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	<title>Comments on: Obama getting a bad rap on Gitmo comments? Update: McCain rips Obama&#8217;s &#8220;September 10th&#8221; mindset</title>
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		<title>By: misterpeasea</title>
		<link>http://hotair.com/archives/2008/06/17/obama-getting-a-bad-rap-on-gitmo-comments/comment-page-1/#comment-1190409</link>
		<dc:creator>misterpeasea</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Jun 2008 00:21:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;But when you read the many comments here, you would swear to god that McCain was slightly left of Obama. And that is a lie.

wise_man on June 17, 2008 at 2:34 PM&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Speaking of those strawmen you were squealing about.  And those attacks you were denying.

And about that ACU rating, speaking of lies.  You left a little &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.americanthinker.com/2008/01/mccains_acu_ratings.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;something&lt;/a&gt; out:

2006
 65 (Ben Nelson (D-NE) and Chuck Hagel (R-NE) scored 64 and 75, respectively, in 2006.)
 
2005
 80
 
2004
 72
 
2003
 80
 
2002
 72
 
2001
 68
 
2000
 81
 
1999
 77
 
1998
 68
 
1997
 80 

And moron?  An 82.3 lifetime rating puts him 39th among Senators in 2006.

Particular votes where he voted like the liberal he is:

2006, Taxes
 50-50
 
2006, Immigration
 50-49
 
2006, Immigration
 62-36
 
2006, Social: Same Sex Marriage
 49-48
 
2006, Native Hawaiian Govt.
 56-41
 
2006, International: Iran sanctions
 54-45
 
2006, Immigration: Border Fence
 71-29
 
2006, Social: Embryonic Stem Cells
 63-37
 
2005, Taxes
 51-49
 
2005, Environment: Climate Change
 60-38
 
2005, Environment: mercury emissions
 51-47
 
2005, Environment: ANWR
 51-48
 
2005, Taxes: Oil &amp; gas development
 51-48
 
2004, Spending/Social: School vouchers
 65-28
 
2004, Regulation: seat belts
 57-41
 
2004, Legal Reform: Gun manufacturers
 70-27
 
2004, Spending: Unemployment
 58-39
 
2004, Taxes
 51-48
 
2004, Spending: Education of disabled
 56-41
 
2004, Legal Reform: Torts
 44-43
 
2003, Taxes
 50-50
 
2003, Taxes
 50-50
 
2003, Taxes
 51-49
 
2003, Environment: Kyoto
 55-43
 
2002, Regulation: SUV fuel efficiency
 56-44
 
2002, Taxes: death tax
 55-44
 
2001, Taxes: marriage penalty
 73-27
 
2001, Taxes: capital gains
 51-47
 
2001, Taxes
 58-33
 
2001, Taxes/Health: med. savings accounts
 53-45
 
2001, Legal Reform: torts
 54-42
 
2000, Taxes
 56-44
 
2000, International: Troops in Kosovo
 53-47
 
2000, CFR: Brad Smith on FEC
 65-35
 
1999, International: Troops in Kosovo
 N/A
 
1999, Spending
 N/A
 
1998, Taxes: tobacco
 72-26
 
1998, Taxes: tobacco
 57-42
 
1998, International: Troops in Bosnia
 65-31
 
John McCain is a liberal no matter how much you attack his critics and avoid defending him.  I know, I know, defending him is much harder.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>But when you read the many comments here, you would swear to god that McCain was slightly left of Obama. And that is a lie.</p>
<p>wise_man on June 17, 2008 at 2:34 PM</p></blockquote>
<p>Speaking of those strawmen you were squealing about.  And those attacks you were denying.</p>
<p>And about that ACU rating, speaking of lies.  You left a little <a href="http://www.americanthinker.com/2008/01/mccains_acu_ratings.html" rel="nofollow">something</a> out:</p>
<p>2006<br />
 65 (Ben Nelson (D-NE) and Chuck Hagel (R-NE) scored 64 and 75, respectively, in 2006.)</p>
<p>2005<br />
 80</p>
<p>2004<br />
 72</p>
<p>2003<br />
 80</p>
<p>2002<br />
 72</p>
<p>2001<br />
 68</p>
<p>2000<br />
 81</p>
<p>1999<br />
 77</p>
<p>1998<br />
 68</p>
<p>1997<br />
 80 </p>
<p>And moron?  An 82.3 lifetime rating puts him 39th among Senators in 2006.</p>
