Saudi marriage advice: Try waiting a few years before deflowering your infant child bride

posted at 10:05 pm on June 25, 2008 by Allahpundit

And if you decide you just can’t wait, hey — the worst they can give you is life in prison, right?

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Ugh. I do not see how my muslim friend can possibly explain this sort of thing away.

Bob's Kid on June 25, 2008 at 10:10 PM

Sage advice. You might want your wedding gifts to consist of more than diapers and pacifiers for your wife.

Although I am sure they would endorse pacifiers for any aged wife.

Grafted on June 25, 2008 at 10:11 PM

This is like watching a live conversation with Genghis Khan or Torquemada. Someone gave a tv to a neanderthal.

JiangxiDad on June 25, 2008 at 10:11 PM

Un-be-frickin’-leivable.

Splashman on June 25, 2008 at 10:13 PM

This is utterly sick!

upinak on June 25, 2008 at 10:13 PM

I’ll bookmark this in case I ever need to induce vomiting for some reason.

joewm315 on June 25, 2008 at 10:13 PM

This is evil. Just Evil.

I can’t understand why we Americans have a divided voice on this topic. Where is our collective condemnation of these these medieval practices?

Claypigeon on June 25, 2008 at 10:13 PM

Un-be-frickin’-leivable.

Splashman on June 25, 2008 at 10:13 PM

Sadly, no.
I’m beginning to miss the days when anything related to Islam surprised me.

Canadian Infidel on June 25, 2008 at 10:16 PM

This is merely a contract indicating consent.

Consent of the father, not the child, should be clarified.

Hog Wild on June 25, 2008 at 10:17 PM

Mmmmm….The ‘prophet’ Mohammed as my model for life or the Lord Jesus Christ?…Mmmmmm…thinking…thinking…

gideon on June 25, 2008 at 10:19 PM

Man that Mohammed was a real prick. Heck they don’t even do that in Arkansas.

But these are the same folks that
Chop Heads
Shoot while wave a white flag
Kill children indiscriminately
Stop working to prey
Commit honor killings
Circumcise girls
etc. etc.

Religion of peace eh?

TheSitRep on June 25, 2008 at 10:21 PM

Bob’s Kid on June 25, 2008 at 10:10 PM

Ugh. I do not see how my muslim friend can possibly explain this sort of thing away.

Why do you assume that he/she would agree with it and therefore have a need to explain it?

Do Christians have to defend Fred Phelps?

DaveS on June 25, 2008 at 10:23 PM

Obama definitely lost the muslim vote by coming out against child rape.

SouthernGent on June 25, 2008 at 10:23 PM

This is evil. Just Evil.

Claypigeon on June 25, 2008 at 10:13 PM

I second that.

newton on June 25, 2008 at 10:23 PM

This is real easy to explain and understand.

All you have to do is see women as property to be bought, sold, traded, owned.

By extension, the so called ‘beta male’ is also something to be bought, sold, traded, owned.

This goes a long way towards explaining middle eastern or african theory of governance; if you are rich and powerful, you own the population over which you have dominance just as though you were/are a feudal lord.

Geeze, don’t you people read history?

rockhauler on June 25, 2008 at 10:24 PM

Stinkin’ mother’s of Mohammed! This is truely a degraded society and the sons of dogs and apes. (How am I doing?) These pigs of Satan, from mother’s of uncovered whores of Babylon, deserve what they get from the USMC. When you want to change conditions overnight call 555-USMC and then let them win.

thatcher on June 25, 2008 at 10:31 PM

Islam at it’s base.

That’s what it honestly is at ground level.

BTW, that was a Moderate Muslim.

old trooper on June 25, 2008 at 10:37 PM

So their “model” is a guy ( yeah, blessings, peace, whatever..) who can’t get any women his own age to dig him, so the pedophile route is all that’s left to him?

Got it.

Thanks for that.

Markvike on June 25, 2008 at 10:39 PM

Why do you assume that he/she would agree with it and therefore have a need to explain it?

Do Christians have to defend Fred Phelps?

