McCain on immigration reform: “I’m glad I did it”
posted at 1:16 pm on June 27, 2008 by Allahpundit
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Via Byron York. We know he’s planning to revisit the issue — the day after he’s inaugurated, no less — but the lack of remorse is news to me. What happened to that “lesson” he supposedly learned about securing the border first?
College betting is obviously an interstate commerce issue
(So Nevada should not have the right to have sports betting?)
The issue has been dead for years
(Despite your efforts, and I thought you were running on effectiveness, so how can it be dead?)
I haven’t won on every issue. I didn’t win on immigration reform, but I’ll go back at it. And I’m glad I did it.
Watch the Meet the Press clip linked up top to remind yourself of how uncomfortable he was, even when he was spouting garbage about having learned his lesson, with saying that he’d veto his crap amnesty bill if it landed on his desk as president. He succeeded in dodging the question entirely with Russert, in fact, but was finally badgered into saying that he’d veto it — almost en passant — at the Reagan Library debate three days later. It comes right at the beginning here, around 35 seconds in. Exit question: Why on earth would he feel compelled to say he’s glad he pushed for a bill that the base hates with a nuclear passion? I understand he has to walk a tightrope between Latino voters and border-enforcement conservatives, but that’s precisely my point: This isn’t how you behave on a tightrope. This is him flipping the bird to amnesty opponents. What gives?
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Just write in Palin. She at least sent troops to the Border to get the fence started.
upinak on June 27, 2008 at 1:17 PM
nb4 MB4
carbon_footprint on June 27, 2008 at 1:18 PM
Thats why we love him, he knows he is always right. :(
ctmom on June 27, 2008 at 1:18 PM
so explain again why we should vote for him?? someone this stubborn and arrogant has no business in such a powerful office. he doesnt realize we elect people to govern, not rule! capitol hill phone system was shut down last year by people calling and faxing and emailing their opposition to illegal immigrant amnesty but he still insists we have to do it.
him changing his views on drilling were making re-think that i could vote for him. however this kind of hubris makes so mad i may just vote for obama to spite this pig-headed SOB!
chasdal on June 27, 2008 at 1:19 PM
The IDIOT we brought to the dance…
jake-the-goose on June 27, 2008 at 1:19 PM
Everyday, it’s one step forward and one step back with McCain. Whenever he does something I like (such as openly saying what a lousy president Carter was), he manages to negate it by saying something stupid like this.
thirteen28 on June 27, 2008 at 1:20 PM
Cue sycophants in 5..4..3..
spmat on June 27, 2008 at 1:20 PM
It’s the two-for-one theory, which I can’t remember where I read.
If he gets a Latino vote, it’s a twofer: one less vote for Bambi, one more vote for him. If he loses a bitter, clining, xenophobic right-wing hater vote, it’s only one vote: the bitter clinger is not going to vote for Bambi no matter what.
Same with his global warming crap.
misterpeasea on June 27, 2008 at 1:22 PM
He’s not walking a tightrope. His entire campaign promise is ‘I’m not Obama’. Issues don’t matter. He’s not Obama.
ThackerAgency on June 27, 2008 at 1:23 PM
dont be so sure. we bitter clingers can only be pushed so far. right now he raised got my hackles raised like i cant believe. if i were to have to go vote today it would be better than 50-50 i’d pull the obambi lever.
chasdal on June 27, 2008 at 1:24 PM
see how bad it is? 2nd sentence in my previous post makes no sense! im so mad i cant type!
chasdal on June 27, 2008 at 1:25 PM
Two things will sink him badly. One is if Obama suddenly opts for drilling in ANWR and the other is how he handles his La Raza speech. He’s sounding waaaay overconfident. I also think Obama will present better in any debates, even with lousy positions.
a capella on June 27, 2008 at 1:27 PM
I think it’s ego and legacy. He - and all the other members of congress who support it - wants to go down in the history books as the modern day Lincoln who “freed” the brown minority group.
I wonder if Lincoln would be shocked at the percentage of blacks who vote, vote democrat?
