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		<title>By: Splunge</title>
		<link>http://hotair.com/archives/2008/06/16/tsvangirais-optimism/comment-page-1/#comment-1186737</link>
		<dc:creator>Splunge</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Jun 2008 14:47:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>He may be a little naive, or he may have things more finely gauged than do people, like me, who have never set foot in Zimbabwe. But regardless, you can&#039;t fault his courage. My opinion is that we owe more to people like Tsvangirai and Kasparov than we realize. We certainly owe them more than a tut-tut about the unwisdom of their quixotic quests. What people like Tsvangirai and Kasparov do is change the narrative. Who dares now to refer to Mugabe, or Putin, as &quot;democratically elected?&quot;  And to whom do we owe that change?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>He may be a little naive, or he may have things more finely gauged than do people, like me, who have never set foot in Zimbabwe. But regardless, you can&#8217;t fault his courage. My opinion is that we owe more to people like Tsvangirai and Kasparov than we realize. We certainly owe them more than a tut-tut about the unwisdom of their quixotic quests. What people like Tsvangirai and Kasparov do is change the narrative. Who dares now to refer to Mugabe, or Putin, as &#8220;democratically elected?&#8221;  And to whom do we owe that change?</p>
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		<title>By: jmarcure</title>
		<link>http://hotair.com/archives/2008/06/16/tsvangirais-optimism/comment-page-1/#comment-1186734</link>
		<dc:creator>jmarcure</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Jun 2008 14:45:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;To admit that Mugabe is a murderous dictator would be to admit that the events that led to his rise in power were a mistake.

MarkTheGreat on June 16, 2008 at 10:06 AM&lt;/blockquote&gt;

I was always under the impression that he was one of the greats in the same league as Che, Castro, Arafat and Chaves. I never got the impression that he was a thug that was ruining his country for personal gain and glory. Don’t forget he was legally elected and continues to get reelected time after time. He must be doing something right.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>To admit that Mugabe is a murderous dictator would be to admit that the events that led to his rise in power were a mistake.</p>
<p>MarkTheGreat on June 16, 2008 at 10:06 AM</p></blockquote>
<p>I was always under the impression that he was one of the greats in the same league as Che, Castro, Arafat and Chaves. I never got the impression that he was a thug that was ruining his country for personal gain and glory. Don’t forget he was legally elected and continues to get reelected time after time. He must be doing something right.</p>
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		<title>By: jmarcure</title>
		<link>http://hotair.com/archives/2008/06/16/tsvangirais-optimism/comment-page-1/#comment-1186716</link>
		<dc:creator>jmarcure</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Jun 2008 14:35:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Someone please remind me…

Just exactly what is the role of the UN in African affairs or anywhere else in the world for that matter. I’m having a hard time figuring this out.

Someone please tell me why we give them prime New York property, money, security, etc etc…..

Bogeyfre on June 16, 2008 at 8:10 AM&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Its role is to support and reinforce dislike of the USA while trying to redistribute the wealth of the USA to others. As a side activity they also try to bring the USA completely under their control by making us feel guilty about, well pretty much everything we do, have or say.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Someone please remind me…</p>
<p>Just exactly what is the role of the UN in African affairs or anywhere else in the world for that matter. I’m having a hard time figuring this out.</p>
<p>Someone please tell me why we give them prime New York property, money, security, etc etc…..</p>
<p>Bogeyfre on June 16, 2008 at 8:10 AM</p></blockquote>
<p>Its role is to support and reinforce dislike of the USA while trying to redistribute the wealth of the USA to others. As a side activity they also try to bring the USA completely under their control by making us feel guilty about, well pretty much everything we do, have or say.</p>
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		<title>By: MarkTheGreat</title>
		<link>http://hotair.com/archives/2008/06/16/tsvangirais-optimism/comment-page-1/#comment-1186690</link>
		<dc:creator>MarkTheGreat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Jun 2008 14:06:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To admit that Mugabe is a murderous dictator would be to admit that the events that led to his rise in power were a mistake.

