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	<title>Comments on: Louisiana science coalition begs Jindal: Veto the creationism bill</title>
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		<title>By: Salamantis</title>
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		<dc:creator>Salamantis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Jun 2008 16:41:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Further evidence of evolution:

Fossil helps document shift from sea to land 
By Sid Perkins
http://www.sciencenews.org/view/generic/id/33623/title/Fossil_helps_document_shift_from_sea_to_land

New fossils of an ancient, four-limbed creature help fill in the blanks of the evolutionary transition between fish and the first land-adapted vertebrates.

Fossils of creatures that span the water-to-land transition of vertebrates are few and far between. One of those pioneers, Ventastega curonica, was first described in 1994 but previously has been known only from fragmentary remains unearthed from 365-million-year-old rocks at a site in western Latvia. Fossils found at the site during subsequent excavations now allow scientists to more fully reconstruct the creature, says Per Ahlberg, a paleontologist at Uppsala University in Sweden.

The new remains — including most of the creature’s skull, the braincase, half of the bones in its forelimb and a quarter of its pelvic girdle — suggest that Ventastega was an evolutionary intermediate between Tiktaalik, a four-limbed fish that lived about 382 million years ago (SN: 6/17/06, p. 379), and subsequent tetrapods such as Acanthostega, which were capable of walking on land.

The size and proportions of the new fossils hint that Ventastega probably measured between 1 and 1.3 meters in length. Most features of the creature’s skull match those of Tiktaalik, which lived millions of years earlier, but the overall shape of the skull and braincase “is characteristically ‘early tetrapod,’” Ahlberg says. Likewise, the creature’s lower jawbone was shaped like that of early tetrapods but was adorned with fangs like those found in its fishy predecessors, he notes. “Ventastega was a mosaic of features.”

Ventastega lived approximately during the same era as Acanthostega, but its features were more primitive, a sign that Ventastega may have been an evolutionary holdover, Ahlberg says. Nevertheless, the size and shape of Ventastega’s limb bones, particularly those of its forelimbs, suggest that the creature’s limbs ended in digits, not fins.

The fossil record suggests that the evolutionary transition between fish and early tetrapods was smooth. Over millions of years, these creatures’ eyes grew larger and their snouts became broader while the overall size of the skull decreased somewhat, Ahlberg and his colleagues report in the June 26 Nature.