BowHuntingTexas on June 27, 2008 at 1:29 PM
I’m not sure I follow where saying “I’m glad I did it” is incompatible with remorse. His remorse is that he didn’t see it turning out the way that it did. But he’s glad he tried to address the problem, glad that he engaged in a bi-partisan effort.
I joined the Navy after graduating from college. I hated it for most of the time I was in, but I’m glad I did it.
connertown on June 27, 2008 at 1:29 PM
When John McCain lies to us he acts as if we are the bad guy for putting him in a position to have to lie.
Zetterson on June 27, 2008 at 1:30 PM
He’s an asshole.
Bugler on June 27, 2008 at 1:31 PM
Maybe with the SCOTUS rulings of late, he thinks conservatives will vote for him because of Judges.
SCGOPgirl on June 27, 2008 at 1:31 PM
The cheerleaders are going to have their hands full with this one.
misterpeasea on June 27, 2008 at 1:31 PM
Obama tacks right, McCain tacks left. Voters get smashed.
JiangxiDad on June 27, 2008 at 1:33 PM
Thus is the true essence of his Maverick-ism. You damn people who elected me to office are too damn stupid to know what’s good for you, so I’mma gonna govern any damn way I please.
World B. Free on June 27, 2008 at 1:34 PM
Hmm. That makes sense. Argh!
NTWR on June 27, 2008 at 1:34 PM
Stupid plan, conservatives are the people who donate and volunteer, and his organization is woefully understaffed and underfunded as is. Pissing conservatives off even more makes them abandon him fully, and Obama simply overruns McCain with his superior organization and funding.
McCain cannot afford to throw the middle finger to conservatives like this if he actually wants to win, as much as McCainiacs and Fall-in-Line people want it to be so. His supporters and handlers are going to need to put a muzzle on Maverick if you want to see him stand a prayer against Obama.
doubleplusundead on June 27, 2008 at 1:34 PM
I think you’re hearing things. He said (1) that the bill would not come to a vote in the Senate, and (2) on account of that he would not vote for it. McCain left a lot of wiggle room for himself on this issue with his response here, and “amnesty” opponents who heard this as a condemnation of his previous bill were probably fooling themselves.
Big S on June 27, 2008 at 1:38 PM
And it’s not just the Republican base. Those Reagan Democrats don’t take this issue so lightly, either.
He has the same noblesse oblige that Bush has. He likes the illegals better than conservatives.
You know, I am on record as saying that I won’t vote for him, but occasionally I think I could change my mind. And then … a few weeks ago when he said this would be a Day-One issue, I am reminded of how small this man really is.
BigD on June 27, 2008 at 1:40 PM
Geez you guys are on a hair trigger and AP knows exactly how to set you off. Guess traffic must be flagging again or something.
There is absolutely nothing in the stray comment that’s any different from anything McCain has said for many months now. Why shouldn’t he be glad that he pushed immigration reform. It gave him a chance to hear from all of you wonderful, thoughtful, and polite people about all of your wonderful, thoughtful, and positive alternative solutions, leading him to improve his position in critical respects.
But if what you’re waiting for is for him to lick the bottoms of your filthy boots and beg for your forgiveness, you’re going to be waiting a long, long time.
CK MacLeod on June 27, 2008 at 1:40 PM
Found it. Weekly Standard, via MM.
Mudcat, who describes himself as “an old-timey Democrat: pro-gun, pro-God, pro fiscal conservatism,” is tired of teaching remedial Mudcat Math to deaf ears in his own party. It can be distilled as The Twofer Strategy: If you get a rural white voter who otherwise would have voted for McCain to switch to Obama, his vote is worth twice as much as a vote from your standard “liberal pinko commie” or your MTV Rock-the-Voter, since Obama not only accrues one vote for himself, but also takes one away from McCain. Campaigns that court the base while ignoring voters who could be won over are “hunting squirrels they’ve already killed.”
misterpeasea on June 27, 2008 at 1:40 PM
McCain reminds us what a lousy president Carter was, and he also reminds us what a louse president HE will be.
redrock on June 27, 2008 at 1:40 PM
That’s fine spin, but per the MTP clip, the whole thrust of McCain’s rhetoric about this in January was that he’d learned a lesson that border enforcement had to come first. If that’s so, it’s simply incoherent that he’d be “glad” he backed his original bill. It’s cost him hugely with conservatives and it accomplished nothing in practical terms.
