Getting Osama is extremely important,symbolically of course,but he still is the face behind 9/11 and would be a another success to add to the liberation of Iraq,Afghanistan,and Libya giving up it’s WMD program.

To have Muslims fighting side by side with the West to wipe out extremist is a huge success for the American Soldier and the Bush Administration.

Killing Al Zarqawi the “Butcher of Baghdad” was probably one of the most important high profile kills in the WOT,and
we watched democrats down play the significance of that the
same way they will play down the significance of getting Osama.

The American Soldier and President Bush have accomplished
getting Shia,Sunni,and Kurd to come together in Iraq politically and stopping the vast majority of bloodshed by
Al-qaeda and the militias.
We have representative governments voted in power in Iraq/Afghanistan.
We have infrastructure being rebuilt,schools,hospitals,and
business’s being opened.
Is it perfect and ready for spring break vacations,no,but at least they are headed in the right direction instead of being ruled by murderous terrorist regimes.

All while democrats and their liberal base yelled for surrender and declared the war lost.

The American Soldier,President Bush,and the American People
deserve to see Osama confirmed dead to go along with the defeat of his al-qaeda in Iraq, the central front in the war on terror.

For the democrats that are hoping for a lot of “change”in Iraq if their hero Obama is elected,get ready for a big cup of “06 bullsh!t” that you ate up in putting your liberal heroes in the majority off promises to end the war and impeach Bush:

This is just like the NAFTA game where Obama said one thing to get votes and sent “representatives”(or memo)to Canada to reassure that it was just politics.

Osama definitely needs to go down now or be confirmed dead
if he isn’t already,because Obama and his merry band of idiots will be to busy chasing poll numbers and giving speech’s to do anything substantial in the WOT.

Baxter Greene on June 15, 2008 at 10:33 AM

It is getting really scary how popular this guy is getting
in assuming the presidency and nobody,democrat or Republican,has any idea where he stands on anything and no record to judge him by.

Obama,the American idol candidate,all show and no substance.

Many have speculated that Obama would shift his position on Iraq once in office to take advantage of the progress in Iraq. This adds another data point to that theory. Zebari’s recollection of the conversation sounds at least a little similar to the NAFTA Dance, in which Obama adviser Austan Goolsbee reportedly assured the Canadian consulate in Chicago that Obama only attacked NAFTA as a campaign ploy.

I believe you are being too hopeful. Obama has supporters who know they are benefitting from NAFTA. These supporters would have whispered in Obama’s ear that he shouldn’t start believing his own anti-NAFTA rhetoric. I can’t imagine any big Obama backer being reasonable about Iraq. Such people would have supported Hillary in the primary. The person most likely to whisper in Obama’s ear about Iraq is Jimmy Carter.

They’re, like, reporting news.

gradual withdrawal

If the Dems–including Obama–had their way, we would have withdrawn completely already.

He’ll simply redesignate the troops there as “non-combat.”

That will appease his ignorant base.

If Obama has changed his position, then he should say so openly and honestly.

Exactly, Ed.

And frankly, this is why I get so frustrated with Allah when he finds a past quote of Obama’s to point out that he hasn’t flip-flopped or isn’t pandering.
Obama (or his surrogate Susan Rice) has said something for everyone, and it is up to each individual to determine exactly what Obama plans to do with all of his…nuanced…positions.

If he plans to stay in Iraq until it is safe to pull out, put that in a major speech and say it in front of the Kossacks. If he plans to pull out, damn the consequences, put that in a speech and make sure the Iraqis hear it.
If he doesn’t know what he’ll do, then put that in a speech and stop criticizing Bush and McCain because at least they are trying.

Just imagine it – do any of you seriously believe Obama would do anything that would end up in Iraq becoming Hell on Earth? Yeah right. That would tarnish him, with Bush already forgotten.

I think he would, yes, and with the willing complicity of the MSM. That’s what David Obey’s little Eddie Stankey speech was all about (“he’s screwed up third base so bad no one can play it.”). Anything bad that happens in Iraq for the next 50 years will be GWB’s fault.

Just imagine it – do any of you seriously believe Obama would do anything that would end up in Iraq becoming Hell on Earth? Yeah right. That would tarnish him, with Bush already forgotten.

His decisions on Iraq would make or break it, and unless Obama is actually mentally retarded, he wouldn’t wish this upon himself as a politician.

Seixon on June 18, 2008 at 10:29 AM

You give waaayyy too much credit, sir. Same mindset that watched the T-72s roll into Saigon – what did it cost them? They continued their hold on Congress for many more years, and won the next Presidency. They see no consequences for this action. Have you heard any of the old actors come back and say “My God, what did we do?” when they saw the Boat People drowning in the South China Sea?

