Obama was right: Bigot accuses Obama of “talking white” — Ralph Nader

posted at 10:15 am on June 25, 2008 by Ed Morrissey

Maybe Barack Obama was onto something when he warned about race-based attacks in the upcoming general election.  However, the first such attack hasn’t come from Obama’s right, but from his left.  Ralph Nader accused Obama of attempting to “act white” in his outreach to middle America, and of abandoning his principles for political expediency:

Nader — who launched his 5th presidential campaign in February — says the only thing different about Obama from previous Democratic presidential candidates is his race. “I haven’t heard him have a strong crackdown on economic exploitation in the ghettos,” Nader says. “Payday loans, predatory lending, asbestos, lead. What’s keeping him from doing that? Is it because he wants to talk white? He doesn’t want to appear like Jesse Jackson? We’ll see all that play out in the next few months and if he gets elected afterwards.”

Asked if he thinks Obama is trying to “talk white,” Nader said, “of course….The number one thing that a black American politician aspiring to the presidency should be is to candidly describe the plight of the poor, especially in the inner cities and the rural areas, and have a very detailed platform about how the poor is going to be defended by the law, is going to be protected by the law, and is going to be liberated by the law,” Nader said. “Haven’t heard a thing.”

Nader also says Obama wants to show he’s not “another politically threatening African-American politician. He wants to appeal to white guilt. You appeal to white guilt not by coming on as black is beautiful, black is powerful. Basically he’s coming on as someone who is not going to threaten the white power structure, whether it’s corporate or whether it’s simply oligarchic. And they love it. Whites just eat it up.”

“Talk white”?  Do people still think this way?  Apparently Nader does, and the arrogance here is simply stunning.  On what basis does Ralph Nader think that he qualifies to be the arbiter of black authenticity?

Nader doesn’t even bother to go for subtlety or code words here.  He doesn’t actually utter the words “Uncle Tom” in this outburst, but the meaning is plain.  Nader accuses Obama of selling out the poor and his own constituency in order to ingratiate himself with the “white power structure”.

I’m not here to defend Obama, but this attack is simply despicable.  It demands, as the Left often does, that minorities subjugate their own opinion for groupthink, and that they offer no deviation from the Leftist orthodoxy, lest one give up their own ethnic identity and be called a traitor merely for having their own opinions.  Whether Obama actually does this or not is not as relevant as the exposure of the Left’s attitudes on racial identity and political individuality.

Obama had no hesitancy to smear John McCain and the Republican Party as bigots with absolutely no provocation whatsoever.  Will Obama respond to an actual bigoted attack from a fellow Leftist with as much vigor as he fulminated against Republicans for no reason at all?  So far, the only response Team Obama has issued is to declare themselves “obviously disappointed”.

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the only thing different between Obama and previous Democratic candidates in that he’s Black–Nader

Bingo. But that’s enough to fuel anti-White bias in the media & in millions of voters of all colors.

jgapinoy on June 25, 2008 at 9:22 AM

Oh no he di’int!

Tony737 on June 25, 2008 at 9:22 AM

Note MSM: It’s Nader the arch-liberal who is saying this. Not McCain, not anyone even remotely connected with the Republicans.

But I swear, by the time the Koskidz get hold of it, they’ll say Rove is pulling Nadar’s strings.

Ellen on June 25, 2008 at 9:24 AM

“say Rove is pulling Nadar

MarkTheGreat on June 25, 2008 at 9:37 AM

Bob Beckel just called. He can’t believe conservative bloggers said that!

amerpundit on June 25, 2008 at 9:38 AM

The more Obama tries to move to the center, the more votes Nader picks up.

Mr. Rock, meet Mr. Hardplace.

MarkTheGreat on June 25, 2008 at 9:40 AM

Hey, did you hear?: Limbaugh said Obama

SteveMG on June 25, 2008 at 9:49 AM

“… Basically he’s coming on as someone who is not going to threaten the white power structure, whether it’s corporate or whether it’s simply oligarchic. And they love it. Whites just eat it up.”

