Comments on: Jindal urged to veto legislative pay raise — by two legislators who voted for it

By: Laura

Laura — Fri, 27 Jun 2008 18:14:27 +0000

rightwingprof – why, are you in PA? I had a long talk with Russ Diamond about how PA got it done, and we’re modeling this after the Clean Sweep campaign.

By: rightwingprof

rightwingprof — Fri, 27 Jun 2008 14:03:09 +0000

Har. I see others have mentioned the PA pay raise.

By: Laura

Laura — Fri, 27 Jun 2008 06:26:30 +0000

The rally.

By: Diogenes of Sinope

Diogenes of Sinope — Fri, 27 Jun 2008 04:12:47 +0000

Rally? There’s a rally? I’m not much of a joiner…. lol

can ya link me?

7/1 I’ll be on the beach baby….

By: Laura

Laura — Fri, 27 Jun 2008 02:50:30 +0000

Thanks, Diogenes! You coming to the rally? We’ll have on our Greedy Gator Legislator tee shirts (I just finished setting up the shopping cart) and are all going to try to group together at the rally. Hey, we’re filming a TV spot on Tuesday 7/1 – same director who did the SDT commercials, you want in? I need two more people.

By: Diogenes of Sinope

Diogenes of Sinope — Fri, 27 Jun 2008 01:30:28 +0000

I think it was the “automatic raises in perpetuity” stuff that set off the torch-bearing villagers…

Well that and they didn’t just vote for the lege in the next term to get the raise… They voted to over double their own pay…

That rubbed people the wrong way.

BTW sorry I missed the thread Laura, but well done.

By: Rhymes With Right

Rhymes With Right — Thu, 26 Jun 2008 23:04:39 +0000

Get Out Your Veto Pen, Bobby…

From my perspective, there is no way that Gov. Bobby Jindal of Louisiana can avoid vetoing this pay raise for the Louisiana Legislature. The reformist image of Gov. Bobby Jindal, considered by Republicans a top potential vice-presidential choice, has r…

By: Laura

Laura — Thu, 26 Jun 2008 22:57:23 +0000

Roux, I didn’t even hear of that (I never used to pay attention to local politics) but it pretty much proves the point: if he vetoes it, this will all pretty much go away. Which is why they’re begging him to veto it.

By: roux

roux — Thu, 26 Jun 2008 22:12:46 +0000

This happened under Blanco as well. The last time it was lifetime health insurance benefits. The legislators claimed they’d misread the bill.

Blanco vetoed it.

By: mojo

mojo — Thu, 26 Jun 2008 21:55:48 +0000

I think it was the “automatic raises in perpetuity” stuff that set off the torch-bearing villagers…

By: rockmom

rockmom — Thu, 26 Jun 2008 21:48:43 +0000

Laura, that’s right, the PA legislature did repeal the raise, but by then it was way too late because many of its supporters were defeated in primaries and others were forced to retire. The Senate Majority Leader lost in a primary to a guy who ran a tire store and had never even thought about running for office. People here were REALLY pissed, and NOT at Ed Rendell.

From what I can tell the PA pay raise was much worse in political terms than the LA one. Yet Rendell came out of it unscathed.

By: Laura

Laura — Thu, 26 Jun 2008 21:27:05 +0000

But if possible, I think Jindal should allow the bill to become law without his signature

That’s what he (as of now, anyway) says he intends to do. In PA in 2005, they went back and repealed the pay raise four months later, and if this actually becomes law, our legislature will probably do the same thing.

By: right2bright

right2bright — Thu, 26 Jun 2008 21:02:33 +0000

rockmom on June 26, 2008 at 4:31 PM

rockmom rocks…

By: rockmom

rockmom — Thu, 26 Jun 2008 20:31:55 +0000

I am not familiar with LA’s constitution or the calendar. But if possible, I think Jindal should allow the bill to become law without his signature. If the legislative session has ended, he should then call a special session so that the legislators themselves can repeal the pay raise.

It would be foolish and short-sighted for Jindal to bail out these legislators now by vetoing the bill – unless he can extract something huge from them in return, and publicly.