<p>Particular votes where he voted like the liberal he is:</p>
<p>2006, Taxes<br />
 50-50</p>
<p>2006, Immigration<br />
 50-49</p>
<p>2006, Immigration<br />
 62-36</p>
<p>2006, Social: Same Sex Marriage<br />
 49-48</p>
<p>2006, Native Hawaiian Govt.<br />
 56-41</p>
<p>2006, International: Iran sanctions<br />
 54-45</p>
<p>2006, Immigration: Border Fence<br />
 71-29</p>
<p>2006, Social: Embryonic Stem Cells<br />
 63-37</p>
<p>2005, Taxes<br />
 51-49</p>
<p>2005, Environment: Climate Change<br />
 60-38</p>
<p>2005, Environment: mercury emissions<br />
 51-47</p>
<p>2005, Environment: ANWR<br />
 51-48</p>
<p>2005, Taxes: Oil &amp; gas development<br />
 51-48</p>
<p>2004, Spending/Social: School vouchers<br />
 65-28</p>
<p>2004, Regulation: seat belts<br />
 57-41</p>
<p>2004, Legal Reform: Gun manufacturers<br />
 70-27</p>
<p>2004, Spending: Unemployment<br />
 58-39</p>
<p>2004, Taxes<br />
 51-48</p>
<p>2004, Spending: Education of disabled<br />
 56-41</p>
<p>2004, Legal Reform: Torts<br />
 44-43</p>
<p>2003, Taxes<br />
 50-50</p>
<p>2003, Taxes<br />
 50-50</p>
<p>2003, Taxes<br />
 51-49</p>
<p>2003, Environment: Kyoto<br />
 55-43</p>
<p>2002, Regulation: SUV fuel efficiency<br />
 56-44</p>
<p>2002, Taxes: death tax<br />
 55-44</p>
<p>2001, Taxes: marriage penalty<br />
 73-27</p>
<p>2001, Taxes: capital gains<br />
 51-47</p>
<p>2001, Taxes<br />
 58-33</p>
<p>2001, Taxes/Health: med. savings accounts<br />
 53-45</p>
<p>2001, Legal Reform: torts<br />
 54-42</p>
<p>2000, Taxes<br />
 56-44</p>
<p>2000, International: Troops in Kosovo<br />
 53-47</p>
<p>2000, CFR: Brad Smith on FEC<br />
 65-35</p>
<p>1999, International: Troops in Kosovo<br />
 N/A</p>
<p>1999, Spending<br />
 N/A</p>
<p>1998, Taxes: tobacco<br />
 72-26</p>
<p>1998, Taxes: tobacco<br />
 57-42</p>
<p>1998, International: Troops in Bosnia<br />
 65-31</p>
<p>John McCain is a liberal no matter how much you attack his critics and avoid defending him.  I know, I know, defending him is much harder.</p>
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		<title>By: rockmom</title>
		<link>http://hotair.com/archives/2008/06/17/obama-getting-a-bad-rap-on-gitmo-comments/comment-page-1/#comment-1190197</link>
		<dc:creator>rockmom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Jun 2008 22:14:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Obama is inexplicably still spouting the bromides that are articles of faith to the nutroots but will not sell to the general electorate.  Maybe he really does believe this stuff.  But he still should be smart enough to understand that he needs to shade it a little better for the masses.  He is giving McCain way too much material to brand him as weak and naive.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Obama is inexplicably still spouting the bromides that are articles of faith to the nutroots but will not sell to the general electorate.  Maybe he really does believe this stuff.  But he still should be smart enough to understand that he needs to shade it a little better for the masses.  He is giving McCain way too much material to brand him as weak and naive.</p>
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		<title>By: Steve Z</title>
		<link>http://hotair.com/archives/2008/06/17/obama-getting-a-bad-rap-on-gitmo-comments/comment-page-1/#comment-1190020</link>
		<dc:creator>Steve Z</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Jun 2008 20:49:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The rights afforded by the United States Constitution apply only to citizens of the United States. Terrorists captured in Afghanistan while plotting to kill Americans are not citizens of the United States. Therefore they do not have rights under the United States Constitution.

