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Should we tie drug-war aid to Iranian sanctions?

posted at 12:50 pm on June 24, 2008 by Ed Morrissey
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This sounds like one of those conundrums in which a mother-in-law, a new Cadillac, and a high cliff play prominent roles.  The Iranians have quietly received Western aid for their successful opium-interdiction efforts that keep Afghan heroin off the streets of Europe and the US, despite the hostility in other areas of the Iranian-Western standoff.  The program has succeeded in stopping most of the heroin at the Iranian border through an intricate series of barriers and natural defenses that traps the smugglers and puts them in the hands of a rather unpleasant security force.

Now, however, the Western nations who have contributed funds and technology (the US is not among them) have decided to make their support contingent on Tehran ending their uranium enrichment — which has some wondering who will be hardest hit by a collapse in the Iranian interdiction efforts:

The incentive package has been widely endorsed as a way out of the impasse. But adding the drug battle to the mix could be counter-productive, some U.N. officials say.

A “heroin tsunami” could hit Europe if the drug interdiction by Iran is weakened, warned Antonio Maria Costa, the director of the U.N. Office on Drugs and Crime.

And it may also impact another theater in the war on terror:

Taliban fighters help finance their battles by taxing Afghanistan’s opium farmers, whose poppies provide the raw material for heroin. The West has had little success reducing the huge opium crop in southern Afghanistan where the Taliban is strongest.

Overall opium production in Afghanistan has more than doubled in the last four years — and smuggling the drug into Iran is the first step toward reaching Western markets. Afghanistan produced 93% of the world’s opium last year, and about 50% of the drugs leaving the country flowed through Iran, the U.N. Office on Drugs and Crime says.

So do we fight the war on terror by supporting Iranian interdiction, which starves the Taliban but gives the Iranians extra resources to conduct a fight they’d likely continue without us?  Or do we force a stronger sanction on Tehran, but at the same time help flood heroin into Western cities and enrich the terrorists in Afghanistan and Pakistan?

I’d say the former.  We cannot allow al-Qaeda and the Taliban to exploit that kind of cash flow while we’re in a hot war with them.  Protecting our servicement in Afghanistan has to take the higher priority — but it’s not an easy call, especially since we’re not participating in the program at all due to our own sanctions.


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I’d say the former.

Luv ya Ed, but have to disagree. I’m one of those fellas who believes that absoulte power analogy. Trusting a third world (or second world) politician or law enforcement officer to do-the-right-thing is a dead end street. Getting law enforcement to go after the 20 pounds at location X is a sure fire way to get 40 pounds imported at location Y.

Limerick on June 24, 2008 at 12:56 PM

Kobayashi Maru

LOL! The undeniable mark of a serious trekkie.

D0WNT0WN on June 24, 2008 at 12:56 PM

Or do we force a stronger sanction on Tehran, but at the same time help flood heroin into Western cities and enrich the terrorists in Afghanistan and Pakistan?

Ed, how about we get some Napalm and torch the fields while enforcing stronger sanctions.

Just my opinion of course.

upinak on June 24, 2008 at 12:56 PM

D0WNT0WN on June 24, 2008 at 12:56 PM

I think Ed is more a trekker. I can’t see him in a Star Fleet Red shirt, can you?

upinak on June 24, 2008 at 12:58 PM

Torch the heroin fields, pass drug reform laws in the US, and then allow them to grow fields of medical marijuana. Everyone wins.

muyoso on June 24, 2008 at 12:59 PM

@ upinak on June 24, 2008 at 12:56 PM

That will never work. They will always find a way.

muyoso on June 24, 2008 at 12:59 PM

muyoso on June 24, 2008 at 12:59 PM

So will murderers, rapists, and pedophiles.

Limerick on June 24, 2008 at 1:00 PM

Kobayashi Maru

LOL! The undeniable mark of a serious trekkie.

D0WNT0WN on June 24, 2008 at 12:56 PM

That’s the name of my sailboat!

Zorro on June 24, 2008 at 1:02 PM

Kobayashi Maru

Indeed – the un-winable situation. We seem to be juggling several of these challenges right now. Iran, Oil/Energy, Immigration, GWoT, Social Security, and social programs.

