Doesn’t “not voting” have the exact same effect as “voting against cloture”? They need 60 yes votes for cloture, and not voting is the same as voting no, right?

Just words!

The FISA bill, which was the subject of much heated debate earlier this year, finally passed cloture in the Senate yesterday…which means the debate is now over and it will go for a full Senate vote tomorrow (Friday), and then……

Breaking: FISA passes cloture in Senate

The usual hate, and want America to fail suspects:

ALL ARE SCUMMY DEMOCRATS

Biden (D-DE)

Boxer (D-CA)

Brown (D-OH)

Cantwell (D-WA)

Dodd (D-CT)

Durbin (D-IL)

Feingold (D-WI)

Harkin (D-IA)

Kerry (D-MA)

Lautenberg (D-NJ)

Leahy (D-VT)

Menendez (D-NJ)

Sanders (I-VT)

Schumer (D-NY)

Wyden (D-OR)

If any are up for re election…vote em out!

Sanders (I-VT)

It’s nice to see an independant earning that label and thinking for themselves rather than towing a party line.

Oh, wait… Bernie.

On a vote of 80-15, mostly Republican supporters of the bipartisan measure*,

We can only dream of when, out of 80 votes, most are Republicans, like say 61.

I am surprised that the one Senator from my state, Washington, that I was sure would vote nay, Osama-Mama Patty Murray, voted for the bill. Our other moron senator, Maria “Don’t Drill in ANWR” Cantwell, did fulfill expectations and vote nay. *sigh* What’s it like to live in a Red State?

The principle that the government can ask a private company to violate a person’s privacy rights (liberty, if you will) with the guarantee that the citizen won’t be able to sue for damages gives me pause.

SteveMG on June 25, 2008 at 9:40 PM

Not a private person. A foreigner under surveillance for terrorist connections. Or an American domestically (speaking unwittingly I hope) to someone under surveillance for terrorist activities.

Why don’t you want that? Why are you worried about privacy rights of foreigners under surveillance? What privacy rights?

You make it sound like the gov’t is going to listen to you and your wife talking to each other.

How does FISA affect you at home?

This (my concern) isn’t about telcoms. Think beyond the specifics here.

The principle that the government can ask a private company to violate a person’s privacy rights (liberty, if you will) with the guarantee that the citizen won’t be able to sue for damages gives me pause.

So, how do you we ensure that government won’t use this power for less-than-good reasons?

How does FISA affect you at home?

Nothing a little throat slitting won’t cure.

So, how do you we ensure that government won’t use this power for less-than-good reasons?

Men are not angels as Madison pointed out. Islamic men or American.

I’m a little queasy about such actions.

SteveMG on June 25, 2008 at 9:07 PM

Nothing a little throat slitting won’t cure.

That is, the government can tell a private company or business to violate the rights of Americans – yes, for a good cause but also for a bad one – and that the government will forbid Americans from suing for compensatory damages.

I’m a little queasy about such actions.

They’re un-American.

You’d think he’d bother to show up for an important vote like this.

malan89 on June 25, 2008 at 7:56 PM

John was already assured of the outcome, so he kept his meeting with GayPatriot.

But not really bipartisan when Democrats vote in a direction that liberals define as conservative. A White House-backed spy bill to protect telecommunication companies from billions of dollars in possible privacy lawsuits passed a Senate test vote on W…

Obama was Not Voting, as was McCain.

You’d think he’d bother to show up for an important vote like this.

Congress. They disgust me.

Subsunk

Subsunk on June 25, 2008 at 7:47 PM

You, me, and 88% of the nation.

JiangxiDad on June 25, 2008 at 7:52 PM

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