Allahpundit on June 27, 2008 at 1:41 PM
Iraq, Iran, military funding, off-shore drilling, judges, wasteful spending, no socialized health care, not backing out of the successful missile shield…
Feel free.
amerpundit on June 27, 2008 at 1:41 PM
He dodged the question. He bobbed, he weaved and reluctantly gave a weak reason for why he would veto his own bill. In other words he lied and then told people what they needed to hear. Straight talk?
Zetterson on June 27, 2008 at 1:41 PM
Like the Scorpion, it’s in his nature. He can’t help himself.
MB4 on June 27, 2008 at 1:42 PM
McCain’s campaign motto (suitable for a cardboard sign): “Will blow for votes”
TexasJew on June 27, 2008 at 1:42 PM
You’re glad? Good. That’s why you’re going to lose, you seditious ass.
MadisonConservative on June 27, 2008 at 1:42 PM
Would love to see what Mr. Mudcat has to say about campaigns that seem to get their jollys out of proactively alienating the base (and especially on an issue like this, where his approach is unlikely to win over many independents).
thirteen28 on June 27, 2008 at 1:43 PM
HELP PICK LETTUCE AT $50 PER HOUR FOR SENATOR JOHN McCAIN
MB4 on June 27, 2008 at 1:45 PM
SECOND LOOK AT OBAMA!
Allahpundit on June 27, 2008 at 1:45 PM
So in short, “I’m glad I did it” = “I don’t care about Conservatives”
He simply temporarily appeased them in order to get through the Republican primary. Awesome.
Zetterson on June 27, 2008 at 1:45 PM
Hey, I’ll play with the sharks!
I don’t like his position on amnesty, but why does everyone jump into the ’star-chamber’ crap everytime he opens his mouth and says something they disagree with?
McCain has placed a political bet (OMG he is a politician).
He has bet on comprehensive immigration reform to gain votes that will outweigh the loss of the fence folks. It really is that simple. I disagree with him on both the reform and the strategy.
I’ll still stick with him. Yes I am compromising. My reasoning is that it will be easier to fix the mistakes of the McCain years then the Obama years. Right now I only give us about a 35% chance of pulling him pulling this off.
Limerick on June 27, 2008 at 1:45 PM
Not a shot in you know where. He’s just as bad on the issue and much worse on others.
amerpundit on June 27, 2008 at 1:46 PM
Didn’t Obama do the same with libs re: NAFTA? Quite a choice we have this year. Two liars.
Allahpundit on June 27, 2008 at 1:46 PM
Perhaps, it says more about the people that NUCLEAR over this issue than it does about John McCain.
terryannonline on June 27, 2008 at 1:46 PM
Quite so, but if he tempers his rhetoric he can pick up some of those fence folks too. Hence my point in the post: Why antagonize people needlessly?
Allahpundit on June 27, 2008 at 1:47 PM
These are all great reasons. To vote for Republicans for Congress. Except, maybe, Iraq and Iran.
Bambi is already backtracking on Iraq, and the Democrats won’t want to take the blame for surrender themselves. We aren’t going to attack Iran no matter who is President, and Israel will attack them no matter who is President.
Why vote for McCain, again?
misterpeasea on June 27, 2008 at 1:47 PM
*biggest sigh evah*
Look….McCain has said the border must be secure first, before we do anything about illegal immigrants. Pure, simple, and right on. I still would love to know what the McCain-deranged as it applies to immigration would recomend we do with 12-20 million illegals here. Deport the all?
‘Cause that’s not even remotely realistic.
I’m the “base”…and I totally agree with McCain so far. But some of my fellow conservatives will keep up the “McShamnesty” crud, yet not offer any solution to the problem as they would like to see it done.
JetBoy on June 27, 2008 at 1:47 PM
I wish that you all would stop ragging on John McCain.