DaveS on June 25, 2008 at 10:23 PM

He/she would have no need to defend the so called adherent to her faith, only the fact that the central figure in his/her religion possibly had sex with a nine year old girl. That, he/she, would probably need to address.

gideon on June 25, 2008 at 10:44 PM

TheSitRep on June 25, 2008 at 10:21 PM
Heck they don’t even do that in Arkansas.

Shut up….I keel youu!

kahall on June 25, 2008 at 10:45 PM

Ugh. Just ugh.

Priscilla on June 25, 2008 at 10:46 PM

That was sarcasm up there.

And once again the headline cracked me up AP.

kahall on June 25, 2008 at 10:46 PM

Sheets of glass.

It’s the only way.

The Ugly American on June 25, 2008 at 10:50 PM

This is like watching an interview with Stalin in 1950: you get a rare view into the sickness and pure evil of what the man represents.

Every generation in the modern era has a Mother of All Threats: my father lived under communism for 11 years before escaping to “the West”, and before that he had foreign and domestic fascists–and before that, growing up, there were the Very Lean Years of the 30’s

People my age had a “Soviet Union” with FORTY THOUSAND nuclear warheads, strategic and tactical, under the control of a gerontocracy increasinly prone to take stupid risks from Afghanistan to East Germany / Berlin to Angola

My sons have ‘radical Islam’ aided by dhimmi sh+tbirds who will French kiss those who intend to kill us all

Nine years old………

Janos Hunyadi on June 25, 2008 at 10:50 PM

Why do you assume that he/she would agree with it and therefore have a need to explain it?

I am positive she would not agree with it any more than I agree with Phelps. But she cannot argue with the man’s basic truth: we follow Mo’s example in this. She cannot deny that Mo married Aisha at 6 and consummated the marriage when she was 9. She cannot deny that in islam it is perfectly acceptable and legal according to Sharia for a father to marry his daughter to anyone he pleases no matter how old she is. While local customs and laws might put restrictions on marriages, islam itself allows it–and all you have to do is read Ask an imam to see that no matter what your local custom is, if you want to marry an 8 year old, you can get someone to approve it without much trouble.

The Phelps whelps do not in any way preach or practice anything Christ–or any Judeo-Christian prophet–taught, all they do is distort and twist to suit their purposes. One can utterly reject what they do without rejecting the example set by Christ–or Moses, or Isaiah, etc.

There is a huge difference between the two.

Bob's Kid on June 25, 2008 at 10:55 PM

If the Kalifornia State Supreme Court’s ruling on marriage rights for gay couples is allowed to stand, there will be no rationale that prohibits polygamous relationships or child marriages. All anyone has to do is claim that they and their one-year-old are in a loving, committed relationship and deserve to be treated in the same way as any other marriageable couple.

Kalifornia Kafir on June 25, 2008 at 10:57 PM

I’ve said it before. Our first amendment right to free speech has some limitations (yelling “fire” in a crowded theater). These limitations are totally understandable. How about our freedom of religion? Here’s a “religion” that espouses child molestation and rape, murder, genocide, terrorism…need I go on?

This is one religion that it would be totally reasonable to ban.

stonemeister on June 25, 2008 at 10:59 PM

Can this day get any better,good grief,the Muslim
religion has no taboo’s,everthing,and anything is
permissable!

This is pure sick,lets call this for what it is,
woman who are muslims are slaves,period!

This kind of sickness that prevails in a country,
would amount to war,and this was probably one of
the reasons why,some crusaders,way back when,went
to fight!

canopfor on June 25, 2008 at 11:04 PM

Muhammad was such a gentleman – waiting three years before having sex with a nine-year-old. The days of chivalry are gone, friends.

stonemeister on June 25, 2008 at 10:59 PM

And for the lefties, they’re against “a woman’s choice,” too. I predict opposition to the suggestion (we should even strip Islam of its “religion” status and classify it as “ideology,” like “Communism” or “Oprah”), though, as Islam seems to actively hate and desire to wreak havoc upon America, making it just everyday Berkeley riffraff.

emailnuevo on June 25, 2008 at 11:11 PM

fucking barbarians
but i am not saying it in a hateful way, THAT would be mean

billypaintbrush on June 25, 2008 at 11:14 PM

I can’t understand why we Americans have a divided voice on this topic. Where is our collective condemnation of these these medieval practices?

