of having Clark speak for Obama, and Graham speak for McCain?

I’d like to see the two principals address each other over this stuff sometimes.

JiangxiDad on July 1, 2008 at 11:55 AM

It’s the “political general” stink, Hilts. Clarke has been stinking like a dead skunk for many years, since he weaseled his way into command in Kosovo and started sucking up to some of the worst mass-murderers in recent history. He was Billy and Hilly’s main butt-boy in those days, but even they got wise and want nothing to do with him now.

O’Bambi ain’t that smart, it looks like.

mojo on July 1, 2008 at 11:57 AM

The phony outrage from the right, nap?

Gen. Wes Clark has faced far worse than a herd of angry chickenhawks.

I just thought it odd the Captain felt the need to leave off Clark’s rank when he gave one to every other military man in the story.

Will Gen. David Patraeus get the same shabby treatment if he fails to parrot the right’s talking points after he retires this year?

You know it.

alphie on July 1, 2008 at 11:58 AM

There should be a “Gen.” before Wes Clark’s name…to remind us the right is “supporting the troops” when they smear him…

alphie on July 1, 2008 at 11:51 AM

Did you think that by finding a few military men who support liberal democrats, you would somehow get Republicans and conservatives to be blackmailed into abandoning their principles?

Also, wasn’t Clark fired by Clinton?

JiangxiDad on July 1, 2008 at 11:59 AM

Looks like Alphie just got his new talking points from moveon.org

rockmom on July 1, 2008 at 11:59 AM

Are they SURE that McCain has NEVER said,” I WAS A PRISONER OF WAR AND THAT QUALIFIES ME to be PRESIDENT”?

I don’t remember McCain saying that.

Does a Harvard educated guy who takes 20 years to pay off his student loans make me confident in his ability to run a trillion dollar economy? NO.

originalpechanga on July 1, 2008 at 11:59 AM

John McCain advocated the surge, which was executive experience and leadership on display,

That is a real stretch. Actually its sounds silly, which is just about what Lindsay Graham is.

BigD on July 1, 2008 at 12:01 PM

Will Gen. David Patraeus get the same shabby treatment if he fails to parrot the right’s talking points after he retires this year?

You know it.

alphie on July 1, 2008 at 11:58 AM

Don’t know if it’s shabby, and don’t believe he’s parroting anything. But if he publicly disagrees with the Republicans in the course of an election, he will likely get challenged.

Hypothetically, suppose Petraeus says something critical of our military in an attempt to help a liberal get elected.

What’s wrong with criticizing him?

Also, what will you say if Obama disowns Clark?

JiangxiDad on July 1, 2008 at 12:03 PM

I remember General Wes Clark.

Wasn’t he the one that loaned logistical support and vehicles for the Waco debacle while he was stationed at Fort Hood in 1993?
Wasn’t he the one that bombed innocent Serbs (right about the time of BillyJeff’s impeachment trial)?

Dr.Cwac.Cwac on July 1, 2008 at 12:04 PM

alphie on July 1, 2008 at 11:58 AM

Alphie you don’t know what you are talking about there son.

When ever you take yout head out of your methane holding take you call your butt, then maybe you can talk to others.

Until then, get in that line in front of me, will you.

upinak on July 1, 2008 at 12:04 PM

That is a real stretch. Actually its sounds silly,

BigD on July 1, 2008 at 12:01 PM

Why?

JiangxiDad on July 1, 2008 at 12:04 PM

Dr.Cwac.Cwac on July 1, 2008 at 12:04 PM

He also tried to do a Squadron re-alignment with the Air Force. Which no one remembers. Totally screwing up some very good Air Force Squadrons. Clark also tried revamping the SOP for these Air Squads.

Oh don’t get me started…..

upinak on July 1, 2008 at 12:06 PM

Of course McCain never said any such thing, nor have any of his supporters.

