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Obama on gun rights decision: “Much-needed guidance”; Video flashback: Obama supported D.C. ban; Video: Obama reacts to decision

posted at 1:42 pm on June 26, 2008 by Allahpundit
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Does he support it? Oppose it? Support it and oppose it, per his absurd, opportunistic reversals on the D.C. ban over the past eight months? I do believe this qualifies as tepid, cautious, qualified, “can we stop talking about this now?” approval:

I have always believed that the Second Amendment protects the right of individuals to bear arms, but I also identify with the need for crime-ravaged communities to save their children from the violence that plagues our streets through common-sense, effective safety measures. The Supreme Court has now endorsed that view, and while it ruled that the D.C. gun ban went too far, Justice Scalia himself acknowledged that this right is not absolute and subject to reasonable regulations enacted by local communities to keep their streets safe. Today’s ruling, the first clear statement on this issue in 127 years, will provide much-needed guidance to local jurisdictions across the country.

As President, I will uphold the constitutional rights of law-abiding gun-owners, hunters, and sportsmen. I know that what works in Chicago may not work in Cheyenne. We can work together to enact common-sense laws, like closing the gun show loophole and improving our background check system, so that guns do not fall into the hands of terrorists or criminals. Today’s decision reinforces that if we act responsibly, we can both protect the constitutional right to bear arms and keep our communities and our children safe.

Conspicuously left unsaid is whether he agrees with the actual holding that the D.C. ban went too far. That would give us some, um, “much-needed guidance” beyond the platitudes here about where he draws the line between the individual right and common-sense regulations. Also, like I said in the Heller thread, it’s true that there’s plenty of room in the opinion to make liberals comfortable with the ruling — witness the optimistic reactions from Pelosi, Bloomberg, and even Russ Feingold (who answers to a rural constituency in Wisconsin) — but I’m not sure it imagines any geographic distinctions per Obama’s Chicago/Cheyenne point. I’ll have to go back and read the whole thing, but the upshot seems to be that you have a right to a handgun or perhaps a rifle no matter where you live. If your jurisdiction wants to let you have more than that, fair enough; that’s where Chicago vs. Cheyenne would matter. But as a baseline right, that’s the bare minimum. Did anyone come across anything in their skimming that cuts against that?

Speaking of Chicago, here’s the only prominent Democrat in the country today willing to go on record as being pissed off. Exit question: This makes two prominent cases in two days where St. Barack’s been on the wrong side of the Court’s liberals. Does that portend anything for his Supreme Court appointments or is this just more crap dumped on top of the mountain of centrist shinola he’s shoveling lately to try to get elected?

Update: Excellent. Here’s the video of what Politico picked up on earlier — Obama nodding along in February as an interviewer reminds him that he supports the D.C. ban. Click the image to watch.

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Update: Fox Business asked him about the D.C. ban point blank in an interview this morning — and he dodged it again.


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In the land of Hope and Change we won’t ever need guns.

Everything will be perfect.

its vintage duh on June 26, 2008 at 1:45 PM

This is Distracting us from alot of Hoping and Changing…natch

SoCalInfidel on June 26, 2008 at 1:46 PM

“I know that what works in Chicago may not work in Cheyenne.”

Give this guy a drug test. It doesn’t work in Chicago. Crime rates are up. Maybe Obama should spend some time in Ill-noise to see exactly how much it doesn’t work.

Damn this guy is an idiot.

BobK on June 26, 2008 at 1:48 PM

Wonderful OB, now, do you have an opinion? Is the decision good … bad . . . don’t care? And this indecisive, pandering dolt wants to be president? Good lord, we’re in trouble.

rplat on June 26, 2008 at 1:49 PM

“I have always believed that the Second Amendment protects the right of individuals to bear arms keep disassembled revolvers in their closets…”

Akzed on June 26, 2008 at 1:49 PM

As President, I will uphold the constitutional rights of law-abiding gun-owners, hunters, and sportsmen. — Obama

He is already denying the decision, notice that he only mentions hunters and sportsmen but neglects to mention use/ownership of guns for self-defense.