Claypigeon on June 25, 2008 at 10:13 PM

Meh. The other side of the divide thinks it’s ok to murder their unborn children out of convenience so what would you expect? I don’t see why this schmuck is anymore of a neanderthal than the average liberal (which isn’t saying much).

Darth Executor on June 25, 2008 at 11:15 PM

This is one religion that it would be totally reasonable to ban.

stonemeister on June 25, 2008 at 10:59 PM

So I can have a dumbass liberal selectively quoting the OT (or even the NT) and using it to ban Judaism/Christianity? No thanks. As long as most american muslims don’t actually support that **** I don’t care. Let’s not turn america into europe.

Darth Executor on June 25, 2008 at 11:17 PM

SCOTUS decision, now this. I don’t want to know what’s gonna complete the trifecta.

TexasDan on June 25, 2008 at 11:22 PM

Little girls can learn to defend themselves maybe with a machine gun like this 7 year old.

WildBillK on June 25, 2008 at 11:36 PM

American Muslims are different of course. They are here for the Democracy they have desired all their lives. They will also be happy to instruct you about the beauty that is Islam.

PS…all “bad” Muslims are hijacking radicals and the rest just want to shop at the mall like anyone else…right? Your a racist if your answer is wrong.

[email protected] on June 25, 2008 at 11:38 PM

… the Muslim religion has no taboo’s, everthing, and anything is permissable! – CanOpFor

Everything is permissable … except cartoons of Mo, ANY art depicting ANYbody (let alone Mo), owning pets, charging interest, women working, women driving, women leaving the house alone, women wearing anything less than a burka, men shaving off their beards, taking infidels as friends, drinking, smoking, dancing, flying kites, etc etc etc etc etc etc etc etc etc etc etc etc etc etc etc etc etc etc ………….

Tony737 on June 25, 2008 at 11:57 PM

We need a “rotten meat” graphic.

RushBaby on June 25, 2008 at 11:57 PM

Let’s not turn america into europe.

Darth Executor on June 25, 2008 at 11:17 PM

You (and most people) just don’t seem to get it. They want to turn America (and Europe) into a caliphate! Or ashes. Either way. And we’re welcoming them to it!

stonemeister on June 26, 2008 at 12:05 AM

You (and most people) just don’t seem to get it. They want to turn America (and Europe) into a caliphate! Or ashes. Either way. And we’re welcoming them to it!

stonemeister on June 26, 2008 at 12:05 AM

“They” being who? Muslism are not one monolithic group. At any rate, if I have to pick between a fanatical muslim’s vision of the future and a dumbass liberal’s vision of the future, I’d rather slit my own throat. If you’re trying to convince me muslims are more dangerous than liberals then you’re off your rocker. There is absolutely no reason why a bunch of goatherders with AKs should pose a credible threat to a country with the US’s technological level, bar one: treason. Liberals are the reason why we are so weak. They are devouring our country from the inside out and while you’re busy screeching about muslims hiding in every shadow ready to cut your throat they will lead us to ruin.

Darth Executor on June 26, 2008 at 12:16 AM

His model…his ideal is a 50-something man who has sex with a 9 year old

sick

uptight on June 26, 2008 at 12:23 AM

That there is pretty frakked up.

phronesis on June 26, 2008 at 12:30 AM

This is one religion that it would be totally reasonable to ban.

stonemeister on June 25, 2008 at 10:59 PM

islam is not a religion. It’s a political ideology with a mythology attached to it. Ataturk understood this, which is why Turkey is structured the way it is.

progressoverpeace on June 26, 2008 at 12:38 AM

Who says all men are ferocious wolves?”

ISLAM does! Hence the burka, so that these “men” will able to control their need to rape!

Tony737 on June 26, 2008 at 12:53 AM

How about he hire a babysitter, ya cheap asshole.

bloggless on June 26, 2008 at 1:05 AM

I think this turd really believes it. Do you notice that his right arm seems to be moving back and forth ever so slightly off screen, as he is speaking about dirty old men consumating a marriage with a child? Filty pig.

bloggless on June 26, 2008 at 1:08 AM

That would explain the diaper on his head.