Perhaps the most galling thing that Gen. Clark said was “riding around in a fighter jet”. John McCain was not a “rider” in a fighter jet, he was a PILOT who flew 22 successful missions over North Vietnam before being shot down, and he survived the Forrestal fire which started while he was in the cockpit awaiting takeoff. Before the Viet Cong knew who he was, they knew he was a pilot and they reserved especially harsh treatment for the pilots. That’s why he was kicked and beaten and his broken armes left untreated for days after his capture.

The suggestion by Gen. Clark that he was a mere “rider” is most certainly a smear and we have every right to take him to task for it.

rockmom on July 1, 2008 at 12:06 PM

Just between you and me, I’d be willing to bet that General Patton would slap “General” Clark…..

Vntnrse on July 1, 2008 at 12:07 PM

Vntnrse on July 1, 2008 at 12:07 PM

Correct term would be “Drop Kick” him.

upinak on July 1, 2008 at 12:08 PM

Gen. Wes Clark has faced far worse than a herd of angry chickenhawks.

alphie on July 1, 2008 at 11:58 AM

Absolutely. He was all set to start World War III over 200 Russian soldiers occupying an airport till a Brit general punctured his ego driven balloon. Wes is certainly the go to guy in times of stress if you’re looking for an escalation of conflict. Plus, he looks really good with his shirt half unbuttoned on a magazine cover,..just the sort of dignified posture I like in a military leader.

a capella on July 1, 2008 at 12:10 PM

Gen. Clark also flat stated that John McCain’s experience as a squadron commander didn’t count as executive experience because it wasn’t during wartime. That begs the obvious response that he didn’t get the chance to command the squadron during the war because he was in prison for the last five years of the war.

So he is not only a smear artist but he is a dumbass.

rockmom on July 1, 2008 at 12:10 PM

Instead of blaming the surrogate by name why doesn’t McCains campaign blame the Obama campaign direct.

multiuseless on July 1, 2008 at 12:12 PM

Does anyone know why Clinton fired Clark?

Queeter on July 1, 2008 at 12:14 PM

Notice that alphie never address the real question.

He/she neatly side-stepped and used phony ‘the right smeared him’ strawman argument to mis-direct the discussion to Gen. Patraeus.

Sir Napsalot on July 1, 2008 at 12:14 PM

Looks like Alphie just got his new talking points from moveon.org

rockmom on July 1, 2008 at 11:59 AM

Yep. Gotta give the little guy credit, though. He’s posted twice in the same thread. Usually, it’s just hit and run between classes.

a capella on July 1, 2008 at 12:14 PM

he survived the Forrestal fire which started while he was in the cockpit awaiting takeoff…
rockmom on July 1, 2008 at 12:06 PM
Saw that on the History Channel the other day… scary and dangerous as Hell!
he was kicked and beaten and his broken armes left untreated for days after his capture…
rockmom on July 1, 2008 at 12:06 PM
Beaten by a mob wasn’t it?

christophercube on July 1, 2008 at 12:15 PM

So he is not only a smear artist but he is a dumbass.

rockmom on July 1, 2008 at 12:10 PM

I just think it is funny that Obama keeps having the rejects of the world surround him. It is like watching a circle of Wagons on a prairie!

upinak on July 1, 2008 at 12:16 PM

Wes Clark Interview, Part One: The Petraeus Ad

Matt Stoller: So how do the millions of people who feel lied to by General Petraeus express themselves? What’s the appropriate way to express themselves?

Wes Clark: Send emails, write editorials, call Senators, write Op-Eds, letters to the editors, but make them substantive, serious letters. If you feel like he has lied to you say so, but don’t make the pun on his name. Show it with facts and let people draw the conclusion. It’s inflammatory rhetoric to hurl out accusations of lying, that’s a conclusion that has to be drawn by a careful review and examination of the evidence and it has to be used with great circumspection. That kind of reckless language, especially the use of puns and so forth, people don’t like it, it doesn’t change peoples’ minds, it alienates support, and this is a democracy. We’ve got to convince moderate middle of the road Americans to come our way. We won’t do it with those kinds of ads.