Maxx on June 26, 2008 at 1:51 PM

Does that portend anything for his Supreme Court appointments or is this just more crap dumped on top of the mountain of centrist shinola he’s shoveling lately to try to get elected?

Rocky Mountain High. His SC appointments will make even Pelosi blush in embarrassment. If she still can.

a capella on June 26, 2008 at 1:52 PM

As a Marxist, BHO defies the Enlightenment or Reason.
BHO only feigns to rationally appreciate the Constitution. Anything to fool a fool. It’s too easy–we’re too easy.
The world wants to be deceived, so let it be deceived:
Mundus vult decipi, ergo decipiatur!

maverick muse on June 26, 2008 at 1:54 PM

In the dictionary under “wishy-washy” is the definition and his picture. If this buffoon gets into office our country is in big, big trouble.

UnEasyRider on June 26, 2008 at 1:55 PM

He is already denying the decision, notice that he only mentions hunters and sportsmen but neglects to mention use/ownership of guns for self-defense.

Maxx on June 26, 2008 at 1:51 PM

He always tiptoes very gingerly around the issue of government tyranny and the 2nd as applies to armed citizens. He may not be in favor of that part.:)

a capella on June 26, 2008 at 1:56 PM

We can work together to enact common-sense laws, like closing the gun show loophole and improving our background check system, so that guns do not fall into the hands of terrorists or criminals. Today’s decision reinforces that if we act responsibly, we can both protect the constitutional right to bear arms and keep our communities and our children safe. — Obama

Translation: Obama will do his best to ignore the decision of the Supreme Court today and continue to grab your guns anyway he can.

Maxx on June 26, 2008 at 1:57 PM

…so that guns do not fall into the hands of terrorists or criminals.

He said terrorists!

Is Obama fearmongering?

I have always believed that the Second Amendment protects the right of individuals to bear arms, but I also identify with the need for crime-ravaged communities to save their children from the violence that plagues our streets..

This clown really doesn’t get it.

I agree with Obama that criminals should not have guns. But, in an Obama presidency(gag), you would be considered a criminal if you ever got a speeding ticket, parking ticket, or jaywalked.

…and let’s not forget, once he outlaws guns, gunowners would, in turn be criminals too.

cntrlfrk on June 26, 2008 at 1:58 PM

Wonderful OB, now, do you have an opinion? Is the decision good … bad . . . don’t care? And this indecisive, pandering dolt wants to be president? Good lord, we’re in trouble.

rplat on June 26, 2008 at 1:49 PM

Did you just call him a tampon?

baldilocks on June 26, 2008 at 1:58 PM

Crime ravaged communities aren’t populated with law abiding NRA members but CRIMINALS who will always be able to get guns as long as they are legal to manufacture and I don’t ever see that being illegal. Not yet anyway.

DerKrieger on June 26, 2008 at 1:59 PM

more crap dumped on top of the mountain of centrist shinola

Sounds about right. Does shinola fall under the category of “hope” or “change”?

forest on June 26, 2008 at 1:59 PM

He just voted Present. Seems to be a pattern here………

rockmom on June 26, 2008 at 1:59 PM

Pandermania!

It’s the equivalent of less filling-tastes great!

swami on June 26, 2008 at 2:00 PM

We are already in the early stages of a tyrannical government. Just listen to Madame Pelosi lately on the Fairness Doctrine, energy, you name it she takes the socialist position. We may need all the armed citizens we can muster should Obama become POTUS and the Socialists incerase their majority significantly.

DerKrieger on June 26, 2008 at 2:01 PM

Would you racist bastards let the man finish his waffle?

Chuck Schick on June 26, 2008 at 2:01 PM

Update: Excellent. Here’s the video of what Politico picked up on earlier — Obama nodding along in February as an interviewer reminds him that he supports the D.C. ban. Click the image to watch.

I suspect some time tomorrow we’ll here Barry bravely announce:

“That is not the nod I once knew.”