2Tru2Tru on June 26, 2008 at 1:10 AM

Do you notice that his right arm seems to be moving back and forth ever so slightly off screen … – blogless

Eeewwwwwww, just like the defendant in “The Devil’s Advocate”!

Tony737 on June 26, 2008 at 1:19 AM

Darth Executor on June 26, 2008 at 12:16 AM

What cave have you been living in? Iran will soon have nukes, and can launch them from ships to either hit our cities, or have them detonate at high altitudes over the US. If they do the latter, they will zap us right back to the stone age!

No threat indeed.

stonemeister on June 26, 2008 at 1:43 AM

Shut up….I keel youu!

kahall on June 25, 2008 at 10:45 PM

Actually, it’s: SILENCE!!! (eyebrows raise) I Keel you.

But that’s a minor point. The big point is that Darth Executor is right – our true threat is effeminate American leftists.

platypus on June 26, 2008 at 2:42 AM

Seems to me that Muhammad was a pedophile. Doesn’t sound like a good role model to follow.

kaye on June 26, 2008 at 3:18 AM

Seems to me that Muhammad was a pedophile. Doesn’t sound like a good role model to follow.

kaye on June 26, 2008 at 3:18 AM

Sounds like what the guy was saying.. 9yrs old.. HUH..

ISH..

Chakra Hammer on June 26, 2008 at 3:29 AM

Mohammed was a pedophile, he screwed his 9 year old child wife.

If you can look beyond his penchants for genocide and kiddie sex he was a pretty stand up guy – definitely congress material.

Ares on June 26, 2008 at 4:16 AM

They are no different from the polygamists, such as are in Texas. We dont approve of them and we remove the children from those homes, but our President constantly kisses the a$$(and cheek) of the Saudis,he sells them weapons and actually visits that country.

If this is a “moderate” muslim than we need to STOP dealing with them in any way!

I am totally grossed out. ugh

becki51758 on June 26, 2008 at 6:22 AM

Everything is permissable…
Tony737 on June 25,2008 at 11:57PM.

Tony737:Tony,this religion(muslims),by far,is a faith
of the dark,its evil!

Its all pure hate,there is no love in their
religion,the only exception is their love for
Allah or Mohammad,and I would imagine that
love is unconditional!:)

canopfor on June 26, 2008 at 6:29 AM

islam is not a religion. It’s a political ideology with a mythology attached to it. Ataturk understood this, which is why Turkey is structured the way it is.

progressoverpeace on June 26, 2008 at 12:38 AM

Exactly. And today, unsuspecting westerners allow it to successfully uses the cover of a religion to mask that.

It wasn’t very long ago in Europe that “the Turk” really conveyed something heinous. People understood the constant threat that ideology posed. Hell, young boys in coastal Irish fishing villages were kidnapped centuries ago by Muslims.

JiangxiDad on June 26, 2008 at 6:46 AM

And if you decide you just can’t wait, hey — the worst they can give you is life in prison, right?

AP, I was thinking along the same line.

The SCOTUS atrocity has moved us closer to that kind of horror.

As Pogo said in another context, “We have met the enemy, and he is us.”

ANY of us who intends not to vote, or intends to write in someone, to “teach the RINOs a lesson” needs to reflect soberly on the consequences of a Marxist administration.

People who repeatedly vote for the likes of T. Kennedy, Reid, Biden, et al, share in this disgrace.

davidk on June 26, 2008 at 6:59 AM

Why the hell do Muslims like this yokel insist on clinging tenaciously to a 7th Century mentality in the 21st Century?

pilamaye on June 26, 2008 at 7:24 AM

Here’s a “religion” that espouses child molestation and rape, murder, genocide, terrorism…need I go on?

The Religion of Peace . . .

seanrobins on June 26, 2008 at 7:30 AM

This is like watching a live conversation with Genghis Khan or Torquemada. Someone gave a tv to a neanderthal.

JiangxiDad on June 25, 2008 at 10:11 PM

Your myth of the evil Genghis Khan is muslim progaganda. Genghis Khan was well thought of in Christiandom for the first hundred years after his death. Genghis Khan’s great contribution to mankind was the sacking of Baghdad, the largest and most powerful city in the world at the time. Let’s honor him for crushing the power of Islamic civilization and thus enabling Western Civilization to be become the dominant civilization–at least until recently.