Dr.Cwac.Cwac on July 1, 2008 at 12:17 PM

Yep. Gotta give the little guy credit, though. He’s posted twice in the same thread. Usually, it’s just hit and run between classes.

I realize it’s been a while, but I didn’t realize they had implemented different “classes” in kindergarten.

hindmost on July 1, 2008 at 12:21 PM

How more thoroughly could Wesley CLark have blown away his chances for Obama’s VP slot than this idiocy?

michaelo on July 1, 2008 at 12:21 PM

For those of you who don’t know who Orson Swindle is:

http://www.techlawjournal.com/people/swindle.htm

As a Marine aviator serving in South Vietnam on November 11, 1966, Mr. Swindle was shot down from the skies over North Vietnam while flying his 205th and last combat mission. He was captured by the North Vietnamese and held Prisoner of War in Hanoi for the next six years and four months. On March 4, 1973, Mr. Swindle was released from captivity.

Mr. Swindle retired from the U.S. Marine Corps in 1979 with the rank of Lieutenant Colonel. His 20 military decorations for valor in combat include two Silver Stars, two Bronze Stars, and two Purple Hearts

JamesB on July 1, 2008 at 12:24 PM

How more thoroughly could Wesley CLark have blown away his chances for Obama’s VP slot than this idiocy?

michaelo on July 1, 2008 at 12:21 PM

Don’t you think he’s angling for the cabinet or maybe national security advisor position? He may be repulsive but he isn’t dumb.

a capella on July 1, 2008 at 12:25 PM

Does anyone know why Clinton fired Clark?

Queeter on July 1, 2008 at 12:14 PM

Basically because his junior officers mutinied and the British officers in Bosnia refused to take orders from him when he tried to start World War III with Russia. Also because he totally embarrassed Clinton by meeting publicly with Serb war criminal Radko Mladic twice.

rockmom on July 1, 2008 at 12:27 PM

Gen. Wes Clark: Hack is as hack does.

Dr.Cwac.Cwac on July 1, 2008 at 12:29 PM

upinak, when addressing alphie you should use the more appropriate “miss”.

As for supporting the troops, alphie you pansie, don’t waste your time. That meme is set in stone, and trotting out a little fairy like Wesley isn’t going to change anyone’s mind about anything, other than to wonder how on earth a twinkie like Clark got a star on his jacket.

Incompetant, dishonest, and stupid is a rare combination of failures in a man who achieved the rank of general.

As for Obama, I don’t blame him for putting up Clark and promising him some vainglorious title for his support. The military comparison of a coke snorting, pot smoking, affirmative action Harvard grad with one year of Senate experience, versus a Navy jet fighter pilot and squadron commander shot down in Vietnam while engaged in active combat duty, who spent 5 years in an enemy POW camp, and has been in the Senate for 26 years, most of it in defense oversight.

Again, militarily speaking, it’s a pretty tough call.

Your serve, dipstick.

Jaibones on July 1, 2008 at 12:30 PM

Someone should tell Wesley to get ready for a serious road rash, cuz B.O. may be about to throw him under the bus!

Not saying this would be a bad thing, of course.

pilamaye on July 1, 2008 at 12:30 PM

The phony outrage from the right, nap?

Gen. Wes Clark has faced far worse than a herd of angry chickenhawks.

I just thought it odd the Captain felt the need to leave off Clark’s rank when he gave one to every other military man in the story.

Will Gen. David Patraeus get the same shabby treatment if he fails to parrot the right’s talking points after he retires this year?

