A NAFTA Dance on Iraq?
posted at 10:04 am on June 18, 2008 by Ed Morrissey
Team Obama announced last week that Barack Obama had contacted Iraqi Foreign Minister Hoshyar Zebari and made a nebulous commitment to come to Iraq to see the status on the ground for himself. Today, the Washington Post editorial board writes about their own conversation with Zebari, and readers will get a much clearer sense of the Obama-Zebari conversation from it. Zebari has many reservations about Obama’s stated approach, and the Post’s editors have even more:
Mr. Zebari, who has served as foreign minister in every Iraqi government since 2003, finds Mr. Obama’s proposal worrying. In a meeting with Post editors and reporters Tuesday, he said that after all the pain and sacrifices of the past five years, “we are just turning the corner in Iraq.” A precipitous withdrawal, he said, “would create a huge vacuum and undo all the gains and achievements. And the others” — enemies of the United States — “would celebrate.”
Mr. Zebari said he told Mr. Obama that “Iraq is not an island.” In other words, an American withdrawal that destabilized the country would also roil the region around it and embolden U.S. adversaries such as al-Qaeda and Iran. “We have a deadly enemy,” Mr. Zebari said. “When he sees that you commit yourself to a certain timetable, he will use this to increase pressure and attacks, to make it look as though he is forcing you out. We have many actors who would love to take advantage of that opportunity.” Mr. Zebari says he believes U.S. forces can and should be drawn down. His point is that reductions should be made gradually, as the Iraqi army becomes stronger.
This should remind people about how the Iraq war fits into the greater war on terror. For too many years, the US has hit retreat when things got tough, and not just in the Middle East. We have a reputation as paper tigers — all technology and no commitment. In other words, we can be pushed around. We are on the verge of establishing the first working, stable Arab democracy in the region, one that will ally with us against the terrorists we fight — and one of our presidential candidates wants to bail just in time to let it all slip through our fingers.
Or does he? According to Zebari, Obama may have given the Iraqis assurances that he hasn’t shared with his MoveOn supporters:
The foreign minister said “my message” to Mr. Obama “was very clear. . . . Really, we are making progress. I hope any actions you will take will not endanger this progress.” He said he was reassured by the candidate’s response, which caused him to think that Mr. Obama might not differ all that much from Mr. McCain. Mr. Zebari said that in addition to promising a visit, Mr. Obama said that “if there would be a Democratic administration, it will not take any irresponsible, reckless, sudden decisions or action to endanger your gains, your achievements, your stability or security. Whatever decision he will reach will be made through close consultation with the Iraqi government and U.S. military commanders in the field.”
Many have speculated that Obama would shift his position on Iraq once in office to take advantage of the progress in Iraq. This adds another data point to that theory. Zebari’s recollection of the conversation sounds at least a little similar to the NAFTA Dance, in which Obama adviser Austan Goolsbee reportedly assured the Canadian consulate in Chicago that Obama only attacked NAFTA as a campaign ploy.
If Obama has changed his position, then he should say so openly and honestly. During this campaign, he has emphasized that the military implements policy and that he would order the withdrawal regardless of what commanders on the ground think about it. That’s one of the reasons Obama hasn’t met with Petraeus, one presumes, as the general would certainly advise against Obama’s policy. A change would also have to acknowledge that Obama based his previous policy on outdated information, and relied on his reluctance to get more current data.
We don’t need a dance from our candidates on Iraq (or NAFTA, for that matter). We need candidates who formulate intelligent policy based on reality, and who eschew the easy route of rabble-rousing and deal honestly with the American voter. On national security and foreign policy, we need a candidate who recognizes how to keep America strong and secure, not in retreat and confusion. If Zebari heard an Obama who sounded more like a McCain, maybe he can introduce that Obama to Americans as well.
Update: Soren Dayton and Jim Geraghty both wonder whether Austan Goolsbee is writing the Iraq policy, too.