Followed by “one of the most important” speeches the country has ever heard, about head movements and their meaning. Wardrobe, prepare Chris Matthews’ long johns, I feel a chill coming, and it’s headed straight for Chrissy’s leg!

RightWinged on June 26, 2008 at 2:02 PM

“I have always believed that the Second Amendment protects the right of individuals to bear arms keep disassembled revolvers in their closets…”
Akzed on June 26, 2008 at 1:49 PM

In locked cases with a trigger lock on and their ammo in a separate locked case in a separate room…

Besides, the guns criminals use to “terrorize neighborhoods” are largely illegal, unregistered, AK 47s weapons straight from China. Or otherwise illegally obtained.

NTWR on June 26, 2008 at 2:02 PM

My goodness, this guy is just providing McCain with a gold mine of stuff to use in the general. Will McCain take these golden opportunities, presented on a silver platter?

thirteen28 on June 26, 2008 at 2:02 PM

Sorry to go off-topic, but Jindal signed a castration bill into law yesterday. Sex offenders can be sentenced to castration — their choice of physical or chemical.

There’s a man that has balls, unlike Sen. Obama…or convicted sex offenders in Louisiana.

amerpundit on June 26, 2008 at 2:02 PM

In the video, what does BO mean by the “camels nose under the tent”?

I’m still laughing over that one.

swami on June 26, 2008 at 2:03 PM

Chump. The only thing worse than listening to Obama hem and haw and “uhhh uhhh uhhh” his way through yet another non-committal non-position is listening to his slack-jawed drooling supporters praise his blessed name for taking those positions. Or not taking them, whatever the case may be.

spmat on June 26, 2008 at 2:05 PM

“The camel’s nose under the tent” ??? I think Barack Hussein needs to watch his pharseology. I expected him to follow that up with, “And every household has the right to one AK47.”

Allah — your writing is better that usual today. The Supreme Court seems to get you excited and interested.

snaggletoothie on June 26, 2008 at 2:06 PM

amerpundit on June 26, 2008 at 2:02 PM

ACLU launches a “cruel & unusual” challenge with SCOTUS in 5…4…3…

LimeyGeek on June 26, 2008 at 2:06 PM

“camels nose under the tent”?

I’m still laughing over that one.

swami on June 26, 2008 at 2:03 PM

I haven’t used that phrase since I learned what a “camel toe” is

LimeyGeek on June 26, 2008 at 2:07 PM

amerpundit on June 26, 2008 at 2:02 PM

Oh man… oh man… if Jindal goes to war with the SCOTUS… boy oh boy…

spmat on June 26, 2008 at 2:08 PM

Obama’s testicles are in his wifes lock box.

This guy IS NOT a leader.

Obambi, if you oppose the decision, show us some stones and say so.

mylegsareswollen on June 26, 2008 at 2:09 PM

“I just threw the word inartful under the bus” ~ ~ Barack

Entelechy on June 26, 2008 at 2:10 PM

The Folly of Hope.

“It is natural to man to indulge in the illusions of hope. We are apt to shut our eyes against a painful truth—and listen to the song of that syren, till she transforms us into beasts.” —Patrick Henry

kirkill on June 26, 2008 at 2:11 PM

“No, no, I just threw my inartful statement on guns under the bus, just because I can throw anything away, or make it up, as I need to, or as I please. The media will understand and help me seel it” ~ ~ Barack

Entelechy on June 26, 2008 at 2:11 PM

In the video, what does BO mean by the “camels nose under the tent”?

I’m still laughing over that one.

swami on June 26, 2008 at 2:03 PM

I had to look it up. Seems it’s an old Arabian proverb:

“The camel’s nose is a metaphor for a situation where permitting some small undesirable situation will allow gradual and inexorable worsening.”