Let’s rig the test so we can win.

juanito on June 24, 2008 at 1:07 PM

@ Limerick on June 24, 2008 at 1:00 PM

WTF are you talking about? What do any of those things have to do with anything I said? Someone just got done watching “Reefer Madness” didnt they?

muyoso on June 24, 2008 at 1:10 PM

muyoso on June 24, 2008 at 12:59 PM

As do most drug dealers. But I doubt I will see a garden in the back of a truck with a Opium Poppy sticking out of the back! Do you? Have you ever seen a Opium Poppy? I have and it was by accident.

upinak on June 24, 2008 at 1:10 PM

Whyizit that we aren’t buying the opium from the Afghan farmers?
Surely we can outbid the Taliban.
And then we turn around and sell it to drug companies to cover costs.
Win-win.

harrison on June 24, 2008 at 1:10 PM

Here’s an idea- send enough troops into Afghanistan to clear the Taliban out of all its hiding places and kill the drug trade. Then, provide farmers with an economically viable alternative to poppy growth- even buy wheat crops for above market price, even if it costs $100 mil per year.

US generals have repeatedly said that more troops are needed and until we have the resolve to decisively defeat the enemy, Afghanistan will continue to flourish as the world’s biggest narco state, largely controlled by the drug mafia and corrupt warlords.

bayam on June 24, 2008 at 1:11 PM

@ upinak on June 24, 2008 at 1:10 PM

No, you see, drug dealers lose. When you make something legal, it takes away the black market. Thats the whole damned point. And I am not saying to legalize heroin, if you read my post, thats a hard drug with no medical benefits.

muyoso on June 24, 2008 at 1:12 PM

harrison on June 24, 2008 at 1:10 PM

Same concept as contaminated Veggies. They water and fertilize with… well you think about it. Do you want a contaminated substance in your prescriptions?

upinak on June 24, 2008 at 1:12 PM

burn it all.

trailortrash on June 24, 2008 at 1:13 PM

Kobayashi Maru

Reprogram the simulator

Kini on June 24, 2008 at 1:13 PM

Legalize all drugs. Stop wasting time, money & lives. Deny criminals any marketspace.

LimeyGeek on June 24, 2008 at 1:14 PM

muyoso on June 24, 2008 at 1:12 PM

Morphine is part of the Heroine family… and made with opium poppies. Hmmmmmmmm.

upinak on June 24, 2008 at 1:14 PM

I’m all for stopping western help to Iran with controlling drugs, and here is why:

1) Iran will also be flooded with this scourge. It will impact them negatively with increased crime and social strife.

2) While it will add more danger to coalition forces in Afghanistan, I think in the next 5 years we will see the tide turning and the West more successful, even if the Taliban have more weapons. Lessons learned from the previous 7 years will be implemented.

3) It’s a bad idea to base the world’s Heroin fight on one rogue state. Other avenues should be pursued so that the Iranians lose that leverage.

AlexB on June 24, 2008 at 1:15 PM

@ LimeyGeek on June 24, 2008 at 1:14 PM

I agree with you in principle, as I don’t think that the government has any right to do what they are doing, but drugs like heroin are so disastrous on the human body and mind, that legalizing them is not a good idea. Now something like marijuana, which has proven medical benefits, is not addictive, and which is no more debilitating than alcohol . . . . .

muyoso on June 24, 2008 at 1:16 PM

@ upinak on June 24, 2008 at 1:14 PM

Ok, I know that. Whats your point?

muyoso on June 24, 2008 at 1:17 PM

muyoso on June 24, 2008 at 1:16 PM

I wonder how long it will be when you start craving a bowl. Good Lord.

upinak on June 24, 2008 at 1:17 PM

One more thing: they have more to lose just because they are so close to the source and because so much of the raw materials / heroin passes through the country. They would be impacted by this pretty badly, if they really are that dependant on western technology. I think that if anything, Iranian engineers have found ways to copy that technology and don’t need the west’s help.

AlexB on June 24, 2008 at 1:20 PM

drugs like heroin are so disastrous on the human body and mind, that legalizing them is not a good idea

Drugs like heroin, when grown and processed with pharmaceutical care, are fine, cheap painkillers.

To me, the squabbling over ‘good’ drugs and ‘bad’ drugs is entirely irrelevant. There is no constitutional authority for the fedgov to criminalize such things. The FDA is also grossly outside its dubious constitutional boundaries, and needs to be gutted like a fish.