You know it.

alphie on July 1, 2008 at 11:58 AM

And where and when did you serve? I figure if you are going to use the stereotypical chickenhawk slander, you must have served. As former army, the man is a disgrace to his rank and the uniform he once wore. Nothing phony about my outrage.

coyoterex on July 1, 2008 at 12:38 PM

Incidently LTC Swindle has an article on NRO on this today.

http://article.nationalreview.com/?q=YjUwNzk2ZTliY2VhMWZlYzM4OWI5YThkMzdhOTYwZjI=

The most recent installment, in which Gen. Wesley Clark — an Obama surrogate and failed presidential primary contender in 2004 — went on Face the Nation Sunday and attacked McCain’s record of military service to our country, was a despicable act of old-style politics. This is not the first time, however, Obama’s surrogates have taken cheap shots at McCain’s military service, while Obama and his campaign predicate nearly every attack with something along the lines of “we honor his service.” This is a page straight out of the dirty-tricks Democrat playbook. This is not “new politics.” This is an escapist tactic to avoid the real issues Americans are concerned about.

JamesB on July 1, 2008 at 12:38 PM

alphie on July 1, 2008 at 11:58 AM

I will say by good-bye now Alphie, you see people who oppose the right and stick around to defend their position get to continue to post.
Soon you will be banned for flying in, dropping lies and straw-man arguments, then not staying around to defend them. You are useless to us, and to your cause. You call us chicken hawks, but you are the chicken.
Ed M. is still fairly new, so he will cut you some slack…but your days are numbered.

right2bright on July 1, 2008 at 12:42 PM

Pardon my lack of seriousness, but that reads like something out of Jonathan Swift, or Paul Bunyan, or something.

Orson Swindle? That is too good to be true.

BigD on July 1, 2008 at 11:54 AM

Speaking just for myself, if I had any reason to believe you qualified for the honor of shining Swindle’s shoes, I’d be more likely to pardon your “lack of seriousness.” For now, no deal.

CK MacLeod on July 1, 2008 at 12:47 PM

What is to discuss. night?

To disagree with Clark, you have to believe anyone who’s a pilot is qualified to be President.

Even the guys flying in drugs from Mexico and Canada.

Do you believe that?

Or is this just another phony outrage manufacture by right?

I think we know the answer…

alphie on July 1, 2008 at 12:50 PM

I don’t care if McCain was a POW or if Barry was a “community organizer”

I want to vote for someone who isn’t a pathological, shifty, smarmy, ego-blinded, two-faced liar.

Which leaves Obama off the list.

McCain is irritating, but educable.

Barry is a jellyfish in search of a wave.

profitsbeard on July 1, 2008 at 12:55 PM

What is to discuss. night?

To disagree with Clark, you have to believe anyone who’s a pilot is qualified to be President.

In 2004 Clark believed that showing “courage” for 3 months in Vietnam was the major qualification to be president. Now he believes that 5 1/2 years of surviving torture with dignity means nothing. Why the change?

John Kerry has heard the thump of enemy mortars.

CLARK: He’s seen the flash of the tracers. He’s lived the values of service and sacrifice. In the Navy, as a prosecutor, as a senator, he proved his physical courage under fire. And he’s proved his moral courage too. John Kerry fought a war, and I respect him for that. And he came home to fight a peace. And I respect him for that, too.

JamesB on July 1, 2008 at 12:56 PM

Sorry this is a HuffPo link, but it’s audio of a similar press conference call on the same subject. Senator Warner, Orson Swindle, Bud Day, Bud McFarlane, Admiral Leighton Smith, and Carl Smith, who was McCain”s XO all participate.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/offthebus-listening-post/mccain-campaign-press-cal_b_110010.html

juliesa on July 1, 2008 at 12:58 PM

Missed this part:

John Kerry’s combination of physical courage and moral values is my definition of what we need as Americans in our commander in chief. And John Edwards with his leadership and extraordinary intelligence, he’s going to be a great member of that command team.

JamesB on July 1, 2008 at 12:58 PM

To disagree with Clark, you have to believe anyone who’s a pilot is qualified to be President.