What part of this does Barack Obama, who claims to be a professor of constitutional law, not understand?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The rights afforded by the United States Constitution apply only to citizens of the United States. Terrorists captured in Afghanistan while plotting to kill Americans are not citizens of the United States. Therefore they do not have rights under the United States Constitution.</p>
<p>What part of this does Barack Obama, who claims to be a professor of constitutional law, not understand?</p>
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		<title>By: saus</title>
		<link>http://hotair.com/archives/2008/06/17/obama-getting-a-bad-rap-on-gitmo-comments/comment-page-1/#comment-1189850</link>
		<dc:creator>saus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Jun 2008 19:28:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>McCain knows counter-insurgency, this is what he needs a little guerrila warfare with nice packaging. Obama is a big baby, he&#039;s in the big ring now - bodyblows based on his own wacked out policies everyday from now until election.. and we&#039;ll see who&#039;s tired &amp; old in November imho.

If Obama wants 50 states, then set fires for him in all 50 and let him &amp; his team run around all day putting them out.

And forget Obama&#039;s second grader views on these weighty topics, All I see is the McCain camp push on this leading online media today, he&#039;s also got a major speech lined up on energy as I learned from AP. Bravo! McCain needs noise, all day noise in the media, who cares if liberals get their buns tight - the more they yelp to defend the false messiah the better it looks on TV.

Carpe Diem Team McCain - Every day, day in day out.. Lead the message every morning and hammer it home every night with reps on the tv shows.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>McCain knows counter-insurgency, this is what he needs a little guerrila warfare with nice packaging. Obama is a big baby, he&#8217;s in the big ring now &#8211; bodyblows based on his own wacked out policies everyday from now until election.. and we&#8217;ll see who&#8217;s tired &amp; old in November imho.</p>
<p>If Obama wants 50 states, then set fires for him in all 50 and let him &amp; his team run around all day putting them out.</p>
<p>And forget Obama&#8217;s second grader views on these weighty topics, All I see is the McCain camp push on this leading online media today, he&#8217;s also got a major speech lined up on energy as I learned from AP. Bravo! McCain needs noise, all day noise in the media, who cares if liberals get their buns tight &#8211; the more they yelp to defend the false messiah the better it looks on TV.</p>
<p>Carpe Diem Team McCain &#8211; Every day, day in day out.. Lead the message every morning and hammer it home every night with reps on the tv shows.</p>
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		<title>By: drjohn</title>
		<link>http://hotair.com/archives/2008/06/17/obama-getting-a-bad-rap-on-gitmo-comments/comment-page-1/#comment-1189793</link>
		<dc:creator>drjohn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Jun 2008 19:06:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We let Osama get away because we were &quot;distracted&quot;??


By what? &lt;strong&gt;&lt;em&gt;Iraq?&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We let Osama get away because we were &#8220;distracted&#8221;??</p>
<p>By what? <strong><em>Iraq?</em></strong></p>
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		<title>By: JiangxiDad</title>
		<link>http://hotair.com/archives/2008/06/17/obama-getting-a-bad-rap-on-gitmo-comments/comment-page-1/#comment-1189766</link>
		<dc:creator>JiangxiDad</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Jun 2008 18:47:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;wise_man on June 17, 2008 at 2:34 PM&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Because some think not voting for McCain sends the right message, and that Obama is not that dangerous.

