Comments on: ABC: White Europeans training in Pakistani camps

By: Kralizec

Kralizec — Thu, 03 Jul 2008 05:21:24 +0000

These intimations of a creeping danger are among the reasons I have favored crippling Islam by taking away its natural resources, best lands, and faith.

By: Amendment X

Amendment X — Mon, 23 Jun 2008 03:47:00 +0000

Well, when the NYT exposes the intelligence operation for this, I believe that will make a hat trick for treason for Old Gray Whore.

By: Tantor

Tantor — Sun, 22 Jun 2008 15:06:01 +0000

raiderdav: "What is the real draw for these converts? What is it in their lives that is so lacking that they would join up for such a fate?" They are lost souls who are happy to find themselves in a mass movement which provides all the answers, defines their being, gives them value. For more, read Eric Hoffer's "True Believer."

By: davod

davod — Sun, 22 Jun 2008 11:24:59 +0000

How much of the constant Bush hatred 911 and Iraq War lies emanating from the US has contributed to recruiting efforts.

By: soundingboard

soundingboard — Sun, 22 Jun 2008 10:08:52 +0000

Any guesses as to how many of these new recruits are Kossacks and DUmmies?

And how many are operators for Western intelligence agencies?

By: Tony737

Tony737 — Sun, 22 Jun 2008 02:17:27 +0000

Any white Westerner who fights for this enemy should hence forth be known as “Ephalities” or a “Janasarie”

By: dogsoldier

dogsoldier — Sun, 22 Jun 2008 02:06:52 +0000

I guess this puts the ISLAM = race bs to bed. These guys are psychopathic whack jobs.

By: eon

eon — Sun, 22 Jun 2008 01:57:32 +0000

Going back to the 1970s, there were strong connections between leftist radical groups in Europe, the Far East, and the U.S. (notably Baader-Meinhof in Germany, Brigade Rosse in Italy, Renko Sekigun in Japan, The PIRA in Ireland, and the Black Panthers and Weather Underground here), and the various Islamist radical groups, such as Fatah, Black September, and Black June ( better known here as the “Abu Nidal Group”; actual name in Arabic translates to “The Corrective Movement for el-Fatah”). The connection then was the various training camps set up by Arafat’s PLO, etc., in Libya. There was also a long-standing “policy” on the part of the “radical chic” crowd of trendy Trotskyites to do “favors” for their “brothers in the war against Imperialism and Zionism” (i.e., the PLO, etc). Hence it was Renko Sekigun, the “Japanese Red Army”, that attacked the Lod Airport concourse in 1974 on behalf of the PLO, and when Ilyich Ramirez Sanchez (alias “Carlos the Jackal”) held the OPEC ministers hostage in Switzerland in 1975, it was on behalf of Fatah.

This is nothing new, although supposedly Colonel Qaddafi no longer allows the training camps in the Libyan desert. (I’ll believe that after a good set of satellite photos of the region in question.)

A good reference on this subject is The Terror Network by Claire Sterling.

We seem to be going back to the Seventies with a vengeance here.

Not my favorite decade.

cheers

eon

By: Cicero43

Cicero43 — Sun, 22 Jun 2008 00:52:25 +0000

Can we send Obama over to talk to these people without waiting for the election? Only Buraq can convince them of the error of their ways.

By: johnnyU

johnnyU — Sun, 22 Jun 2008 00:20:11 +0000

Great. Black Prez, and white males under extra scrutiny at airports soon. Lovely.

By: canopfor

canopfor — Sat, 21 Jun 2008 23:40:38 +0000

So,this means awhile back,there was a coordinated satellite
launch of a new sophisticated search and track satellite
capability to grid the entire Pakistani region looking and
locking on various would-be Jihadys and their Jihady trainers!

And this new capability is so sensitive,it can detect
and monitor people walking,and catalogue the various
walking patterns of their feet,in any wheather!

And then,at will,or leisure,death from above,anywhere in
the entire Pakistan region to eliminate such threats!

What do you mean it doesn’t exist,damm!t, it should!! :)

By: rockhauler

rockhauler — Sat, 21 Jun 2008 23:13:09 +0000

Sorry Mr. Pundit, I killed the thread.

By: byteshredder

byteshredder — Sat, 21 Jun 2008 22:40:10 +0000

Absolutely nothing to worry, or panic about folks. The Democrats are in control to protect us. Plus we can always use senator Dick Turban’s feather torture, and red carpet Club Med techniques to extract information. I feel safe all ready, don’t you? /Sarc

By: rockhauler

rockhauler — Sat, 21 Jun 2008 22:10:04 +0000

Its all on line..

