Defendant to use Google porn search data as evidence in obscenity case
posted at 1:15 pm on June 24, 2008 by Allahpundit
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Use it for what, you say? Per Miller v. California, here’s the current First Amendment test for obscenity:
The basic guidelines for the trier of fact must be: (a) whether “the average person, applying contemporary community standards” would find that the work, taken as a whole, appeals to the prurient interest…; (b) whether the work depicts or describes, in a patently offensive way, sexual conduct specifically defined by the applicable state law; and (c) whether the work, taken as a whole, lacks serious literary, artistic, political, or scientific value.
Contemporary community standards are usually whatever the jury says they are. Until now?
In the trial of a pornographic Web site operator, the defense plans to show that residents of Pensacola are more likely to use Google to search for terms like “orgy” than for “apple pie” or “watermelon.” The publicly accessible data is vague in that it does not specify how many people are searching for the terms, just their relative popularity over time. But the defense lawyer, Lawrence Walters, is arguing that the evidence is sufficient to demonstrate that interest in the sexual subjects exceeds that of more mainstream topics — and that by extension, the sexual material distributed by his client is not outside the norm…
“Time and time again you’ll have jurors sitting on a jury panel who will condemn material that they routinely consume in private,” said Mr. Walters, the defense lawyer. Using the Internet data, “we can show how people really think and feel and act in their own homes, which, parenthetically, is where this material was intended to be viewed,” he added…
In a federal obscenity case heard this month, Mr. Douglas defended another Florida pornographer. In the trial, Mr. Douglas set up a computer in the courtroom and did Internet searches for sexually explicit terms to show the jury that there were millions of Web pages discussing such material. He then searched for other topics, like the University of Florida quarterback Tim Tebow, to demonstrate that there were not nearly as many related Web sites.
Brilliant, but also kind of stupid. For one thing, criminal law’s aimed at how people should behave, not how they necessarily do behave — e.g., jaywalking — so interpreting “contemporary community standards” to hold members of the community to a standard higher than what they typically observe in practice isn’t out of left field. For another thing, unless I’m misreading part (a) of the Court’s test, the jury’s not supposed to apply community standards to decide whether the material’s offensive but merely whether it’s prurient, i.e. meant to arouse the viewer/reader. You can imagine juries in different parts of the country coming to different conclusions about that vis-a-vis an erotic sculpture or a D.H. Lawrence novel (which is why the Court included part (c) of the test, as a safe harbor for artists), but the prurience of most porn is an easy call and the Google data would have no relevance to it. If there’s any part of the test that the data should affect, it’s part (b), whether the material is “patently offensive.” If everyone’s, er, “reading” it, then how offensive can it be? Although even that’s beside the point since the real goal here, obviously, is to replace the Court’s test with a more familiar one in hopes of shaming the jury into an acquittal. Slick. I hope it works.
Exit invitation: Here’s the data set. Go crazy! (And note the annual Thanksgiving spike for “apple pie.”)
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So where does a search for “Bush” fit in?
Cicero43 on June 24, 2008 at 1:20 PM
Check out the ‘orgy’ spike in 2006.
Did I miss out on something?
cjn on June 24, 2008 at 1:23 PM
“Mr. Walters last week also served Google with a subpoena seeking more specific search data, including the number of searches for certain sexual topics…”
Great! I can only hope they publish the results. It will save me a lot of time, not to mention the savings on (key) strokes I could be putting to better use!
Dread Pirate Roberts VI on June 24, 2008 at 1:26 PM
Mob mentality dictates law? Sheesh….
We don’t need no stinkin’ constitution!
LimeyGeek on June 24, 2008 at 1:27 PM
Anyone who has put in “apple pie” or “banana split” or even “rubber ball” is usually assualted with porn spam. I know I didn’t appreciate it as I was looking for a special ball for my dog. I wasn’t looking for a ball gag!
upinak on June 24, 2008 at 1:27 PM
That’s what they all say ;)
LimeyGeek on June 24, 2008 at 1:29 PM
Yeah, the sad part I was on my Mom’s computer during Christmas and she was standing behind me. Talk about embarrassing!
upinak on June 24, 2008 at 1:32 PM
I just Googled all three terms with filtering off, and wasn’t “assaulted” with porn. In fact, I saw none on the first two pages of any of them.
Hollowpoint on June 24, 2008 at 1:34 PM
Given that there is argument over what exactly constitutes porn (most calls are quite clear, sure, but there is plenty of penumbra), and that there is significant variance over the ‘offensive’ (or not) nature of porn, it seems clear that whatever we’re attempting to decide, the ultimate arbiter is the individual.