I totally disagree with the second part of that sentiment, so I&#039;m not sympathetic to their overall argument.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>wise_man on June 17, 2008 at 2:34 PM</p></blockquote>
<p>Because some think not voting for McCain sends the right message, and that Obama is not that dangerous.</p>
<p>I totally disagree with the second part of that sentiment, so I&#8217;m not sympathetic to their overall argument.</p>
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		<title>By: BohicaTwentyTwo</title>
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		<dc:creator>BohicaTwentyTwo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Jun 2008 18:46:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;In a reference sure to further rankle the Obama campaign, Scheunemann pointed to the famous “3 a.m. phone call” ad used by Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton (N.Y.) during the Democratic nomination battle as a way of painting Obama as naïve on national security.

“I guess his response would be to call the lawyers and the Justice Department,” Scheunemann said.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Ba-Zing!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>In a reference sure to further rankle the Obama campaign, Scheunemann pointed to the famous “3 a.m. phone call” ad used by Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton (N.Y.) during the Democratic nomination battle as a way of painting Obama as naïve on national security.</p>
<p>“I guess his response would be to call the lawyers and the Justice Department,” Scheunemann said.</p></blockquote>
<p>Ba-Zing!</p>
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		<title>By: kirkill</title>
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		<dc:creator>kirkill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Jun 2008 18:34:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;I cannot accept any attorney who is not governed by sharia [Islamic] law. I will represent myself. I will not be represented by anybody even if he is a Muslim, because he will be sworn to your American Constitution. - KSM&lt;/blockquote&gt;

It&#039;s so simple, Obama means to TORTURE the terrorists by subjecting them to our courts!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>I cannot accept any attorney who is not governed by sharia [Islamic] law. I will represent myself. I will not be represented by anybody even if he is a Muslim, because he will be sworn to your American Constitution. &#8211; KSM</p></blockquote>
<p>It&#8217;s so simple, Obama means to TORTURE the terrorists by subjecting them to our courts!</p>
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		<title>By: wise_man</title>
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		<dc:creator>wise_man</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Jun 2008 18:34:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes, michaelo. But when you read the many comments here, you would swear to god that McCain was slightly left of Obama. And that is a lie.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, michaelo. But when you read the many comments here, you would swear to god that McCain was slightly left of Obama. And that is a lie.</p>
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		<title>By: michaelo</title>
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		<dc:creator>michaelo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Jun 2008 18:33:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>wise-man; McCain&#039;s &#039;improved&#039; rating was based on 10 of 25 determining votes; he missed 15 of them due to campaigning.  so the improvement is not statistically singnificant.  

The most you could really call McCain is &#039;moderate-right&#039; and even that is pushing it.  Still, it beats all hollow Obama&#039;s &#039;extreme-left&#039; that cannot be contested.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>wise-man; McCain&#8217;s &#8216;improved&#8217; rating was based on 10 of 25 determining votes; he missed 15 of them due to campaigning.  so the improvement is not statistically singnificant.  </p>
<p>The most you could really call McCain is &#8216;moderate-right&#8217; and even that is pushing it.  Still, it beats all hollow Obama&#8217;s &#8216;extreme-left&#8217; that cannot be contested.</p>
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		<title>By: wise_man</title>
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		<dc:creator>wise_man</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Jun 2008 18:32:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Your list also contains a lot of lies and half-truths.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Your list also contains a lot of lies and half-truths.</p>
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		<title>By: JiangxiDad</title>
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		<dc:creator>JiangxiDad</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Jun 2008 18:28:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;wise_man on June 17, 2008 at 2:22 PM&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Saying what his ACU score is doesn&#039;t refute

&lt;blockquote&gt;McCain-Feingold. McCain-Lieberman. McCain-Kennedy. Unconstitutional restrictions on free speech, buying the global warming hoax with our money, and giving amnesty to illegal alien criminals.

Preventing us from drilling our own oil. Demagoging “obscene profits.” Implying that being a gummint worker all your life is noble and good, while working in the private sector is unseemly. Flip-flopping on any number of issues, like tax cuts, and amnesty, and drilling.