Uh, correction, lefty whites eat it up, it alleaves their guilty conscience without really addressing the problems they’ve caused in the black family.

Tony737 on June 25, 2008 at 9:53 AM

Nader just needs some ink and airtime. He’s feeling left out. The quickest way to get some press is to talk race.

a capella on June 25, 2008 at 9:56 AM

This election cycle is a perfect storm which has exposed the racism, sexism and bigotry of the Left. It’s clearly visible now for all with open eyes to see. Will they?

TheBigOldDog on June 25, 2008 at 10:18 AM

They prepare the race trap for McCain and the Right but instead they ensare someone on their Left.

They deserve every bit of consternation this causes them.

Vizzini on June 25, 2008 at 10:18 AM

Oh man……..please, please, PLEASE let Ralph Nader into the debates! Maybe he’ll peal off some of the hard left nutroots from Barry.

Dr.Cwac.Cwac on June 25, 2008 at 10:19 AM

See? Liberals are more likely to be racist.

jgapinoy on June 25, 2008 at 10:20 AM

Have you noticed that in certain company Barry does change the inflection in his voice (a la Hillary)?

Dr.Cwac.Cwac on June 25, 2008 at 10:20 AM

Well, Justice Thomas isn’t black.

benrand on June 25, 2008 at 10:20 AM

Watch it Ralphy, we know where that got Clinton when he tried to make that point.

Rbastid on June 25, 2008 at 10:21 AM

Huh, and here I thought he was acting white. Live and learn.

Akzed on June 25, 2008 at 10:23 AM

I hope Jon Stewart doesn’t make a joke about this leftist racism. He might find himself in a small prison cell with a drain in the floor and a Che poster on the wall.

Wineaholic on June 25, 2008 at 10:25 AM

I don’t care if he is black, red, white, blue… have purple eyes and come from the planet Uranus. I ain’t voting for the POS!

upinak on June 25, 2008 at 10:25 AM

If Nader wants some attention, he should drive down Main Street in a Corvair Spyder with a black hooker in the passenger seat.

Come to think of it, that probably wouldn’t work for him, either. Keep up the good work, Ralph.

Syd B. on June 25, 2008 at 10:27 AM

How is this different from people chastising the Obama campaign for saying ‘we need more white people’ in the background shot. Nothing Nader said was incorrect. Nor was it racist. I think he explained the tightrope that we all know Obama is walking rather well.

What’s the percentage of blacks where you live Ed? You are in Wisconsin, right? 1%? 2%? But you are the first to call out ‘RACIST!’ when someone talks about something you don’t encounter. That’s par for the course.

ThackerAgency on June 25, 2008 at 10:33 AM

Not uncommon for those on the left, black and white, to make similar comments about conservative blacks – look at the nastiness aimed at Clarence Thomas and Condi Rice. I guess Nader’s actions are the next phase in identity politics.

exhelodrvr on June 25, 2008 at 10:34 AM

Bob Beckel will have it all cleared up by tomorrow, HotAir and the rest of the conservative blogs did it!!

Lunkinator on June 25, 2008 at 10:35 AM

And it’s too bad Nader isn’t Chris Rock or Dave Chapelle because then you would have thought the exact same words were funny.

ThackerAgency on June 25, 2008 at 10:35 AM

Who the hell listens to Ralphie anyway?

GarandFan on June 25, 2008 at 10:40 AM

Now we have another far right Republican, Ralph Nader, playing the race card against Obama.

danking70 on June 25, 2008 at 10:41 AM

“Talk white”? Do people still think this way? Apparently Nader does, and the arrogance here is simply stunning. On what basis does Ralph Nader think that he qualifies to be the arbiter of black authenticity?

From a black person Ed. Nader is right. Obama is avoiding anything “black” that is as plain as the nose on your face. What columnist said his ad could have been called “My mom is white and I love my country”? He was dead on too. I think Nader has a point.