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Obama is simply a carnival barker. He will say anything and his minions will believe him; even if he directly contradicts what he said before.
He should consider starting his own religion after he loses his run for the white house. He would make a lot more money and you KNOW that sooner or later he’d get a revelation from God that would allow him more than one wife.
Just a thought.
Mojave Mark on June 18, 2008 at 10:20 AM
The good Rev. Wright teed off Obama most when Wright claimed he was just a politician saying what he needed to say. Won’t it be fun to watch the nutroots come unhinged when they realize that truth? Plus, the Pelosi/Reid braintrust,..can they walk it back far enough?
a capella on June 18, 2008 at 10:22 AM
“We have a deadly enemy,” Mr. Zebari said. “When he sees that you commit yourself to a certain timetable, he will use this to increase pressure and attacks, to make it look as though he is forcing you out.
That’s the argument we’ve been making for years. It would be seen as a huge victory for jihadism and a.q.’s ranks would swell, thus leading to more terrorism. The Left either doesn’t get it or doesn’t care.
Tony737 on June 18, 2008 at 10:24 AM
The USA wins, the Dems lose, and they know it. Can we question their patriotism now? It disgusts me how that party’s platform hates America.
kirkill on June 18, 2008 at 10:25 AM
I agree with Mojave, I think it’s BS. B. Hussein Obama will pull out of Iraq so fast the Iranians won’t have time to get ready to fill the vacuum.
Leonidas Hoplite on June 18, 2008 at 10:25 AM
It’s not going to make me vote for him, but reading these behind closed door assurances that Obama seems to be giving people at least me feel a little less pessimistic about our future if he wins. I can deal with hypocritical, double talking politicians, we’ve had them with regularity over the last 230 years and we’re still doing pretty well. What worries me is a true believer that will drive this country over the cliff.
Dudley Smith on June 18, 2008 at 10:25 AM
This is why I can’t see Obama and Gore teaming up in any meaningful way. They’re both playing the same game.
When he loses, I expect him to disappear into oblivion. It would be a rejection of him personally, the empty nothing that he is, the unformed adult, the conflicted personality, the immature human. I don’t think his ego will be able to handle it.
His wife, on the other hand, may be a Senator from Illinois.
JiangxiDad on June 18, 2008 at 10:25 AM
Well he is for change and all.
rbj on June 18, 2008 at 10:26 AM
Obama has been lying to his supporters to get their votes? Say it ain’t so.
Zebari is being diplomatic, but it seems clear that an Obama presidency is very worrisome to Iraq.
Connie on June 18, 2008 at 10:27 AM
Everyone knows that the Democrats’ plan all along was to “own” the Iraq war themselves and be the ones to win it.
Obama’s not going to ditch Iraq, which is why I still haven’t closed the door on voting for him, although many other factors have been creeping up the last few months…
Just imagine it – do any of you seriously believe Obama would do anything that would end up in Iraq becoming Hell on Earth? Yeah right. That would tarnish him, with Bush already forgotten.
His decisions on Iraq would make or break it, and unless Obama is actually mentally retarded, he wouldn’t wish this upon himself as a politician.
Seixon on June 18, 2008 at 10:29 AM
There is a third possibility; that the Left is actively undermining the nation. They seek a “kinder, gentler, more humble” America that does not lead but follows.
johnsteele on June 18, 2008 at 10:31 AM
Oh, and as far as Gore and Obama goes… Gore was the first guy on the block to advocate “staying the course” in Iraq in the case that we went in. He’s buried this sentiment now that it’s politically inconvenient, but that’s what he was all for back in 2002.
Obama may be naive on foreign policy, but he isn’t dumb – especially when it comes to something that will affect his own name.
Seixon on June 18, 2008 at 10:31 AM
Diplomatic, as in polite. But he may also be trying to put words into Obama’s mouth. They can play politics over there as well.