He is a visionary man who is looking out for us all.
He knows that our economy would fall apart if we did not have hardworking Amigos from the south to pick our sacred lettuce, doing the job that lazy Americans would not even do for $50 an hour.
He also knows, what apparently none of you do, that lettuce is a wonder plant.
Someday soon a cure for cancer will be found from an extract from lettuce.
Someday soon highly fermented lettuce will power all our cars.
Someday soon lettuce reactor plants will provide all of our
electricity.
A derivative from lettuce may even hold the cure for old age!!!
And the thing is folks that only hard working Amigos from the south know how to pick lettuce in just the right and loving way to keep it from losing all of these magical properties.
Have you hugged a head of lettuce today?
Have you sent Senator John McCain a nice card letting him know just how much you appreciate him?
Think about it.
MB4 on June 27, 2008 at 1:48 PM
Pardon me for going nuclear. But whether that’s true or not, there are plenty of conservatives he needs who do go nuclear over this. Which makes his gratuitous statement about how glad he is to be an amnesty shill very, very, very stupid, whether you agree with it or not.
Allahpundit on June 27, 2008 at 1:48 PM
I though McCain made it clear, in talking about the “lesson” he learned, that he does not necessarily favor building a wall (or whatever) before dealing with the rest of the immigration issues, although he now realizes that that’s what many people want. It’s not inconsistent to be proud of former failed and/or unpopular things he has done, although it might not be the most politically astute thing to say. Who knows, though; maybe the McCain campaign has info that we don’t on the popularity of comprehensive reform. Outside the anti-”amnesty” industry, the issue has largely faded from peoples’ minds.
Big S on June 27, 2008 at 1:50 PM
McCain says, “We all know the American people want the border secured.”
He now adds, “For all I care, the American people can go f themselves.”
snaggletoothie on June 27, 2008 at 1:50 PM
Haha. Yeah, it clearly isn’t his style. But McCain camp ought to take note that he has to mention the wall, every time, in the same breath as immig. reform.
Is that too much to ask for his precious tongue?
JiangxiDad on June 27, 2008 at 1:51 PM
Bingo.
Zetterson on June 27, 2008 at 1:51 PM
And they’ll still be a minority with most likely little-to-no ability to stop Obama’s agenda. McCain polls better than Republican Congressional candidates and he even has an uphill battle. Let’s also not forget that we had to fight tooth and nail to get our “Republicans” to vote against amnesty and many/most of the same people will get back in this year.
That won’t stop them from leaving. They’re simply changing the narrative to “We’re doing so well, it’s ready for our troops to leave!” from “We’re doing so badly, it’s time for our troops to leave!”.
It’s not even a matter of attacking Iran. It’s a matter of sitting down with them unconditionally and legitimizing them.
Besides those issues? “military funding, off-shore drilling, judges, wasteful spending, no socialized health care, not backing out of the successful missile shield…”
amerpundit on June 27, 2008 at 1:52 PM
Also, to all the would-be Geraldos here, I can do without the “filthy boots” cracks, too.
Allahpundit on June 27, 2008 at 1:52 PM
If u don’t want to vote for McCain, then go freaking vote for Obama. All this whining really pisses me off. If Obama is closer in ideology to you, then go vote for him.
You people really need to get over urselves.
Chudi on June 27, 2008 at 1:54 PM
Well, first of all I agree that he shot himself in the foot.
I believe that he believes in the middle road, that most Americans ‘just-want-to-get-along’. The Lieberman victory, I think, sealed that into stone for McCain.
Limerick on June 27, 2008 at 1:54 PM
Is “immigration reform” really the hugest issue on so many minds? Doesn’t the war, the economy, energy, etc trump whether or not Rosarita the cleaning lady has her papers in order?
Just sayin’…
JetBoy on June 27, 2008 at 1:54 PM
I’m sorry I don’t buy it. During the primary the people voted for HIM. They could have voted for the other guys that tried to outdo themselves on who sounds tougher on immigration. The voters knew his position on immigration was and they didn’t care.
terryannonline on June 27, 2008 at 1:55 PM
That’s pure bullsh!t. Many have offered the solution, and many states and municipalities are trying to enact some of them at their respective levels. And lo and behold, it has actually worked for them.