And let’s be clear that the muslims abundantly provoked Genghis Khan to move against Baghdad. Genghis wanted trade relations with Baghdad, but the muslims killed and slaughtered his trading caravans. Sacking Baghdad was the right thing to do.

thuja on June 26, 2008 at 7:35 AM

You’re all just culturally insensitive pessimists; focus on the positive aspects of the story, he did wait until the kid was 9 before he raped her.

Alden Pyle on June 26, 2008 at 8:01 AM

What cave have you been living in? Iran will soon have nukes, and can launch them from ships to either hit our cities, or have them detonate at high altitudes over the US.

And whose fault is it that they got nukes in the first place?

At any rate, our surveillance technology is top notch. There’s no way in hell Iran can get a ship close enough to hit and I doubt even liberals would object to taking them out (at least for now, give them a couple more generations and we’ll be completely pacified).

If they do the latter, they will zap us right back to the stone age!

No threat indeed.

stonemeister on June 26, 2008 at 1:43 AM

Did you read what I said, dumbass? I didn’t say they’re no threat, I said they WOULDN’T BE A THREAT IF IT WASN’T FOR LIBERALS! Iran would not have nukes if the first response to its nuclear enrichment program from the world community had been “bomb their ass”. Here’s an analogy of what’s going on:

Us = human body
Radical Islam = the common cold
Liberalism = AIDS

Under normal circumstances, the human body can disperse the common cold with little problems. Suffer from AIDS though, and even something as benign as a cold can kill you.

Darth Executor on June 26, 2008 at 8:40 AM

Why the hell do Muslims like this yokel insist on clinging tenaciously to a 7th Century mentality in the 21st Century?

pilamaye on June 26, 2008 at 7:24 AM

Because it’s in the Koran and Sunnah. They believe they have the precise Word of Allah, and Muhammad’s real life example, and these things can’t be explained away, “re-interpreted” or altered to fit the modern world. If a Muslim attempts to do that, he is accused of innovation and blasphemy – or worse – shirk and apostasy.

forest on June 26, 2008 at 8:44 AM

WildBillK on June 25, 2008 at 11:36 PM

My daughter would LOVE to have one of those for her birthday. Where can I buy one?

oldleprechaun on June 26, 2008 at 8:57 AM

Why do you assume that he/she would agree with it and therefore have a need to explain it?

Do Christians have to defend Fred Phelps?

DaveS on June 25, 2008 at 10:23 PM

Your equivocating.

Considering that this religious Muslem claims this evil deed is alright according to Mohammed, Allah’s prophet, yes she would need to explain it.

Considering that Fred Phelps claims to be a christian and yet quite clearly goes against Christ’s teaching of gentleness and reverence, Christians are obliged to not defend Phelps but rebute him.

shick on June 26, 2008 at 9:08 AM

When did Justice Anthony Kennedy learn Arabic?

RhymesWithRight on June 26, 2008 at 9:14 AM

Praying for the females in these sick and twisted lands.

bridgetown on June 26, 2008 at 9:16 AM

For those who believe Islam is not a threat to our way of life, I would highly recommend Mark Steyn’s book America Alone. If after reading his book you still think Islam is an unimportant goatherder religion, you’ve got big problems.

fourstringfuror on June 26, 2008 at 9:26 AM

Is this Islamic extremism or is this Islam as the prophet taught it? After all, his favorite wife was 6 at marriage and 9 at consummation. At least the prophet waited 3 years.
Just wondering.

abcurtis on June 26, 2008 at 9:42 AM

There’s no way in hell Iran can get a ship close enough to hit and I doubt even liberals would object to taking them out

Obama has already stated terrorism is a matter for the courts. Based on that, I wonder if Obama and his socialist demcorats would really take out an enemy ship, or wait until we were attacked and then trot out the lawyers? It’s a shame that question even has to be asked.

abcurtis on June 26, 2008 at 9:47 AM

This is the Reverend Jeremiah Wright Abdul

drjohn on June 26, 2008 at 9:49 AM

When your starting point of logic is the Koran, this is the sort of reasoning you get. You have the Muslim extremist and then you have all the rest who simply sit on their hands while evil flourishes.

