most democrats are born in this country. I doubt they are loyal to the country.

lorien1973 on June 27, 2008 at 7:47 PM

How true. Sad, but true. I wonder what JFK or HST would say to the current crop of dhimmys. I doubt they would recognize the Democratic party of today.

Entelechy on June 28, 2008 at 1:55 PM

You are a truth teller, not a truther. Doesn’t mean you’re always right.

:)

and me too.

HawaiiLwyr on June 27, 2008 at 11:44 PM

And Mrs. Limerick :)

Perhaps. But perhaps what is on it has nothing to do with WHERE he was born???

JannyMae on June 28, 2008 at 2:30 AM

And what Passportgate contains. It might be a combination of the birth certificate information and the information on his passport. Media wake up and be diligent. Some are working it but some are dumb and/or playing possum.

Remember these words – you too The Race Card and baldilocks. Also, I’m not a truther.

How serious is this? Well, I went to the Social Security Office in Alexandria, LA to get a replacement SS Card. Well, I did have a DD 214 (just got back from Desert
Storm) and a cocky attitude about being a Veteran of a Foreign War, but not my Birth Certificate. The lady at the office could tell me I was born abroad but could not give me a replacement card because I did not have my birth cert. As a side note, they were practically giving checks away to kids who had never worked, but for me, A VETERAN, they gave nothing but grief. This was in 1991.

1) When I entered the public school system
2) When I applied for my first driver’s license
3) When I applied for a passport
4) When I applied to vote
5) When I applied for a marriage license.
6) When I applied for Social Security Benefits (which also required marriage and divorce papers in order to receive benefits from my ex husband’s SS that I was entitled to)

Other than #3 & #6, the laws of the State of Florida required it. Some of these requirements have been abrogated by the State.

My point being. If I’ve had to produce a birth certificate with embossed seal 6 times for mile stone events in my life, I would think that BHO could produce his if there was ever any question about his birth or eligibility to run for the President of the United States of America!

Produce your goddamn birth certificate Obama, or piss off you arrogant prick. The law doesn’t apply any less to you– in fact, politicians are held to a higher standard than the rest.

JiangxiDad on June 28, 2008 at 7:03 AM

+1

Politicians ARE held to a higher standard as their private lives are open to public scrutiny as pertains to their office. But THIS business of proving a POTUS candidate’s birth status is absolute law, not just for the consumption of media’s inquisitive or enquiring minds who may be swayed in a vote.

Didn’t someone in the government verify this yet?

Get real. As a rule, when have government employees earned the definition of responsible trust? Even four of the Supreme Court Justices unscrupulously submit altered information in order to get the decision that they want.

As it is, I tend to think of this the way Newt thinks of the “inexperience” argument — a sure loser, and a waste of resources in how it distracts from Obama’s true weak point, his strident liberalism. It’s like Grover Norquist’s “Kerry with a tan” remark: Even if you think there’s nothing wrong with it, all it ends up doing is sidetracking you from more persuasive arguments. So let’s move on.

Amen, if it weren’t for fatigue and anger over eight years of Bush, this should be an easy election for most people: a far leftist from a lunatic anti-American milieu versus a conservative who has sometimes dared to break the mold and be moderate. Let’s keep this election on ideas and not “distractions”.

But that doesn’t matter, we should all just shut up, because we don’t want to, ‘reduce ourselves to their level.’ Right?

JannyMae on June 28, 2008 at 2:29 AM

Silence is deadly. Never give up one’s right to verbal redress. You are doing yeoman’s work here. You are uniquely wise in all matters related to birth certificates. Thank you for being you.

I think you are a brave person for standing up for your fellow Truthers on the right. Please post your photo so I can recognize you when you’re taking my order.

The Race Card on June 28, 2008 at 5:14 AM

You go JannyMae. I’m with you. The logic here that the Constitution is outdated on this issue may indeed be true. If so, amend it. That takes time, and if/when it happens, naturalized citizens with whatever other requirements they may throw in, can run for President. Until then, no way.

Who the hell knows where he was born, or what his birth certificate says. Try offering up a version like Obama is doing the next time you’re asked to produce one. Better yet, tell them the requirement just doesn’t make sense anymore, and you see no reason why you can’t just email them something. Or you could try calling the official asking for it a Truther–see how far you get.

Produce your goddamn birth certificate Obama, or piss off you arrogant prick. The law doesn’t apply any less to you– in fact, politicians are held to a higher standard than the rest.

It’s all about split allegiances. If someone were president who was born in Iceland . . however could we go to war with them. But seriously.

As for Bambi being born outside the U.S., he doesn’t need to be to hate America.

- The Cat

But that doesn’t matter, we should all just shut up, because we don’t want to, ‘reduce ourselves to their level.’ Right?

JannyMae on June 28, 2008 at 2:29 AM

Silence is deadly. Never give up one’s right to verbal redress. You are doing yeoman’s work here. You are uniquely wise in all matters related to birth certificates. Thank you for being you.

I think you are a brave person for standing up for your fellow Truthers on the right. Please post your photo so I can recognize you when you’re taking my order.

Sorry, but this is total bull. Embossing works by deforming the paper itself. Even the lightest impression would distort the pattern on both sides and a scan at 300 ppi (per the Kos version) often picks up more than you ordinarily see with the naked eye, not less.

kurtzz3 on June 27, 2008 at 8:25 PM

Perhaps. But perhaps what is on it has nothing to do with WHERE he was born???

BS. No human being does something without a reason. There is a REASON that Obama has not provided his original, certified birth document.

But that doesn’t matter, we should all just shut up, because we don’t want to, ‘reduce ourselves to their level.’ Right?

one can only assume that someone, sometime examined his birth certificate or else he’d never have gotten a U.S. passport.

kurtzz3 on June 27, 2008 at 8:25 PM

You are assuming his passport is from the USA. I haven’t seen it – has anybody? Sounds like it’s FOIA time. We need to see those visa stamp logs.

“Paging Condi – please pick up any white courtesy phone.”

And it isn’t about where he was born – it’s about where his brain considers home.