-slippery slope
-foot in the door
-domino effect

JiangxiDad on June 26, 2008 at 2:05 PM

JiangxiDad on June 26, 2008 at 2:12 PM

“I meant to say sell it”

Entelechy on June 26, 2008 at 2:12 PM

I found a video excerpt of Mayor Daley’s angry comments bashing the decision (excuse the ad at the beginning). Nothing’s up on YouTube yet. However, I’m curious if Obama will throw his Chicago political mentor under the bus.

Exurban Jon on June 26, 2008 at 2:13 PM

Does he support it? Oppose it?

Yes

Entelechy on June 26, 2008 at 2:14 PM

I had to look it up. Seems it’s an old Arabian proverb:

RAAAAACISSST!!!!

NTWR on June 26, 2008 at 2:14 PM

I predict the decision won’t help Michelle’s children.

kirkill on June 26, 2008 at 2:15 PM

is this just more crap dumped on top of the mountain of centrist shinola he’s shoveling lately to try to get elected?

I love it when allahpundit gets rhetorical.

saus on June 26, 2008 at 2:15 PM

Hey! We can’t hold Obama accountable; that would be raaacissst!

carbon_footprint on June 26, 2008 at 2:15 PM

“As President”…WTF is wrong with this guy, he really does think he is the Prez already. This guy seems more dangerous all the time.

Lunkinator on June 26, 2008 at 2:15 PM

the man of many faces

spacekicker on June 26, 2008 at 2:16 PM

We know of no other enumerated constitutional right whose core protection has been subjected to a freestanding “interest-balancing” approach [responding to Justice Breyer’s proposal for a new standard for the right to possess a gun]. The very enumeration of the right takes out of the hands of government – even the Third Branch of Government – the power to decide on a case-by-case basis whether the right is really worth [his emphasis] insisting upon. A constitutional guarantee subject to future judges’ assessments of its usefulness is no constitutional guarantee at all. Constitutional rights are enshrined with the scope they were understood to have when the people adopted them, whether or not future legislatures or (yes) even future judges think that scope is too broad. We would not apply an “interest-balancing” approach to the prohibition of a peaceful neo-Nazi march through Skokie… Like the First, it is the very product of an interest-balancing by the people – which Justice Breyer would now conduct for them anew.

The above quote is Scalia rejecting Breyer’s interest-balancing approach. [HT: NRO] This could be what Obama was hinting at with the Chicago/Cheyenne comment, that different community governments, and judges, could balance interests, and decide on how strict they wanted their gun control laws to be, depending on local interests and conditions. A Nazi march through Skokie would affect interests differently than a Nazi march through a community with no Jews, especially one with no Holocaust survivors.

Scalia may have been pointing out [it's been 30 years since I took Con Law, so I could be wrong] that this interest balancing could lead to a justification for banning handguns altogether [or banning Nazi marches altogether even if they met the "time, manner, place" criteria].

Scalia found there was a fundamental, constitutionally minimum right to have a functioning handgun in your home that no other interests could outweigh.

Wethal on June 26, 2008 at 2:16 PM

centrist shinola

There you go.

NOW this needs to get hammered by RNC, McCain, et al mercilessly.

This cannot be allowed to fall from the screen…

catmman on June 26, 2008 at 2:21 PM

I’m from D.C. originally (hey: it’s a pretty town, the locals are relaxed, and it’s youz guys all around the country who send us your crazy folk here!!!) and glad to hear of this change…finally.

That said, the video above has moved me so, that I can hardly keep calling BHO “The Obamboozler.” Even after having heard so much credibility-self-trashing and socialist nonsense come out of his mouth over the past few months, this video makes me dub him “The Ears” from now on.

Lockstein13 on June 26, 2008 at 2:22 PM

I’m disappointed, these are not the guns that I know…..

Dale in Atlanta on June 26, 2008 at 2:24 PM

I had to look it up. Seems it’s an old Arabian proverb:

“The camel’s nose is a metaphor for a situation where permitting some small undesirable situation will allow gradual and inexorable worsening.”

-slippery slope
-foot in the door
-domino effect

JiangxiDad on June 26, 2008 at 2:05 PM

I knew it meant something like that, but Arabian proverbs are taught in Kansas? Hawaii? Chicago? The Senate?