The new fossils of Ventastega “are great,” says Neil Shubin, a paleontologist at the University of Chicago. Although the newly described remains include just a few bones, “they’re very informative,” he adds. The earliest tetrapods probably evolved between 5 million and 7 million years before Tiktaalik, he notes, and the new fossils will help researchers predict what those creatures would have looked like.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Further evidence of evolution:</p>
<p>Fossil helps document shift from sea to land<br />
By Sid Perkins<br />
<a href="http://www.sciencenews.org/view/generic/id/33623/title/Fossil_helps_document_shift_from_sea_to_land" rel="nofollow">http://www.sciencenews.org/view/generic/id/33623/title/Fossil_helps_document_shift_from_sea_to_land</a></p>
<p>New fossils of an ancient, four-limbed creature help fill in the blanks of the evolutionary transition between fish and the first land-adapted vertebrates.</p>
<p>Fossils of creatures that span the water-to-land transition of vertebrates are few and far between. One of those pioneers, Ventastega curonica, was first described in 1994 but previously has been known only from fragmentary remains unearthed from 365-million-year-old rocks at a site in western Latvia. Fossils found at the site during subsequent excavations now allow scientists to more fully reconstruct the creature, says Per Ahlberg, a paleontologist at Uppsala University in Sweden.</p>
<p>The new remains — including most of the creature’s skull, the braincase, half of the bones in its forelimb and a quarter of its pelvic girdle — suggest that Ventastega was an evolutionary intermediate between Tiktaalik, a four-limbed fish that lived about 382 million years ago (SN: 6/17/06, p. 379), and subsequent tetrapods such as Acanthostega, which were capable of walking on land.</p>
<p>The size and proportions of the new fossils hint that Ventastega probably measured between 1 and 1.3 meters in length. Most features of the creature’s skull match those of Tiktaalik, which lived millions of years earlier, but the overall shape of the skull and braincase “is characteristically ‘early tetrapod,’” Ahlberg says. Likewise, the creature’s lower jawbone was shaped like that of early tetrapods but was adorned with fangs like those found in its fishy predecessors, he notes. “Ventastega was a mosaic of features.”</p>
<p>Ventastega lived approximately during the same era as Acanthostega, but its features were more primitive, a sign that Ventastega may have been an evolutionary holdover, Ahlberg says. Nevertheless, the size and shape of Ventastega’s limb bones, particularly those of its forelimbs, suggest that the creature’s limbs ended in digits, not fins.</p>
<p>The fossil record suggests that the evolutionary transition between fish and early tetrapods was smooth. Over millions of years, these creatures’ eyes grew larger and their snouts became broader while the overall size of the skull decreased somewhat, Ahlberg and his colleagues report in the June 26 Nature.</p>
<p>The new fossils of Ventastega “are great,” says Neil Shubin, a paleontologist at the University of Chicago. Although the newly described remains include just a few bones, “they’re very informative,” he adds. The earliest tetrapods probably evolved between 5 million and 7 million years before Tiktaalik, he notes, and the new fossils will help researchers predict what those creatures would have looked like.</p>
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		<title>By: AprilOrit</title>
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		<dc:creator>AprilOrit</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Jun 2008 23:11:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>But you guys may not like the idea that Pastor Chuck can&#039;t stand George Bush and openly supported Ron Paul.

&lt;blockquote&gt;As pastor of the Crossroad Baptist Church in Pensacola, Florida, Baldwin once served in the 1980s as Florida chairman of the Moral Majority founded by the late Jerry Falwell. Before Falwell passed away in 2007, Baldwin distanced himself from his former mentor because of Falwell’s continuing support for President George W. Bush and other GOP headliners who had “strayed from positions vitally important to conservatives.” In the widely read Internet news column he has authored for many years, Baldwin endorsed the 2008 candidacy of Texas Congressman Ron Paul for the Republican nomination, and he specifically spoke out against the candidacies of Mitt Romney, Mike Huckabee, and John McCain. A consistent critic of the current occupant of the White House, Baldwin has regularly chided fellow Christian Right pastors and their flocks for “blind support for President Bush in particular and the Republican Party in general.” He has faulted them for refusing to “honestly face the real danger confronting these United States,” the loss of sovereignty.&lt;/blockquote&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>But you guys may not like the idea that Pastor Chuck can&#8217;t stand George Bush and openly supported Ron Paul.</p>
<blockquote><p>As pastor of the Crossroad Baptist Church in Pensacola, Florida, Baldwin once served in the 1980s as Florida chairman of the Moral Majority founded by the late Jerry Falwell. Before Falwell passed away in 2007, Baldwin distanced himself from his former mentor because of Falwell’s continuing support for President George W. Bush and other GOP headliners who had “strayed from positions vitally important to conservatives.” In the widely read Internet news column he has authored for many years, Baldwin endorsed the 2008 candidacy of Texas Congressman Ron Paul for the Republican nomination, and he specifically spoke out against the candidacies of Mitt Romney, Mike Huckabee, and John McCain. A consistent critic of the current occupant of the White House, Baldwin has regularly chided fellow Christian Right pastors and their flocks for “blind support for President Bush in particular and the Republican Party in general.” He has faulted them for refusing to “honestly face the real danger confronting these United States,” the loss of sovereignty.</p></blockquote>
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		<title>By: AprilOrit</title>
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		<dc:creator>AprilOrit</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Jun 2008 23:08:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>whoops - 

