And Iraq was responsible for 9/11 how? That’s the problem with Republicans today…the inability to discern the enemy from a convenient target that John Wayne was gunning for long before the towers fell.

DanKenton on June 30, 2008 at 7:54 PM

I will stipulate, for the sake of argument, that Iraq was not at all responsible in any way for 9/11. That idiot Bush still made Iraq part of the war, no? And killed Saddam, and encircled Iran, and bullied Syria into giving up its WMD program, &c.

See, that idiot Bush and his idiot advisors might have had a “big picture” in mind.

And if that idiot Bush had Iraq in his sights before 9/11, well, that’s proof of his idiocy, huh? The most aggressive enemy of the US in the ME, the enemy that tried to assassinate a US President, an enemy in a very strategeric position in the ME.

You’re right. Bush is an idiot.

DanKenton on June 30, 2008 at 7:54 PM

This stupid line is getting really old.

I suppose John Wayne is Bill Clinton since he was bombing
Iraq and calling for regime change due to Saddams WMD’s and
refusal to adhere to the 17 UN resolutions to disarm.

President Bush never said that Iraq was responsible for 9/11. If you had the ability to look beyond your fish bowl of liberal talking points,you would understand that the War on Terror is about fighting Islamic jihadist,not revenge for
9/11.
9/11 changed the way we handled the growing threat of the jihadist like al-qaeda that gained so much power during the
Clinton administration and the appeasement policies of the left.
We went on the offensive,and it has worked:

Cheer up. We’re winning this War on Terror

Al-Qaeda and the Taleban are in retreat, the surge has worked in Iraq and Islamism is discredited. Not a bad haul
Gerard Baker

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/comment/columnists/gerard_baker/article4221376.ece

Bush made the world a safer place

We may jeer him and tell him to go home, but America’s allies continue to benefit from some of George Bush’s decisions

http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2008/jun/17/georgebush.terrorism
Oliver Kamm
guardian.co.uk,
Tuesday June 17 2008

But hey, don’t let the facts get in your way.
going the appeasement route of the left and UN has done wonders for Tibet,Darfur,Rwanda,and Iran.

You can bet that Israel will not wait for the international
community to make a decision on Iran, the Jews already got burned waiting for that with Hitler,resulting in the loss of millions of lives.

If a major war is started in the Middle East due to Iran’s quest for a nuclear weapon and the desire to “wipe Israel off the map”, it will be because Iran was not dealt with strongly and allowed to manipulate the international community,not because of “John Wayne” diplomacy.

This has to be personal hatred for the military, not just pandering to the electorate. Only a very few folks on the far left or right will understand the implications. It sounds to me like they are punishing the Army and Marine Corps for proving them wrong in Iraq.

And Iraq was responsible for 9/11 how? That’s the problem with Republicans today…the inability to discern the enemy from a convenient target that John Wayne was gunning for long before the towers fell.

DanKenton on June 30, 2008 at 6:34 PM

Just because he wants to play cowboy and screw Americans? That whole “9/11″ thing was just a coincidence?

Tell me, was there any value in killing Saddam? Any value in putting the Taliban out of power? Any value in encircling Iran?

And yes, he’s contributed mightily to weakening the Republican party, but he’s had a lot of help.

Baaa!

No, I don’t. That’s why I put the word war in quotations because this is no war. This is GWB’s way of playing cowboy and screwing Americans in the process. But that doesn’t really matter to his loyal following of sheep here among us. No economic data, no ex-administration dissenters and no win for Obama in November will ever convince you that you’ve just witnessed the destruction of the GOP over the past 8 years. Enjoy.

Yes, and I thank you too Mr. President. You have managed to spend nearly 1 TRILLION DOLLARS without having captured the prime target of your “war”

DanKenton on June 30, 2008 at 4:40 PM

Do you honestly think that a war, any war, has one man as its prime target?

Yes, and I thank you too Mr. President. You have managed to spend nearly 1 TRILLION DOLLARS without having captured the prime target of your “war” while weakening our country with your amnesty plan, killing our economy by turning our dollar into the Northern Peso and reducing the image and name of our great country to a punchline around the world.

