Put Gitmo detainees where?
posted at 9:30 am on June 26, 2008 by Ed Morrissey
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Not Fort Leavenworth, as both Kansas Senators made plain yesterday in a letter to their colleagues. Sam Brownback and Pat Roberts push back against the oft-repeated suggestion that the US can relocate the detainees at Guantanamo Bay to the detention barracks of Leavenworth, declaring the facility unfit for such a mission on several levels. The only place that meets security conditions won’t work because of its civilian mission:
In a Senate-wide appeal, two Kansas senators released a letter Wednesday urging fellow lawmakers to abandon a bipartisan idea of moving at least some Guantanamo detainees to Fort Leavenworth, the Kansas Army base that houses the military’s largest prison facility.
The letter puts Sens. Sam Brownback and Pat Roberts, both Republicans, squarely at odds with their party’s presumptive presidential cnadidate, John McCain, who has told numerous interviewers in recent months that he favors closing Guantanamo and moving the detainees to Fort Leavenworth.
“Not all prisons are created equal,” Brownback and Roberts wrote in their appeal. The prison facility at Fort Leavenworth “is not equipped to perform this mission.”
Members of Congress from both parties have long suggested Fort Leavenworth as an alternative to the sprawling prison camp compound in Guantanamo, which today holds 270 war-on-terror captives.
Both presidential candidates have made clear their desire to close Gitmo, and John McCain has specified Leavenworth as a potential destination. Barack Obama has been less specific, but has implied that the terrorists would get transferred to an American military compound once Gitmo closes. However, even the commander of Fort Leavenworth — the top of the line for military detention facilities — declares it unfit, which calls into question whether any place exists in the military system within the US.
Leavenworth houses those convicted of serious crimes while in uniform, but these prisoners are not considered nationa-security risks. The prison has the normal maximum-security safeguards against escape and breakout, but not against the kind of terrorist risk the detainees pose. Leavenworth also doesn’t have the room nor the extra personnel needed to secure the terrorists. The commander also objects to keeping foreign terrorists in close proximity to the American military prisoners already housed there.
Another consideration is medical care. Leavenworth usually transports its prisoners to the hospital in the city, as it lacks medical facilities on the base. Do we want terrorists to get carted out of prison and through American cities to get CAT scans? The potential for escape or sabotage should keep Leavenworth off the list entirely.
So where can we put them? The Supermax facility in Colorado is much more suited to the task, but it’s a federal detention facility, not military. Prisoners cannot be held there without being convicted of a crime, which would add even more legal complications to their detention. Congress would have to pass legislation to allow it, and the Supreme Court could ignore it just as it did with Boumediene.
Roberts and Brownback have invited the Senate to take a tour of Leavenworth to see the problems inherent in such a transfer. Perhaps McCain and Obama should make sure they accept that invitation.
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Surely, with proper free counseling, they can be reformed to become productive US non-citizens.
connertown on June 26, 2008 at 12:24 PM
I so hope that the libs who want to close Gitmo will volunteer to take at least one terrorist captive into there own homes on house arrest with an ankle braclet.
swampy on June 26, 2008 at 12:28 PM
Here’s a simple solution.
Release them to the personal recognizance of any Congressman or Senator who wants them. The legislator will be personally responsible for the poor maligned freedom fighters until their trial begins.
Nancy, how many would you like? Don’t make them molder in some inhumane military prison. Feel their pain and do something to make it all better. Nancy? Nancy?
lonesomecharlie on June 26, 2008 at 12:31 PM
Yucca has come up a couple of times, and it reminds me of an acronym I like even better than NIMBY- BANANA. Build Absolutely Nothing Anywhere Near Anything.
As a previous poster noted, it’s becoming obvious why Bush did what he did with Gitmo. Put them in Leavenworth- no wait, that won’t work. Alcatraz? No… Hey, how about Gitmo? We have space there….
cs89 on June 26, 2008 at 1:15 PM
Move em to McMurdo. “Go ahead escape, I won’t stop ya.”
- The Cat
MirCat on June 26, 2008 at 1:25 PM
Put those terrorists in a blue state since they are the proponents of giving more rights to enemy combatants. Right? I suggest Chicago…
mariloubaker on June 26, 2008 at 1:54 PM
Isn’t French Guiana available?
TexasDan on June 26, 2008 at 2:28 PM
Good grief, that’s an easy one. Why not send ALL Gitmo detainees to San Francisco/Berkeley, or senator Dick Durban’s Chicago. Code Pinkos would no doubt be gushing pink to give aid and comfort to them.
byteshredder on June 26, 2008 at 2:50 PM
Our presumptive presidential candidates want to vote the detainees off the island from Guantanamo when in fact the island itself provides an extra layer of security in preventing escape. Fools.
onlineanalyst on June 26, 2008 at 3:29 PM
Alcatraz. So Nancy could stare at ‘em across the bay.
cthulhu on June 26, 2008 at 3:39 PM
I think Alcatraz is a good idea. Put more sharks in the water. Just in case.
I think McCain wanted to close Gitmo because he felt that if there was not some alternative place to put them, a Democrat would just shut the place down and turn them lose. But that is the problem. No one wants these people, even their home countries.
Terrye on June 26, 2008 at 3:45 PM
Isn`t that what Gitmo is?!
ThePrez on June 26, 2008 at 3:49 PM
Maybe we could build a new detention facility, replete with its own courthouse and luxury accomodations for visiting defense attorneys, in ANWR.
Blacklake on June 26, 2008 at 4:35 PM
Give them all their 72 virgins.
Corsair on June 26, 2008 at 4:37 PM
Second look at Alcatraz?