&lt;blockquote&gt;Say what you want - he’s still going to win. He will be the POTUS, that’s a fact. Bottomline - he is the Republican candidate, I am a Republican and I will support my Party and our candidate.
I’d really be surprised if he won. his base is not motivated, and the democrats are. I’m a conservative, not a republican, and they are no longer conservative, and I won’t vote for dem-lite. and the first thing he’ll do is push for amnesty…

right4life on June 20, 2008 at 8:39 AM&lt;/blockquote&gt;

There&#039;s always &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.constitutionparty.com/news.php?aid=751&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;The Constitution Party&lt;/a&gt;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>whoops &#8211; </p>
<blockquote><p>Say what you want &#8211; he’s still going to win. He will be the POTUS, that’s a fact. Bottomline &#8211; he is the Republican candidate, I am a Republican and I will support my Party and our candidate.<br />
I’d really be surprised if he won. his base is not motivated, and the democrats are. I’m a conservative, not a republican, and they are no longer conservative, and I won’t vote for dem-lite. and the first thing he’ll do is push for amnesty…</p>
<p>right4life on June 20, 2008 at 8:39 AM</p></blockquote>
<p>There&#8217;s always <a href="http://www.constitutionparty.com/news.php?aid=751" rel="nofollow">The Constitution Party</a>.</p>
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		<title>By: AprilOrit</title>
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		<dc:creator>AprilOrit</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Jun 2008 23:07:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>blockquote&gt;Say what you want - he’s still going to win. He will be the POTUS, that’s a fact. Bottomline - he is the Republican candidate, I am a Republican and I will support my Party and our candidate. 
I’d really be surprised if he won. his base is not motivated, and the democrats are. I’m a conservative, not a republican, and they are no longer conservative, and I won’t vote for dem-lite. and the first thing he’ll do is push for amnesty…

right4life on June 20, 2008 at 8:39 AM

There&#039;s always &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.constitutionparty.com/news.php?aid=751&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;The Constitution Party&lt;/a&gt;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>blockquote&gt;Say what you want &#8211; he’s still going to win. He will be the POTUS, that’s a fact. Bottomline &#8211; he is the Republican candidate, I am a Republican and I will support my Party and our candidate.<br />
I’d really be surprised if he won. his base is not motivated, and the democrats are. I’m a conservative, not a republican, and they are no longer conservative, and I won’t vote for dem-lite. and the first thing he’ll do is push for amnesty…</p>
<p>right4life on June 20, 2008 at 8:39 AM</p>
<p>There&#8217;s always <a href="http://www.constitutionparty.com/news.php?aid=751" rel="nofollow">The Constitution Party</a>.</p>
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		<title>By: davidk</title>
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		<dc:creator>davidk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Jun 2008 22:36:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;davidk…peace.

RushBaby on June 19, 2008 at 11:23 PM

&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Heh?  Thought the auditorium was empty.  :^]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>davidk…peace.</p>
<p>RushBaby on June 19, 2008 at 11:23 PM</p>
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<p>Heh?  Thought the auditorium was empty.  :^]</p>
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		<title>By: Jeremiah Films</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jeremiah Films</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Jun 2008 20:41:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;The Video - Louisiana Coalition for Science - is afraid of!...&lt;/strong&gt;

video is part of a series that discusses Intelligent Design ... please view it and decide if it is OK for your children to watch!...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>The Video &#8211; Louisiana Coalition for Science &#8211; is afraid of!&#8230;</strong></p>
<p>video is part of a series that discusses Intelligent Design &#8230; please view it and decide if it is OK for your children to watch!&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Salamantis</title>
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		<dc:creator>Salamantis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Jun 2008 17:08:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Umm, right4life, that is one of Saturn&#039;s mooons, not the earth&#039;s moon (it&#039;s MUCH colder there).  It&#039;s vastly colder there.  And the strength of gravity determines whether or not water vapor remains in the atmosphere to rain back down and form bodies of water or drifts out into space, or whether or not a planet can even retain an atmosphere.  Earth&#039;s moon, possessing only 1/6 of the earth&#039;s gravitational pull could retain neither, while the Earth itself has retained both.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Umm, right4life, that is one of Saturn&#8217;s mooons, not the earth&#8217;s moon (it&#8217;s MUCH colder there).  It&#8217;s vastly colder there.  And the strength of gravity determines whether or not water vapor remains in the atmosphere to rain back down and form bodies of water or drifts out into space, or whether or not a planet can even retain an atmosphere.  Earth&#8217;s moon, possessing only 1/6 of the earth&#8217;s gravitational pull could retain neither, while the Earth itself has retained both.</p>
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		<title>By: Salamantis</title>
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		<dc:creator>Salamantis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Jun 2008 16:37:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I notice that not only are practically all the names on david K&#039;s list dead, but that a lot of them had already died before darwin was born, much less before he proposed his theory.