Nader doesn’t even bother to go for subtlety or code words here. He doesn’t actually utter the words “Uncle Tom” in this outburst, but the meaning is plain.

Conservatives only get that title Ed. Take it from a man that has been called that many, many times for being conservative. Obama has the leftwing boiler plate agenda, and he is a Democrat.

I’m not here to defend Obama, but this attack is simply despicable. It demands, as the Left often does, that minorities subjugate their own opinion for groupthink, and that they offer no deviation from the Leftist orthodoxy, lest one give up their own ethnic identity and be called a traitor merely for having their own opinions.

I think you are wrong Ed. If you were to compare and contrast Nader’s criticism and blacks criticism’s of Clarence Thomas, Janice Rodgers Brown you will find a subtle but noticeable lack of ideology in black criticism of black conservatives. Nader does use the term white guilt, coined by a conservative to explain Obama’s tactics. That is ideology not “you are an Uncle Tom and you hate your own people because you do not support welfare. I have not seen anything close to Nader’s ideological and policy based criticism. Nader says

Asked if he thinks Obama is trying to “talk white,” Nader said, “of course….The number one thing that a black American politician aspiring to the presidency should be is to candidly describe the plight of the poor, especially in the inner cities and the rural areas, and have a very detailed platform about how the poor is going to be defended by the law, is going to be protected by the law, and is going to be liberated by the law,” Nader said. “Haven’t heard a thing.”

That is what Nader has been about for years, this is not new. And look at the pathetic response from Obama’s camp.

An Obama spokeswoman, Shannon Gilson, said “we are obviously disappointed with these very backward-looking remarks.”

Obama is running away from “black” issues. You won’t even see him standing next to more than two black people at a time until he either wins or losses the election. Nader called him an what he is doing. Ideologically pulled his pants down. Obama knows he is appealing to white votes from now until November, Nader knows it and Nader called him on it.

Theworldisnotenough on June 25, 2008 at 10:43 AM

TheBigOldDog on June 25, 2008 at 10:18 AM

nope.

trailortrash on June 25, 2008 at 10:45 AM

Nader does have a point.
Obama’s talking points have changed dramatically since he became the presumptive nominee.
They’ve changed even more than his proclaimed views while he was still a Chicago politician.

On the other hand, proclaiming that Obama is abandoning his principles in order to attract votes, presumes that Obama had any principles to begin with.

MarkTheGreat on June 25, 2008 at 10:49 AM

Nader has to be a glutton for punishment. At least Ross Perot knew when enough was enough.

pilamaye on June 25, 2008 at 10:49 AM

MarkTheGreat on June 25, 2008 at 9:40 AM

That works for McCain in Washington and possibly Virginia, alot of hard left people in Northern VA, but they are poltically savvy enough to not vote Nader knowing their votes cold tip the state in favor of McCain.

Theworldisnotenough on June 25, 2008 at 10:50 AM

While the irony is delicious, it does have one negative effect:
Folks on the left won’t be defecting and splitting the vote for this loser. Not that he would have had nearly the impact as he did on the 2000 election anyway, but every little bit helps.
The upside, Nader is now going to fade even farther into obscurity.

SouthernDem on June 25, 2008 at 10:50 AM

What’s the percentage of blacks where you live Ed? You are in Wisconsin, right? 1%? 2%?

I don’t live in Wisconsin, I live in the Twin Cities in Minneapolis, where I can assure you the ratio is higher. I lived most of my life in Los Angeles, where it was even higher. And why would that matter? I can’t recognize racism unless I live outside of Wisconsin? That’s a dumb argument.

Ed Morrissey on June 25, 2008 at 10:55 AM

OK, look, here’s the problem. We can’t have a national discussion on race if every time someone says something controversial, they are branded ‘racist’.

Minneapolis certainly has a more concentrated AA population (a main reason why their representative is Muslim).