Even the guys flying in drugs from Mexico and Canada.

Do you believe that?

Or is this just another phony outrage manufacture by right?

I think we know the answer…

alphie on July 1, 2008 at 12:50 PM

Most of your posts are completely incoherent…are you sure you are writing what you mean?
Or are you just a jokester…really, I mean that, do you just put words together to purposely be confusing?
There was a guy who once was on the speaking circuit that would be hired to talk gibberish, but make it sound like it had substance. The audience would sit in bewilderment, but because it was a social situation they would be patient trying to understand something that wasn’t.
That’s how I feel about your posts, maybe writing them down, coming back and re-writing you could post something that makes sense.
Thanks, we don’t mind dissenting opinion, if we can understand what the dissenter is writing.

right2bright on July 1, 2008 at 12:59 PM

BigD, it would be better if you did some research before insulting someone like Orson Swindle.

juliesa on July 1, 2008 at 1:04 PM

Gen. Wes Clark has faced far worse than a herd of angry chickenhawks
alphie

Chickenhawk (also chicken hawk and chicken-hawk; sometimes designated after a person’s name by [c.h.]) is a political epithet used in the United States to criticize a politician, bureaucrat, or commentator who strongly supports a war or other military action, but has never personally been in a war, especially if that person actively avoided military service when of draft age.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chickenhawk_%28politics%29

alphie do you even have a clue?
Not only has McCain served, both of his SONS are currently serving.
BOTH OF THEM VOLUNTEERED.

You are an ass.

ArmyAunt on July 1, 2008 at 1:13 PM

BigD, it would be better if you did some research before insulting someone like Orson Swindle.

juliesa on July 1, 2008 at 1:04 PM

Lord, people, I didn’t insult him. I only commented that the words themselves sounded like satire.

And for what it’s worth, the quote I referred to was Swindle defending McCain politically; he was not talking security or military policy.

BigD on July 1, 2008 at 1:16 PM

Orson Swindle (Born March 8, 1937), a decorated Vietnam War POW, was sworn in as Commissioner of the Federal Trade Commission of the United States on December 18, 1997. He had previously served as Assistant Secretary of Commerce during the Reagan Administration.

He previously served as State Director for the U.S. Department of Agriculture. In 1994 and in 1996 he was a Republican candidate for Congress in Hawaii’s 1st Congressional District. In 1996 he held the incumbent, Democrat Neil Abercrombie, to 50% of the vote. Swindle served in the U.S. Marine Corps, and he retired as a Lieutenant Colonel.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Orson_Swindle

ArmyAunt on July 1, 2008 at 1:16 PM

If you ever wondered what a piece of sh/t of a half o’ man puke Wes Clark is, listen to this video. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Spn1Lg-qIw
At 3:50 he starts laying out a scenario about the agony, he as a commander has had to go thru in making critical decisions.

At 4:00 in to it, he really lets us in to his soul with the key words “what about your reputation, How do you handle it publicly?”

That shows you that he is a real “cover your ass kind of guy”. Wessy boy is. A real leader never has a concern about his reputation, you do what is right because it is just that right, reputation be damned!

He is truly an ass bag, kiss ass, bottom feeder.

TheSitRep on July 1, 2008 at 1:25 PM

alphie do you even have a clue?
Not only has McCain served, both of his SONS are currently serving.
BOTH OF THEM VOLUNTEERED.

You are an ass.

ArmyAunt on July 1, 2008 at 1:13 PM

Hence my post about him be incoherent…

right2bright on July 1, 2008 at 1:25 PM

On alphie:

Most of your posts are completely incoherent…are you sure you are writing what you mean?…
right2bright on July 1, 2008 at 12:59 PM

I think it’s Gabby Johnson style “authentic frontier gibberish”.

forest on July 1, 2008 at 1:31 PM

What time does the next bus get here? Have a feeling ol’ Wes is gonna be under it.

