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	<title>Comments on: School teaches valuable lesson about drunk driving through searing psychological trauma</title>
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		<title>By: MSGTAS</title>
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		<dc:creator>MSGTAS</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Jun 2008 13:26:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The concept of telling kids the truth about any subject is the best way of getting through to them. They are capable of making their own decisions based on rational thought.  

But, never play with their heads, especially by lying to them, because it breaks the bond of trust.
 
Once that bond is broken they begin experimenting with things that are harmful for them.  Because, if the only one they can trust is themselves they will find out why things are bad for them on their own.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The concept of telling kids the truth about any subject is the best way of getting through to them. They are capable of making their own decisions based on rational thought.  </p>
<p>But, never play with their heads, especially by lying to them, because it breaks the bond of trust.</p>
<p>Once that bond is broken they begin experimenting with things that are harmful for them.  Because, if the only one they can trust is themselves they will find out why things are bad for them on their own.</p>
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		<title>By: Kevin M</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kevin M</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Jun 2008 11:14:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;And that&#039;s why you always leave a note.&quot; - The one armed man</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;And that&#8217;s why you always leave a note.&#8221; &#8211; The one armed man</p>
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		<title>By: labrat</title>
		<link>http://hotair.com/archives/2008/06/12/school-teaches-valuable-lesson-about-drunk-driving-through-searing-psychological-trauma/comment-page-1/#comment-1182231</link>
		<dc:creator>labrat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Jun 2008 09:11:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;On a Monday morning last month, highway patrol officers visited 20 classrooms at El Camino High School to announce some horrible news:&lt;/blockquote&gt; 

What would have happened to one of these students who made the same false statement to a highway patrol officer?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>On a Monday morning last month, highway patrol officers visited 20 classrooms at El Camino High School to announce some horrible news:</p></blockquote>
<p>What would have happened to one of these students who made the same false statement to a highway patrol officer?</p>
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		<title>By: labrat</title>
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		<dc:creator>labrat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Jun 2008 08:58:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So this is what passes for &quot;guidance counselling&quot; in this brave new world.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So this is what passes for &#8220;guidance counselling&#8221; in this brave new world.</p>
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		<title>By: labrat</title>
		<link>http://hotair.com/archives/2008/06/12/school-teaches-valuable-lesson-about-drunk-driving-through-searing-psychological-trauma/comment-page-1/#comment-1182217</link>
		<dc:creator>labrat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Jun 2008 08:27:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Another case for home-schooling.

Enrique on June 12, 2008 at 5:33 PM&lt;/blockquote&gt;

A-M-E-N!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Another case for home-schooling.</p>
<p>Enrique on June 12, 2008 at 5:33 PM</p></blockquote>
<p>A-M-E-N!!!</p>
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		<title>By: MirCat</title>
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		<dc:creator>MirCat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Jun 2008 04:25:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In the end it&#039;ll have the effect that Reefer Madness did.

- The Cat

&lt;blockquote&gt;Awesome. Anybody who thinks otherwise is a pussy.

Darth Executor on June 12, 2008 at 9:32 PM&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Said the man behind the keyboard :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In the end it&#8217;ll have the effect that Reefer Madness did.</p>
<p>- The Cat</p>
<blockquote><p>Awesome. Anybody who thinks otherwise is a pussy.</p>
<p>Darth Executor on June 12, 2008 at 9:32 PM</p></blockquote>
<p>Said the man behind the keyboard :)</p>
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		<title>By: hburns</title>
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		<dc:creator>hburns</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Jun 2008 03:54:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Man!  Do any of you people have teenagers? Do you realize how thickheaded they are?  I&#039;ve pushed two through that stage, and let me tell you, anything, ANYTHING short of physical harm that wakes then the frack up is OK in my book.