However, we can’t have a discussion on a controversial issue such as race if when someone says something that could be construed as ‘controversial’ is declared ‘RACIST’. That’s not how debates happen.

The problem is that the media gets better ratings the more sensational they make EVERYTHING. They get GREAT ratings if something is ‘racist’. This is keeping our society from moving forward.

It used to be that I dismissed most of this as ‘race baiting’ but it only came from Jackson and Sharpton. But now the first people to ‘race bait’ is the media and ‘white guilt’ non-southerners (or Southern Democrat politicians pandering to the African Americans for their vote).

I wish we could get past calling people ‘racist’ or ‘bigot’ for something they SAY. Can we not look at the actions of people and determine whether or not they need to be reprimanded or punished? We have FREEDOM OF SPEECH. Calling someone bigot or racist just ends the discussion.

Racism is the systematic oppression of another person because of their race. . . it isn’t saying something that might be possibly considered to be ‘racist’. If we don’t get past this we won’t get a ‘post racial’ America.

ThackerAgency on June 25, 2008 at 11:01 AM

ThackerAgency on June 25, 2008 at 11:01 AM

Sorry, but your entire response is a non-sequitur. You accused me of ignorance based on my race and your pre-conceived notions of my environment, and then said we can’t get to a post-racial America by doing exactly what you did to me.

Nader wants Obama to “talk black”. The very construct of that is racist, precisely because it oppresses dissent based on racial and ethnic categorization.

Ed Morrissey on June 25, 2008 at 11:05 AM

John Kass from today’s Chicago Trib

If America’s liberal newspaper editorial boards were high school girls, they’d be listening to sad songs on the car radio just about now, driving mournfully in the rain, because Sen. Barack Obama has found somebody new.

Can’t you hear them sing this oldie?

“Barry Angel/How I love him/How I tingle when he passes by/Every time he says hello, my heart begins to fly. Barry Angel/How I want him/He’s got something that I can’t resist/But he doesn’t even know that I exist.”

Unrequited love is so sad. Will someone please get me a handkerchief?

And now he’s dumped them, coldly, for a glittery, prettier creature. Much prettier and richer by far with incredible amounts of charm—an estimated $500 million worth of charming campaign cash.

[comment edited by Ed for copyright issues; please do not post entire articles into the comments.]

LtE126 on June 25, 2008 at 11:07 AM

OK, look, if I apologize for insinuating that you don’t ‘KNOW’ will that make you listen to what I am saying about branding people ‘racist’?

We need to get past calling people names like this if we want to address the controversial race issue in this country. It won’t be black white very soon. It will be black hispanic and the whites won’t have a voice. Calling people racist and dismissing them doesn’t move the argument forward.

Nader (I’m not a supporter of his) did NOT say anything wrong. Nobody said anything that he said was wrong, they just said it was ‘racist’. By being racist it must have been ‘wrong’.

I’m sorry but to say that he is trying to become the first black president by not acting ‘too black’ is not an incorrect statement. . . ESPECIALLY when OBAMA specifically goes out of his way to show white supporters behind him at rallies.

ThackerAgency on June 25, 2008 at 11:09 AM

Will this turn some Hillary voters toward Nader? Nader is an over-the-hill idiot, but he could be a useful idiot, as in Florida in 2000.

Steve Z on June 25, 2008 at 11:10 AM


But McCain was right about money corrupting our politics. So was Obama. And I suppose that after the election, after Obama uses record amounts of cash to club McCain to earth in the name of reform, the critical editorial boards will praise Obama as a “New Pragmatist.”

This needed to be pointed out.

Darksean on June 25, 2008 at 11:10 AM

And I’ll put money on the notion that McCain will be branded ‘racist’ before the end of this campaign. . . and like it or not, this is the game you are playing and feeding into now by attacking Nader.

The media wants any dissension or criticism of Obama to be considered ‘racist’. This is just a warm up. Do you want to play along or start calling them out now before they move to something McCain says in a debate?