LimeyGeek on June 24, 2008 at 1:20 PM

@ upinak on June 24, 2008 at 1:17 PM

haha. Actually I don’t smoke. There is no need. But I have seen the benefits. My mother for example has MS. She is in constant pain. Most medicines she takes don’t work, and the ones that do have terrible side effects. She has gone through 11 different pain drugs. None work without destroying her body even more than it is. Now why is it illegal for her to relieve her pain? Can you explain that to me?

muyoso on June 24, 2008 at 1:20 PM

There are items of mutual national interest to both Iran and the United States and we should continue to work with them on those matters while confronting them on other issues. Afghanistan showed that there can be success from working together with them on such matters.

I agree with Limey that the best and most efficient option would be to buy the entire opium crop out of Afghanistan and gradually encourage the farmers to plant other crops.

lexhamfox on June 24, 2008 at 1:22 PM

What does islam have to say about the filthy heroin trade running rampant in several muslim countries? Do they chop away at your body like they do for alcohol?

LimeyGeek on June 24, 2008 at 1:22 PM

I agree with Limey that the best and most efficient option would be to buy the entire opium crop out of Afghanistan and gradually encourage the farmers to plant other crops.

I did not suggest this.

LimeyGeek on June 24, 2008 at 1:24 PM

Heroin is awesome for recreational use – if you can control it, and only few can. Practically everyone I know who had done it, with the exception of myself and 1 more person, ended up with a serious addiction. But it is also the best remedy for pain, bar none. Broken foot, aching tooth, burning stomach, whatever… H will sooth it.

Re: legalizing it, probably a bad idea. Re: Iran, we should stop helping them. Let THEM deal with it.

AlexB on June 24, 2008 at 1:32 PM

When you’re faced with the Kobayashi Maru, you change the rules. We pluck a hundred of our worst drug dealers out of prison, give them all the opium they can handle, teach them Farsi, and let them loose in Iran’s largest cities. Once we’ve got lots of Iranians addicted to opium and heroin, the Iranians will solve the problem for us.

Kafir on June 24, 2008 at 1:32 PM

When you make something legal, it takes away the black market. Thats the whole damned point.

muyoso on June 24, 2008 at 1:12 PM

Right, but unless you plan to make it legal to sell pot to 15-year-olds, you’re still going to have a black market.

Kafir on June 24, 2008 at 1:38 PM

@ Kafir on June 24, 2008 at 1:38 PM

Not true really. In fact, marijuana use among teens is down when medical marijuana is present. I guess it takes the “cool” factor away or something, I don’t know.

http://www.mpp.org/news/press-releases/ny/new-report-co-authored-by.html

muyoso on June 24, 2008 at 1:41 PM

unless you plan to make it legal to sell pot to 15-year-olds, you’re still going to have a black market.

Kafir on June 24, 2008 at 1:38 PM

No. The youth market is only worthwhile when there is an older, more monied, market to prime.

Why is there no black market for under-18 alcohol sales? No profit.

The risks and costs associated with getting such contraband to kids simply wouldn’t be met by their allowances.

LimeyGeek on June 24, 2008 at 1:43 PM

LimeyGeek on June 24, 2008 at 1:22 PM

Drug trafficking in Iran is a Capital Offense, death by hanging.

saus on June 24, 2008 at 1:46 PM

harrison on June 24, 2008 at 1:10 PM

I agree 100%, the US should be buying up this crop.

kcluva on June 24, 2008 at 1:49 PM

Drug trafficking in Iran is a Capital Offense, death by hanging.

saus on June 24, 2008 at 1:46 PM

I’m not surprised.

And still the ‘war on drugs’ continues unabated. I guess that even death is a worthwhile risk when the black market gains are so huge.

Remove the marketspace.

LimeyGeek on June 24, 2008 at 1:51 PM

Right, but unless you plan to make it legal to sell pot to 15-year-olds, you’re still going to have a black market.

Kafir on June 24, 2008 at 1:38 PM

Like the underage black market for beer and cigarettes? Not exactly big gang profit centers.

LevStrauss on June 24, 2008 at 1:51 PM

I agree 100%, the US should be buying up this crop.

kcluva on June 24, 2008 at 1:49 PM

“The US” = “The taxpayer”

Where exactly does the gubmint get the authority to spend my money on buying up drug crops?

