Comedy gold: Shaq debuts new single dedicated to Kobe; Update: Arpaio strips Shaq of badges

posted at 2:57 pm on June 24, 2008 by Allahpundit

I’d call it a palate cleanser, but given what the most memorable line is, let’s stay away from gustatory metaphors.

Thus are national catchphrases born, my friends. Somewhere right now in L.A., Kobe’s watching this clip and realizing that this’ll be chanted at him during every road game for the rest of his career.

Update: “Racial conduct”?

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I LOVE America!

ThackerAgency on June 24, 2008 at 2:59 PM

This coming from a guy who couldn’t get a team with Nash and Stoudamire out of the first round, and whose only championships came courtesy of Kobe and D-Wade.

Oh, the irony.

World B. Free on June 24, 2008 at 3:03 PM

The best part is that as awful as the rap was, everybody was singing the lyrics without Shaq at the end of the song. That was hilarious and marketers love anything they can construe into a ‘rivalry’. This will just make the next time they meet all the more interesting. It’s one of the funniest things since Rodman.

ThackerAgency on June 24, 2008 at 3:03 PM

That is just wrong on so many levels…lol. Apparently Shaq claims there is no problems between the two, but I somehow doubt it.

Chudi on June 24, 2008 at 3:04 PM

Shaq took the Magic to the finals at least once by carrying the whole team on his back.

lorien1973 on June 24, 2008 at 3:04 PM

Somewhere right now in L.A., Kobe’s watching this clip and realizing that this’ll be chanted at him during every road game for the rest of his career.

LMAO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! EXACTLY!!!!!!!

Gotta admit though, Shaq is right. Kobe needed him there, now he’s the NBA equivalent of Barry Sanders on the Detroit Lions: a one man show with no hope of winning a title. OUCH!!!

TheGoblinKing on June 24, 2008 at 3:05 PM

Gotta admit…pretty funny

Dirthead on June 24, 2008 at 3:06 PM

Somewhere right now in L.A., Kobe’s watching this clip and realizing that this’ll be chanted at him during every road game for the rest of his career.

This. Is. Awesome.

and whose only championships came courtesy of Kobe and D-Wade.

Oh, the irony.

Seriously. I’m no Kobe fan, but I don’t think Shaq has ever been the central part of a championship team. Kobe has.

malan89 on June 24, 2008 at 3:07 PM

I want my two minutes back.

MadisonConservative on June 24, 2008 at 3:07 PM

World B. Free on June 24, 2008 at 3:03 PM

Whatever. It is rare that a person can come in and have an immediate effect on a team. Shaq had about 2 weeks before the playoffs with Phoenix. They didn’t have enough time to gel.

Shaq was in the finals before Kobe in Orlando (only lost because Anderson missed 4 free throws in a row so that they couldn’t close out Game 1). Shaq won a championship without Kobe in Miami. Kobe was/is nothing without Shaq. I hope Kobe never wins another championship and he won’t likely.

Kobe forced Shaq and Jackson out of LA before he begged the management to trade him before last season. Kobe, tell me how Shaq’s a$$ tastes. You need to thank him because without him, you wouldn’t have ANY rings.

ThackerAgency on June 24, 2008 at 3:07 PM

The Goblin,
“Kobe needed him there, now he’s the NBA equivalent of Barry Sanders on the Detroit Lions: a one man show with no hope of winning a title”

?? You do realize that they just made it to the Finals, losing 4-2, and three of the Lakers losses were in “down-to-the-wire” games. You can hardly call that “no hope”.

exhelodrvr on June 24, 2008 at 3:08 PM

awful rap, he rhymes the same words with themselves, but i also think all rap sucks

but i will say i do hate kobe more than shaq so it was still semi enjoyable

cougfan on June 24, 2008 at 3:08 PM

Hillarious but wrong. I only have to questions:
1) What was Shaq thinking?
2) Kobe how does it . . .?

infidel2 on June 24, 2008 at 3:08 PM

Shaq took the Magic to the finals at least once by carrying the whole team on his back.

lorien1973 on June 24, 2008 at 3:04 PM

ding ding ding ding!

Kobe was allowed to develop because LA did EVERYTHING THEY COULD to get Shaq out to LA. Kobe won’t win rings without Shaq. Shaq already has one without Kobe.