Mojave Mark on June 26, 2008 at 9:51 AM

ANY of us who intends not to vote, or intends to write in someone, to “teach the RINOs a lesson” needs to reflect soberly on the consequences of a Marxist administration.

davidk on June 26, 2008 at 6:59 AM

Which is precisely why I’ve finally made it into McCain’s corner. I dont trust McCain, he MIGHT appoint good judges, he might not. He MIGHT control the border, he might not. He MIGHT win the war, he might not.
These are some of the things McCain might or might not do. However, we KNOW what Obama and a socialist democrat majority WILL do.
So I’ll be pulling the lever for McCain.

abcurtis on June 26, 2008 at 9:52 AM

Everything is permissable…
Tony737 on June 25,2008 at 11:57PM.

But not all things are helpful.

abcurtis on June 26, 2008 at 10:01 AM

Jeeezus…Sickening. Our Supreme court says that child rapists dont deserve death, a world gone mad I tell you.

Lunkinator on June 26, 2008 at 12:23 PM

Which is precisely why I’ve finally made it into McCain’s corner. I dont trust McCain, he MIGHT appoint good judges, he might not. He MIGHT control the border, he might not. He MIGHT win the war, he might not.
These are some of the things McCain might or might not do. However, we KNOW what Obama and a socialist democrat majority WILL do.
So I’ll be pulling the lever for McCain.

abcurtis on June 26, 2008 at 9:52 AM

That my friend is exactly how I feel…Its the republicans as a whole fault for nominating him in the first place…but its too late to go back now and Obama could quite possibly be the worst “change” this country has ever seen

SoCalInfidel on June 26, 2008 at 1:18 PM

I can’t understand why we Americans have a divided voice on this topic. Where is our collective condemnation of these these medieval practices?

Claypigeon on June 25, 2008 at 10:13 PM

Meh. The other side of the divide thinks it’s ok to murder their unborn children out of convenience so what would you expect? I don’t see why this schmuck is anymore of a neanderthal than the average liberal (which isn’t saying much).

Yeah, the left’s view of children: kill them before they’re born; if they make it that far, they’re fair game at any age.

psrch on June 26, 2008 at 1:40 PM

So if I need someone to watch my daughter because I need to go on a trip, I just marry her off…

Somehow, I can’t imagine a trip that important…

taznar on June 26, 2008 at 2:53 PM

Here’s a question for ya’:

If a child can consent to sex with another child, why can’t a child consent to sex with an adult?

Doesn’t make a bit of sense.

Al-Ozarka on June 26, 2008 at 3:26 PM

Saudi Groom to Saudi Bride: “Fatima, turn off the cartoons and put down that coloring book. We’re leaving for our honeymoon!”

Tantor on June 26, 2008 at 4:21 PM

If a child can consent to sex with another child, why can’t a child consent to sex with an adult?

Doesn’t make a bit of sense.

Al-Ozarka on June 26, 2008 at 3:26 PM

Sure it does, though I can see how an Arkansas might not agree.

Between children, it’s two approximately equal parties, and thus not as much chance of one exerting undue influence over the other or obtaining consent through fraud or force. Between a child and an adult, the adult has a lot more sophistication, experience, authority, etc, and a much greater chance of undue influence, fraud, force, or “overborne will.”

Woo Pig. Sooiee! I hope for your sake that Nutt doesn’t beat your’n with his’n.

misterpeasea on June 26, 2008 at 5:07 PM

When did Justice Anthony Kennedy learn Arabic?

RhymesWithRight on June 26, 2008 at 9:14 AM

I thought it was Ruth Bader Ginsburg who thought the age of consent should be 12.

misterpeasea on June 26, 2008 at 5:21 PM

We use the Prophet Mohammed as our guide, marry at 6, sex at 9.

Don’t some cities in the UK want to allow for the ability of the Muslim segment of their population to be governed by Shiria?

To be announced on the BBC: Statutory rape laws for children 8 and under. Have at it Pedophiles. We’ll bus you into town for your weekend conversion to Islam.

Sultry Beauty on June 26, 2008 at 6:09 PM