Further elaboration of the laboratory evidence for evolution:

http://scienceblogs.com/loom/2008/06/02/a_new_step_in_evolution.php</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I notice that not only are practically all the names on david K&#8217;s list dead, but that a lot of them had already died before darwin was born, much less before he proposed his theory.</p>
<p>Further elaboration of the laboratory evidence for evolution:</p>
<p><a href="http://scienceblogs.com/loom/2008/06/02/a_new_step_in_evolution.php" rel="nofollow">http://scienceblogs.com/loom/2008/06/02/a_new_step_in_evolution.php</a></p>
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		<title>By: right4life</title>
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		<dc:creator>right4life</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Jun 2008 12:42:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>for all you billions and billions of years types...


In all the models studied, the moon could not sustain an ocean for more than around 30 million years. 
....
Plumes of water vapor were detected erupting out of the surface, and infrared measurements showed 5.8 gigawatts of heat emanating from several narrow ridges called &quot;tiger stripes.&quot;

&quot;It&#039;s a no-brainer that tidal heating is happening on Enceladus,&quot; said William McKinnon of Washington University in Saint Louis. &quot;I can conceive of no other explanation for the south polar thermal anomaly.&quot; 


&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.space.com/scienceastronomy/080619-am-enceladus-ocean.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;link&lt;/a&gt;


but just like any inconvenient fact in evolution, I&#039;m sure they&#039;ll come up with some &#039;just-so&#039; story to maintain the billions of years needed for hairygod darwin and his evolutionary fable to work in..</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>for all you billions and billions of years types&#8230;</p>
<p>In all the models studied, the moon could not sustain an ocean for more than around 30 million years.<br />
&#8230;.<br />
Plumes of water vapor were detected erupting out of the surface, and infrared measurements showed 5.8 gigawatts of heat emanating from several narrow ridges called &#8220;tiger stripes.&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8220;It&#8217;s a no-brainer that tidal heating is happening on Enceladus,&#8221; said William McKinnon of Washington University in Saint Louis. &#8220;I can conceive of no other explanation for the south polar thermal anomaly.&#8221; </p>
<p><a href="http://www.space.com/scienceastronomy/080619-am-enceladus-ocean.html" rel="nofollow">link</a></p>
<p>but just like any inconvenient fact in evolution, I&#8217;m sure they&#8217;ll come up with some &#8216;just-so&#8217; story to maintain the billions of years needed for hairygod darwin and his evolutionary fable to work in..</p>
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		<title>By: right4life</title>
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		<dc:creator>right4life</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Jun 2008 12:39:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Say what you want - he’s still going to win. He will be the POTUS, that’s a fact. Bottomline - he is the Republican candidate, I am a Republican and I will support my Party and our candidate.
&lt;/blockquote&gt;