ThackerAgency on June 25, 2008 at 11:18 AM

LtE126 on June 25, 2008 at 11:07 AM

Fair use anyone?

Theworldisnotenough on June 25, 2008 at 11:19 AM

Bob Beckel just called. He can’t believe conservative bloggers said that!

amerpundit on June 25, 2008 at 9:38 AM

LOL

Theworldisnotenough on June 25, 2008 at 11:21 AM

Nader (I’m not a supporter of his) did NOT say anything wrong. Nobody said anything that he said was wrong, they just said it was ‘racist’. By being racist it must have been ‘wrong’.

I’m sorry but to say that he is trying to become the first black president by not acting ‘too black’ is not an incorrect statement. . . ESPECIALLY when OBAMA specifically goes out of his way to show white supporters behind him at rallies.

ThackerAgency on June 25, 2008 at 11:09 AM

The mere idea that Blacks are supposed to act and speak a certain way and whites another is racist. If a Republican had said this the Media and every civili rights organization in the country would be out for blood. It would be used as yet more proof that Republicans are racists. When things like this are said by Liberals it is largely ignored.

rac·ism (rszm)
n.
1. The belief that race accounts for differences in human character or ability and that a particular race is superior to others.

TheBigOldDog on June 25, 2008 at 11:22 AM

Just let them fight amongst themselves. Just like when Hillary was still around. Move along. Nothing to see here.

malan89 on June 25, 2008 at 11:22 AM

ThackerAgency on June 25, 2008 at 11:18 AM

You agree with this?

“I haven’t heard him have a strong crackdown on economic exploitation in the ghettos,” Nader says. “Payday loans, predatory lending, asbestos, lead. What’s keeping him from doing that? Is it because he wants to talk white? He doesn’t want to appear like Jesse Jackson? We’ll see all that play out in the next few months and if he gets elected afterwards.”

He’s black, so he must do these things, or something is wrong with him?

misterpeasea on June 25, 2008 at 11:23 AM

And by the way, I had no idea that Nader was a Republican.

misterpeasea on June 25, 2008 at 11:24 AM

And I’ll put money on the notion that McCain will be branded ‘racist’ before the end of this campaign. . . and like it or not, this is the game you are playing and feeding into now by attacking Nader.

The media wants any dissension or criticism of Obama to be considered ‘racist’. This is just a warm up. Do you want to play along or start calling them out now before they move to something McCain says in a debate?

ThackerAgency on June 25, 2008 at 11:18 AM

You can’t let your fear of unfair charges of racism keep you from pointing out clear examples of it when it legitimately occurs. That plays right into the Left’s hands. It’s playing their game by their rules and that in large part explains the sorry state we are in. We are always playing their game by their rules and you can’t win that way.

TheBigOldDog on June 25, 2008 at 11:24 AM

Thacker-

Nader’s position, or view of the situation, may not be wrong. What’s wrong, or “racist” as Ed calls it, is Nader’s insistence that Obama should have a different position because Obama is black.

That’s how Nader can be both right and wrong at the same time, and how Nader unnecessarily injects race into the issue.

Nader should have just said that Obama is paying insufficient attention to the problems of the poor, and that a vote for Nader would be better.

JiangxiDad on June 25, 2008 at 11:26 AM

ThackerAgency on June 25, 2008 at 11:18 AM

BTW, after listening to O’Reilly last night analyze why Media Matters wasn’t out beating the drum against Imus again, I’m not so sure you are right about what the media wants right now. In short, O’Reilly figures the media does not want to talk about race or racism at all right now because they figure it can only hurt Obama. Time will tell if O’Reilly’s analysis is correct.