I’ve been around a while, I’ve never heard that one.

swami on June 26, 2008 at 2:25 PM

Sometimes a camel toe in one place will produce a tent in another.

mikeyboss on June 26, 2008 at 2:25 PM

Reading the closed captions for the last clip since I’m deaf, it’s intriguing just how often he repeats ‘individual right’ and ‘common sense’…

Absolutely no substance, just repeating himself again and and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again… …again and again… …

Yuck.

Vatican Watcher on June 26, 2008 at 2:28 PM

Does anyone, anyone, doubt that if this decision had come down in February when he was locked the primary battle with Lady MacBeth, that he would have excoriated the right wing Bush court and claim that it was a perfect example of why it was so important to nominate him?

At least this craven political streak that has shown up in him makes me think he’ll govern by polling rather than ramming liberal policies down against public opinion. So that’s something.

Dudley Smith on June 26, 2008 at 2:28 PM

Sometimes a camel toe in one place will produce a tent in another.

mikeyboss on June 26, 2008 at 2:25 PM

I must have missed something…im confused from this distraction

SoCalInfidel on June 26, 2008 at 2:28 PM

Speaking of Chicago, here’s the only prominent Democrat in the country today willing to go on record as being pissed off.

Dianne Feinstein has also criticized the decision, in the following terms:

“I am profoundly disappointed in Justice Roberts and Justice Alito, both of whom assured us of their respect for precedent. With this decision, 70 years of precedent has gone out the window. And I believe the people of this great country will be less safe because of it.”

I haven’t read the decision yet (157 pages — sheesh, I’ve got to try and get some billable work done today), so I don’t know what it says about her precious “precedent.” But I’ll just observe that as a general tendency, people are really, really concerned about precedent when they happen to agree with the outcome. But when they don’t like the outcome, respect for precedent goes right out the window, dunnit?

And if precedent were the end-all be-all, “separate but equal” would still be the law of the land.

Alex_SF on June 26, 2008 at 2:28 PM

Thanks kirkill for the quote from Patrick Henry

BobK on June 26, 2008 at 2:28 PM

He should know about camels.

LtE126 on June 26, 2008 at 2:32 PM

I smell an ad coming soon…”Just what does Obama think about gun control? He believes firmly in every side of this issue…simultaneously. If you’re for it, he’s with you. If you’re against it, so is he. Obama, the candidate of change.”

CP on June 26, 2008 at 2:34 PM

I smell an ad coming soon…”Just what does Obama think about gun control? He believes firmly in every side of this issue…simultaneously. If you’re for it, he’s with you. If you’re against it, so is he. Obama, the candidate of constant change.”

CP on June 26, 2008 at 2:34 PM

There, fixed it for you

SoCalInfidel on June 26, 2008 at 2:35 PM

SCOTUS decisions are just a distraction. But if you dare pin him down, then you sir, are a racist.

Sammy316 on June 26, 2008 at 2:35 PM

I think Obama’s “common sense” regulation argument is going to try to sneak in the dissenters’ argument for balancing interests. He might try the argument that: “It’s just ‘common sense’ that in D.C./Chicago/San Francisco with its crime rate, ______ [fill in the blank with whatever lefties want] handgun regulation is in the best interests of the community, will save lives, etc…”

Wethal on June 26, 2008 at 2:35 PM

I like that look Alexis gives him at the end…”is this goofball sh-ting me?

LtE126 on June 26, 2008 at 2:35 PM

Second look at Kerry.

fogw on June 26, 2008 at 2:39 PM

Give this guy a drug test. It doesn’t work in Chicago. Crime rates are up. Maybe Obama should spend some time in Ill-noise to see exactly how much it doesn’t work.

In the gated communities with private security services, it does work. That’s all that matters to these guys.

MarkTheGreat on June 26, 2008 at 2:39 PM

“Fox Business asked him about the D.C. ban point blank in an interview this morning — and he dodged it again.”

