No offense, Rod, but…”William F. Jasper” would appear to be a loon.

John Birch Society?

Yikes!

alphie on June 16, 2008 at 6:12 PM

Yes. I Googled him after I posted and thought, “Oh man, what have I gotten myself into now?” I actually thought they were defunct in that you hardly hear about them anymore.

But aside from that, he offers some compelling evidence to support the threat of Iranian sponsored global terrorism. So the argument is not his affiliation with the Birch society but with what he offers in this specific article. Pointing out that the messenger is a nut case doesn’t always devalue the message. It certainly does not help your position.

In addition, the post just prior to mine by GT does the same: provide compelling evidence of the Iranian threat.

If you truly believe that Iran is not a threat then tell us why. Provide some evidence. Point us in the direction of the documents, not opinion, that proves otherwise.

Ahmadinejad says he’s a treat. If you think he’s joking, if you expect one day soon he’ll hold a press conference where he’ll laugh and say, “Boy, did I have you all going or what? Did you really believe I wanted Israel wiped off the map? You crazy loons! I love Jews! And where would I get a Big Mac if I blew up the Great Satan? Have you tasted an Iranian goatburger? Yuck!” – then point us to his joke writers.

So it’s hard to fathom why Democrats in Congress have joined Ayatollah Khamenei in denouncing the U.S.-Iraqi agreements even before they are written.

No it’s not. It’s actually quite simple to explain: It might credit the efforts of the Bush administration in Iraq.

Donkeys are just like the Klingon ship captain in “Star Trek III: The Search for Spock.” When he and Kirk are fighting it out on the Genesis Planet, which is about to explode, Kirk says something like, “We’ve got to get out of here!”

To which the Klingon replies forcefully, “No!”

“Why not?” Kirk asks.

“Because you wish it!”

Donkey thinking is really easy to follow: “If George Bush is for it, then I’m against it; if George Bush said it, it must be a lie; if something might make it look like George Bush can do any right whatsoever, then I’m on the other side.”

John Birch Society?

Yikes!

Nice try.

alphie on June 16, 2008 at 2:53 PM

Nice try?

Did you read the article? If not, read it. If you did, or when you do, then refute the article. Point by point. Show me why you’re more informed than the U.S. Senate Subcommittee on Security and Terrorism; provide evidence that proves that the Iranian “Top-Secret” documents contained in the report were forged; show us why a 20-year-old report on the threat Iran posed is no longer relevant today, that Iran is a “friendly” nation with nothing but good intentions rather than being much more dangerous today as the article shows.

In any case, should you decide to respond, I’ve provided backup for my opinion. Do the same. Respond to the article.

Here, again, is a link to the article: Iran’s global terror network.

The Islamic Republic has financed and armed the Afghan Sunni Hizb Islami (Islamic Party) since the 1990s. It’s also financed the Front for Islamic Salvation (FIS), a Sunni political-terrorist outfit in Algeria between 1992 and 2005.

In 1993, a senior Iranian delegation, led by the then Islamic Parliament Speaker Ayatollah Mehdi Karrubi, attended the Arab-Muslim Popular Congress organized by Hassan al-Turabi, nicknamed ‘The Pope of Islamist Terror,’ in Khartoum. At the end of this anti-American jamboree a nine-man ‘Coordinating Committee’ was announced. Karrubi was a member, along with such Sunni eminences as Osama Bin Laden, Ayman al-Zawahiri, Mr. Turabi and the Algerian Abdallah Jaballah. The fact that Karrubi was a Shiite mullah did not prevent him from sitting alongside Sunni sheikhs.

In 1996, a suicide attack claimed the lives of 19 American servicemen in Al Khobar, eastern Saudi Arabia. The operation was carried out by the Hezbollah in Hejaz, an Iranian-financed outfit, with the help of the Sunni militant group ‘Sword of the Peninsula.’

In 2000, Sunni groups linked to al Qaeda killed 17 U.S. servicemen in a suicide attack on USS Cole off the coast of Yemen. This time, a Shiite militant group led by Sheikh al-Houti, Tehran’s man in Yemen, played second fiddle in the operation.

In Central Asia’s Tajikistan and Uzbekistan, Tehran has for years supported two Sunni movements, the Rastakhiz Islami (Islamic Awakening) and Hizb Tahrir Islami (Islamic Liberation Party). In Azerbaijan, a former Soviet republic, Tehran supports the Sunni Taleshi groups against the Azeri Shiite majority. The reason? The Taleshi Sunnis are pro-Russian and anti-American, while the Shiite Azeris are pro-American and anti-Russian.

There are no Palestinian Shiites, yet Tehran has become the principal source of funding for radical Palestinian Sunni groups, notably Hamas, Islamic Jihad and half a dozen leftist-atheist minigroups. Hamas leader Ismail Haniyeh refuses to pray alongside his Iranian hosts during his visits to Tehran. But when it comes to joining Khomeinist crowds in shouting ‘Death to America’ he is in the forefront.

With Arab oil kingdoms no longer as generous as before, Iran has emerged as the chief source of funding for Hamas. The new Iranian budget, coming into effect on March 21, allocates over $2 billion to the promotion of ‘revolutionary causes.’ Much of the money will go to Hamas and the Lebanese branch of Hezbollah.

