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		<title>By: aengus</title>
		<link>http://hotair.com/archives/2008/06/25/sadc-snubs-south-africa-mbeki/comment-page-1/#comment-1205407</link>
		<dc:creator>aengus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Jun 2008 23:35:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;At one time, South Africa demanded, and received, action from around the world to force an end to its apartheid regime and allow for democracy and freedom.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

South Africa is not free. Its a Communist democracy.

&lt;blockquote&gt;Did the world act just so we can have another voice defending oppression and brutality in Africa?&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Yes.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>At one time, South Africa demanded, and received, action from around the world to force an end to its apartheid regime and allow for democracy and freedom.</p></blockquote>
<p>South Africa is not free. Its a Communist democracy.</p>
<blockquote><p>Did the world act just so we can have another voice defending oppression and brutality in Africa?</p></blockquote>
<p>Yes.</p>
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		<title>By: patrick neid</title>
		<link>http://hotair.com/archives/2008/06/25/sadc-snubs-south-africa-mbeki/comment-page-1/#comment-1204552</link>
		<dc:creator>patrick neid</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Jun 2008 16:55:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Anyone with a passing remnant of a brain stem knew years ago that Mugabe was a henchman of the first order. The fact now, years later and thousands dead and millions impoverished I could care less what happens in that part of Africa. In fact if you told me today that last night the entire area disappeared I would continue reading the sports page. I would figure that the good went to heaven and the bad are burning. Either way it is better there than here.

Africa for the most part is a godforsaken shit hole run by tribal leaders who pretend to walk on two legs. I repeat what I said years ago, Mugabe should be shot on sight.

As for South Africa, it is heading where every one predicted.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Anyone with a passing remnant of a brain stem knew years ago that Mugabe was a henchman of the first order. The fact now, years later and thousands dead and millions impoverished I could care less what happens in that part of Africa. In fact if you told me today that last night the entire area disappeared I would continue reading the sports page. I would figure that the good went to heaven and the bad are burning. Either way it is better there than here.</p>
<p>Africa for the most part is a godforsaken shit hole run by tribal leaders who pretend to walk on two legs. I repeat what I said years ago, Mugabe should be shot on sight.</p>
<p>As for South Africa, it is heading where every one predicted.</p>
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		<title>By: Bambi</title>
		<link>http://hotair.com/archives/2008/06/25/sadc-snubs-south-africa-mbeki/comment-page-1/#comment-1204309</link>
		<dc:creator>Bambi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Jun 2008 14:42:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Does anyone see what is really wrong with these countries?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Does anyone see what is really wrong with these countries?</p>
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		<title>By: eon</title>
		<link>http://hotair.com/archives/2008/06/25/sadc-snubs-south-africa-mbeki/comment-page-1/#comment-1204287</link>
		<dc:creator>eon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Jun 2008 14:31:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;jgapinoy on June 25, 2008 at 9:25 AM&lt;/blockquote&gt;

 Yes. And in a rational world diamonds, one of the most common crystalline-lattice minerals on earth, would be valued only for their use as tool material due to their hardness. As opposed to being lauded as &quot;rare&quot;, &quot;valuable&quot;, and &quot;Forever&quot;, as de Beers would have it.

 The &quot;special status&quot; of diamonds as gemstones due to their &quot;rarity&quot; is one of the biggest con jobs ever perpetrated. Many other types of gemstone are significantly rarer; ruby and sapphire being cases in point. If not for the artificial inflation of the &quot;perceived value&quot; of diamonds, de Beers would never have become a major power in economics, and states like Angola, RSA, and now Zimbabwe wouldn&#039;t have had the economic clout to force the rest of the world to put up with their local political and social psychoses as long as they have. And &quot;conflict diamonds&quot; would never have become a steady source of funding for their internecine wars.

 A good source for some of the actual facts about diamonds, compared to other gemstones, can be found in the novel &lt;em&gt;Shock Wave &lt;/em&gt;by Clive Cussler. While the story is entirely fictional, Cussler&#039;s research on diamonds is factual.