If the federal government would follow suit, building a wall at the border to keep the illegals out and enforce its own laws in the interior, that would be more than enough solution to the problem. Most of the illegals would simply self-deport, and our borders would be secure.
It’s the “can’t do” mentality of the supporters of unfettered illegal immigration that has led to our current mess, not the inability to offer solutions by those that would like to see something done about it.
thirteen28 on June 27, 2008 at 1:56 PM
There is no tightrope. Latino voters are voting for Obama, just as they voted for Kerry and Gore and Clinton and every Democrat back to the beginning. They have never voted Republican and they never will.
This is not some clever piece of political stategy to pick up Latino votes. He’s not going to pick up any Latino votes. He’s doing this because he’s an obsessive ideologue, which is the opposite of a conservative.
flenser on June 27, 2008 at 1:56 PM
+1
They still think the GOP primaries aren’t over yet.
JetBoy on June 27, 2008 at 1:56 PM
Just one of the reasons he’s going to lose this Fall.With McCain only getting very little of the Hispanic vote anyway he should have made a STRONG border security position and say he learned his lesson.Theres a lot of voters like myself and rural conservative democratic voters he could have gained instead those people will probably go Obama and people like myself,family and friends will not cast a presidential vote and instead vote down ballot.Oh well let him pander for the Hispanic vote but every time he does it costs him votes with other people.
PTN 39 on June 27, 2008 at 1:57 PM
OT: I’m looking for a quotation in which some famous philosopher talks about how, as soon as the masses realize they can vote money out of other people’s pockets, a democracy is doomed. Anyone know who that is and where I can find the quote?
aero on June 27, 2008 at 1:57 PM
BAD ALLAH BAD! No cookie for you!
upinak on June 27, 2008 at 1:59 PM
no one is upset that he is glad he did it. we are upset that “I’ll go back at it”.
chasdal on June 27, 2008 at 2:00 PM
Whopideedoo! So, he’ll secure the border BEFORE he gives amnesty to 20 million lawbreakers. Whew! I feel better.
Enforcement through attrition. Guess what, it’s actually working. Right now. Pour it on and it will mostly take care of itself.
But in case you need specifics:
English only
Deport any illegal caught
Not allow residences to rent to illegals
SEVERELY punish businesses to employ illegals
No illegals in schools
No welfare for illegals
Free rides back to the border.
Darksean on June 27, 2008 at 2:00 PM
God, you people are dense.
Immigration is a far bigger issue then your silly war, or the economy, or energy. Immigration determines what US policy will be on all these issues, in fact on every issue.
How can you people cry yourselves to sleep every night at the thought of Obama becoming president, while yawning with indifference as the country is populated with people who favor Obamas policies?
How?
flenser on June 27, 2008 at 2:00 PM
Dude! Enforce the damn law. How about we start by not paying for their schooling, healthcare, housing, food, taxes, etc. How about that? Once they realize they aren’t getting all this free sh*t paid for by you and I they will pack up and go home. We have seen that work before. It will always work.
Jeesh, this is not complicated and its very tiring explaining the same crap to the same people arguing the same “straw men” all of the time.
Zetterson on June 27, 2008 at 2:01 PM
I bet you still believe in Santa Clause too.
flenser on June 27, 2008 at 2:01 PM
He just does not know when to shut up.
TBinSTL on June 27, 2008 at 2:01 PM
I don’t think it is. I’ve linked collections of polls many times here, in which about half (or more) of respondents were receptive to McCain-style immigration reforms, with legalization, “path to citizenship”, and all that. Many such polls were conducted in the fall of 2007, when the controversy was fresher in peoples’ minds, and guys like Mitt Romney were running ads accusing opponents like McCain and Rudy Giuliani of being “soft” on immigration. The issue was a big one among the small number of people who voted in the Republican primaries, but not big enough to defeat one of the architects of the 2007 bill, or push Tom Tancredo or Duncan Hunter past 1% in the primaries. It won’t be a big issue in the general election either, since (a) neither candidate wants it to be, and (b) there are much larger and more immediate problems on voters’ minds.