ThackerAgency on June 24, 2008 at 3:09 PM

That is just wrong on so many levels peripheries …lol…

Chudi on June 24, 2008 at 3:04 PM

Entelechy on June 24, 2008 at 3:10 PM

I hate TMZ.

calbear on June 24, 2008 at 3:10 PM

If SCOTUS would just go ahead and release the Heller decisions we could all be spared these inanities.

infidel2 on June 24, 2008 at 3:12 PM

It just sounds so nasty and gross, yulk.

surrounded on June 24, 2008 at 3:12 PM

Shaq and the Magic at least went to the finals and I believe he won a title with the Heat. Who need Kobe and his Japanese Steak name.

MechEng5by5 on June 24, 2008 at 3:13 PM

GO CELTICS!!!!!! Thanks for kicking Kobe around.

eski502 on June 24, 2008 at 3:13 PM

Does Shaq enjoy just Kobe eating his ass…or does he want everyone to eat his ass? This is just a last attempt of a man at the end of his career to make something out of nothing…It really shows his level of class

SoCalInfidel on June 24, 2008 at 3:14 PM

ThackerAgency on June 24, 2008 at 3:07 PM

So Shaq gets credit for taking the Magic to the finals and losing by himself, but Kobe is clearly nothing without Shaq….because he just took the Lakers to the finals and lost by himself? Interesting.

And yes, Shaq did win a ring without Kobe in Miami – courtesy of D-Wade and the 500 free throws he shot in the finals against the Mavs. In the cliching game of that series, a 3-point Miami win, Shaq had 9 points, 12 boards and a block. Wade? 36 points, 10 boards, 5 dimes, 4 steals and 3 blocks.

Yeah, Shaq was really the lynchpin on that team.

World B. Free on June 24, 2008 at 3:14 PM

There was no need for Shaq to drag Patrick Ewing into his stupid rap. Leave Ewing alone!

BrianBoru on June 24, 2008 at 3:14 PM

Who has ever won a championship by themselves? It is impossible to win a championship without some quality players to support you. Michael Jordan would never have won one by himself and he was the greatest player to ever play the game.

SoCalInfidel on June 24, 2008 at 3:17 PM

It’s funny to me… I’m surrounded by way too many Lakers fans.

ErikTheRed on June 24, 2008 at 3:18 PM

Who has ever won a championship by themselves?

Hakeem won in 1994 with a team that started Thorpe, Maxwell, Horry and Kenny Smith. That year he won league MVP, league defensive player, and finals MVP. That’s pretty close to going it alone.

World B. Free on June 24, 2008 at 3:26 PM

Anyone care to give me an english translation?

LimeyGeek on June 24, 2008 at 3:26 PM

Anyone care to give me an english translation?

LimeyGeek on June 24, 2008 at 3:26 PM

Racist!

Entelechy on June 24, 2008 at 3:27 PM

Yeah, Shaq was really the lynchpin on that team.

World B. Free on June 24, 2008 at 3:14 PM

Shaq said that Miami was DWade’s team. It was really a dig at Kobe worried that LA was Shaq’s team (the reason for animosity between them).

The truth is that Kobe is a baby and a ball hog. He wouldn’t be heralded if he wasn’t in lala land LA. If Kobe traded teams with Chris Paul this year, Kobe would not have made the playoffs, and Chris Paul’s Lakers would not have lost a game in the play offs.

Kobe’s Lakers this year weren’t that good until they got Pau Gasol. Lamar Odom is pretty good and you have a veteran running the point. Kobe was, is, and always will be hype. If he didn’t play for the Lakers, nobody would ever compare him to Jordan.

The FACT is that Kobe played with Shaq IN HIS PRIME – and then forced him out. ANYBODY on Shaq’s teams through 2005 were automatic contenders. I don’t think you would think very highly of Scottie Pippin if he forced Jordan out after winnning 3 championships.

Shaq was even dominant being out of shape. He was the best player without needing to work out. If he was appreciated by his team mates (Kobe) he might have worked harder like he did in Miami. But Kobe was jealous of one of the greatest centers in history.

Imagine Magic forcing Kareem out of LA. It wouldn’t happen because they were a team. Kobe is a one man team. Kobe puts the ‘me’ in team.