I&#039;d really be surprised if he won.  his base is not motivated, and the democrats are.  I&#039;m a conservative, not a republican, and they are no longer conservative, and I won&#039;t vote for dem-lite.   and the first thing he&#039;ll do is push for amnesty...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Say what you want &#8211; he’s still going to win. He will be the POTUS, that’s a fact. Bottomline &#8211; he is the Republican candidate, I am a Republican and I will support my Party and our candidate.
</p></blockquote>
<p>I&#8217;d really be surprised if he won.  his base is not motivated, and the democrats are.  I&#8217;m a conservative, not a republican, and they are no longer conservative, and I won&#8217;t vote for dem-lite.   and the first thing he&#8217;ll do is push for amnesty&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: AprilOrit</title>
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		<dc:creator>AprilOrit</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Jun 2008 03:47:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;But that’s why John McCain is our perfect nominee, he isn’t all wingnutted out with the relgious craziness, he understands that this country was settled by the faithful, not the nutjobs who clock you over the head with the cross daily.
uh yeah all you ‘real’ ‘conservatives’ voting for the backstabbing captain queeg. 

uh yeah glad he’s your nominee…hope theres lots of you ‘conservatives’ to vote for him….cause I sure won’t….and no real conservative would.

right4life on June 19, 2008 at 9:10 PM&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Say what you want - he&#039;s still going to win.  He will be the POTUS, that&#039;s a fact.  Bottomline - he is the Republican candidate, I am a Republican and I will support my Party and our candidate.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>But that’s why John McCain is our perfect nominee, he isn’t all wingnutted out with the relgious craziness, he understands that this country was settled by the faithful, not the nutjobs who clock you over the head with the cross daily.<br />
uh yeah all you ‘real’ ‘conservatives’ voting for the backstabbing captain queeg. </p>
<p>uh yeah glad he’s your nominee…hope theres lots of you ‘conservatives’ to vote for him….cause I sure won’t….and no real conservative would.</p>
<p>right4life on June 19, 2008 at 9:10 PM</p></blockquote>
<p>Say what you want &#8211; he&#8217;s still going to win.  He will be the POTUS, that&#8217;s a fact.  Bottomline &#8211; he is the Republican candidate, I am a Republican and I will support my Party and our candidate.</p>
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		<title>By: RushBaby</title>
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		<dc:creator>RushBaby</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Jun 2008 03:23:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>davidk...peace.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>davidk&#8230;peace.</p>
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		<title>By: davidk</title>
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		<dc:creator>davidk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Jun 2008 01:56:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;[I]t seems to me that the case for an Aristotelian God who has the charateristics of power and also intelligence, is now much stronger than it ever was before.

Anthony Flew&lt;/blockquote&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>[I]t seems to me that the case for an Aristotelian God who has the charateristics of power and also intelligence, is now much stronger than it ever was before.</p>
<p>Anthony Flew</p></blockquote>
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		<title>By: davidk</title>
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		<dc:creator>davidk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Jun 2008 01:53:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Q.  What are some of the larger questions which are still unanswered by evolutionary theory.

A.  The origen of life.  There is no consensus ar all here--lots of theories, little science.  That&#039;s one of the reasons we didn&#039;t cover it in the series.  The evidence wasn&#039;t very clear.

Richard Hutton  Producer of the PBS series &quot;Evolution&quot;&lt;/blockquote&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Q.  What are some of the larger questions which are still unanswered by evolutionary theory.</p>
<p>A.  The origen of life.  There is no consensus ar all here&#8211;lots of theories, little science.  That&#8217;s one of the reasons we didn&#8217;t cover it in the series.  The evidence wasn&#8217;t very clear.</p>
<p>Richard Hutton  Producer of the PBS series &#8220;Evolution&#8221;</p></blockquote>
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		<title>By: davidk</title>
		<link>http://hotair.com/archives/2008/06/17/louisiana-science-coalition-begs-jindal-veto-the-creationism-bill/comment-page-8/#comment-1195485</link>
		<dc:creator>davidk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Jun 2008 01:47:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Evolution is so clearly a fact that you need to be committed to something like a belief in the supernatural if you are at all indisagreement with evolution.  It &lt;em&gt;is&lt;/em&gt; a fact and we don&#039;t need to prove it anymore.