If I was the next Israeli leader, I’d confirm what Zebari says. Obama is hawkish on the mid-east situation :)
JiangxiDad on June 18, 2008 at 10:32 AM
Clarify, please. Under Democratic leadership, the US has earned the reputation as a paper tiger.
Must we again repeat the litany?
Wilson was the bloodiest fascistic American ever and his involvement in WWI was nothing to brag about as he allowed the butchery of our troops in senseless trench warfare.
FDR waits until Pearl Harbor is attacked before taking defensive measures.
Truman allows USSR to occupy Eastern Europe including Berlin/Germany.
Truman fails to listen to his military leaders and fails to give our military the authority and supplies to knock the Chinese out of North Korea.
JFK turns coat on the Cuban resistance against Castro.
JFK asks Kruschev to just be nice, proving his own ineptitude as a tough guy in showdown, resulting in both the literal wall in East Berlin and the Cuban missile crisis.
JFK chooses to enter Viet Nam when France leaves following Russia’s entry with arms, jets, and pilots. But JFK fails to allow the military to direct the warfare, allowing instead Congress and liberal bias to defeat whatever his cause for our involvement.
LBJ fails to win in Viet Nam, deferring again to liberals in Congress and the media, probably in order to get the votes he wanted for his Welfare State pet projects, another black hole puncturing our nation’s best intentions.
Clinton failed to bring peace and instead strengthened enemies of America everywhere he looked, Afghanistan, Somalia, Serbia, South America.
maverick muse on June 18, 2008 at 10:39 AM
I don’t think you can really read any policy change from this… this is Obama Political theatre… he’s just telling everyone what THEY want to hear.
Just like the Jeruselum thing…
Actualy, thinking on it, does Obama have a serious mental problem? Is he so needing positive feedback that he is willing to say just about anything to anyone? That would be very dangerous in a President.
Romeo13 on June 18, 2008 at 10:43 AM
I don’t think so. Regardless of donk BDS rhetoric, they know what will happen to Iraq and the immediate region if they do the immediate withdrawal gig. They spend inordinate amounts of money and energy trying to avoid being blamed for bad consequences from their actions. This isn’t any different. If they withdraw quickly and the whole region goes to hell, they can’t hide from responsibility. They don’t give a hang about the region,..it’s the political consequences, they want to avoid.
a capella on June 18, 2008 at 10:44 AM
It is Iraq that can not allow politicians, American in particular, to dance in Iraq’s public parade or on any Iraqi stage at this point in time. Mr. Zebari would do well to not allow either candidate a private conversation to be manipulated by the press. Before either is elected, things being so delicate, Zebari would be within his rights to chest Iraq’s cards and keep things moving under the current direction of improvement.
maverick muse on June 18, 2008 at 10:50 AM
a capella on June 18, 2008 at 10:44 AM
They will just continue the blame Bush game.
maverick muse on June 18, 2008 at 10:51 AM
You give waaayyy too much credit, sir. Same mindset that watched the T-72s roll into Saigon – what did it cost them? They continued their hold on Congress for many more years, and won the next Presidency. They see no consequences for this action. Have you heard any of the old actors come back and say “My God, what did we do?” when they saw the Boat People drowning in the South China Sea?
This Senator hasn’t shown me yet that he cares to even see a differing opinion or listen to any of us in uniform…
major john on June 18, 2008 at 10:55 AM
Obamas policies are the policies of the “typical” two faced weak-kneed socialist democrat.
apoole on June 18, 2008 at 11:11 AM
I think he would, yes, and with the willing complicity of the MSM. That’s what David Obey’s little Eddie Stankey speech was all about (“he’s screwed up third base so bad no one can play it.”). Anything bad that happens in Iraq for the next 50 years will be GWB’s fault.
DrSteve on June 18, 2008 at 11:15 AM
Exactly, Ed.
And frankly, this is why I get so frustrated with Allah when he finds a past quote of Obama’s to point out that he hasn’t flip-flopped or isn’t pandering.
Obama (or his surrogate Susan Rice) has said something for everyone, and it is up to each individual to determine exactly what Obama plans to do with all of his…nuanced…positions.