ThackerAgency on June 24, 2008 at 3:29 PM

Entelechy on June 24, 2008 at 3:27 PM

Seriously…..what the heck was he saying? It all sounded like ooga booga to me.

How about the pertintent quote so I can at least make sense of this post’s context?

LimeyGeek on June 24, 2008 at 3:30 PM

Uh oh. I smell a rap war brewing…….is is that Shaq’s ass?

Dr.Cwac.Cwac on June 24, 2008 at 3:33 PM

How about the pertintent quote so I can at least make sense of this post’s context?

LimeyGeek on June 24, 2008 at 3:30 PM

Look at the caption on the home page.

RushBaby on June 24, 2008 at 3:33 PM

wow, he sucks as a rapper.

someguy on June 24, 2008 at 3:33 PM

Actually we should be asking Kobe how Paul Pierce’s “you-know-what” tastes.

Mike Honcho on June 24, 2008 at 3:33 PM

Look at the caption on the home page.

RushBaby on June 24, 2008 at 3:33 PM

I read that first.

I have no idea about any of this. From what I can make out, these people are low. I don’t even know who they are.

And I’m pretty sure I’m better off not knowing.

LimeyGeek on June 24, 2008 at 3:36 PM

You “sports people” never cease to amaze me. These athletes are trash and only coarsen the culture and drag it further into the gutter. Why do you waste your time being mesmerized by their silly antics and petty rivalries? You might as well go to the zoo and watch the beasts cavort in the muck.

You only have a finite time on this earth, so stop wasting on this CRAP.

pseudonominus on June 24, 2008 at 3:37 PM

ThackerAgency on June 24, 2008 at 3:29 PM

Um….the Lakers were 28-16 when they acquired Gasol. Yes they were struggling with Bynum out, but Gasol was an injury replacement and not an addition.

Secondly, your comparisons are all out of whack. Put Kobe on New Orleans and they definitely make the playoffs. And put CP on the Lakers and they become worse, not better, than they are with Kobe. Who scores on that team? Odom? The Lakers are a pretty bad defensive team, so they needed to outscore everyone and they don’t have enough good perimeter shooters to make a guy like CP truly dangerous. They need Kobe to score the rock to be effective.

Also, comparing Kobe to Scottie Pippen is kind of ridiculous. Pippen was a #2 guy, playing that role to the best player to ever play the game. Kobe was a #1a guy, on a team with another #1a guy. Kobe forcing Shaq off the team is [i]nothing[/i] like Pippen forcing MJ off the Bulls.

And it’s pathetic that Shaq didn’t work hard because he “wasn’t appreciated by his teammates.” Boo friggin’ hoo. He’s a professional athlete responsible for getting himself in shape and I don’t think it’s in his contract that he can turn into a fat waste just because his teammates “don’t appreciate him enough.”

You’ll get no arguments from me that Kobe is a me-first player, a baby, and an idiot for inciting the power struggle with Shaq that forced him out of town and broke up what could have been a string of many championships. But the fact of the matter is that Shaq has no right to be saying Kobe needs him to win rings because history has proven that Shaq needs guys like Kobe and Wade to win rings for him.

World B. Free on June 24, 2008 at 3:41 PM

a one man show with no hope of winning a title. OUCH!!!

TheGoblinKing on June 24, 2008 at 3:05 PM

Gosh, a real basketball genius. Lakers make it to the finals, and they are the big losers, can’t win. What does that make the other teams and players that didn’t make it to the finals?
Shaq 13.6 points in the playoffs per game
Kobe 28.3
Shaq Free throws 50%
Kobe 84%
Assists Shaq 1.5
Kobe 5.4
Minutes per game Shaq 29, Kobe 39
Need we go on, Shaq the biggest cry baby in the NBA.

right2bright on June 24, 2008 at 3:42 PM

Yep. One of the only flame wars bigger than Mac versus PC is Laker Fans sense of divine entitlement and the rest of the NBA and worlds sense of disgust with them.

I think it’s worse than Red Sox versus Yankees.

Vanceone on June 24, 2008 at 3:45 PM

Another chapter in what I call “The Death of Decorum.”

Brat on June 24, 2008 at 3:46 PM

Didn’t Kobe win teh MVP and take his team to within 2 games of the World Championship. Shaq is over the hill. Shaq is a real class guy.