And in the New York Times, Washington Post,
Time magazine.. .. ..Times of London, Guardian, Telegraph

sorry, hit a nerve…. maybe its was the sugar in the coffee..

By: Bogeyfre

Bogeyfre — Sat, 21 Jun 2008 22:04:12 +0000

Personally, I don’t care why they joined, as no reason could be good enough for me. Hope they get what’s coming to them.

Grayson on June 21, 2008 at 5:27 PM

I’m with you, I don’t why they want to kill us just that they do. For me, kill them before they kill us.

By: rockhauler

rockhauler — Sat, 21 Jun 2008 22:03:30 +0000

The Puzzle Palace by James Bamford.

While you’re there, search books for:
intelligence, counter intelligence, CIA, NSA, code breakers, encryption, surveillance, counter surveillance, trade craft,
covert ops, delta force, special ops, FBI, DEA.

Hell, that’s enough to get you started. Don’t worry, Amazon will suggest book titles that are related to your search.

Oh, The anarchist cook book, if you can still get it.

you want a list of mil blogs?

It’s all online.

By: Keemo

Keemo — Sat, 21 Jun 2008 22:00:42 +0000

rockhauler on June 21, 2008 at 5:34 PM

One things for sure rockhauler; I don’t care what or how “they” shape the news between here and November, my focus will be on the need for America to become energy independent; drill now, drill everywhere we know oil exists; drill as if our lives depend upon it. No way can we allow “them” to take our focus off those who have utterly failed us.

By: rockhauler

rockhauler — Sat, 21 Jun 2008 21:34:25 +0000

Keemo (5:07)

RE: testing out counter intelligence.

For just how long, and just how public has the debate over electronic surveillance of potential covert agents been? Is there anyone on the planet who doesn’t know what we’re doing or how?

You ever play basketball? Have you ever heard of something called ‘flooding the zone’?

There’s a post over on Op-For.com titled ‘How we fight’ with an 8:40 video. Is there anyone in any military anywhere that hasn’t seen that video, or something like it? Clips just like that were on the nightly news for weeks.

Look at all the news coverage about how we’ve persuaded Iraqi’s to change sides, or how we’re ‘helping’ (showing) Iraqi government officals what it means to govern a country.

There have been times when I’ve deleted a coment before posting it after realizing it would start people thinking about things when it would be better ‘those people over there’ didn’t think about it that way.

So here we are with another newspaper article claiming that ‘those guys’ are training and infiltrating covert agents. Even a recent report that covert cells have been activated.

Why would they tell us that?

Yes, the unknown, amorphous ‘they’.

By: Grayson

Grayson — Sat, 21 Jun 2008 21:27:46 +0000

What is the real draw for these converts? What is it in their lives that is so lacking that they would join up for such a fate?

raiderdav on June 21, 2008 at 5:13 PM

Could be many things. The romanticism of the “freedom fighter” so gushingly promoted by the MSM and Hollywood, false promises from the recruiters, a pathetic attempt to fill the void in their worthless lives…
Personally, I don’t care why they joined, as no reason could be good enough for me. Hope they get what’s coming to them.

By: Entelechy

Entelechy — Sat, 21 Jun 2008 21:26:17 +0000

Also, they hate the West.

By: Entelechy

Entelechy — Sat, 21 Jun 2008 21:26:00 +0000

What is the real draw for these converts? What is it in their lives that is so lacking that they would join up for such a fate?

raiderdav on June 21, 2008 at 5:13 PM

- Somebody pretends to love them
- They feel important, when otherwise they’re failed nobodies
- The 72 ‘virgins’
- what aengus said

By: aengus

aengus — Sat, 21 Jun 2008 21:24:32 +0000

What is the real draw for these converts? What is it in their lives that is so lacking that they would join up for such a fate?

They get to unleash their primordial instincts to kill – without feeling bad about it. All their worst instincts are now licenced by the false, evil religion they’ve been initiated into.

By: raiderdav

raiderdav — Sat, 21 Jun 2008 21:13:49 +0000

What is the real draw for these converts? What is it in their lives that is so lacking that they would join up for such a fate?

By: becki51758

becki51758 — Sat, 21 Jun 2008 21:10:02 +0000

Keemo on June 21, 2008 at 5:05 PM

LOL ThaT was hilarious!

Although the story isnt. but I’m not surprised either.

By: Keemo

Keemo — Sat, 21 Jun 2008 21:07:38 +0000

Seriously, this dynamic will test our intelligence capabilities. Sure hope the good guys around the world are up for this test.