The history books will remember you well sir….thank you.

Bush’s has been impressing me more and more during his 2nd term. He is truly a great man.

AlexB

I think he’s an idiot but according to him I’m just a racist for wanting our borders to be secure so what do I know?

those extremist obstructionist democrats were voted out of office, and replaced with some reasonable responsible democrats, my faith in US citizens would be restored.

The legislation will bring to more than $650 billion the amount Congress has provided for the Iraq war since it began more than five years ago.

This statement is also misleading because a good portion of that money would have been required to fund the military during peace time anyway.

Lame Duck … my a$$!

“We’re I’m ashamed EXTERMELY PROUD the president of the United States is from Texas.”
— Natalie Maines, 2003 Texas Gal

Hate surveillance measures used by Bush but want them legalized now that they think a Democrat will be President? Check

Hate the war in Iraq but keep voting to fund it? Check

This stuff just really backs my theory that these two parties are essentially the same. They have the same goals and just use wedge issues to separate the voters to a point where a third party doesn’t have a shot because of the fear of “wasting” a vote. They all make me want to vomit and I refuse to vote for either Republicans or Democrats anymore.

I don’t care for the part on the Drug Trafficing part. I think that should have been seperate. But that is my opinion.

upinak on June 30, 2008 at 1:36 PM

I can understand that but I do think it was timely to include it rather than go thru the process again and as I said a while back on another thread, that’s the kind of money we use down here to reinforce border security. This time it’s going to help on the other side of the Rio Grande and that’s good because Mexico has a President now that is pushing to clean up corruption in the ranks. We need to tackle the gangs, drug cartels and coyotes on their side of the border too.

Those that elect the rejects like Reid and Murtha and Pelosi need to have a reality check. I hope they like being taxed.

As I like this bill… it has some good qualities. I don’t care for the part on the Drug Trafficing part. I think that should have been seperate. But that is my opinion.

upinak on June 30, 2008 at 1:36 PM

Speaking of Pelosi and drug trafficing…it seems the feds are investigating the city of SF (Pelosi’s district) for shielding Honduran “youths” from deportation:

“San Francisco juvenile probation officials – citing the city’s immigrant sanctuary status – are protecting Honduran youths caught dealing crack cocaine from possible federal deportation and have given some offenders a city-paid flight home with carte blanche to return.”

I’m shocked…shocked I tell you!

Here’s the complete article:

Feds Probe SF’s Migrant Offender Shield

Thank you. There were times I thought you had slipped up, fallen and stumbled again, but each misstep, although maybe not on the surest footing, was at least headed in the right direction. Also, whenever you took the right steps and landed on sure footing, I was eminently proud.

Again, thank you President Bush.

–Jason

President Bush took the gracious path of acknowledging the bipartisanship:

Nice gesture, but it’ll get him absolutely zero goodwill from the left.

Harry Reid set the stage with his staggeringly foolish declaration of defeat on the Senate floor in the spring of 2007, as the surge troops first began arriving in Iraq.

New spin, Harry Reid won the war for us by making a stupid statement as Dem Leader which with all the recent gains in Iraq would be replayed to show how foolish the dems are if they were to oppose funding and a pullout from Iraq. Harry Reid’s patriotic idiocy has effectively helped to take the issue off the table and Win the War, all thanks to absurd Democrat defeatism.

Harry Reid should have had his teeth knocked out over what he’s said about this war and that would be a mild punishment.

John Murtha ranks with Benedict Arnold in all he has done to hobble the troops.

The Democrat Party has an undeclared war on America and it is even more damaging than the declared war Al Qaeda has with us.

Our enemies cannot hope to win without the generous aid and featherbed comfort that the Democrat Party continues to offer them.

Any voter who even slightly considers voting for a national Democrat in this next election is a complete idiot. It’s akin to paying for someone to stick a rusty dagger in your back.

By the way, Mr Bolton’s piece yesterday was very well said. I am happy that he lays it all out, instead of being a dopey politician.