TheBigOldDog on June 25, 2008 at 11:28 AM

Ralph Nadir.

whitetop on June 25, 2008 at 11:28 AM

Who does he thinks he is? Harry Belafonte?

andycanuck on June 25, 2008 at 11:46 AM

And Obama’s momma didn’t raise no dummies. NSFW

andycanuck on June 25, 2008 at 11:49 AM

A white middle cals kid from Hawaii who goes to harvard starts talking like he was raised in Mississippi after he decides to run for president and nader says he’s trying to “act white”.

ralph you’re an idiot.

peacenprosperity on June 25, 2008 at 11:57 AM

Nader is right. Obama is avoiding anything “black”

He’s doing the exact opposite. You won’t hear anymore talk of aragula.

peacenprosperity on June 25, 2008 at 12:06 PM

misterpeasea on June 25, 2008 at 11:23 AM

It’s difficult to explain without being called a racist and this is a case in point. Most Democrats pander to the poor by talking about reforming those issues. The point he’s making is that while Obama is trying to be a champion of the working class, he’s trying not to be a champion of the poor black community specifically.

The point was that he WON’T talk about those things, or things that would be important to the black community SPECIFICALLY BECAUSE of the perception that he’s just trying to get handouts for the black community.

I haven’t heard him talk about the need for reparations recently – for example – and he won’t mention it now because white’s wouldn’t like it.

This is what Nader was saying. This is ‘Obama the musical’ that we are all witnessing. Nothing is genuine, everything is orchestrated. We aren’t electing a politician, we are watching a movie.

Again, the problem is that Nader is discussing race and racial issues, but can’t because he’s then called ‘racist’. Or Ed said ‘bigot’ after agreeing with Obama and reverand Wright that this is indeed the US of KKK (from the title). Adding fuel to cries of ‘racism’ because someone says something controversial about race doesn’t help our nation move forward. . . (ie. doesn’t help Michelle Obama’s children).

ThackerAgency on June 25, 2008 at 12:07 PM

Nader wants Obama to “talk black”.

When nader says that he means more left and more like a victim. nader, on top of being an ignorant hypocrite, is the racist because if being a racist means you believe in a genetic inferiority of a certain race and nader believes all black people are leftists (in other words, stupid or dysfunctional), then he’s the racist.

peacenprosperity on June 25, 2008 at 12:10 PM

Isn’t it a fact that it will be whomever wins over more white male voters will be the eventual winner (assuming that there are no major upsets in the groups who typically vote the same way in each election regardless of the candidate)?

Wildcatter1980 on June 25, 2008 at 12:49 PM

That terrorist loving old phony Marxist ought to shut his pie hole.

Hilts on June 25, 2008 at 1:07 PM

Thacker,

When someone says something that is quite clearly racist, not calling it racist will not promote racial harmony either.

Declaring that Obama is trying to talk “white” because he isn’t as far left as Nader is racism. Plain and simple.

MarkTheGreat on June 25, 2008 at 1:14 PM

Sister Soulja moment. An opportunity for Barack.

gcotharn on June 25, 2008 at 1:37 PM

Looks like Ralph needs some time in the re-education camps. Truth to power, old man.

Vote Sauron 08 on June 25, 2008 at 1:43 PM

Unfortunately pointing out the hyprocrisy doesn’t even help Republicans because the topic doesn’t change: race. As long as Obama keeps the election about race, he wins.

pecan pie on June 25, 2008 at 1:43 PM

Obama might be forced to respond to Nader … if Nader could get more than 2% of voters to even consider punching his chad.

stivv on June 25, 2008 at 2:05 PM

Declaring that Obama is trying to talk “white” because he isn’t as far left as Nader is racism. Plain and simple.

MarkTheGreat on June 25, 2008 at 1:14 PM

No, it isn’t racism. It is a remark that is branded racist by race baiters who make a living on it. It is an opinion, it is an observation ABOUT ‘OBAMA, the musical’.

It’s just too bad that it wasn’t Chris Rock or Dave Chapelle who said it. If it were, you’d all laugh and say ‘true dat, true dat’. But since this is ‘gotcha land’ it’s RAAACIST NATION time.

ThackerAgency on June 25, 2008 at 2:58 PM

“Talk white”? Do people still think this way?