Big S on June 27, 2008 at 2:02 PM
Don’t you understand, AP? You’re one of us irrational, unreasonable, fithy-boot-wearing, raaaciiiiists.
All controlled by Congress, no matter who is President.
This meme is getting old. They will deport, and are deporting, themselves.
misterpeasea on June 27, 2008 at 2:02 PM
Allahpundit on June 27, 2008 at 1:41 PM
AP, does the word “schizophrenic” seem like an appropriate description of McCain’s policy statements in general?
Every one of them:
Free Market vs. “obscene profits”
Offshore drilling vs ANWR
Lower gas prices vs Carbon Credits
“Learned his lesson on immigration reform” vs “I love McCain-Kennedy and will put it right back on track”
Borders first vs Screw the border
National security vs Z visas for drug gang members
Strong on WOT vs Anti-Guantanamo
Patriotic stances vs Speaking to and thus legitimizaing La Raza - a seditious, antisemitic and racist organization that wants to forcibly kick non-hispanic men, women and children out of the Southwestern states
I’m a real conservative vs I hate real conservatives
I want conservative justices vs “But not Scalia or Thomas”
If this isn’t schizophrenic, it’s the most disingenuous collection of sleazy crap that I have ever seen from a candidate. ASnd I include the Clintons and their minions.
I’m a petroleum geologist and his recent flip-flops and inconsistencies on just the oil industry and associated exploration issues are giving me whiplash..
TexasJew on June 27, 2008 at 2:03 PM
Sure, it worked for a couple of states. Lots of illegals simple went to a neighboring state. Problem solved? Nope.
True, laws have been on the books for a long time on how to deal with illegals. But for decades, we’ve turned a blind eye. We don’t NEED new laws. And even though I agree that a wall should be built, I don’t think even McCain will accomplish it, nor anyone else. In all reality. But, no matter what we do, illegals most certainly will not “self-deport”. It’s always better here than at home…why do you think they’re here in the first place? And also…a BIG also…so many illegals here didn’t jump the fene at the Mexican border. They came here quite legally…and overstayed their visas. So no wall would have, nor probably will, end illegals here.
JetBoy on June 27, 2008 at 2:04 PM
So you don’t mind being blatantly lied to?? You’re ok with that? Doesn’t matter? Oh well? Ho hum?
Zetterson on June 27, 2008 at 2:05 PM
aero — I wasn’t a famous philosopher. It was one of the founding fathers. Wish I could remember which.
No, I don’t need to get over myself. I’ll vote for whoever I want, for whatever reason I choose, In spite of all the moral superiority or deeper understanding you try to fake.
snaggletoothie on June 27, 2008 at 2:05 PM
Guys, lighten up on McCain. His expression of “gladness” was merely “inartful” and doesn’t really express just how much he’s “learned his lesson.”
BARF.
innominatus on June 27, 2008 at 2:05 PM
Sorry. Know exactly what you mean though, but not who said it. On the same topic, RedPill once provided this link about the limits of Democracy as seen by Plato.
JiangxiDad on June 27, 2008 at 2:05 PM
It is the same on this side of the wall, Zett. We all have made up our minds on this immigration issue and I don’t believe that at this point anyone is willing to move. That is why these boards get so heated lately.
Limerick on June 27, 2008 at 2:06 PM
Devastating…
Darksean on June 27, 2008 at 2:06 PM
No, it says more about McClown. The people decide policy in our system, not some senile old fool who imagines he is our ruler.
flenser on June 27, 2008 at 2:06 PM
Except A) The president can veto legislation, B) There is an executive order on much of the domestic exploration. A President Obama isn’t going to veto most of the Democratic-controlled Congress’ legislation and he’s not going to lift the executive order.
amerpundit on June 27, 2008 at 2:06 PM
I think we, more so than he, will learn our lesson about nominating crappy candidates when we wake up that next grim morning in November
TexasJew on June 27, 2008 at 2:08 PM
Perhaps, but one side wants to enforce the law and ensure taxpayer money goes Americans. The other side endorses lawbreaking on a cataclysmic scale.