Hilts on June 24, 2008 at 3:49 PM

Cursed work filters!

Theworldisnotenough on June 24, 2008 at 3:51 PM

World B. Free on June 24, 2008 at 3:41 PM

How many times have you actually seen Chris Paul play?

How many times have you actually seen Kobe play?

Dude, Chris Paul is 1000 times the player that Kobe is. You’d be saying it too if he was in Hollywood instead of Katrina-land. Chris saved the entire franchise. Kobe . . . well Kobe shot the ball from his multi-million dollar house built by hype.

Chris Paul is a TEAM player. He gives his team mates the ball in position to score. That’s what he looks for. Tyson Chandler was a disgrace in Chicago. With New Orleans, TC was always in position to score DUNKS (averaged double double). If Kobe was there, he wouldn’t even look for TC.

Kobe had better hurry up. Chris Paul is getting better. Once he goes to a big market team, Chris Paul will be to Kobe what Jordan was to Barkley and Ewing.

I just wish everyone would get the chance to see Paul play before they talk about him. He’s the greatest player I’ve ever seen, and I’ve been watching ball for all my life.

ThackerAgency on June 24, 2008 at 3:51 PM

Kazaam!

Dr.Cwac.Cwac on June 24, 2008 at 3:51 PM

Kazaam!

Dr.Cwac.Cwac on June 24, 2008 at 3:55 PM

That was actually pretty cool.

DaveS on June 24, 2008 at 3:55 PM

wow, he sucks as a rapper.

someguy on June 24, 2008 at 3:33 PM

That would imply that some rap is actually good.

flipflop on June 24, 2008 at 3:56 PM

Wonder if Al Sharpton is going to go after Shaq, because his comments and use of the word nigger in this puts Imus to shame. I doubt it though.

JeffinSac on June 24, 2008 at 3:57 PM

The Shaq Kobe split is like a family divorce. You inevitably take sides with one parent or the other.

My wife took Kobe’s side. I took Shaq. The big man may be a lazy fat showboat, but there is nothing like him. Kobe is great, but so are a dozen other scoring guards.

Shaq + Penny (Penny!?!) = Almost a ring
Penny – Shaq = ????

Shaq + Kobe = 3 rings
Kobe – Shaq = ????

Shaq + D Wade = ring
D.Wade – Shaq = ????

My wife is crazy.

And Kobe, the answer is “YUMMY BIG MAN.”

tommylotto on June 24, 2008 at 3:58 PM

right2bright on June 24, 2008 at 3:42 PM

Your comment reminds me of how Coca-Cola is a superior product to this 58mm circular polarized filter.

DaveS on June 24, 2008 at 3:59 PM

Just for you to see a bit of Chris Paul (knowing that you haven’t seen him play) here’s a clip of Chris Paul DUNKING on this years NBA dunk contest champion Dwight Howard DURING A GAME.

Please keep in mind that this man is only 6′ tall.

ThackerAgency on June 24, 2008 at 4:07 PM

Funny rap with a Kool Keith style chorus. Score one for big Shaq.

Dr. Manhattan on June 24, 2008 at 4:10 PM

ThackerAgency on June 24, 2008 at 3:51 PM

[i]Dude[/i], I’ve seen CP play plenty. In fact, I believe he should have won the MVP award this season over Kobe. But speaking plainly about who’s the best fit for their team, Kobe is better for the Lakers than CP would be right now. West is a better 2nd option than anyone on the Lakers right now, New Orleans actually plays team-oriented sound defensive basketball, and Tyson Chandler is actually a big who does things like rebound and block shots, unlike the incredibly soft Pau Gasol.

I know the CP supporters really bang the drum hard about how it’s so unfair that he toils away in obscurity playing for New Orleans, but believe me, I’ve actually seen him play a lot and I agree that he’s an incredible player. The word is out on how good he is, don’t worry. However, I would definitely stop short of saying he’s the best player I’ve ever seen, as I saw Jordan play and [i]nobody[/i] playing today is as good, or will ever be as good, as he was.

World B. Free on June 24, 2008 at 4:11 PM

Being from Sacramento, I don’t like either one of them.

:)

Bob's Kid on June 24, 2008 at 4:16 PM

Is this what negro ‘culture’ has aspired to?

No words.