The left is incapable of admitting error.  They will continue to pretend that nothing is wrong until the last innocent is dead.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To admit that Mugabe is a murderous dictator would be to admit that the events that led to his rise in power were a mistake.</p>
<p>The left is incapable of admitting error.  They will continue to pretend that nothing is wrong until the last innocent is dead.</p>
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		<title>By: malan89</title>
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		<dc:creator>malan89</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Jun 2008 13:51:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Will he concede? Will he accept a smooth transition?&lt;/blockquote&gt;
Hopefully he will.  But most likely he won&#039;t.  And we all know the UN won&#039;t intervene.  What will happen to Zimbabwe?
&lt;blockquote&gt;The ugly truth is that Mugabe will almost certainly rig the election results,&lt;/blockquote&gt;
He rigged the first round and still lost.  Why didn&#039;t he just make himself the winner?  This is going to be interesting.  June 27.  The world will be watching...hopefully.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Will he concede? Will he accept a smooth transition?</p></blockquote>
<p>Hopefully he will.  But most likely he won&#8217;t.  And we all know the UN won&#8217;t intervene.  What will happen to Zimbabwe?</p>
<blockquote><p>The ugly truth is that Mugabe will almost certainly rig the election results,</p></blockquote>
<p>He rigged the first round and still lost.  Why didn&#8217;t he just make himself the winner?  This is going to be interesting.  June 27.  The world will be watching&#8230;hopefully.</p>
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		<title>By: jgapinoy</title>
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		<dc:creator>jgapinoy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Jun 2008 13:25:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Re. toothless UN: &lt;strong&gt;Bring on McCain&#039;s &lt;em&gt;League of Democracies!&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Re. toothless UN: <strong>Bring on McCain&#8217;s <em>League of Democracies!</em></strong></p>
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		<title>By: jgapinoy</title>
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		<dc:creator>jgapinoy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Jun 2008 13:19:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The &quot;soft&quot; racism of low expectations--
Because Mug-abe is Black, the world says, &quot;Nothing unusual or outrageous there.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The &#8220;soft&#8221; racism of low expectations&#8211;<br />
Because Mug-abe is Black, the world says, &#8220;Nothing unusual or outrageous there.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: peacenprosperity</title>
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		<dc:creator>peacenprosperity</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Jun 2008 13:02:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>How could this guy &lt;strike&gt;be so naive&lt;/strike&gt;still be alive?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How could this guy <strike>be so naive</strike>still be alive?</p>
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		<title>By: shaken</title>
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		<dc:creator>shaken</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Jun 2008 12:53:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Zimbabwe grows food for China but lacks a deepwater port. South Africa has the port. Hungry mouths in China need the Zimbabwe garden. Pieces fit together now?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Zimbabwe grows food for China but lacks a deepwater port. South Africa has the port. Hungry mouths in China need the Zimbabwe garden. Pieces fit together now?</p>
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		<title>By: canopfor</title>
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		<dc:creator>canopfor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Jun 2008 12:29:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>!Expect whats left of this guy..
pilamaye on June 16,2008 at 8:19AM

pilamaye:Adding to your point,as the UN operates,
         5 years from now,we will find what kind
         of UN scam they were running,if any!

         However,the UN has an excellent scam record
         as in Koff&#039;s son,with the infamous &quot;oil for
         food scam&quot; with Iraq!

         So,Is the UN a social club! jus sayin ! :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>!Expect whats left of this guy..<br />
pilamaye on June 16,2008 at 8:19AM</p>
<p>pilamaye:Adding to your point,as the UN operates,<br />
         5 years from now,we will find what kind<br />
         of UN scam they were running,if any!</p>
<p>         However,the UN has an excellent scam record<br />
         as in Koff&#8217;s son,with the infamous &#8220;oil for<br />
         food scam&#8221; with Iraq!</p>
<p>         So,Is the UN a social club! jus sayin ! :)</p>
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		<title>By: MechFighter</title>
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		<dc:creator>MechFighter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Jun 2008 12:26:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: bikermailman</title>
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		<dc:creator>bikermailman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Jun 2008 12:23:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;How could this guy be so naive?
Carl in Jerusalem on June 16, 2008 at 7:51 AM&lt;/blockquote&gt;

I&#039;m guessing it&#039;s that people (like the UN) have taught them that the UN is all powerful, all wise.  They haven&#039;t had exposure to the Western world to know otherwise.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>How could this guy be so naive?<br />
Carl in Jerusalem on June 16, 2008 at 7:51 AM</p></blockquote>
<p>I&#8217;m guessing it&#8217;s that people (like the UN) have taught them that the UN is all powerful, all wise.  They haven&#8217;t had exposure to the Western world to know otherwise.</p>
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		<title>By: pilamaye</title>
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		<dc:creator>pilamaye</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Jun 2008 12:19:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Expect what’s left of this guy to be found floating in some crocodile infested river any day now. Also expect the U.N. to do diddly squat about it if that does happen to him.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Expect what’s left of this guy to be found floating in some crocodile infested river any day now. Also expect the U.N. to do diddly squat about it if that does happen to him.</p>
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		<title>By: canopfor</title>
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		<dc:creator>canopfor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Jun 2008 12:19:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I might be naive,but I thought that the UN was
created as to not allow a tin horn dictator to
run his or her country into the ground!