So for my money, I’m on the correct side of the argument (let alone the right side).
Darksean on June 27, 2008 at 2:09 PM
I give up….again.
There’s two, count ‘em TWO…Obama and McCain, one of which WILL be the next President.
You wanna blast McCain’s immigration policies? Better get him in office first.
‘Cause you all stand no chance with President Obama.
JetBoy on June 27, 2008 at 2:10 PM
They most certainly will, and are.
You’re going to have to give this one up.
misterpeasea on June 27, 2008 at 2:10 PM
He’s a meglomania?
Blake on June 27, 2008 at 2:10 PM
captivated_dem on June 27, 2008 at 2:10 PM
Big S, as somebody who plainly thinks immigration is no big deal, perhaps you can explain why you think that.
And I don’t mean any polls. I mean explain why you think immigration has not and is not making this country into the sort of place where Obama will be a centerist.
There is a huge disconnect between the policies the McCain supporters say they care about, and the results of the immigration policy they are indifferent to.
flenser on June 27, 2008 at 2:11 PM
Try implementing it nationwide. Let’s see where they go when the policy that forces them into another state is implemented in all 50.
That’s a fraction of the problem. A very large chunk came across the border and if you could stop that, you’d be making a huge step.
amerpundit on June 27, 2008 at 2:11 PM
Did you actually graduate from high school? Can you only count to two?
flenser on June 27, 2008 at 2:12 PM
Or, alternatively, I could blast his immigration policies, but still vote for him because he’s the better of the two.
amerpundit on June 27, 2008 at 2:12 PM
Some did, some went home. Try it nationwide - then they will go to a neighboring country - their own.
You are a master of the obvious. You do know that “building a wall at the border to keep the illegals out and enforce its own laws in the interior” falls under the umbrella of existing laws, don’t you?
And while were on the subject, we most certainly don’t need a new law that grants 12-20 million illegals, if not more, instant amnesty.
The evidence strongly suggests the contrary, in case after case.
Also, if the choice is between staying here and not eating, or going home and eating, I’m guessing they will choose the latter. Human beings seem to have this tendency to choose “eating” over “starving,” a few political hunger strikers excepted.
Gee, do you think that might be a big symptom of a lack of will to enforce existing laws? Has that thought ever run through your head?
The “can’t do” attitude, on full display.
thirteen28 on June 27, 2008 at 2:12 PM
Oh and Mitt Romney and Fred Thompson would have swept in November? Riiiight.
terryannonline on June 27, 2008 at 2:13 PM
Who do you want blamed for this crap? Bambi and the Democrats, or Juan and the Republicans? Who do you want punished for this crap?
misterpeasea on June 27, 2008 at 2:14 PM
Most are not as mature as you.
Squid Shark on June 27, 2008 at 2:14 PM
None of our options were really terrific.
amerpundit on June 27, 2008 at 2:14 PM
Okay, so with all that he has said about his stupid CIR bill from the time he “introduced” it to the present day, where does John McCain stand? He is proud of a bill, that he recognized, during the primaries, as neither practical nor desired (the import of “lessons learned”), and yet is going to revisit that bill once in office. Straight talk indeed.
Dead on.
Weight of Glory on June 27, 2008 at 2:14 PM
Honestly there’s nothing in McCain’s statement that I find alarming. Why can’t he be glad he worked on immigration reform? He loves his job. And nothing in his statement reads like he’s going back on his “learned his lesson” statement. Just relax, people, this isn’t a crisis.
ZP on June 27, 2008 at 2:17 PM
On their own? Perhaps not. Compared to McCain? You bet.
MadisonConservative on June 27, 2008 at 2:18 PM
Argh!
I don’t want anybody “blamed” or “punished”…I want the best, most qualified man to be the next POTUS. You make the call….Obama? Or McCain…
All things considered, the choice is clear to me. All your McDerangement will mean absolutely nothing if the man doesn’t get elected.
JetBoy on June 27, 2008 at 2:18 PM
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