Or any crops, for that matter? (Farm subsidy tangent alert)

LimeyGeek on June 24, 2008 at 1:52 PM

Ummmm…wow Ed. I guess you found out another demographic of your audience.

Seriously though, Tehran would hang drug smugglers and dealers. Why in the world would the absence of western funds stop them from attempting to keep them out of their society?

Honestly, the worst thing the US could ever do to Iran is over throw the mullahs societal controls. Dropping huge amounts of drugs and alcohol and porn in their major cities would be worse to the mullahs than a nuclear attack.

DrewVT6 on June 24, 2008 at 1:59 PM

Hey, we could legalize the stuff and make it too valueless to be grown in Afghanistan anymore. Unless you believe that the reason most people won’t try heroin is because it’s so darn illegal…

Kevin M on June 24, 2008 at 2:03 PM

Unless you believe that the reason most people won’t try heroin is because it’s so darn illegal…

Right….just like we’re all seething homicidal maniacs under the surface – we just need to touch a gun to release our inner murderous self.

LimeyGeek on June 24, 2008 at 2:09 PM

Anyone who has ever witnessed someone doing Heroine and who can walk away without the image in their head for the rest of their lives is either unable to grasp the other persons addiction and think it is a phase, or is mentally challenged.

upinak on June 24, 2008 at 2:16 PM

Anyone who has ever witnessed someone doing Heroine and who can walk away without the image in their head

Would that include the image of blissful release from terrible suffering?

LimeyGeek on June 24, 2008 at 2:30 PM

@ upinak on June 24, 2008 at 2:16 PM

Still waiting for you to answer the question I posed to you earlier. Please explain it to me.

muyoso on June 24, 2008 at 2:31 PM

Would that include the image of blissful release from terrible suffering?

LimeyGeek on June 24, 2008 at 2:30 PM

Limey my brother is a meth/heroine user. The images in my head will never leave me.

muyoso on June 24, 2008 at 2:31 PM

Pot, not matter what anyones tells me, is a gateway drug. It may helps some, but that doesn’t mean they don’t get addicted to it.
For those who are having issues with cancer, I don’t see a problem with it, as I know a few here where I live who smoke it to help them eat, not for the pain. But the amount they get surprises me and one who was short on cash for food, sold some of their pot cigarettes. That is something I do not condone.

You can say what you want, I do not approve of any legalization of drugs. If you are smoking pot for medical purposes, you usually have a sticker to prove you are using it for medical purposes. But other then extreme cases of cancer…. nope, it should be illegal.

upinak on June 24, 2008 at 2:43 PM

Unfortunately, the Drug Prohibition crowd has bought into the (provably) false notion that if you outlaw something it will keep people – especially The Children! (if somebody’s argument is crap, the first skirts they try to hide behind are those of The Children!) – from getting them. I don’t personally do drugs. I have a lot of friends who do – not that I have any preference for that sort of thing, it’s just that a lot of people like to intoxicate themselves. I’ve lost friends to coke, meth, cigarettes, and booze. Anyone who believes that drug prohibition makes drugs more difficult to get is more deluded than the people doing them. Drugs are amazingly, stupendously easy to get. In just about any bar or nightclub (think 99.99%), you can get them. The costs of getting high are pretty much the same as the costs for getting drunk (there is cheap booze and cheap drugs, there is expensive booze and expensive drugs). If the laws of supply and demand mean anything (and to this group, they should – this isn’t DailyKos), then if Drug Prohibtion was having any effect at all, drugs should be more expensive. They’re cheap and getting cheaper.

You want to keep people off of drugs? Teach them to be happy without intoxicants. Trying to stop the supply is like trying to hold back the tide by building sand castles. The only thing it does is create more crime and violence. Alcohol prohibition built up organized crime in the US to unprecedented levels. Drug prohibition has kept it there.