I thought I saw a weasel tail flash by behind that empty suit.

Dusty on June 26, 2008 at 2:39 PM

Triangulation is indignant.

This SCOTUS decision calls for a trip to the range, soon. Love to hit that center, without exceptions! Luger comes out for show.

Entelechy on June 26, 2008 at 2:41 PM

Hussein Obama will put his finger up, and go with which the wind blows. He really gets confused when his head is under his bedding covers. /Sarcasm

BARACK HUSSEIN OBAMA, WHEN ARE YOU GOING TO PRODUCE A LEGAL, UN REDACTED, CERTIFIED COPY OF YOUR BIRTH CERTIFICATE?

byteshredder on June 26, 2008 at 2:43 PM

Second look at Kerry.

fogw on June 26, 2008 at 2:39 PM

Imagine Obama in the hunting outfit and entourage, like Kerry. Never! He’s all talk, any talk.

Flip-flopping is indignant.

Entelechy on June 26, 2008 at 2:43 PM

the question to ask obama is which part of the dissent he agrees with and which part he does not and why.

elduende on June 26, 2008 at 2:43 PM

Here’s the perfect question for Obama, on topic, “Senator, do you agree or disagree with Nancy Pelosi on gun control?”.

Entelechy on June 26, 2008 at 2:45 PM

Just words! Just distractions!

saltydogg14 on June 26, 2008 at 2:47 PM

I think the perfect question for Obama is…who will he replace old man Scalia with?

alphie on June 26, 2008 at 2:48 PM

You will also note that in his entire history, no matter how he is flip-flop-flipped, has Obama never recognized a right to own a firearm for defensive purposes.

Hunting? Target Shooting? However he defines “Sport Shooting?” He can bend enough to allow those things if it means gaining the White House, but Chicago’s Favorite Bus Driver is nowhere on record as recognizing a right to self-defense.

Someone should put him on the spot. I suspect that he has spent so much time and energy dodging this question that we already know the answer.

Bob Owens on June 26, 2008 at 2:49 PM

Gun ban under the bus.

Chakra Hammer on June 26, 2008 at 2:49 PM

If you dont think who we elect as POTUS think again. With Obama in and 1 of the 5 replaced with his choice we are looking at 5-4 and NO GUNS.

This is the reason I will vote for the senator from AZ. I live in CA so my choice really wont make diff but I will vote.

TroubledMonkey on June 26, 2008 at 2:49 PM

He’s articulate, and clean…

Jeesh…aaaaand, uh, uh, uh…

That Fox Business chick is friggin crazy hot.

benrand on June 26, 2008 at 2:50 PM

The Supreme Court has now endorsed that view

Full of yourself much?

DrSteve on June 26, 2008 at 2:52 PM

Obama will never be pressed on whether he thinks the DC gun ban went to far and he won’t provide an honest answer to a simple question. I respect someone like Senator Chuck Schuner who proudly admits that he favors confiscation of all firearms. I don’t agree with him but at least he does not try to duck from the question. He states clearly that he would like the federal government to confiscate weapons. But what is shameful is that Barack Obama will never be asked about his namby pamby views.

Larraby on June 26, 2008 at 3:03 PM

Take the next highway, turn left at the post turtle.

tarpon on June 26, 2008 at 3:06 PM

This guy flip-flops like a Chinese acrobat.

Pcoop on June 26, 2008 at 3:18 PM

Exit question: This makes two prominent cases in two days where St. Barack’s been on the wrong side of the Court’s liberals. Does that portend anything for his Supreme Court appointments or is this just more crap dumped on top of the mountain of centrist shinola he’s shoveling lately to try to get elected?

I’ll take door number two, Allah.

capitalist piglet on June 26, 2008 at 3:18 PM

That reporter is a MAJOR distraction!

Dread Pirate Roberts VI on June 26, 2008 at 3:39 PM

If Obama keeps trying to tapdance along the fence on this one, I fear that he’ll end up with Cojonicus Pancakus.