cheers

eon</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>jgapinoy on June 25, 2008 at 9:25 AM</p></blockquote>
<p> Yes. And in a rational world diamonds, one of the most common crystalline-lattice minerals on earth, would be valued only for their use as tool material due to their hardness. As opposed to being lauded as &#8220;rare&#8221;, &#8220;valuable&#8221;, and &#8220;Forever&#8221;, as de Beers would have it.</p>
<p> The &#8220;special status&#8221; of diamonds as gemstones due to their &#8220;rarity&#8221; is one of the biggest con jobs ever perpetrated. Many other types of gemstone are significantly rarer; ruby and sapphire being cases in point. If not for the artificial inflation of the &#8220;perceived value&#8221; of diamonds, de Beers would never have become a major power in economics, and states like Angola, RSA, and now Zimbabwe wouldn&#8217;t have had the economic clout to force the rest of the world to put up with their local political and social psychoses as long as they have. And &#8220;conflict diamonds&#8221; would never have become a steady source of funding for their internecine wars.</p>
<p> A good source for some of the actual facts about diamonds, compared to other gemstones, can be found in the novel <em>Shock Wave </em>by Clive Cussler. While the story is entirely fictional, Cussler&#8217;s research on diamonds is factual.</p>
<p>cheers</p>
<p>eon</p>
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		<title>By: Dr.Cwac.Cwac</title>
		<link>http://hotair.com/archives/2008/06/25/sadc-snubs-south-africa-mbeki/comment-page-1/#comment-1204189</link>
		<dc:creator>Dr.Cwac.Cwac</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Jun 2008 13:43:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Gee, anyone else see parallels to Russia and China in our dealings with Iran?  How&#039;s that working out?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Gee, anyone else see parallels to Russia and China in our dealings with Iran?  How&#8217;s that working out?</p>
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		<title>By: jgapinoy</title>
		<link>http://hotair.com/archives/2008/06/25/sadc-snubs-south-africa-mbeki/comment-page-1/#comment-1204167</link>
		<dc:creator>jgapinoy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Jun 2008 13:27:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>More&lt;a href=&quot;http://jgapinoy.blogspot.com/2007/07/misnomers.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt; misnomers.&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>More<a href="http://jgapinoy.blogspot.com/2007/07/misnomers.html" rel="nofollow"> misnomers.</a></p>
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		<title>By: jgapinoy</title>
		<link>http://hotair.com/archives/2008/06/25/sadc-snubs-south-africa-mbeki/comment-page-1/#comment-1204160</link>
		<dc:creator>jgapinoy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Jun 2008 13:25:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In a &lt;em&gt;real&lt;/em&gt; world, thugs like Mug-abe would be called &quot;dictator&quot;, not &quot;president&quot;. 
And &quot;People&#039;s Republic of China&quot; is a joke, too.
So is the &quot;Fairness Doctrine&quot;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In a <em>real</em> world, thugs like Mug-abe would be called &#8220;dictator&#8221;, not &#8220;president&#8221;.<br />
And &#8220;People&#8217;s Republic of China&#8221; is a joke, too.<br />
So is the &#8220;Fairness Doctrine&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: Sekhmet</title>
		<link>http://hotair.com/archives/2008/06/25/sadc-snubs-south-africa-mbeki/comment-page-1/#comment-1204156</link>
		<dc:creator>Sekhmet</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Jun 2008 13:21:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The US was instrumental in keeping the ANC away from power until the Cold War was over, and Mandela would no longer be in a position to put the diamond mines under Soviet control. Siberia is almost as big a source of diamonds as South Africa.In fact, anybody remember &quot;Eternity&quot; rings? You know, the ones really popular in the late 80&#039;s early 90&#039;s with multiple small diamonds around the band? Most of those diamonds were Siberian. There was a huge amount of Siberian diamonds mined in the latter part of the 80&#039;s as pressure was increased to make the DeKlerk government step down. 

The ANC was less a democratic movement in South Africa than partially a way for tribes brought down originally as slaves to the Zulu to unite politically combined with a Soviet plot to gain control of the diamond industry. I&#039;m not surprised they have turned out to be less than ethical in their dealings.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The US was instrumental in keeping the ANC away from power until the Cold War was over, and Mandela would no longer be in a position to put the diamond mines under Soviet control. Siberia is almost as big a source of diamonds as South Africa.In fact, anybody remember &#8220;Eternity&#8221; rings? You know, the ones really popular in the late 80&#8242;s early 90&#8242;s with multiple small diamonds around the band? Most of those diamonds were Siberian. There was a huge amount of Siberian diamonds mined in the latter part of the 80&#8242;s as pressure was increased to make the DeKlerk government step down. </p>
<p>The ANC was less a democratic movement in South Africa than partially a way for tribes brought down originally as slaves to the Zulu to unite politically combined with a Soviet plot to gain control of the diamond industry. I&#8217;m not surprised they have turned out to be less than ethical in their dealings.</p>
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		<title>By: Sekhmet</title>
		<link>http://hotair.com/archives/2008/06/25/sadc-snubs-south-africa-mbeki/comment-page-1/#comment-1204145</link>
		<dc:creator>Sekhmet</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Jun 2008 13:14:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;shaken on June 25, 2008 at 8:47 AM&lt;/blockquote&gt;

YUP, and China is a big trading partner of Zimbabwe. Cutting off Zimbabwe denies South Africa Chinese port fees, duties, and sailors spending their pay on some food and drink onshore.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>shaken on June 25, 2008 at 8:47 AM</p></blockquote>
<p>YUP, and China is a big trading partner of Zimbabwe. Cutting off Zimbabwe denies South Africa Chinese port fees, duties, and sailors spending their pay on some food and drink onshore.</p>
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		<title>By: drjohn</title>
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		<dc:creator>drjohn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Jun 2008 13:13:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mbeki is a tool.