From the individual perspective, whether another will take ‘offense’ is an unknown and unknowable subjective standard. To then craft law that penalizes people for such vague and potentially capricious ‘offenses’ is horrendous.
Suck. It. Up.
(OK….not a good choice of phrase given the subject matter)
LimeyGeek on June 24, 2008 at 1:36 PM
2 yrs ago? I didn’t mention that fact… sorry.
upinak on June 24, 2008 at 1:36 PM
Shoulda just told her it was an anti-snoring device :)
LimeyGeek on June 24, 2008 at 1:37 PM
What disgusting rubbish we have to put up with these days and in our face at that. Not the porn…I am talking about the holier than thou obscenity prosecutors. Nothing is more obscene than an obscenity prosecutor. The human body is obscene? That is an obscene idea.
LevStrauss on June 24, 2008 at 1:47 PM
I like naked ladies. Red blood in my veins.
LimeyGeek on June 24, 2008 at 1:48 PM
Porn is for childish losers.
Like going to a bakery and slobbering on the window.
If I can’t get into the kitchen and eat the goodies, no point in watching the bakers stir the batter.
NoDonkey on June 24, 2008 at 1:53 PM
Eating goodies and stirring batter eh?
Pervert.
LimeyGeek on June 24, 2008 at 1:54 PM
I don’t think so. They haven’t released anything since 2005.
SteakRules on June 24, 2008 at 2:14 PM
[cjn on June 24, 2008 at 1:23 PM]
Wasn’t that event what got Obama his election win?
Dusty on June 24, 2008 at 2:16 PM
Nah, should have looked first. I think Ryan’s divorce papers came out Spring-Summer, not the first of the last quarter.
I wonder if it was, perchance, related to Paris Hilton?
Dusty on June 24, 2008 at 2:20 PM
You very obviously don’t get it, and that’s fine. Porn isn’t for everyone, but it’s not necessarily a replacement for “eating the goodies.”
Esthier on June 24, 2008 at 2:26 PM
Must have, though I’m drawing a blank.
Esthier on June 24, 2008 at 2:27 PM
Looks like it coincides with the 2006 congressional elections?
Interesting!!
cjn on June 24, 2008 at 2:28 PM
This is one of those things where the attorney thinks it’s brilliant, but it falls apart after about five minutes of scrutiny.
For the Google data to be persuasive, Walters also has to show that all residents of Pensacola use Google whenever they want to look for something. That means they don’t look in books, magazines, on the DIY network…just Google.
Yeah…Pensacolans who are looking for porn on Google go to Google. That’s all the “evidence” is saying.
JohnTant on June 24, 2008 at 3:25 PM
Pfft. They should have picked more representative words to pull. For example, try THIS data set.
I guess we know what’s on people’s mind most of the time. ;)
wearyman on June 24, 2008 at 3:44 PM
Ooops, that was international data.
HERE is data for the US.
and HERE is the same data set for JUST California.
Pretty much the same. I guess people are people and they want their sex and porn.
wearyman on June 24, 2008 at 3:47 PM
People say this all the time. But I think you’re seeing a ghost image of the Web from a few years back.
Google’s politics suck, but their search queries have become far more relevant. For instance, doing a search on the three words you mentioned and drilling down 2 pages did not take me to any obvious pron sites.
What search engine/ truck stop are you using to log in and find this ubiquitous porn.
To further my point, I suggest doing a search on an vulgar term. P***y is an old fav. Google image search it. Only one picture of the flesh flower.
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Save your ball gag search anecdotes for the swingers bridge club. And I’m sorry you need the web to find a “rubber ball” for your dog. Nice euphamism by the way.
You find pron because you look for it. The last time I accidentally clicked a porn link gas was $2.
Porn finds horny fingers everytime.
The Race Card on June 24, 2008 at 6:07 PM
What search engine/ truck stop are you using to log in and find this ubiquitous porn?
The Race Card on June 24, 2008 at 6:07 PM
What? There’s porn on the Internet?
rmgraha on June 24, 2008 at 7:57 PM
Now, I don’t doubt there is lots of porn out there & lots of adults searching for it. But when they use this annonymous data to try to determine “community standards”, shouldn’t they consider who makes up the community they are looking at? I mean, felons in prison have access to the internet. Lots of convicted sex offenders live in society as well. Kids have access too. Are they realizing that to do this is to allow kids & freaks to determine community standards?
Cheesestick on June 25, 2008 at 11:06 AM
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