LimeyGeek on June 24, 2008 at 3:38 PM

No, this is what we do on weekends. We actually all aspire to having our very own white woman.

Thank you web masah for lettin me speak out of turn.

The Race Card on June 24, 2008 at 4:19 PM

I agree that Gasol is soft. He’s like Dirk and all the other Euro players. I wish the American players could get the fundamentals from the European players and the European players could get some backbone like American players.

But Gasol is pretty good. LA has an entire team that is good. I wish NO had beaten SA in game 7 to see the finals between the Lakers and Hornets. I don’t know if the Hornets would have won, but I would have liked to have seen Paul try.

I remember Jordan in college as well. Jordan knows Chris is good (he signed Chris to his shoe contract). I think that Chris will end up with more rings than Jordan eventually (he’s only 22). Chris’ only problem is that he’s short.

I generally don’t like short players, but he is really really good. What makes him good is that he does NOT make mistakes. It doesn’t show up in sports columns or hype, but when he has 2 turnovers a game, he’s had a bad game.

Most people talk about scoring and assists. I just love when a guy doesn’t throw the ball away – it means he understands his team mates. People say Paul had inflated assist stats. I say it doesn’t matter – he just didn’t lose a possession by turning the ball over. When he gets his 3 point percentage over 40%, he and his team won’t lose.

Some people are amazing for what they do (Jordan, Kobe, etc) Paul – to me – is amazing for what he doesn’t do (turnovers).

ThackerAgency on June 24, 2008 at 4:26 PM

The Race Card on June 24, 2008 at 4:19 PM

How emblematic of you.

LimeyGeek on June 24, 2008 at 4:41 PM

Thacker,
‘Just for you to see a bit of Chris Paul (knowing that you haven’t seen him play) here’s a clip of Chris Paul DUNKING on this years NBA dunk contest champion Dwight Howard DURING A GAME.”

THose clips mean nothing. There are clips of half the NBA players dunking “on” an All-Star. All it takes is to start the jump a split-second before sooner, which (when taken in isolation, like the clips generally are) says nothing about the relative ability of the two players.

exhelodrvr on June 24, 2008 at 4:43 PM

LimeyGeek on June 24, 2008 at 4:41 PM

I exist to meet your preconceived expectations. Glad to be there for ya.

Do you use the word “negro” in public or just at meetings of the local order?

The Race Card on June 24, 2008 at 4:50 PM

Being from Sacramento, I don’t like either one of them.

:)

Bob’s Kid on June 24, 2008 at 4:16 PM

I hear ya! Being from DC, I’m a big Bullets fan. (yes, I said ‘Bullets”)

bernzright777 on June 24, 2008 at 4:50 PM

ThackerAgency on June 24, 2008 at 4:26 PM

Money.

The Race Card on June 24, 2008 at 4:51 PM

Why did he say “White Boy”?

Racist!!!!!!!!!!

Chakra Hammer on June 24, 2008 at 5:01 PM

Kobe tell me how my A** tastes..

I guess that’s what you call Sh** talkin’

Chakra Hammer on June 24, 2008 at 5:07 PM

Re update…yikes.

RushBaby on June 24, 2008 at 5:12 PM

I can’t wait to walk through my office, hummin’ dat baseline ‘n’ rappin’ dat dope rhyme…’Kobe, tell me how my affftates’, and all mah fella cube-rohs wit da head bob backin’ me up, yo.

Biffstir on June 24, 2008 at 5:26 PM

World B. Free on June 24, 2008 at 3:03 PM

And Kobe couldn’t win a championship WITHOUT him. L.A. let the wrong guy go; Shaq won another championship a year later.

RMCS_USN on June 24, 2008 at 5:32 PM

Your comment reminds me of how Coca-Cola is a superior product to this 58mm circular polarized filter.

DaveS on June 24, 2008 at 3:59 PM

You don’t understand the comparison that Kobe took his team to the playoff, and Shaq polished the bench?
The minutes tell a lot…Shaq is lazy, Kobe is a worker. Kobe’s life was screwed up (and may still be, I am not a personal life fan of his), but as a basketball player, superb, a real student, conditioned athlete. Shaq was good. You don’t remember Ben schooling Shaq in the playoffs (more then once)? Shaq’s claim to fame?…they name a defense after him, hack a shaq.
Shaq is a huge guy, but can’t compare to Walton, Russel, Jabbar, Yao and many other centers.

right2bright on June 24, 2008 at 5:52 PM

Chakra Hammer on June 24, 2008 at 5:01 PM

Can’t stand to listen again, but didn’t he drop a “nigga” somewhere in that stupid-fresh jammy?