He has asserted that the HIV virus does not cause AIDS.

That&#039;s a great asset to Africa.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mbeki is a tool.</p>
<p>He has asserted that the HIV virus does not cause AIDS.</p>
<p>That&#8217;s a great asset to Africa.</p>
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		<title>By: shaken</title>
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		<dc:creator>shaken</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Jun 2008 12:47:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mbeki controls the sea ports China needs.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mbeki controls the sea ports China needs.</p>
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		<title>By: Jaibones</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jaibones</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Jun 2008 12:43:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sad and entirely unsurprising to see South Africa deteriorate from a high-functioning, beautiful country with an entenable, racist form of government, to the Marxist thugocracy which is favored by most of Africa&#039;s leaders.

When people asked what could be worse than apartheid, you all knew the answer:  &lt;a href=&quot;http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/africa/7455061.stm&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;this&lt;/a&gt;.  Winnie Mandela, roving gangs of murderous youth, Marxist government policies, support for tin pot dictators whose followers rape and murder the wives of political opponents.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sad and entirely unsurprising to see South Africa deteriorate from a high-functioning, beautiful country with an entenable, racist form of government, to the Marxist thugocracy which is favored by most of Africa&#8217;s leaders.</p>
<p>When people asked what could be worse than apartheid, you all knew the answer:  <a href="http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/africa/7455061.stm" rel="nofollow">this</a>.  Winnie Mandela, roving gangs of murderous youth, Marxist government policies, support for tin pot dictators whose followers rape and murder the wives of political opponents.</p>
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		<title>By: Colonel_prop</title>
		<link>http://hotair.com/archives/2008/06/25/sadc-snubs-south-africa-mbeki/comment-page-1/#comment-1204085</link>
		<dc:creator>Colonel_prop</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Jun 2008 12:19:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The RSA is sliding towards the Zimbabwe end state just as Rhodesia did. Again - a prime example of the feel good liberal agenda giving into the old communist/socialist manifesto.

Hard to see as the South Africans and Rhodesians I know are good hard working people.

Thanks jimma (welcome to barack world if he gets POTUS)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The RSA is sliding towards the Zimbabwe end state just as Rhodesia did. Again &#8211; a prime example of the feel good liberal agenda giving into the old communist/socialist manifesto.</p>
<p>Hard to see as the South Africans and Rhodesians I know are good hard working people.</p>
<p>Thanks jimma (welcome to barack world if he gets POTUS)</p>
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		<title>By: JiangxiDad</title>
		<link>http://hotair.com/archives/2008/06/25/sadc-snubs-south-africa-mbeki/comment-page-1/#comment-1204075</link>
		<dc:creator>JiangxiDad</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Jun 2008 12:13:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Obama and McCain respond.

&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.nysun.com/foreign/mccain-and-obama-call-for-mugabes-ouster/80651/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Senator Obama said&lt;/a&gt; in a statement, &quot;If fresh elections prove impossible, regional leaders backed by the international community should pursue an enforceable, negotiated political transition in Zimbabwe that would end repressive rule and enable genuine democracy to take root.&quot;&lt;/blockquote&gt;

&lt;blockquote&gt;Senator McCain floated the prospect of sending Zimbabwe&#039;s diplomats in Washington home and suggested that the country be barred from participating in African regional forums if Mr. Mugabe clings to power.

&quot;I believe the international community must act to impose sanctions against Mugabe and his cronies and thereby hasten the end of that regime. We should consider expelling Mugabe&#039;s diplomats from Washington and explore options with our friends in Africa and beyond, including suspending Zimbabwe&#039;s participation in regional organizations as long as Mugabe clings to power. The results of the March 29 election must form the basis of a post-Mugabe resolution in Zimbabwe,&quot; Mr. McCain said.&lt;/blockquote&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Obama and McCain respond.</p>
<blockquote><p><a href="http://www.nysun.com/foreign/mccain-and-obama-call-for-mugabes-ouster/80651/" rel="nofollow">Senator Obama said</a> in a statement, &#8220;If fresh elections prove impossible, regional leaders backed by the international community should pursue an enforceable, negotiated political transition in Zimbabwe that would end repressive rule and enable genuine democracy to take root.&#8221;</p></blockquote>
<blockquote><p>Senator McCain floated the prospect of sending Zimbabwe&#8217;s diplomats in Washington home and suggested that the country be barred from participating in African regional forums if Mr. Mugabe clings to power.</p>
<p>&#8220;I believe the international community must act to impose sanctions against Mugabe and his cronies and thereby hasten the end of that regime. We should consider expelling Mugabe&#8217;s diplomats from Washington and explore options with our friends in Africa and beyond, including suspending Zimbabwe&#8217;s participation in regional organizations as long as Mugabe clings to power. The results of the March 29 election must form the basis of a post-Mugabe resolution in Zimbabwe,&#8221; Mr. McCain said.</p></blockquote>
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