In Pakistan, the Iran-financed Shiite Tehrik Jaafari joined a coalition of Sunni parties to govern the Northwest Frontier Province, until they all suffered a crushing defeat at last month’s parliamentary elections.

The fact that the Sunnis and Shiites in other provinces of Pakistan continued to kill each other did not prevent them from developing a joint, anti-U.S. strategy that included the revival of the Afghan Taliban and protection for the remnants of al Qaeda. Almost all self-styled ‘holy warriors’ who go to Iraq on a mission of murder and mayhem are Sunnis. And, yet most pass through Syria, a country that, as already noted, is dominated by a sect with a militant anti-Sunni religious doctrine.

Next month, Tehran will host what is billed as ‘The Islamic Convergence Conference,’ bringing together hundreds of Shiite and Sunni militants from all over the world. The man in charge, Ayatollah Ali-Muhammad Taskhiri, has described the goal of the gathering to be delivering ‘a punch in the face of the American Great Satan.’

Still, Mr. Obama might ask: what about al Qaeda and Iran?

The 9/11 Commission report states that Tehran was in contact with al Qaeda at various levels before the 2001 attacks. Tehran has admitted the presence of al Qaeda figures in Iran on a number of occasions, and has arranged for the repatriation of at least 13 Saudi members in the past five years. The Bin Laden family tells us that at least one of Osama’s sons, Sa’ad, has lived in Iran since 2002.

Reports from Iran claim that scores of Taliban leaders and several al Qaeda figures spend part of the year in a compound-style housing estate near the village of Dost Muhammad on the Iranian frontier with Afghanistan. One way to verify these claims is to allow the world media access to the area. But Tehran has declared large segments of eastern Iran a ‘no-go’ area, even for its own state-owned media.

In short, the claim that al Qaeda and the Khomeinists, not to mention other terrorist groups operating in the name of Islam, would not work together simply because they have theological differences is both naive and dangerous.

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America is worried about Sunni terrorist, Rod.

Iran is a Shiite country.

Nice try.

Our “ally” Saudi Arabia funds the bad guys America is worried about.

Wonder why we don’t try to “contain” them?

alphie on June 16, 2008 at 2:53 PM

Wrong. America is worried about terrorists. Period.

In case you forgot, Shiite terrorist have been responsible for bombing American embassies back in 1983. Just so you don’t get confused, that was 20 years before Bush 43 decided to remove Saddam. New York Times

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Hi Mom!

Do the Dem’s STAND for anything?

In direct interference in US foreign policy and the execution of the war in Iraq, Barack Obama today told the Iraqi foreign minister, according to the New York Times’ Caucus blog report, While the Bush administration would like to see……

Or they equate the U.S. with terrorist nations, or Bush with Hitler, or our soldiers with SS prison guards, or..or..or..

The wily al-Sadr is just toying with us. Once he actually feels safe enough to re-enter Iraq, and then manages to exert control over his own Shiite forces, he’ll take command of all the Anbar Sunnis and give us a……

When their conclusions are challenged, they escalate. That’s why you get the insults. Or they try to make you feel guilty about disrespecting their opinions.

trubble on June 16, 2008 at 1:18 PM
Can we squeeze the Iranian regime from within?

Hundreds of thousands of Iranians visit the Iraqi cities of Karbala and Najaf each year. Sending them back with images of a free, truly democratic, and prosperous Islamic state would go a long way toward squeezing them from within.

America is worried about Sunni terrorist, Rod.

Iran is a Shiite country.

Nice try.

Our “ally” Saudi Arabia funds the bad guys America is worried about.

Wonder why we don’t try to “contain” them?

And we are especially worried about Sunnis funded, trained, and dispatched by Iranian planners.

Was the bombing of Khobar Towers less than 300 years ago?

The fact that they haven’t shows them to be embarrassingly unprepared for either containment or war.

As I see it, “unprepared” is the most generous view. Another view is that Dems are playing to nutroots, and nutroots want Bush (and America) to be cut down a few notches through defeat in the Middle East.

Drama Queen.
MB4 on June 16, 2008 at 1:48 PM

Sorry mate. My over the top metaphors and analogies are always in good fun. Never meant seriously. In any event, I prefer Dairy Queen to Drama Queen any day.

Iran is a Shiite country.

Nice try.

Our “ally” Saudi Arabia funds the bad guys America is worried about.

Wonder why we don’t try to “contain” them?

excellent post……

It’s been about 300 years since Iran invaded another country.

alphie on June 16, 2008 at 1:37 PM

Based on recent data, Buford, America (or Israel) is far more likely to invade another country than Iran is. We need to figure out how to “contain” them.

alphie on June 16, 2008 at 1:48 PM

Yes we do.

Also “based on recent data”, Alphie, is Iran’s reputation for being the largest sponsor of global terrorism.

Not much sense in mobilizing and “invading” a country when you believe you can achieve the same results through the funding and training of terrorists.

Pretty harsh words for the Democrats from WaPo. Apparently they seem to be in agreement with Muqtada al Sadr on a number of issues, including conspiratorial notions that a long-term presence in Iraq would be some sort of “occupation”. I’d……

alphie on June 16, 2008 at 1:37 PM

Was going to point out that the present government of Iran only started in 79…

But that would be feeding the troll…