If he plans to stay in Iraq until it is safe to pull out, put that in a major speech and say it in front of the Kossacks. If he plans to pull out, damn the consequences, put that in a speech and make sure the Iraqis hear it.
If he doesn’t know what he’ll do, then put that in a speech and stop criticizing Bush and McCain because at least they are trying.
MayBee on June 18, 2008 at 11:16 AM
I don’t care what he says now, there’s no way Obama pulls the US out of Iraq any time soon.
He’ll simply redesignate the troops there as “non-combat.”
That will appease his ignorant base.
drjohn on June 18, 2008 at 11:24 AM
If the Dems–including Obama–had their way, we would have withdrawn completely already.
jgapinoy on June 18, 2008 at 11:48 AM
BHO would be a disaster as President and yes he does have a serious mental problem, so needing positive feedback that he is willing to say just about anything to anyone?
BHO is an extreme passive/aggressive personality type, he is also extremely weak in self esteem and compensates by overweeming vanity and needing constant reinforcement of his greatness. I would think he is cursed with bouts of severe depression when he is under sterss or doesn’t get his way.
el Vaquero on June 18, 2008 at 12:08 PM
Dude, what’s gotten into the WashPo lately????
They’re, like, reporting news.
Clark1 on June 18, 2008 at 12:24 PM
I believe you are being too hopeful. Obama has supporters who know they are benefitting from NAFTA. These supporters would have whispered in Obama’s ear that he shouldn’t start believing his own anti-NAFTA rhetoric. I can’t imagine any big Obama backer being reasonable about Iraq. Such people would have supported Hillary in the primary. The person most likely to whisper in Obama’s ear about Iraq is Jimmy Carter.
thuja on June 18, 2008 at 12:35 PM
Perhaps Sen. Obama has avoided meeting with General Petraeus because it would be impossible to mischaracterize what was said at the meeting. It’s one thing for Sen. Obama to have a different interpretation of what was said in a meeting with an Iraqi official. It’s a totally different thing to come out of a meeting with Gen. Petraeus, a highly-respected and well-known figure, saying something that conflicts. The Senator can always imply that things got confused with Mr. Zebari because of language difficulties. That won’t fly in a scenario with Gen. Petraeus.
Jill1066 on June 18, 2008 at 1:14 PM
I posted and made this comparison a few days ago:
For the democrats that are hoping for a lot of “change”in Iraq if their hero Obama is elected,get ready for a big cup of “06 bullsh!t” that you ate up in putting your liberal heroes in the majority off promises to end the war and impeach Bush:
Iraqi FM: Obama Reassures Baghdad He Won’t Make Dramatic Changes In U.S, Policy In Iraq
http://www.thememriblog.org/blog_personal/en/7948.htm
Iraqi Foreign Minister Hoshyar Zebari said that U.S. Democratic presidential candidate Barack Obama’s campaign managers had reassured Baghdad that if Obama is elected he will not dramatically change Washington’s policy towards Iran and will take into account the opinions of the commanders in the field.
(I think the word “Iran” is supposed to be “Iraq” since the
headline concerns Iraq and we do not have commanders in the field in Iran).
This is just like the NAFTA game where Obama said one thing to get votes and sent “representatives”(or memo)to Canada to reassure that it was just politics.
Osama definitely needs to go down now or be confirmed dead
if he isn’t already,because Obama and his merry band of idiots will be to busy chasing poll numbers and giving speech’s to do anything substantial in the WOT.
Baxter Greene on June 15, 2008 at 10:33 AM
It is getting really scary how popular this guy is getting
in assuming the presidency and nobody,democrat or Republican,has any idea where he stands on anything and no record to judge him by.
Obama,the American idol candidate,all show and no substance.
Baxter Greene on June 18, 2008 at 2:22 PM
“That is not the Hoshyar Zebari I knew.”
Chuck Schick on June 18, 2008 at 6:39 PM