GarandFan on July 1, 2008 at 1:40 PM

Lindsay can be on the wrong side at times, but as an advocate he is extremely effective. He should be out there more.

tomas on July 1, 2008 at 1:50 PM

What’s it all about, Alphie? Even you should be able to see that, in the realm of recent general officers, Wes is the runt of the litter. Old Waco Wes, later butt kisser to dictators, now butt kisser to new age politicians, forever a disgrace to his rank and uniform.

horatio on July 1, 2008 at 1:50 PM

What is to discuss. night?

Night. Day. Weather. Politics. Plenty of topics…

To disagree with Clark, you have to believe anyone who’s a pilot is qualified to be President. Even the guys flying in drugs from Mexico and Canada.

Do you believe that?

Straw Man. No one ever claimed that anyone who has ever been a pilot is qualified to be president.

Nonetheless, to disagree with Clark is to disagree with Clark. It’s pretty easy, actually.

Or is this just another phony outrage manufacture by right?

I think we know the answer…

alphie on July 1, 2008 at 12:50 PM

Phony? Outrage? LOL! How about pointing out f-a-c-t-s? They’re a b!tch…

eanax on July 1, 2008 at 1:56 PM

. . . The suggestion by Gen. Clark that he was a mere “rider” is most certainly a smear and we have every right to take him to task for it.

rockmom on July 1, 2008 at 12:06 PM

No military man who was speaking of a pilot with respect would use the term ‘rider’. Clearly the execrable Clark was attempting to not only smear but denigrate John McCain’s service. Yet he speaks the language of the anti-American Left and the so-called Democratic Party.

It is hard to believe that more than a handful of American voters would vote for a Democrat like Obambi, who would put up with, and even encourage, such calumny, while issuing only a smirking denial.

Hard to believe. What has happened to this country?

MrLynn on July 1, 2008 at 2:07 PM

Mr. Lynn

Look at alphie. There’s your poster child.

Sir Napsalot on July 1, 2008 at 2:17 PM

PLEASE DON’T STOP TALKING WESLEY…

Because the more you rant with your BS, the more you embarrasse the hate America democrats, and the messiah.

byteshredder on July 1, 2008 at 2:32 PM

am i the only one thinking that this is a Clinton ploy using Clark as a double agent to under cut Nobama and give the election to Jaun McCain, so she can take her rightful spot at the top of the ticket in 2012.

Mojack420 on July 1, 2008 at 2:54 PM

He is truly an ass bag, kiss ass, bottom feeder.

C’mon, don’t sugarcoat it :)

whitetop on July 1, 2008 at 3:09 PM

When in doubt, send in Graham Cracker. Well, he does make sense here, I just can’t stand the dude since he called me a bigot.
“The first job of a President is to keep the country safe, and McCain has decades of experience in this area”, BUT McCain has failed already on the domestic front with his insane ‘immigration reform’ mentality. Just enforce the law, that would be the correct reform.
As far as foreign policy, military tactics and ‘strategery’, John wins, hands down. If he allows things to get worse at home and we have to put the military on the border, he could pull that off too, if the captains of industry allow him to.

Christine on July 1, 2008 at 3:12 PM

Wesley Clarke, Rev. Wright, William Ayers, man the hits just keep coming with Fauxbama…….And no one is even talking yet how doubling capital gains taxes will cripple the U.S. economy or how Iraq will be taken over by Iran…How do ya do it Barry???? How do you promote socialism and anti-Americanism and still have people convinced you’re the Messiah? I think Gerry Ferraro was right when she said people are backing this guy for his color, even if it’s white guilt…..I’m pretty sure McCain wins this though, and Barry will actually have to go back to being a Senator. He hasn’t been one for 18 months, and if he’s real about being for the common man, he should return his salary, since he’s taking a sabbatical to run for President.

adamsmith on July 1, 2008 at 3:18 PM

People can complain about Lindsay Graham, but he is a good advocate on an issue like this. And if conservatives want to get rid of him the next time they run someone against him make sure it is not some exKlan member like Buddy Witherspoon..or whatever the hell his name was.