(fixed it) ;-)
clark smith on June 26, 2008 at 4:40 PM
foreign combatants, u r doin it rong.
kirkill on June 26, 2008 at 4:54 PM
Best if they go into the most liberal of cities. San Francisco, Boston, New York, or Seattle come to mind.
jukin on June 26, 2008 at 5:00 PM
Not the Gitmo Obama remembers!
jdkchem on June 26, 2008 at 5:15 PM
How about housing them in a General Motors plant that used to make SUVs but has been closed thanks to the Democrats and their $4 a gallon gas policy? I’m sure some of those UAW workers can be retrained as terrorist prison guards!
rockmom on June 26, 2008 at 5:39 PM
Don’t we have a base in Antarctica that would be perfect for housing terrorists?
Tantor on June 26, 2008 at 6:25 PM
Why stick Kansas with the problem? Send the lowlifes to a blue state. A modest proposal: build a new facility for the terrorists at the abandoned Coast Guard base on Governors’ Island in New York Harbor. It would be worth it just to see the sweaty reaction from Hillary, Chuckie Schumer and the rest of the rogues’ gallery of N.Y.’s pro-terrorist Democrats (e.g., Jerrold “I ate the whole thing” Nadler). Added benefit: there could be supervised visits to sample Manhattan’s nightlife, cultural attractions and fine restaurants, as mandated by Justice Kennedy. It would also make it easier on the terrorists’ Communist/ACLU lawyers, the poor dears.
Travis Bickle on June 26, 2008 at 6:31 PM
As said by others here: Send them to “the Rock”!
Then again, it may be a security risk to have so many traitors sitting on the other side of the bay who’d actively try to break the captured insurgents out. But hey, it’s not like most San Franciscans do anything besides hold signs, yell loudly, or use a little spray paint anyway. My question though would be when the judges of the 9th Circuit Court frees the prisoners whether they’ll be let loose in San Francisco or not.
Send_Me on June 26, 2008 at 8:44 PM
If they are brought onto US soil the cries for civilian courts to try them will be much much louder! Leave ‘em there! I don’t want them on US continental soil!
Vntnrse on June 26, 2008 at 9:03 PM
Put em on those ice caps that are supposedly melting. Polar bears gotta eat, too.
Hollowpoint on June 26, 2008 at 9:33 PM
Wasn’t this covered on an episode of The Unit.
pc on June 26, 2008 at 9:44 PM
Can any of them mow lawns and lay sod?
BL@KBIRD on June 26, 2008 at 10:11 PM
The many sanctuary cities need to take in these poor, unfortunate victims of Amerikkkan hegemony. Let’s start with San Francisco.
Django on June 26, 2008 at 10:43 PM
The Supremes did leave open the possibility of moving them to another country. There is a new prison in Iraq being built to replace Abu Graib. How about there?
old_dawg on June 26, 2008 at 11:21 PM
lonesomecharlie on June 26, 2008 at 12:31 PM
The Supreme Court Justices who voted for their release into our Judicial system should take these terrorists into their own homes and personally provide complete room and board and security.
maverick muse on June 26, 2008 at 11:52 PM
I’m all for putting gitmo detainees in pelosi’s back yard.
Of course I’m kidding but geez, some of these people need a dose of reality.
diaphanous on June 27, 2008 at 5:20 AM
If they must be moved, send them to Phoenix. Juan can be the warden.
Zorro on June 27, 2008 at 6:35 AM
this close gitmo thing is crazy.
want to really inspire these imprisoned nut jobs to revolt, cause chaos
or even escape — put them within the interior of the U.S.A.
the current facility is perfect, unless appeasing the internationals is more important than our security.
Mc should get a real pair and rethink his short comings, fast.
jimmer on June 27, 2008 at 10:53 AM
Lets give McCain and every other person who wants Club Gitmo closed three or four to take home with them. They can employee them as staff, after all, they’re just doing jobs Americans won’t do.
Big Orange on June 27, 2008 at 11:52 AM
Roberts and Brownback have invited the Senate to take a tour of Leavenworth to see the problems inherent in such a transfer.
I’m sorry for being the cynic here, but don’t you all know the smell of pork by now? I’m sure that Mr. Brownback and Mr. Roberts could find it in their hearts to allow the transfer of these unique criminal, er alleged criminals, if there were some minor modifications made to this single-use prison. I’m sure the economic supplement, the creation of jobs, the need for several more permanent, civilian positions coul help them understand the need for these prisoners to be relocated there.
Gunslinger on June 27, 2008 at 11:57 AM
Pick lettuce for fifty bucks an hour you pigs! Take That!!!
Big Orange on June 27, 2008 at 12:05 PM
Every Senator voting to close Gitmo should have to take an equal # of Gitmo detainees home with him or her, and then they can explain their votes to their constituents.
james23 on June 27, 2008 at 12:56 PM
I recommend we take them all to the steps of the court and let them loose, preferably when the court is in session and in time for the evening news.
JIMV on June 27, 2008 at 6:28 PM
HMMM………letting these savages loose on the court room steps. Maybe giving an equal number of Club Gitmo “detainees” to each of the States… (50 States barry, not 57). …….. Alas,Its too simple a concept for politicans to grasp.
Rick554 on June 28, 2008 at 9:03 AM
I just keep wondering where those invisible prisons and fleets of secret black planes are when you need them.
Buzzy on June 28, 2008 at 11:50 AM
Place them Where?
Hah!
The Kennedy compound in Massachusetts.
No worries then!
old trooper on June 28, 2008 at 9:14 PM
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