Ernst Mayr&lt;/blockquote&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Evolution is so clearly a fact that you need to be committed to something like a belief in the supernatural if you are at all indisagreement with evolution.  It <em>is</em> a fact and we don&#8217;t need to prove it anymore.</p>
<p>Ernst Mayr</p></blockquote>
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		<title>By: davidk</title>
		<link>http://hotair.com/archives/2008/06/17/louisiana-science-coalition-begs-jindal-veto-the-creationism-bill/comment-page-8/#comment-1195467</link>
		<dc:creator>davidk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Jun 2008 01:38:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;It&#039;s not the parts of the Bible I don&#039;t understand that bother me, it&#039;s the parts I do understand.

Mark Twain&lt;/blockquote&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>It&#8217;s not the parts of the Bible I don&#8217;t understand that bother me, it&#8217;s the parts I do understand.</p>
<p>Mark Twain</p></blockquote>
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		<title>By: davidk</title>
		<link>http://hotair.com/archives/2008/06/17/louisiana-science-coalition-begs-jindal-veto-the-creationism-bill/comment-page-8/#comment-1195457</link>
		<dc:creator>davidk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Jun 2008 01:35:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Salmonella,

The notion that monotheism evolved from polytheism was discarded decades ago.  Catch up, dude.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Salmonella,</p>
<p>The notion that monotheism evolved from polytheism was discarded decades ago.  Catch up, dude.</p>
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		<title>By: davidk</title>
		<link>http://hotair.com/archives/2008/06/17/louisiana-science-coalition-begs-jindal-veto-the-creationism-bill/comment-page-8/#comment-1195449</link>
		<dc:creator>davidk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Jun 2008 01:32:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Darwinists, your theory is falling apart.

Evolution is a load of cwap.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Darwinists, your theory is falling apart.</p>
<p>Evolution is a load of cwap.</p>
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		<title>By: davidk</title>
		<link>http://hotair.com/archives/2008/06/17/louisiana-science-coalition-begs-jindal-veto-the-creationism-bill/comment-page-8/#comment-1195434</link>
		<dc:creator>davidk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Jun 2008 01:28:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;An increasing number of scientists, most particularly a growing number of evolutionists, ... argue that Darwinian evolutionary theory is no genuine scietific theory at all ... .  Many of the critics have the highest intellectual credentials.

Micheal Ruse&lt;/blockquote&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>An increasing number of scientists, most particularly a growing number of evolutionists, &#8230; argue that Darwinian evolutionary theory is no genuine scietific theory at all &#8230; .  Many of the critics have the highest intellectual credentials.</p>
<p>Micheal Ruse</p></blockquote>
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		<title>By: davidk</title>
		<link>http://hotair.com/archives/2008/06/17/louisiana-science-coalition-begs-jindal-veto-the-creationism-bill/comment-page-8/#comment-1195424</link>
		<dc:creator>davidk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Jun 2008 01:24:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;It is absolutely safe to say that, if you meet somebody who claims not to believe in evolution, that person is ignorant, stupid or insane (or wicked, but I&#039;d rather not go there.

Richard Dawkins&lt;/blockquote&gt;

A partial list of people who belive in creation:

Agassiz
Boyle
Brewster
Dalton
davidk
Faraday
Galileo
Herschel
Kelvin
Kepler
Linnaeus
Maunder
Maxwell
Mendel
Newton
Pascal
Pasteur
Ramsay
Ray
Steno
Woodward