The Race Card on June 24, 2008 at 5:52 PM

Update: Arpaio strips Shaq of badges.

HA! HA! Couldn’t stand to watch the whole thing, but I suspected the end result would be something like this.

RMR on June 24, 2008 at 6:12 PM

Sheriff Joe to Shaq:

Shaq Diesel, tell me how my ass tastes!

The Race Card on June 24, 2008 at 6:14 PM

Can’t stand to listen again, but didn’t he drop a “n****” somewhere in that stupid-fresh jammy?

The Race Card on June 24, 2008 at 5:52 PM

Yea, but he’s not white so, he shouldn’t be able to use that word.. i’m not allowed to use the “N-Word”

Chakra Hammer on June 24, 2008 at 6:34 PM

Sheriff Joe to Shaq:

Shaq Diesel, tell me how my ass tastes!

The Race Card on June 24, 2008 at 6:14 PM

Arpaio, known as “America’s Toughest Sheriff,” is best known for forcing inmates to wear pink undies and work on a chain gang.

Maybe he will dress Shaq up in pink panties..? >:D

Chakra Hammer on June 24, 2008 at 6:36 PM

lorien1973 on June 24, 2008 at 3:04 PM

You are sadly mistaken. Shaq’s gone no where without a Tanto. In Orlando it was Penny Hardaway, and even with Penny he got smacked down in a SWEEP by his future teammate Robert Horry, along with Mario Ellie, Kenny Smith, and currently NBA Champ Sam Cassell. It was Hakeem Olajuwon that everyone agreed won a sweep of Orlando on HIS BACK without another superstar! Clyde Drexler got traded that mid way through that year. Know what you’re talking about before putting thoughts on paper.

Sultry Beauty on June 24, 2008 at 6:41 PM

BTW ~ All of you that find this funny most certainly are Kobe Bryant haters because you think he raped some chick that had 5 mens DNA in her dirty underwear that at all match Kobe’s DNA.

Having said that, Shaq didn’t ONLY say something nasty about Kobe but he called out Patrick Ewing and Kareem Abdul-Jabbar. Calling out these players was disrespectful and I don’t find that remotely funny at all. Now, if you ran Lionel Richie’s “Hello” over Patrick O’Brien talking dirty in a few voice mail messages, then you might have me rolling in the aisles. But not this, sir!

Sultry Beauty on June 24, 2008 at 6:46 PM

whose only championships came courtesy of Kobe and D-Wade.

Kind of a weird perspective. How many championships did those guys have without Shaq? Shaq has championships without each of them.

peacenprosperity on June 24, 2008 at 7:40 PM

Yea, but he’s not white so, he shouldn’t be able to use that word.. i’m not allowed to use the “N-Word”

Chakra Hammer on June 24, 2008 at 6:34 PM

Do you really want to use the so-called Nword? If it will make you feel better, go ahead call me one. Let rip, I can take it.

Referring to someone as “white” or “white boy” is nowhere near calling someone a “n*gger.” But I am not a fan of racial descriptions, so I also take beef with Shaq but for a different reason than you.

Secondly, in this case Shaq’s use gets the comic pass. Basically, you can use any word you want with me if you make me laugh. My favorite jokes are often the bawdiest and most offensive.

The rap goes something like “a white boy tryin to be more nigga than me…” It’s a hyperbolic comparison meant to highlight the differences between Shaq and Kobe. So it’s apropos despite its less-than-savory wording.

But if one must deconstruct it, I shall. The comparison is faulty in that it compares being a regular white guy to being a nigga. I’m sure Shaq D thinks most blacks lack his nigganess too. He should not be singling out “white boys.”

***

And while I’m on a roll let me kill some other noise:

If a black person calls themselves “nigga” that is not license for whites to do so. It might condone or suggest that whites refer to themselves in some oddly endearing term.

This enduring bit of Republican logic still survives despite its flaws. If one person hurts or insults themselves, they are not inviting similar behavior from others. Moreover they cannot condone similar treatment of other people who may look like them.

