Comments on: Gloucester school officials: Oh, by the way, we never said there was a pregnancy “pact”

By: Gaunilon

Gaunilon — Mon, 23 Jun 2008 06:26:20 +0000

I once attended a small college where the general attitude was (and still is) that abstinence before marriage is right, artificial birth control is unacceptable in any circumstances, and abortion is simply murder by another name. Contraceptives were entirely unavailable on campus.

So far as I recall there was one pregnancy in the 4 years I was there. Student population was roughly 250, gender ratio was roughly 50/50, so over 4 years taking student turnover into account thats 1 out of 210 women or less than half a percent. And in that one case, the father took responsibility and offered to marry the girl, she accepted, and so far as I know they are still happily married and raising the child together.
Another bonus: campus sexual assault statistics were 0% (consistent every year).

Just sayin’.

By: arizonateacher

arizonateacher — Mon, 23 Jun 2008 01:19:29 +0000

As mad as I am over this story, it is increasingly more and more typical. There is a collapse of our culture and the best place to see this collapse is in our schools.

On the issue of teens getting knocked up, this unfortunately is more and more commonplace.

Let me give two examples:

I used to work in the South Bronx…we had very graphic sex ed and gave out condoms like they were free candy. And guess what: a good number of our teen girls were getting knocked up. So inner city, gave out condoms…kids still having kids

Now I work in suburban Phoenix, Maricopa county…Sheriff Joe Country…..we do not teach sex ed, do not give out condoms, can only mention the whole Abstinence thing….basically we pretend that there is no such thing as sex…and guess what…..we have a ton of girls getting knocked up. My buddy taught a class of 40, where 8 were expecting.

So when sex ed and jimmy’s doesn’t work and don’t talk about it doesn’t work…..what can we do?

Bottom line…..Rome is burning…..

Everyone should read Gibbons

By: percysunshine

percysunshine — Sun, 22 Jun 2008 13:18:17 +0000

I agree with the Superintendent. There are only two possible explanations; either it is an amazing coincidence that a group of girls that were best friends all got pregnant at the same time, or there is an imaculate conception going on and in another few months we will have several new candidates for Jesus.

By: abcurtis

abcurtis — Sun, 22 Jun 2008 12:51:53 +0000

So, being able to confidentially give these girls birth control would have helped in a situation where a bunch of them were trying to get pregnant…. how?

VolMagic on June 21, 2008 at 2:40 PM

Agreed. Giving them condoms wouldnt have changed anything. It might have helped if their parents had taken the time to teach them some morals. But, hey, I’m being old fashioned again.

By: tx2654

tx2654 — Sun, 22 Jun 2008 12:18:24 +0000

It’s popular to be a whore now. My have times changed.

By: davod

davod — Sun, 22 Jun 2008 11:19:54 +0000

“This what happens when liberals have children.”

No. This is what happens to children who are taught liberal programs.

By: faraway

faraway — Sun, 22 Jun 2008 03:32:37 +0000

This what happens when liberals have children.

By: Send_Me

Send_Me — Sun, 22 Jun 2008 02:34:29 +0000

This case is pretty simple: 1) the girls are sluts and have no shame, 2) people can’t hide the fact of their pregnancy, 3) the people can’t hide their ineptness of their upbringing of these kids, 4) the teaching that openness is paramount to reason has shown its obvious flaws, and 5) the devaluation of life in the eyes of the students has come full circle since now babies are seen as a commodity rather than a blessing from God, created in God’s image.
Gotta love where our society is heading. Everyone wonders why this happens: it’s the logical conclusion of what we teach these kids in school, on television, and as a society.

By: roux

roux — Sun, 22 Jun 2008 02:12:09 +0000

I’ve posted before this is not new. The only thing is that this was publicized.

By: elvis

elvis — Sat, 21 Jun 2008 23:47:22 +0000

OK, so it was only a de facto pact--

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By: davod

davod — Sat, 21 Jun 2008 23:45:05 +0000

I don’t know whether it was on this site, but I said yesterday that I wondred how long before this was outed as a hoax.