ErikTheRed on June 24, 2008 at 2:44 PM

@ upinak on June 24, 2008 at 2:43 PM

So because you are completely ignorant as to it, you want it banned from everyone? Pot is not addicting at all. It is not a gateway drug. If anything is a “gateway drug”, its alcohol, as its the first drug that most people take in their lifetime.

muyoso on June 24, 2008 at 2:46 PM

upinak on June 24, 2008 at 2:43 PM

I’m deeply sorry to hear that one of your family members suffers from drug addiction. I’ve seen it in my family, and even more among my friends. It’s a horrible thing. However, the government can’t prevent people from doing horrible and self-destructive things. I know there’s a natural tendency to believe that if we just had more enforcement that we could Win the War on Drugs. Ain’t going to happen. The Soviet Union – a police state in the most literal sense of the word, with anti-drug laws that would never pass in the United States in a million years – couldn’t control their drug problem. What makes you think it will be any different here? The only governments to have any success were the ones that simply executed everyone involved – users, addicts, dealers, smugglers, etc.

Addiction – whether it be to legal intoxicants, illegal drugs, gambling, whatever – is always horrible, but the underlying problems are psychological and not due to the existence of the particular vice in question. Some people choose to behave self-destructively, and will do so with whatever means are at their disposal. The argument here is not unlike the argument against banning guns – people will still find ways to kill each other, unless we get around to banning sharp objects, heavy blunt objects, cars, trucks, furniture, batteries larger than a “D” cell, MySpace, rope, scarves, and, of course, our own bare hands.

ErikTheRed on June 24, 2008 at 3:07 PM

Anyone who has ever witnessed someone doing Heroine and who can walk away without the image in their head for the rest of their lives is either unable to grasp the other persons addiction and think it is a phase, or is mentally challenged.

upinak on June 24, 2008 at 2:16 PM

It seems like that would be an effective way to keep people from ever trying heroin, even if it is legal. Most people don’t have a strong desire to huff glue, even though it’s cheap and legal.

scotta on June 24, 2008 at 3:26 PM

Where is Superman when you need him…………

Seven Percent Solution on June 24, 2008 at 3:30 PM

Anyone who has ever witnessed someone doing Heroine and who can walk away without the image in their head for the rest of their lives is either unable to grasp the other persons addiction and think it is a phase, or is mentally challenged.

upinak on June 24, 2008 at 2:16 PM

It seems like that would be an effective way to keep people from ever trying heroin, even if it is legal. Most people don’t have a strong desire to huff glue, even though it’s cheap and legal.
scotta on June 24, 2008 at 3:26 PM

Don’t forget about partial birth abortion………

Seven Percent Solution on June 24, 2008 at 3:33 PM

muyoso on June 24, 2008 at 2:46 PM

Don’t give me you self pronunciation of a gateway drug. Friends are one thing when you see them do it because you can distance yourself if you choose to. Family, in most cases, you can’t distance yourself.

Go take care of your Mom.

upinak on June 24, 2008 at 5:37 PM

@ upinak on June 24, 2008 at 5:37 PM

I am just saying, all of the things you believe about pot, are wrong, have been proven wrong time and time again, and you believing it is just a byproduct of the massive misinformation campaign against it that the government continues to this day. Try reading about it seriously instead of just believing everything you hear in government sponsored commercials.

muyoso on June 24, 2008 at 5:59 PM

What we should do about the Afghan poppy fields is to initiate our own version of the Columbian cartel’s offer O Plata o Plomo (Silver or lead)

Either the opium farmers sell their crop to us, at a fair price, or we burn their fields. If they play, we give them aid, if they don’t ply they’re cut off.

schmuck281 on June 24, 2008 at 9:39 PM

What we should do about the Afghan poppy fields is to initiate our own version of the Columbian cartel’s offer O Plata o Plomo (Silver or lead)

Either the opium farmers sell their crop to us, at a fair price, or we burn their fields. If they play, we give them aid, if they don’t ply they’re cut off.

schmuck281 on June 24, 2008 at 9:39 PM

Unfortunately, the local Taliban (and other) warlords have already been making that offer to the farmers for some time now. The farmers aren’t getting rich or anything near it here – many of the struggle just to exist year to year, which is tricky when your customers very literally have a gun to your head. Michael Yon has done some excellent reportage on the subject. Two solutions that come immediately to mind: eliminate the warlords and other drug smugglers with extreme prejudice and cause all sorts of political upheaval (doesn’t bother me horribly; they can’t hit us with rocks from over there) or eliminate 95% of the profits and the necessity of doing everything under the table by ending drug prohibition (ironically, prevented by the people who “get it” on gun prohibition) and take out a good chunk of organized crime in our country as well.

ErikTheRed on June 24, 2008 at 10:42 PM

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