Comments on: Alert the BBC — Iran wants to talk

By: Dannic

Dannic — Fri, 20 Jun 2008 00:11:50 +0000

Just severely limit the importation of gasoline and Iran will cry. They don’t have the capacity to manufacture gasoline on their own and they have to import a significant amount.

By: JDPerren

JDPerren — Thu, 19 Jun 2008 19:24:54 +0000

There is only one honest, effective way to deal with Iran and that is with military force. Nothing else has, or will work.

By: JiangxiDad

JiangxiDad — Thu, 19 Jun 2008 14:50:55 +0000

Got my own answer. My utility co. on Long Island generates it’s electricity from oil and natural gas. Great!

By: JiangxiDad

JiangxiDad — Thu, 19 Jun 2008 14:44:53 +0000

They don’t necessarily burn oil. My power in Central PA is from Three Mile Island. There’s also hydroelectric in some parts of the country. I think most are coal-burning, though? DrSteve on June 19, 2008 at 10:33 AM

About 50% from coal, 3% from oil. I don't really know why electric rates are going up so much. I read a comment the other day that it has to do with taxes on electricity, but have no idea if that is true. I suspect it's because the market can bear it. With home heating oil at $5/gal. or more, I'd be better off buying electric heaters for my home. So I think the utilities just raise their prices to match the price of other fuels. But I may be way offbase on this, but I'd love to know the reason.

By: DrSteve

DrSteve — Thu, 19 Jun 2008 14:33:35 +0000

Also, won’t this mean that the electric power industry will have to burn more oil to produce those amps getting pumped into my car? Doesn’t this also need to be factored into what the actual cost-per-mile is?

They don’t necessarily burn oil. My power in Central PA is from Three Mile Island. There’s also hydroelectric in some parts of the country. I think most are coal-burning, though?

By: GarandFan

GarandFan — Thu, 19 Jun 2008 14:17:23 +0000

“Analysts also believe Tehran is using delaying tactics to press ahead with atomic work.”

Nah, they wouldn’t do that, would they?

When Iran finally does make an atomic bomb, everyone will feign SURPRISE!

By: davem

davem — Thu, 19 Jun 2008 14:13:55 +0000

I think Captain Ed misunderestimates the BBC*.
It never occurred to the Beeb that Iran just might be stalling through the use of diplomacy.
I say there is no chance the beeb didn’t know what Iran was
doing. Rather, the beeb supports Iran to get nukes. They support
the defeat of the West. They’ve been like this since 2001.
It’s a bit of BH Obsama syndrome, humiliation would be good
for the Wet’s soul. So they think. They might not even think that far, they just hate the USA and want to see it nuked.
They haven’t understood Iran’s statements that London would
not escape righteous retribution, blah blah blah.
They’re not stupid – just evil.

By: dave742

dave742 — Thu, 19 Jun 2008 13:46:33 +0000

Limerick:
I give up. You are right. We should bomb Iran.

By: Limerick

Limerick — Thu, 19 Jun 2008 13:44:47 +0000

dave742 on June 19, 2008 at 9:38 AM

Then when an SS-18 or SS-27 is reported in the air we should seek to verify our intelligence and ask for support from the United Nations.

By: Johan Klaus

Johan Klaus — Thu, 19 Jun 2008 13:40:09 +0000

How about domestic drilling plus gas taxes to keep the price of gas where it is now?

thuja on June 19, 2008 at 9:07 AM

Yeah, let us tax ourselves into prosperity like Europe.

By: dave742

dave742 — Thu, 19 Jun 2008 13:38:00 +0000

Limerick:
What if Russia thinks it “knows” that the US wants to nuke Iran, and that they would not like that because Iran supplies them with energy. Using your insane logic, then it is justified for Russia to nuke us today, because they “know” what we are thinking, and they “know” our intent? Or is it that only the US has the power to “know” what other people are thinking.

By: Limerick

Limerick — Thu, 19 Jun 2008 13:35:20 +0000

dave742 on June 19, 2008 at 9:33 AM

Please point to my bombing remark. Remember what you said about ‘knowing what other people think’ when you answer.

By: dave742

dave742 — Thu, 19 Jun 2008 13:33:11 +0000

Limerick:

Iran has the right to do with their nuclear fuel cycle anything they want.

No they don’t. They are not allowed to make nuclear weapons, only nuclear power.

Acts, and not intent, is all we need concern ourselves with.

So the US is allowed to break the law and bomb other nations causing hundreds of thousands of deaths because we know what other people are thinking. What a wonderful world.

By: rockhauler

rockhauler — Thu, 19 Jun 2008 13:27:47 +0000

Do you think Congress will figure this out. . .

They have it figured out. You presume that in the end the democrats are still patriots who want to see the US survive as long as they get to be the power brokers running the country.

The democrats know their path to ultimate power requires the complete defeat, the complete collapse of the United States.

They know exactly what they are doing.

What other explanation do you have for the sudden interest in nationalizing the oil industry?

The liberal left is completely content to take over the country an incremental inch, and incremental law, an incremental industry, one by one, until they have it all.