Being in bed with lobbyists while bragging about not being influenced by lobbyists. Wanting gummint to limit how much money we can earn.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

As I said, I&#039;ll vote for him, but McCain is far from the pure driven snow.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>wise_man on June 17, 2008 at 2:22 PM</p></blockquote>
<p>Saying what his ACU score is doesn&#8217;t refute</p>
<blockquote><p>McCain-Feingold. McCain-Lieberman. McCain-Kennedy. Unconstitutional restrictions on free speech, buying the global warming hoax with our money, and giving amnesty to illegal alien criminals.</p>
<p>Preventing us from drilling our own oil. Demagoging “obscene profits.” Implying that being a gummint worker all your life is noble and good, while working in the private sector is unseemly. Flip-flopping on any number of issues, like tax cuts, and amnesty, and drilling.</p>
<p>Being in bed with lobbyists while bragging about not being influenced by lobbyists. Wanting gummint to limit how much money we can earn.</p></blockquote>
<p>As I said, I&#8217;ll vote for him, but McCain is far from the pure driven snow.</p>
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		<title>By: MayBee</title>
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		<dc:creator>MayBee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Jun 2008 18:27:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;It means that he’s more concerned about his perception of how America looks based on all those chanting angry muslims than in actually protecting America.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Exactly.
How many times does he have to say America is hated because we don&#039;t act like equals with the rest of the world, before we realize his goal is to make us &quot;equal&quot;.
It&#039;s like Barney. We are all going to be special, every nation. That&#039;s what he thinks will make us safe.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>It means that he’s more concerned about his perception of how America looks based on all those chanting angry muslims than in actually protecting America.</p></blockquote>
<p>Exactly.<br />
How many times does he have to say America is hated because we don&#8217;t act like equals with the rest of the world, before we realize his goal is to make us &#8220;equal&#8221;.<br />
It&#8217;s like Barney. We are all going to be special, every nation. That&#8217;s what he thinks will make us safe.</p>
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		<title>By: wise_man</title>
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		<dc:creator>wise_man</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Jun 2008 18:22:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;This isn’t the general public here. Nobody here is simply going to listen to some guy at HA say McCain is a liberal and then go out and vote for Obama. And nobody is going to listen to you saying “that’s a lie” and vote for McCain. Here the candidate gets dissected, warts and all, and I suspect most people will end up voting for the lesser of two evils.
&lt;strong&gt;JiangxiDad&lt;/strong&gt; on June 17, 2008 at 2:00 PM&lt;/blockquote&gt;

It is their goal to trash talk McCain, to lie about him, to name call anyone who provides the proof that they are lieing and speak up when they do so. This is what they want. Just like the democrats, they want people to get disgusted with McCain, not vote and help to elect Obama. Because every vote will be counted. And the votes for Obama will be counted against the votes for McCain. They, like the democrats want McCain to loose. There is a place for them to go as well. The liberal websites who want Obama to win. Maybe&lt;em&gt; they &lt;/em&gt;should go there for the next 5 months.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>This isn’t the general public here. Nobody here is simply going to listen to some guy at HA say McCain is a liberal and then go out and vote for Obama. And nobody is going to listen to you saying “that’s a lie” and vote for McCain. Here the candidate gets dissected, warts and all, and I suspect most people will end up voting for the lesser of two evils.<br />
<strong>JiangxiDad</strong> on June 17, 2008 at 2:00 PM</p></blockquote>
<p>It is their goal to trash talk McCain, to lie about him, to name call anyone who provides the proof that they are lieing and speak up when they do so. This is what they want. Just like the democrats, they want people to get disgusted with McCain, not vote and help to elect Obama. Because every vote will be counted. And the votes for Obama will be counted against the votes for McCain. They, like the democrats want McCain to loose. There is a place for them to go as well. The liberal websites who want Obama to win. Maybe<em> they </em>should go there for the next 5 months.</p>
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		<title>By: Lockstein13</title>
		<link>http://hotair.com/archives/2008/06/17/obama-getting-a-bad-rap-on-gitmo-comments/comment-page-1/#comment-1189715</link>
		<dc:creator>Lockstein13</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Jun 2008 18:21:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Randy Scheunemann, McCain’s foreign policy adviser, said Obama represents &lt;em&gt;“the perfect manifestation of a Sept. 10 mindset.”&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Simply.  Beautiful.