The Race Card on June 24, 2008 at 8:05 PM

kobetellmehowmyasstastes.com/net/org gone

The Race Card on June 24, 2008 at 8:06 PM

sorry
tellmehowmyasstastes.com gone

The Race Card on June 24, 2008 at 8:06 PM

No fan of either player. Kobe doesn’t understand that basketball is a team sport and Shaq can’t play the game. Shaq is just a mediocre basketball player who can shove people out of the way.

Shaq’s only talent is his size. Sure, Chamberlain had miserable free throw percentages but he tried his entire career to improve his free throws, even trying underhanded for a while. Shaq clearly doesn’t care to work on his free throws. Shaq is useless outside of the paint, unlike Jabbar and Russel who could hook from 8-12 feet.

And can anyone imagine a crippled Shaq trying to play like Willis Reed in 1972?

rokemronnie on June 24, 2008 at 8:16 PM

If a black person calls themselves “nigga” that is not license for whites to do so.

How ’bout if a black person calls a white person “nigga”? I’ve been called a “nigga” a bunch of times. My young black friends use the word as a synonym for “man” or “guy”.

rokemronnie on June 24, 2008 at 8:19 PM

rokemronnie on June 24, 2008 at 8:19 PM

I feel you on that. It’s getting confusing.

I personally would appreciate it if more whites people spoke up in the face of racially charged language regardless of whom the offender. If someone black says something you find offensive, speak up. If you are unoffended by the term, take it as the user meant it.

What do I do when a Latino guy calls a white guy “nigga” and their black friend barely notices? What about men calling each other “bitch?” What about being called “nigger” by a black person. What about being black but called “white boy?”

Let me tell you a joke I learned in 8th grade:

What do you get when cross a Samoan with a nigga?
Samoa niggas.

***
I have heard the term “nigga” more from non-blacks in the past few years. I have heard the word “nigger” used by liberals more often than conservatives.

The Race Card on June 24, 2008 at 8:34 PM

ugh.

i just posted some pseudo-profundities to answer your question rokemronnie.

Ill wait to see if my wisdom cracks through the cache-jacking and the post shows up.

***
If you’re offended by being called a nigga, then you should speak up. If you don’t I’ll assume it’s out of fear or consideration. Neither reason is strong enough to stand by idly.

If you’re not offended, then take it how your friend means it.

When I hit any local sporting or athletic events I’m surrounded by Latinos, whites and black boys all calling one another “nigga” and “bitch.”

***
Ultimately everybody wants to be black, right?

Here’s a joke my Mexican-Samoan-American friend told me in 8th grade:
Q: What do you get when you cross a Samoan with a nigga?
A: Samoa niggas

We’re all in the same gang homie.

***
I’ve heard the word ‘nigga’ more from whites and latinos in the past few years than from blacks. I’ve heard the word “nigger” more time from liberals than conservatives in my lifetime.

The Race Card on June 24, 2008 at 8:46 PM

Oh I get it…too many “n*ggas and b*tches” in my posts. That’s HotAir telling me, “TRC Tell me how my cache tastes!”

The Race Card on June 24, 2008 at 8:47 PM

rokemronnie on June 24, 2008 at 8:19 PM

I responded to you but my potty mouth probably gummed up the language filters.

The Race Card on June 24, 2008 at 8:48 PM

If you’re offended by being called a nigga, then you should speak up.

Offended more by the double standards of who’s allowed to say it.

Of course the time I was walking through the apartment complex near my house that’s full of Section 8 folks and heard a bunch of black teens say “let’s jump the nigga” it did give me pause.

rokemronnie on June 24, 2008 at 10:33 PM

Actually, I’ve found that the easiest way to diffuse something that might be offensive is to ignore it. I mean really, if the word doesn’t keep you from getting a job, or a loan. If it doesn’t physically harm you, then who really cares and what does it matter? To me, when I see gay people engaging in public displays of affection, it is offensive – but THAT is supposed to be my problem that I’m offended so I ignore it. We don’t live in a society where you can’t be offended.

If it wasn’t so sensationalized by everyone it wouldn’t be that big of a deal. The ‘N-word’ became popular because it wasn’t that big of a deal. In the south when I was growing up, it was just another word that you heard and it didn’t mean anything. I don’t like name calling anyway. But if someone wants to call me something, I don’t really care.