It is odd to see you so disengaged from the HotAir comment crowd. Maybe I misread.

I’m sad to say that many people, what I perceive to be a substantial minority, think precisely in this manner.

I get the “acting white” thing all the time from left and right. I’ve been told “you’re not black” because of my interests, pursuits and intellect. My favorite is “You don’t sound black.”

I actually think HAers are taking it easy on this thread out of consideration to your expressed sensitivities. If you had posted a flaming screed….I’m guessing that most of your commenters would have agreed with it.

The Race Card on June 25, 2008 at 3:06 PM

Please point me to the lefty site that complains about race as much as this one. I would love to expose some leftards to my tart tongue and long-winded text lashings.

Thacker Agency, your perceptions of blacks vacillate between Vice City 4 and Amos n Andy.

I don’t think you’re a racist person at all. I think you have a limited palette from which you may pull experiences.

Anyway, Ill be out back bustin up tha chiffarobe. Is that okay?

The Race Card on June 25, 2008 at 3:14 PM

The Race Card, I just get tired of the eternal drum beat of ‘he’s racist, she’s racist, he said something racist, etc’. What we have in this country right now is opportunity for everyone.

More blacks in every corner of society. Not because they are black, but because they are the best person for the job. Dungy, Rivers, professional athletes, but also doctors and lawyers (Johnny Cochran could represent me any time – but I couldn’t afford him). My town’s mayor is black, most of the city council, and now the guy who is probably going to be President is black.

My issue is that we agree that racism, segregation, and slavery were awful. But everyone has opportunity. EVERYONE – every race, every religion, every age, every sex, EVERYONE HAS EQUAL OPPORTUNITY.

It doesn’t happen anywhere else in the world. But it just seems like this country is the very first to talk about how awful it is here if someone says something controversial about race (everything about race will be controversial if you want it to be).

Why haven’t people jumped on Obama for crying that he’s not Muslim like it was a smear. Even Seinfeld knew that he had to say ‘not that there’s anything wrong with that’ 10 years ago when addressing homosexuality.

To me Obama’s insistence that being Muslim would be bad is INHERENTLY BIGOTED. Now he didn’t use a racial slur, or make a negative comment about it, but it does imply inferiority if he were Muslim.

It’s beside the point though. America is a great nation despite its past sins. Calling people racist for saying things doesn’t help. It’s frustrating because I’ve dealt with it all my life dude. While society has created more opportunities for blacks, claims of racism is getting worse, not better. I the flippant claims of racism to stop please. We are Americans in the greatest nation during the greatest time. Can we stop beating each other up for it? Please?

ThackerAgency on June 25, 2008 at 3:23 PM

Nothing Nader said was incorrect. Nor was it racist. I think he explained the tightrope that we all know Obama is walking rather well. Nothing Nader said was incorrect. Nor was it racist. I think he explained the tightrope that we all know Obama is walking rather well.

Nader contradicted himself. If O addresses the issues specified, wouldn’t he be playing to white guilt? (BTW, Karl at PW notes that O has addressed these issues.)

What’s the percentage of blacks where you live Ed? You are in Wisconsin, right? 1%? 2%? But you are the first to call out ‘RACIST!’ when someone talks about something you don’t encounter. That’s par for the course.

ThackerAgency on June 25, 2008 at 10:33 AM

It’s racist to assume that lead paint, asbestos and predatory lending are “black issues.”

baldilocks on June 25, 2008 at 3:34 PM

I apologized for the comment about Ed’s knowledge concerning race since he isn’t from the South. I was wrong to do that, but I guess I have to apologize again for that comment.

But the point wasn’t that he was saying these things were ‘black issues’. As I said it is BESIDE THE POINT.

Does what Nader said take opportunity away from anyone? Is he saying that people shouldn’t talk about helping out black issues? Now he’s racist for claiming that somebody isn’t addressing black issues.