I can see the ad already:

&lt;em&gt;Obama&#039;s terrorists-as-common-criminals soundbite.

Interrupt the visual repeatedly with a blank screen having only two words: &lt;strong&gt;&quot;September 10th.&quot;&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/em&gt;

Heh.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Randy Scheunemann, McCain’s foreign policy adviser, said Obama represents <em>“the perfect manifestation of a Sept. 10 mindset.”</em></p></blockquote>
<p>Simply.  Beautiful.</p>
<p>I can see the ad already:</p>
<p><em>Obama&#8217;s terrorists-as-common-criminals soundbite.</p>
<p>Interrupt the visual repeatedly with a blank screen having only two words: <strong>&#8220;September 10th.&#8221;</strong></em></p>
<p>Heh.</p>
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		<title>By: JiangxiDad</title>
		<link>http://hotair.com/archives/2008/06/17/obama-getting-a-bad-rap-on-gitmo-comments/comment-page-1/#comment-1189714</link>
		<dc:creator>JiangxiDad</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Jun 2008 18:21:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Obama getting a bad rap on Gitmo comments?&lt;/blockquote&gt; 

I want Obama to lose. The Constitution is not a suicide pact. He and the voters that want to go down that path with him must be stopped.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Obama getting a bad rap on Gitmo comments?</p></blockquote>
<p>I want Obama to lose. The Constitution is not a suicide pact. He and the voters that want to go down that path with him must be stopped.</p>
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		<title>By: wise_man</title>
		<link>http://hotair.com/archives/2008/06/17/obama-getting-a-bad-rap-on-gitmo-comments/comment-page-1/#comment-1189704</link>
		<dc:creator>wise_man</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Jun 2008 18:18:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;And yes, he is a liberal, no matter how much you attack his critics instead of defending him. Nah, he’s not a liberal. And you’re not a moron.

&lt;strong&gt;misterpeasea &lt;/strong&gt;on June 17, 2008 at 2:05 PM&lt;/blockquote&gt;

And you&#039;re wrong .... again.
&lt;blockquote&gt;
The American Conservative Union has released its report on Congress for 2007, and John McCain will welcome the results. Despite missing a number of votes while campaigning for President, McCain voted often enough to win &lt;a href=&quot;http://hotair.com/archives/2008/05/14/acu-releases-2007-ratings-mccain-gets-a-b/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;a rating of 80,&lt;/a&gt; a significant improvement over the 65 he got in 2006.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

So kindly don&#039;t lie about McCain ... again. And kindly don&#039;t lie about me and what I do here .... again.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>And yes, he is a liberal, no matter how much you attack his critics instead of defending him. Nah, he’s not a liberal. And you’re not a moron.</p>
<p><strong>misterpeasea </strong>on June 17, 2008 at 2:05 PM</p></blockquote>
<p>And you&#8217;re wrong &#8230;. again.</p>
<blockquote><p>
The American Conservative Union has released its report on Congress for 2007, and John McCain will welcome the results. Despite missing a number of votes while campaigning for President, McCain voted often enough to win <a href="http://hotair.com/archives/2008/05/14/acu-releases-2007-ratings-mccain-gets-a-b/" rel="nofollow">a rating of 80,</a> a significant improvement over the 65 he got in 2006.</p></blockquote>
<p>So kindly don&#8217;t lie about McCain &#8230; again. And kindly don&#8217;t lie about me and what I do here &#8230;. again.</p>
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		<title>By: Texas Gal</title>
		<link>http://hotair.com/archives/2008/06/17/obama-getting-a-bad-rap-on-gitmo-comments/comment-page-1/#comment-1189703</link>
		<dc:creator>Texas Gal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Jun 2008 18:18:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;What does this mean, though? “[W]e have destroyed our credibility when it comes to rule of law all around the world [by not putting the detainees on trial], and given a huge boost to terrorist recruitment in countries that say, ‘Look, this is how the United States treats Muslims.’”&lt;/blockquote&gt;

It means that he&#039;s more concerned about his perception of how America looks based on all those chanting angry muslims than in actually protecting America. 