And again I thought that the UN was formed to
use its teeth if necessary to deal with these
Dictators like Saddam,and I know, what teeth!

Also interesting,is that the Liberal Party normaly
says it cares about third world countries,and not a
peep from the Liberal leadership on this one,and
during a election cycle to boot!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I might be naive,but I thought that the UN was<br />
created as to not allow a tin horn dictator to<br />
run his or her country into the ground!</p>
<p>And again I thought that the UN was formed to<br />
use its teeth if necessary to deal with these<br />
Dictators like Saddam,and I know, what teeth!</p>
<p>Also interesting,is that the Liberal Party normaly<br />
says it cares about third world countries,and not a<br />
peep from the Liberal leadership on this one,and<br />
during a election cycle to boot!!</p>
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		<title>By: Bogeyfre</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bogeyfre</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Jun 2008 12:10:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Someone please remind me...

Just exactly what is the role of the UN in African affairs or anywhere else in the world for that matter.  I&#039;m having a hard time figuring this out.

Someone please tell me why we give them prime New York property, money, security, etc etc.....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Someone please remind me&#8230;</p>
<p>Just exactly what is the role of the UN in African affairs or anywhere else in the world for that matter.  I&#8217;m having a hard time figuring this out.</p>
<p>Someone please tell me why we give them prime New York property, money, security, etc etc&#8230;..</p>
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		<title>By: eon</title>
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		<dc:creator>eon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Jun 2008 11:57:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Zimbabwe has been the victim of muddle-headedness on the part of international &quot;social reformers&quot; for the last thirty years, going back to Jimmy Carter. To expect the UN, at this late date, to stand up to a thug like Mugabe is expecting the Sun to rise in the west tomorrow morning.

 And even if there is some sort of international move to censure Mugabe, it will not last. For the simple reason that too many of those very same &quot;reformers&quot; secretly (or not so secretly) &lt;em&gt;admire&lt;/em&gt; Mugabe. To paraphrase the late, great Graham Chapman re the Piranha Brothers (Doug and Dinsdale), Mugabe does what they can only&lt;em&gt; dream&lt;/em&gt; of doing. Their response to him is precisely what it was to Saddam Hussein;
&lt;blockquote&gt;
 Who cares if he&#039;s slaughtering his own people en masse and at random? He&#039;s just acting as a True Socialist Great Leader &lt;em&gt;should&lt;/em&gt;!&lt;/blockquote&gt;

 As for Mr. Tsavangirai, I fear he will become the Benigno Aquino of Zimbabwe. Make of that what you will.


 clear ether

 eon</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Zimbabwe has been the victim of muddle-headedness on the part of international &#8220;social reformers&#8221; for the last thirty years, going back to Jimmy Carter. To expect the UN, at this late date, to stand up to a thug like Mugabe is expecting the Sun to rise in the west tomorrow morning.</p>
<p> And even if there is some sort of international move to censure Mugabe, it will not last. For the simple reason that too many of those very same &#8220;reformers&#8221; secretly (or not so secretly) <em>admire</em> Mugabe. To paraphrase the late, great Graham Chapman re the Piranha Brothers (Doug and Dinsdale), Mugabe does what they can only<em> dream</em> of doing. Their response to him is precisely what it was to Saddam Hussein;</p>
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 Who cares if he&#8217;s slaughtering his own people en masse and at random? He&#8217;s just acting as a True Socialist Great Leader <em>should</em>!</p></blockquote>
<p> As for Mr. Tsavangirai, I fear he will become the Benigno Aquino of Zimbabwe. Make of that what you will.</p>
<p> clear ether</p>
<p> eon</p>
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		<title>By: Carl in Jerusalem</title>
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		<dc:creator>Carl in Jerusalem</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Jun 2008 11:51:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>How could this guy be so naive?</description>
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		<title>By: Maquis</title>
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		<dc:creator>Maquis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Jun 2008 11:48:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Tsvangirai is a walking martyr.  And, perhaps, as you alluded, a victim of the fantasy that the UN is what it claims itself to be, something no African should have any illusions about.  This is a difficult thing to watch.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tsvangirai is a walking martyr.  And, perhaps, as you alluded, a victim of the fantasy that the UN is what it claims itself to be, something no African should have any illusions about.  This is a difficult thing to watch.</p>
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