It’s like bizarro world. He said that Obama shies away from negative appearances (like having people with head scarves or black people in the background – that’s from the campaign please don’t imply that I said that people with head scarves or blacks in the background were negative appearances).

The point is that my success doesn’t come because I’m white. . . America doesn’t work that way. There are very few blacks in America that can’t succeed with hard work just like their white counter parts.

That needs to be celebrated. Instead we beat each other up over who is more racist, maybe something that was said could be interpreted as racist. Now we LOOK for racism (manufacture it) instead of point it out (because it’s harder to find than it used to be – which should be good).

ThackerAgency on June 25, 2008 at 3:44 PM

Does what Nader said take opportunity away from anyone? Is he saying that people shouldn’t talk about helping out black issues?

No and the only reason I think that it’s necessary to point out his and Imus’s racism is to counter the poison that Obama himself planted about Republicans.

Thumbs-up on the apology, btw.

baldilocks on June 25, 2008 at 3:54 PM

Oh yeah and to counter Bob Beckel’s Bravo Sierra on the same topic.

baldilocks on June 25, 2008 at 3:55 PM

We know he has the white guilt vote covered already right? Who the hell do you think got him this far the black vote??

TroubledMonkey on June 25, 2008 at 4:39 PM

Nader is an ass. I admire some of his history of consumer activism but the man is so full of himself these days.

lexhamfox on June 25, 2008 at 5:07 PM

But….Obama IS half white.

lol, this is so absurd

bridgetown on June 25, 2008 at 5:16 PM

Nader’s flapping gums: unsafe at any political speed.

(Although, perhaps “ramming speed” gets grandfathered in.)

The nadir of egocentric delusion bumps into the world’s emptiest suit.

Maybe Steve Martin can write a stageplay about the meeting of these two mealy minds, with this almost-magical encounter set in that archetypal French Cafe “Les Deux Maggoty Possums“.

Where Ralph reminisces about fishtailing Corvairs while Barry muses over making faces during kiddie Koran lessons.

(Bush can have a bit part as a Mute Waiter …who absurdly keeps bringing them unasked-for salt, in a Dada-ist fashion.)

Music by an angry Sean Penn.

profitsbeard on June 25, 2008 at 6:40 PM

Nader may be the most egotistical politician in Washington. He thinks he has an inherent right to testify to Congress as he has done in the past. I happen to think Ed as well as many commenters on this post including myself are more intelligent than Nader. Most of us have never testified before Congress and do not believe they have a right to do so.

The following is from The Washington Times.

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2008/jun/24/nader-slams-democrats-for-continued-00-grudge/?page=1

Mr. Nader, embarking on another third-party bid for the White House, gave several examples of his attempts to testify on President Bush’s nominees, civil liberties and auto safety, the issue that began his career as a consumer advocate.

“I used to be the most frequent person there,” he told The Washington Times on Monday in an extensive interview from his office in Georgetown.

“They are so small-minded that to keep the myth up that it wasn’t them that got Bush in the White House, it was Nader/LaDuke – to keep that myth and sustain it in the public’s mind, they can’t possibly associate with me or have me testify. Even though they knew they blew it in 1,000 ways in ’00 and ’04.”

Nader even caused me to agree with Obama, probably for the only time in my life.

“Mr. Nader is somebody who, if you don’t listen and adopt all of his policies, thinks you’re not substantive. He seems to have a pretty high opinion of his own work.”

burt on June 25, 2008 at 10:37 PM

Does this mean The Dali Bama is a………..”safe”….. black guy?

DfDeportation on June 26, 2008 at 1:05 AM

TheBigOldDog on June 25, 2008 at 11:22 AM

+1

soundingboard on June 26, 2008 at 2:48 AM

Everybody should read about Bill Cosby’s run-in with Tom Smothers.

http://blog.wfmu.org/freeform/2006/11/the_case_of_bil.html

I knew Smothers was an extreme liberal, but I had no idea he was so incredibly arrogant.

JimC on June 26, 2008 at 2:55 AM