Look, slavery was a bad idea. Segregation was also a not so good idea. But America is the land of opportunity. I just hate it when the greatness of America is belittled by the minutiae of someone taking offense at something that is basically meaningless.

If everyone ignored it, it wouldn’t matter. But if it’s mentioned by someone on TV or radio or even in a private conversation these days (dog the bounty hunter), it’s news for at least a week.

ThackerAgency on June 24, 2008 at 11:39 PM

I can be objective because I can’t stand either one. Miami won despite Shaq not because of him. Oh, and whoever the moron that said Shaq took the Magic to the finals without any help has never watched a basketball game. There was this guy……he was one of the best guards in the league back then……maybe you’ve heard of him?……..Penny Hardaway.

Capitalist Infidel on June 25, 2008 at 12:58 AM

He said “Koby”? I thought he said “Steny”.

186k on June 25, 2008 at 1:10 AM

Given how Phoenix seemed to get worse, not better, with the Antique Diesel on the roster, there are probably eleven guys thinking to themselves: “Thanks a lot, you big idiot–the Lakers are going to be better than ever next year, and Kobe’s going to come into our house looking for blood. He’ll hang fifty on us and they’ll blow us out by thirty points–and if our fans start chanting that stupid f***ing line he’ll just beat us down harder.” Shaq’s not a bad guy, but he really should have just kept quiet.

M. Scott Eiland on June 25, 2008 at 3:30 AM

Offended more by the double standards of who’s allowed to say it.

Of course the time I was walking through the apartment complex near my house that’s full of Section 8 folks and heard a bunch of black teens say “let’s jump the nigga” it did give me pause.

rokemronnie on June 24, 2008 at 10:33 PM

The phrase “double standard” implies that other people’s perception of you plays a role in how you act. Why do you care what someone who would mistake you for a bigot or racist thinks?

There is no double standard if you have balls. I fear that many of the people who stand up to me here when I overstate my case are afraid to do so in their own lives, on the job, in public or elsewhere. So many people have so many words for me here. But I have never experienced this level of candor on a consistent basis offline. All you brave HotAirians need to step up to the plate…home plate.

At some point, you get what you accept.

My response is the same on some topics regardless of the audience. Just last week during NBA finals, I pretty much told a roomful of people that their remarks about David Stern were bigoted. I knew some people there and there were some knuckleheads in the crowd. The truth is still the truth and they all heard it from me.

I know it’s not easy. As a young upstart, I swallowed my words more than once usually to avoid being perceived as “angry” but sometimes out of straight-up fear. Also, I get that some white people are more afraid of blacks. Shoot, I used to be more afraid of blacks.

Now I say: Fuck that noise. Fear is death.

When you keep that stuff bottled up inside, it blackens and metastisizes. Blog comment threads are not cathartic enough. Until more people speak more openly there will be mighty chasms yet uncrossed.

Incidentally the primary negative result of bottled racial intensity is that one gets all clusterf***ed and thinks everything can be boiled down to liberal double standards. It’s hard to think straight when you have to pee. Republicans hold their pee way too long.

Pee freely. Just don’t p*ss on my fire.

The Race Card on June 25, 2008 at 4:54 AM

I’m surprised that Arpaio didn’t slap a set of pink undies on him and then send his sorry NBA ass to the Tent City Jail, just on principle alone. Let him chow down on a week of green bologna sandwiches and do some chain gang work, and then he’ll rap an entirely different tune.

pilamaye on June 25, 2008 at 7:43 AM

It’s hard to find a black person who is just sort of successful once they rise above the poverty. No, usually they are wildly successful and sport large bank accounts. Humans, by their actions, can choose to be their own best friend or worst enemy. I have very little patience with the racial being the prime determinate in how someone will vote. When I hear heretobefore conservative men of color consider throwing their beliefs away to try and get a person who shares their racial identity elected, I pretty much throw up my hands. I’ll never vote for a black person. Never. I don’t care if it’s Alan Keyes against a door knob. The knob gets my vote. Screw it.

pc on June 25, 2008 at 7:56 AM

Classy. Very classy.

It’s no wonder I’ve sworn off the NBA.

irishspy on June 25, 2008 at 10:57 AM