only one of which is insane.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>It is absolutely safe to say that, if you meet somebody who claims not to believe in evolution, that person is ignorant, stupid or insane (or wicked, but I&#8217;d rather not go there.</p>
<p>Richard Dawkins</p></blockquote>
<p>A partial list of people who belive in creation:</p>
<p>Agassiz<br />
Boyle<br />
Brewster<br />
Dalton<br />
davidk<br />
Faraday<br />
Galileo<br />
Herschel<br />
Kelvin<br />
Kepler<br />
Linnaeus<br />
Maunder<br />
Maxwell<br />
Mendel<br />
Newton<br />
Pascal<br />
Pasteur<br />
Ramsay<br />
Ray<br />
Steno<br />
Woodward</p>
<p>only one of which is insane.</p>
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		<title>By: Sir Andrew</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sir Andrew</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Jun 2008 01:21:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We shouldn&#039;t have to be crafting legislation around the Supreme Court.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We shouldn&#8217;t have to be crafting legislation around the Supreme Court.</p>
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		<title>By: davidk</title>
		<link>http://hotair.com/archives/2008/06/17/louisiana-science-coalition-begs-jindal-veto-the-creationism-bill/comment-page-8/#comment-1195402</link>
		<dc:creator>davidk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Jun 2008 01:14:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Who are you going to believe, me or your own two eyes.

Groucho Marx&lt;/blockquote&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Who are you going to believe, me or your own two eyes.</p>
<p>Groucho Marx</p></blockquote>
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		<title>By: davidk</title>
		<link>http://hotair.com/archives/2008/06/17/louisiana-science-coalition-begs-jindal-veto-the-creationism-bill/comment-page-8/#comment-1195397</link>
		<dc:creator>davidk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Jun 2008 01:12:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;We are intelligent beings, and intelligent beings could not have been formed by a blind, brute insensible thing.

Voltaire&lt;/blockquote&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>We are intelligent beings, and intelligent beings could not have been formed by a blind, brute insensible thing.</p>
<p>Voltaire</p></blockquote>
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		<title>By: right4life</title>
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		<dc:creator>right4life</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Jun 2008 01:10:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;But that’s why John McCain is our perfect nominee, he isn’t all wingnutted out with the relgious craziness, he understands that this country was settled by the faithful, not the nutjobs who clock you over the head with the cross daily.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

uh yeah all you &#039;real&#039; &#039;conservatives&#039; voting for the backstabbing captain queeg.  

uh yeah glad he&#039;s &lt;em&gt;your &lt;/em&gt;nominee...hope theres lots of you &#039;conservatives&#039; to vote for him....cause I sure won&#039;t....and no real conservative would.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>But that’s why John McCain is our perfect nominee, he isn’t all wingnutted out with the relgious craziness, he understands that this country was settled by the faithful, not the nutjobs who clock you over the head with the cross daily.</p></blockquote>
<p>uh yeah all you &#8216;real&#8217; &#8216;conservatives&#8217; voting for the backstabbing captain queeg.  </p>
<p>uh yeah glad he&#8217;s <em>your </em>nominee&#8230;hope theres lots of you &#8216;conservatives&#8217; to vote for him&#8230;.cause I sure won&#8217;t&#8230;.and no real conservative would.</p>
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		<title>By: AprilOrit</title>
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		<dc:creator>AprilOrit</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Jun 2008 00:21:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;AprilOrit on June 19, 2008 at 6:47 PM
Ditto and if you don’t agree with them then you are not “a real conservative”. Those who know don’t speak and those who speak don’t know.

ronsfi on June 19, 2008 at 7:00 PM&lt;/blockquote&gt;

But that&#039;s why John McCain is our perfect nominee, he isn&#039;t all wingnutted out with the relgious craziness, he understands that this country was settled by the faithful, not the nutjobs who clock you over the head with the cross daily.

Dick Morris is right about this, we are lucky John McCain is our nominee.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>AprilOrit on June 19, 2008 at 6:47 PM<br />
Ditto and if you don’t agree with them then you are not “a real conservative”. Those who know don’t speak and those who speak don’t know.</p>
<p>ronsfi on June 19, 2008 at 7:00 PM</p></blockquote>
<p>But that&#8217;s why John McCain is our perfect nominee, he isn&#8217;t all wingnutted out with the relgious craziness, he understands that this country was settled by the faithful, not the nutjobs who clock you over the head with the cross daily.</p>
<p>Dick Morris is right about this, we are lucky John McCain is our nominee.</p>
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