By: Limerick

Limerick — Thu, 19 Jun 2008 13:21:05 +0000

dave

Cho, no doubt, was just exercising his constitutional right to keep and bear arms. The law protected his rights and following the letter of the law is all that matters. Had he announced that his neighbor was soon going to meet a violent end it still would not be ‘legal’ to confront him and take his guns away. Acts, and not intent, is all we need concern ourselves with.

Dave has convinced me. Iran has the right to do with their nuclear fuel cycle anything they want. If Iran melts a couple of million people then we can act. It is the decent thing to do. We have plenty of mops just for situations like this.

By: dave742

dave742 — Thu, 19 Jun 2008 13:19:56 +0000

acat:
There is nothing in Article IV of the NPT that says the Article does not apply to Muslim countries. Your analogy is that even though someone paid for the Lamborghini, the dealer is only required to offer them a Ford Focus instead. The dealers excuse is that the buyer is a “religious nut-job.” This argument is insane.

By: Limerick

Limerick — Thu, 19 Jun 2008 13:17:33 +0000

I’ve never owned an electric car so forgive this uninformed question…….

What is the cost comparison between 35mpg and getting the same mileage out of a wall outlet? Also, won’t this mean that the electric power industry will have to burn more oil to produce those amps getting pumped into my car? Doesn’t this also need to be factored into what the actual cost-per-mile is? Can the power grid even handle 300,000,000 fuel points?

By: Lehosh

Lehosh — Thu, 19 Jun 2008 13:10:40 +0000

How about domestic drilling plus gas taxes to keep the price of gas where it is now?

thuja on June 19, 2008 at 9:07 AM

I’m sorry, but how do gas taxes not increase the price of gas?

By: thuja

thuja — Thu, 19 Jun 2008 13:07:33 +0000

One Western power has the resources to do the latter, but its Congress hasn’t figured out that domestic oil production could be strategic in the war on terror by bankrupting its chief sponsor.

Do you think Congress will figure this out before the West gives the Iranians that Lamborghini?

It’s appealing what you suggest on one hand. On the other hand, if by developing domestic resources you give the greenlight to the idiots who say it’s their right to drive Hummers or consume prodigious quantities of electricity in their Tennessee mansions and we thus waste the oil in stupidity, I couldn’t be more opposed. How about domestic drilling plus gas taxes to keep the price of gas where it is now?

By: Limerick

Limerick — Thu, 19 Jun 2008 13:02:04 +0000

Do you think Congress will figure this out …

In a nutshell, no. It isn’t about Congress and their smarts, it is about conviction. Congress does not have any to spare for solving problems. They need all the conviction they have for making problems.

By: acat

acat — Thu, 19 Jun 2008 12:59:31 +0000

dave742 on June 19, 2008 at 8:24 AM
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Aaaand, this is where the analogy gets really strained.

More accurate to say Iran want the Lamborghini, but can only afford a nice Toyota Prius. Instead, Iran is asking the dealer to sell the Lamborghini, and using a large number of $100 bills with the same serial number as the down payment.

They’re *obviously* lying. The enrichment they’re undertaking has no *civilian* purpose, but would make for a very nice group of bombs.

Yes, Iran could use a good *civilian* nuclear power system. That would let them sell their oil rather than using it for their own needs. Not a bad idea, as that’s one of the approaches Canada is taking.

Canada, unlike Iran, is not run by a bunch of religious nut-jobs set on bringing about another world war so their twelfth imam can appear.

Mew

By: Lehosh

Lehosh — Thu, 19 Jun 2008 12:56:56 +0000

One Western power has the resources to do the latter, but its Congress hasn’t figured out that domestic oil production could be strategic in the war on terror by bankrupting its chief sponsor.

That nation’s Congress knows this full well and doesn’t care.

By: jgapinoy

jgapinoy — Thu, 19 Jun 2008 12:49:34 +0000

The BBC was all for delaying the start of the Iraq War, giving Saddam time to send his WMDs to Syria & Iran.

By: Seixon

Seixon — Thu, 19 Jun 2008 12:43:07 +0000

TEHERAN, Iran (AP) — President Barack Obama met with Irans president, Mahmoud Ahmadinejad, today to hand over the keys to the Lamborghini the two countries have been negotiating over the past decade. Upon receiving the keys, the Iranian president remarked that this symbolized a new era for US-Iran relations – one of equals. The presidents also took the time to joke around about driving the Lamborghini, where Ahmadinejad pretendet to hand over the keys to Obama, but took them back and laughed. The Italian sports car was delivered to Iran during Obama’s first term, after Israel was disintegrated by Iran’s nuclear attack.

By: eeyore

eeyore — Thu, 19 Jun 2008 12:42:17 +0000

Do you think Congress will figure this out before the West gives the Iranians that Lamborghini?

I know giving Lamborghinis hasn't worked in the past. But, Ed, people in the past have been giving Lamborghinis in the wrong way. History is different now. When we give Lamborghinis, the incentive will work! /"Progressive"speak