So this is the ‘new politics’ of hopeandchange? Staking out both sides of an issue weakly? I love it.

hillbillyjim on June 26, 2008 at 3:40 PM

Got this from newsbusters.org:

Craig Layne, a reporter from WJET-TV in Erie, Penn., today asked Sen. Barack Obama, D-Illinois, a question on the DC gun ban.

Here’s how the exchange went down.

“In November you mentioned that the DC handgun law was constitutional,” Layne said. “Now you’re embracing the Supreme Court’s 5-4 decision striking down
that law-

“That’s not what I said,” Obama interrupted, per ABC News’ Jennifer Duck.

“Your aide said that,” Layne clarified.

“I don’t know what my aide said but I’ve been very consistent, I teach constitutional law,” Obama said. What I said was that I believe 2nd Amendment as being an individual right and have said that consistently. I also think that individual right is constrained by the rights of the community to maintain issues with public safety. I don’t think those two principles are contradictory and in fact what I’ve been saying consistently is what the Supreme Court essentially said today.”

Uh, der, duh, I don’t think those two principles are contradictory.

What a tool.

John the Libertarian on June 26, 2008 at 3:47 PM

Cojonicus Pancakus

Laughing out loud.

Talk about evocative!

Bob's Kid on June 26, 2008 at 3:53 PM

In summary: “…uh…I’ve been very consistent…I was for it before I was against it…say, are you a racist??”

The Obemporer has no clothes…

landlines on June 26, 2008 at 3:55 PM

Before today, Obama repeatedly said that he supports the D.C. gun ban, and that he believes it is constitutional. Today he tells us that the Supreme Court’s holding striking down the gun ban as unconstitutional is consistent with his position.

Either Obama is an ignorant fool, or he thinks the rest of us are (or maybe both).

AZCoyote on June 26, 2008 at 4:21 PM

Neither video has Obama saying he wants to rid LEGAL ownership of guns nor does he state that the Second Amendment should be ignorned. So the big issue for LEGAL GUN OWNERS IS…???

DanKenton on June 26, 2008 at 4:22 PM

So what does he stand for? I have no clue.

ronsfi on June 26, 2008 at 4:34 PM

So when does Eric Holder get thrown under the bus? He was one of the architects of the D.C. gun ban and a vocal advocate of it.

rockmom on June 26, 2008 at 4:37 PM

Neither video has Obama saying he wants to rid LEGAL ownership of guns nor does he state that the Second Amendment should be ignorned. So the big issue for LEGAL GUN OWNERS IS…???

DanKenton on June 26, 2008 at 4:22 PM

That’s DanKenton’s outlook and he’s sticking clinging to it.

hillbillyjim on June 26, 2008 at 5:44 PM

Obama was Director of the The Joyce Foundation for 8 years.

They are proud of their anti-gun position.

AnthonyK on June 26, 2008 at 6:05 PM

Correction “a Director”

AnthonyK on June 26, 2008 at 6:06 PM

All of the ‘present’ votes. All of the flip-flopping. Staking out positions on both sides (poorly) on any controversial issue. Or neither side.

Ah. A man of substance and integrity. Change you can believe in.

hillbillyjim on June 26, 2008 at 6:16 PM

So what does he stand for (and against)? I have no clue.

ronsfi on June 26, 2008 at 4:34 PM

Everything

Entelechy on June 26, 2008 at 7:21 PM

The SCOTUS ruling is a high mark for individuals and a decided low mark for the anti-individual Socialist-Democrat party. Of course Comrade B.H. Obama is less than delighted, his role model government (that would be the Maoist Chinese) had to restrict gun ownership to seize control of China. How is he going to follow in Mao’s Long March if the peasants have guns?

SeniorD on June 26, 2008 at 8:01 PM

Sometimes a camel toe in one place will produce a tent in another.

mikeyboss on June 26, 2008 at 2:25 PM

That’s brilliant, mikeyboss! So good I had to share it with Mrs B when she heard me laughing. Busted her up too.

techno_barbarian on June 26, 2008 at 11:38 PM

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