Ed Rendell SIGNED the pay raise in Pennsylvania and never paid a price for it. The legislators did, and even a state Supreme Court justice was defeated. It actually turned into a political bonanza for Rendell because the legislature was controlled by Republicans and most of the ones thrown out by the voters were Republicans. Rendell now has a much friendlier legislature.

By: Laura

Laura — Thu, 26 Jun 2008 20:26:10 +0000

These people got elected they didn’t win the lotto!

Hmmm… new tee shirt idea? Nah. But “No Veto, No Vote” is gaining in popularity.

By: Chakra Hammer

Chakra Hammer — Thu, 26 Jun 2008 20:19:51 +0000

You think that’s bad – the original plan was to triple their base pay.

Laura on June 26, 2008 at 4:06 PM

These people got elected they didn’t win the lotto!

By: Chakra Hammer

Chakra Hammer — Thu, 26 Jun 2008 20:16:13 +0000

I thought Chakra was picking on poor ol’ AP for being a Rockefeller Republican. misterpeasea on June 26, 2008 at 4:10 PM

I just think Jindal should say this.. That's Too Much!

By: misterpeasea

misterpeasea — Thu, 26 Jun 2008 20:14:55 +0000

Cornyn also reversed himself, but that was weeks before the anger really started to mount, as I recall, so it was probably done on principle. Oh, and do recall that as thanks for his reversal, he got an F-bomb dropped on him by our nominee.

Oh man, AP, now you’ve really stepped in it. ArmyAunt is going to start calling you Allahppeaser, and _man is going to…uh…keep making a fool out of himself, while calling you a liar also. And wondering if you’re still going to be hanging around HotAir after Obama wins in November.

INCOMING!

By: misterpeasea

misterpeasea — Thu, 26 Jun 2008 20:10:06 +0000

I still think my idea is brilliant: a means test. Wealthy office-holders wouldn’t get a dime, poor office-holders would get what they needed. Then public office wouldn’t be restricted to only the wealthy and the corrupt. And if people went in knowing they weren’t going to be able to live like kings, public office wouldn’t attract only the wealthy and the corrupt.

Dusty on June 26, 2008 at 3:49 PM

I thought Chakra was picking on poor ol’ AP for being a Rockefeller Republican.

By: Laura

Laura — Thu, 26 Jun 2008 20:06:49 +0000

coming from a mere $16,800 thats 2.23X’s as much money.. + keeping your perks..

You think that’s bad – the original plan was to triple their base pay.

By: Chakra Hammer

Chakra Hammer — Thu, 26 Jun 2008 19:57:32 +0000

But were you agreeing with it? It seemed so after I read your comment just prior and after it on the stepped pay increases and your target is in the same range. Indiana passed a bill in 2007 for the new legislature in 2009: pay $20k.

Dusty on June 26, 2008 at 3:49 PM

I think Jindal should veto it because the top is set to high.. $37,500 + perks and such seem excessive to me. in one lump, coming from a mere $16,800 thats 2.23X’s as much money.. + keeping your perks..

By: Chakra Hammer

Chakra Hammer — Thu, 26 Jun 2008 19:51:33 +0000

Laura on June 26, 2008 at 3:46 PM

I agree, that the perks and everything need to be taken into account..

Also, the cost of living in LA is lower than say NY or California etc..

The increase seems to massive IMHO.

Or at least not structured properly.. it should at least be tied somehow to success or accomplishment.. and even still, the top shouldn’t be that high..

By: Dusty

Dusty — Thu, 26 Jun 2008 19:49:27 +0000

[Chakra Hammer on June 26, 2008 at 3:42 PM]

But were you agreeing with it? It seemed so after I read your comment just prior and after it on the stepped pay increases and your target is in the same range. Indiana passed a bill in 2007 for the new legislature in 2009: pay $20k.

By: Laura

Laura — Thu, 26 Jun 2008 19:46:45 +0000

Chakra – Yes, I understand, but AP was incorrect; he did not understand the pay structure and what they get in terms of actual compensation for a part time job. In context, it IS a massive sum; that’s the point I was trying to make.

By: Chakra Hammer

Chakra Hammer — Thu, 26 Jun 2008 19:42:52 +0000

Dusty on June 26, 2008 at 3:34 PM
Laura on June 26, 2008 at 3:36 PM

Those were NOT my comments read under it, it said PER AP(Allahpundit)