His point about increasing troops in Afghanistan and at the same time not acknowledging we are fighting the same terrorists in Iraq therefore we need to leave is in line with the liberal POV. The enemy is those that attacked us on 9/11, none of the other attacks previous to 9/11 matter because the only one on the homeland soil was the &#039;93 WTC bombing and that one has been prosecuted. In other words, the danger is not an ideology that has been growing and dates at least as far back as Beirut. It&#039;s just a few miscreants. And we are making more of them by making muslims angry. 

If we stopped making them angry, they would stop attacking us and the world would once again love us the way did under Clinton.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>What does this mean, though? “[W]e have destroyed our credibility when it comes to rule of law all around the world [by not putting the detainees on trial], and given a huge boost to terrorist recruitment in countries that say, ‘Look, this is how the United States treats Muslims.’”</p></blockquote>
<p>It means that he&#8217;s more concerned about his perception of how America looks based on all those chanting angry muslims than in actually protecting America. </p>
<p>His point about increasing troops in Afghanistan and at the same time not acknowledging we are fighting the same terrorists in Iraq therefore we need to leave is in line with the liberal POV. The enemy is those that attacked us on 9/11, none of the other attacks previous to 9/11 matter because the only one on the homeland soil was the &#8216;93 WTC bombing and that one has been prosecuted. In other words, the danger is not an ideology that has been growing and dates at least as far back as Beirut. It&#8217;s just a few miscreants. And we are making more of them by making muslims angry. </p>
<p>If we stopped making them angry, they would stop attacking us and the world would once again love us the way did under Clinton.</p>
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		<title>By: swami</title>
		<link>http://hotair.com/archives/2008/06/17/obama-getting-a-bad-rap-on-gitmo-comments/comment-page-1/#comment-1189702</link>
		<dc:creator>swami</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Jun 2008 18:17:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>ps to the McCain campaign. You are right on this, but people balk at the words “pre 9/11 mindset”. That’s the kind of talk that hurt Rudy. Describe the mindset, but don’t invoke 9/11 any more than you have to.

MayBee on June 17, 2008 at 2:06 PM

I disagree. It was true for Rudy, but not for McCain. It&#039;s all Rudy talked about because it was his finest moment.

McCain is free to club Obama with it as much as he wants.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ps to the McCain campaign. You are right on this, but people balk at the words “pre 9/11 mindset”. That’s the kind of talk that hurt Rudy. Describe the mindset, but don’t invoke 9/11 any more than you have to.</p>
<p>MayBee on June 17, 2008 at 2:06 PM</p>
<p>I disagree. It was true for Rudy, but not for McCain. It&#8217;s all Rudy talked about because it was his finest moment.</p>
<p>McCain is free to club Obama with it as much as he wants.</p>
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		<title>By: Snake307</title>
		<link>http://hotair.com/archives/2008/06/17/obama-getting-a-bad-rap-on-gitmo-comments/comment-page-1/#comment-1189701</link>
		<dc:creator>Snake307</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Jun 2008 18:17:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What did McCain expect to happen when he proposed closing Club  Gitmo? Did he think that we&#039;d just hold the Terrorists in Mississippi without trial? 