I would look to the reporter who was probably looking for a prize from her peeers.

By: peacenprosperity

peacenprosperity — Sat, 21 Jun 2008 21:18:04 +0000

Every pregnant student and every parent refused to be interviewed? In this warholian day and age? I think somethings up with that health clinic person wanting to distribute birthcontrol without restrictions. My money says the story is traced back to that person and though it isn’t uncommon to see pregnant teenagers, the number in that school isn’t as high or out of the ordinary.

By: saved

saved — Sat, 21 Jun 2008 21:06:41 +0000

As a teacher at a private school, please do not send your children to any American school. Administrators are toilets, and liars.

By: Allahpundit

Allahpundit — Sat, 21 Jun 2008 21:05:36 +0000

THIS IS SO INTERESTING!

Nonfactor on June 21, 2008 at 2:22 PM

Nothing interesting about a story that’s gone global having possibly been partly made up by Time magazine? Tastes differ, I guess.

Also, kindly refrain from wasting bandwidth on commenting about how disinclined to comment you are. It’s equivalent to spam.

By: stonemeister

stonemeister — Sat, 21 Jun 2008 20:26:02 +0000

Entelechy on June 21, 2008 at 3:35 PM

Just comparing reality to legality. Worse than apples and oranges.

By: lorien1973

lorien1973 — Sat, 21 Jun 2008 20:20:25 +0000

Lots of good fishing, then.

Then and how. Bow chika wow wow.

By: GeneSmith

GeneSmith — Sat, 21 Jun 2008 20:03:39 +0000

It’s not particularly un-believable. The State of NH is more than happy to load up girls like this with Section 8 housing, food stamps, free pre-natal care, etc. The girls can go from high school to Ghetto Onion-hood with zero hassle along the way.

By: Mojave Mark

Mojave Mark — Sat, 21 Jun 2008 19:52:18 +0000

As a public school teacher I say please DON’T send your kids to the government school. We just make ‘em stupid.

By: Entelechy

Entelechy — Sat, 21 Jun 2008 19:35:55 +0000

Sorry, that should have been a quote, from stonemeister, with my comments in the parentheses.

By: Entelechy

Entelechy — Sat, 21 Jun 2008 19:34:52 +0000

Putting the toothpaste back into the tube. Words to the wise: you can’t get un-pregnant

(actually, you can – what I love better is when some say that pregnancy is not a precondition; I answer “really, can you be pregnant and not pregnant? You’re either pregnant, or you’re not”)

, and you can’t un-say things! Even the supreme court can’t do that!

(heh, sm, have you listened to the Obama team?)

stonemeister on June 21, 2008 at 2:25 PM

By: ich dien

ich dien — Sat, 21 Jun 2008 19:23:47 +0000

It’s been a long time since I visited Gloucester. Lots of good fishing, then. Now all the talk is about what school teachers/officials and parents didn’t do. They used to have churches in Gloucester, too. Have they gone the way of all flesh?

By: newton

newton — Sat, 21 Jun 2008 19:18:37 +0000

terryannonline on June 21, 2008 at 3:16 PM

That’s the whole point of all this: we still care about it! We see girls denying themselves a better future for the sake of the “here and now”. And parents/teachers/school officials who abet it.

By: newton

newton — Sat, 21 Jun 2008 19:16:40 +0000

Blake on June 21, 2008 at 3:14 PM

Heh!

That was one screwed up parent, don’t you think? Heh!

By: terryannonline

terryannonline — Sat, 21 Jun 2008 19:16:09 +0000

Blake on June 21, 2008 at 3:11 PM
newton on June 21, 2008 at 3:06 PM

I’m actually somewhat surprised they’re receiving bad press. It was beginning to look like an issue Americans don’t really care about anymore.

By: Blake

Blake — Sat, 21 Jun 2008 19:14:59 +0000

Remember Britney’s and Jamie Lynn’s mom? She was going to publish a book on “good parenting practices”, and I am sure she was going to use their daughters’ publicity for her own purposes.

I guess if you count one daughter sexually active since age 14 and the other knocked up at age 16, as “good parenting practices.”