This Senator hasn’t shown me yet that he cares to even see a differing opinion or listen to any of us in uniform…

They will just continue the blame Bush game.

I agree with Mojave, I think it’s BS. B. Hussein Obama will pull out of Iraq so fast the Iranians won’t have time to get ready to fill the vacuum.

Leonidas Hoplite on June 18, 2008 at 10:25 AM

I don’t think so. Regardless of donk BDS rhetoric, they know what will happen to Iraq and the immediate region if they do the immediate withdrawal gig. They spend inordinate amounts of money and energy trying to avoid being blamed for bad consequences from their actions. This isn’t any different. If they withdraw quickly and the whole region goes to hell, they can’t hide from responsibility. They don’t give a hang about the region,..it’s the political consequences, they want to avoid.

Just like the Jeruselum thing…

Actualy, thinking on it, does Obama have a serious mental problem? Is he so needing positive feedback that he is willing to say just about anything to anyone? That would be very dangerous in a President.

We have a reputation as paper tigers–Ed.

Clarify, please. Under Democratic leadership, the US has earned the reputation as a paper tiger.

Must we again repeat the litany?
Wilson was the bloodiest fascistic American ever and his involvement in WWI was nothing to brag about as he allowed the butchery of our troops in senseless trench warfare.
FDR waits until Pearl Harbor is attacked before taking defensive measures.
Truman allows USSR to occupy Eastern Europe including Berlin/Germany.
Truman fails to listen to his military leaders and fails to give our military the authority and supplies to knock the Chinese out of North Korea.
JFK turns coat on the Cuban resistance against Castro.
JFK asks Kruschev to just be nice, proving his own ineptitude as a tough guy in showdown, resulting in both the literal wall in East Berlin and the Cuban missile crisis.
JFK chooses to enter Viet Nam when France leaves following Russia’s entry with arms, jets, and pilots. But JFK fails to allow the military to direct the warfare, allowing instead Congress and liberal bias to defeat whatever his cause for our involvement.
LBJ fails to win in Viet Nam, deferring again to liberals in Congress and the media, probably in order to get the votes he wanted for his Welfare State pet projects, another black hole puncturing our nation’s best intentions.
Clinton failed to bring peace and instead strengthened enemies of America everywhere he looked, Afghanistan, Somalia, Serbia, South America.

Zebari is being diplomatic, but it seems clear that an Obama presidency is very worrisome to Iraq.

Connie on June 18, 2008 at 10:27 AM

Diplomatic, as in polite. But he may also be trying to put words into Obama’s mouth. They can play politics over there as well.

If I was the next Israeli leader, I’d confirm what Zebari says. Obama is hawkish on the mid-east situation :)

Obama may be naive on foreign policy, but he isn’t dumb – especially when it comes to something that will affect his own name.

The Left either doesn’t get it or doesn’t care.

Tony737 on June 18, 2008 at 10:24 AM

There is a third possibility; that the Left is actively undermining the nation. They seek a “kinder, gentler, more humble” America that does not lead but follows.

Obama’s not going to ditch Iraq, which is why I still haven’t closed the door on voting for him, although many other factors have been creeping up the last few months…

Just imagine it – do any of you seriously believe Obama would do anything that would end up in Iraq becoming Hell on Earth? Yeah right. That would tarnish him, with Bush already forgotten.

His decisions on Iraq would make or break it, and unless Obama is actually mentally retarded, he wouldn’t wish this upon himself as a politician.

He said he was reassured by the candidate’s response, which caused him to think that Mr. Obama might not differ all that much from Mr. McCain.

Obama has been lying to his supporters to get their votes? Say it ain’t so.

Zebari is being diplomatic, but it seems clear that an Obama presidency is very worrisome to Iraq.

If Obama has changed his position,

Well he is for change and all.

He should consider starting his own religion after he loses his run for the white house. He would make a lot more money and you KNOW that sooner or later he’d get a revelation from God that would allow him more than one wife.

Just a thought.

Mojave Mark on June 18, 2008 at 10:20 AM

This is why I can’t see Obama and Gore teaming up in any meaningful way. They’re both playing the same game.

When he loses, I expect him to disappear into oblivion. It would be a rejection of him personally, the empty nothing that he is, the unformed adult, the conflicted personality, the immature human. I don’t think his ego will be able to handle it.

His wife, on the other hand, may be a Senator from Illinois.