McCain&#039;s outrage on this is like most of his campaign, phony.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What did McCain expect to happen when he proposed closing Club  Gitmo? Did he think that we&#8217;d just hold the Terrorists in Mississippi without trial? </p>
<p>McCain&#8217;s outrage on this is like most of his campaign, phony.</p>
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		<title>By: ilitigant</title>
		<link>http://hotair.com/archives/2008/06/17/obama-getting-a-bad-rap-on-gitmo-comments/comment-page-1/#comment-1189692</link>
		<dc:creator>ilitigant</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Jun 2008 18:14:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Said so well: http://www.redstate.com/blogs/ilitigant/2008/jun/17/a_september_10th_mindset

Stick it to him: http://www.doomedreport.com</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Said so well: <a href="http://www.redstate.com/blogs/ilitigant/2008/jun/17/a_september_10th_mindset" rel="nofollow">http://www.redstate.com/blogs/ilitigant/2008/jun/17/a_september_10th_mindset</a></p>
<p>Stick it to him: <a href="http://www.doomedreport.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.doomedreport.com</a></p>
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		<title>By: trubble</title>
		<link>http://hotair.com/archives/2008/06/17/obama-getting-a-bad-rap-on-gitmo-comments/comment-page-1/#comment-1189691</link>
		<dc:creator>trubble</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Jun 2008 18:13:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;It&#039;s unfortunate, I think, during the initial push into Afghanistan we let him (Bin Laden) slip away because we were distracted.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

That&#039;s Obama at about 1:40 mark. Just one problem, the tired lefty argument that the war in Iraq is a distraction only works if you are actually fighting a war in Iraq, which we weren&#039;t during the initial push into Afghanistan. This guy is a babbling idiot. Get him off the teleprompter and take him apart rhetorically.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>It&#8217;s unfortunate, I think, during the initial push into Afghanistan we let him (Bin Laden) slip away because we were distracted.</p></blockquote>
<p>That&#8217;s Obama at about 1:40 mark. Just one problem, the tired lefty argument that the war in Iraq is a distraction only works if you are actually fighting a war in Iraq, which we weren&#8217;t during the initial push into Afghanistan. This guy is a babbling idiot. Get him off the teleprompter and take him apart rhetorically.</p>
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		<title>By: doubleplusundead</title>
		<link>http://hotair.com/archives/2008/06/17/obama-getting-a-bad-rap-on-gitmo-comments/comment-page-1/#comment-1189682</link>
		<dc:creator>doubleplusundead</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Jun 2008 18:09:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Update: Maverick knows red meat when he tastes it.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

&lt;a href=&quot;http://hotair.com/archives/2008/06/16/mccain-its-tough-in-some-respects-to-be-proud-of-america/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;?&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Update: Maverick knows red meat when he tastes it.</p></blockquote>
<p><a href="http://hotair.com/archives/2008/06/16/mccain-its-tough-in-some-respects-to-be-proud-of-america/" rel="nofollow">?</a></p>
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		<title>By: Jaibones</title>
		<link>http://hotair.com/archives/2008/06/17/obama-getting-a-bad-rap-on-gitmo-comments/comment-page-1/#comment-1189674</link>
		<dc:creator>Jaibones</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Jun 2008 18:06:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No need to read the story.  I saw the headline, and knew instantly it was an Allah commentary.  No one else spends so much energy defending Obama.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No need to read the story.  I saw the headline, and knew instantly it was an Allah commentary.  No one else spends so much energy defending Obama.</p>
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		<title>By: MayBee</title>
		<link>http://hotair.com/archives/2008/06/17/obama-getting-a-bad-rap-on-gitmo-comments/comment-page-1/#comment-1189673</link>
		<dc:creator>MayBee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Jun 2008 18:06:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>ps to the McCain campaign.  You are right on this, but people balk at the words &quot;pre 9/11 mindset&quot;.  That&#039;s the kind of talk that hurt Rudy.  Describe the mindset, but don&#039;t invoke 9/11 any more than you have to.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ps to the McCain campaign.  You are right on this, but people balk at the words &#8220;pre 9/11 mindset&#8221;.  That&#8217;s the kind of talk that hurt Rudy.  Describe the mindset, but don&#8217;t invoke 9/11 any more than you have to.</p>
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