Graham came up from nothing, adopted his little sister to keep her out of the foster care system. He is a decent man.

So is McCain.

I am not so sure about Clark. And I am definitely having my doubts about Obama. I just do not know what the upside is for them to go after McCain on this. It only makes them look bad.

Terrye on July 1, 2008 at 4:18 PM

Clark is that sick breed, a military careerist with no integrity. I repeat. He has no integrity and will do whatever it takes to advance his career. You should ask some of the people who worked for him when he was CINCEUCOM.

NNtrancer on July 1, 2008 at 4:33 PM

Military service in combat; certainly only matters to Saint Mc on a very selective political basis…

Consider also the fact; that he couldn’t find it in his cold calculating political heart to even back Senator Webb’s “New GI Bill”.

J_Gocht on July 1, 2008 at 4:48 PM

Consider also the fact; that he couldn’t find it in his cold calculating political heart to even back Senator Webb’s “New GI Bill”.

J_Gocht on July 1, 2008 at 4:48 PM

I didn’t quote the first sentence because it was so foolish.
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You didn’t know that McCain had a competing bill in congress and his benefits created an incentive to stay in the service, that is rather then just providing wholesale bennies, the longer you served the more bennies you received…it’s called incentives, something Democrats don’t understand, you only think of hand-outs.
You didn’t know that? or you knew it but didn’t want to be honest about it.

McCain, along with Sens. Lindsey Graham of South Carolina and Richard Burr of North Carolina, has introduced an alternative bill that would increase education benefits on a sliding scale based on an individual’s years of service. McCain argues his bill would have a smaller impact on retention rates than the legislation that the Senate passed.

Oh look, either caught in a lie, or you are just uninformed…what a non-surprise.

right2bright on July 1, 2008 at 5:35 PM

Weaselly Clark was dismissed from command for not having the mental compacity to fulfill the duties he was appointed to perform. Now he has the mental capacity to comment on the role of Commander-in-Chief since one actually “relieved” him for incompetence.

volsense on July 1, 2008 at 5:37 PM

“…McCain had a competing bill in congress and his benefits created an incentive to stay in the service, that is rather then just providing wholesale bennies…” right2bright on July 1, 2008 at 5:35 PM

Just providing wholesale bennies…sure wouldn’t want our brave men and women gettin’ any of those!

Despite St Mc’s best efforts to the contrary; Senator Webb’s bill passed 77-22, no thanks to the Saint.

Remember that troopers!

J_Gocht on July 1, 2008 at 5:52 PM

Vets say “bull chit” to Saint Mc…!

“I think the voting records for the past few years speak for themselves, Senator McCain objects to anything that costs money for disabled veterans, why?”

Welcome home troopers!

J_Gocht on July 1, 2008 at 6:58 PM

I think no one says anything for obama unless it is approved. What if this was a trial balloon to see how everyone would react? So let’s throw out the most useless of the obamba supporters. Now clark who probably is despised by obama’s camp because he was military after all, can now jump under the bus himself.
As for alphie, that’s who will cancel out our vote. Wonder what jr hi he goes/wents to. Mention jr hi, because I hear it all the time there. Or worse what university is he currently enrolled in? Imagine denigrating what mccain went through for 5+ years while this jerk probably couldn’t stand water boardng.

Bambi on July 1, 2008 at 7:32 PM

“…In an interview with reporters on the back of his campaign bus, the “Straight Talk Express” Monday afternoon, McCain said that even in retrospect he would still have voted to authorize the war, as he did in 2002.

I think there’s no question,”

Whoa now, the Saint responded to my earlier question yesterday afternoon and I missed it…!

J_Gocht on July 1, 2008 at 8:39 PM