I understand, and even agree with the desire to have the schools stick to what they should be doing... a.k.a. Readin&#039; Writin&#039; &amp; &#039;Rithmatic.  But, if they&#039;re involved in this touchy-feely crap, at least this one might stick.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Man!  Do any of you people have teenagers? Do you realize how thickheaded they are?  I&#8217;ve pushed two through that stage, and let me tell you, anything, ANYTHING short of physical harm that wakes then the frack up is OK in my book.</p>
<p>I understand, and even agree with the desire to have the schools stick to what they should be doing&#8230; a.k.a. Readin&#8217; Writin&#8217; &amp; &#8216;Rithmatic.  But, if they&#8217;re involved in this touchy-feely crap, at least this one might stick.</p>
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		<title>By: Occasus</title>
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		<dc:creator>Occasus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Jun 2008 03:51:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yet another reason to homeschool.</description>
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		<title>By: SlimyBill</title>
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		<dc:creator>SlimyBill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Jun 2008 03:28:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Awesome. Anybody who thinks otherwise is a pussy.

Darth Executor on June 12, 2008 at 9:32 PM&lt;/blockquote&gt;I agree.

A severe ploy, but a lesson hammered home, never to be forgotten.

The only people traumatized, I bet, are a handful of parents and a gaggle of commenters at HotAir.com</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Awesome. Anybody who thinks otherwise is a pussy.</p>
<p>Darth Executor on June 12, 2008 at 9:32 PM</p></blockquote>
<p>I agree.</p>
<p>A severe ploy, but a lesson hammered home, never to be forgotten.</p>
<p>The only people traumatized, I bet, are a handful of parents and a gaggle of commenters at HotAir.com</p>
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		<title>By: DaveC</title>
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		<dc:creator>DaveC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Jun 2008 03:16:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>my school did a &#039;play&#039;.. the entire school sat in the football bleachers and watched a car that was already wrecked in the middle of the football field..  the local ambulance was there to take the &#039;injured&#039; to the hospitable..  a few days later, on the CCTV, showed the aftermath of it all with a drama student (who&#039;s acting sucked... we all laughed at him) ending up on trial and going to jail because he got drunk, tried to drive, got into a wreck, killed his girlfriend, and went to jail..

&lt;blockquote&gt;Sounds like something that would happen on South Park

redshirt on June 12, 2008 at 7:04 PM&lt;/blockquote&gt;

&lt;a href=&quot;http://stansdad.com/season6/episode16/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt; &lt;strong&gt;&lt;em&gt;This  &lt;/em&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/a&gt; is the closest thing I think South Park has done like that..</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>my school did a &#8216;play&#8217;.. the entire school sat in the football bleachers and watched a car that was already wrecked in the middle of the football field..  the local ambulance was there to take the &#8216;injured&#8217; to the hospitable..  a few days later, on the CCTV, showed the aftermath of it all with a drama student (who&#8217;s acting sucked&#8230; we all laughed at him) ending up on trial and going to jail because he got drunk, tried to drive, got into a wreck, killed his girlfriend, and went to jail..</p>
<blockquote><p>Sounds like something that would happen on South Park</p>
<p>redshirt on June 12, 2008 at 7:04 PM</p></blockquote>
<p><a href="http://stansdad.com/season6/episode16/" rel="nofollow"> <strong><em>This  </em></strong></a> is the closest thing I think South Park has done like that..</p>
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		<title>By: Darth Executor</title>
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		<dc:creator>Darth Executor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Jun 2008 01:32:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Awesome. Anybody who thinks otherwise is a pussy.</description>
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		<title>By: Alex_SF</title>
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		<dc:creator>Alex_SF</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Jun 2008 01:10:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;I like to know what makes this particularly worse? Is it the element of deception? Is it the emotional pain?&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Yes and yes.  The deception undermines trust in authority figures (which maybe isn&#039;t all that bad a thing, I guess).  But the emotional manipulation is sick.  Particularly since adolescents are emotionally volatile by nature and thus hypersensitive to this kind of thing, especially in today&#039;s culture of wallowing in maudlin grief-orgies after every tragedy, crime, or accident that results in the death of young people.

So it&#039;s a cheap stunt, a shot below the belt if you will. And to make it worse, the trauma (and then the rug-pulling-out &quot;just kidding&quot; afterward) is applied indiscriminately, even to kids who would never even &lt;em&gt;think&lt;/em&gt; of drinking and driving -- because I guess since you never know who&#039;s at risk, you have to make everybody suffer, right?  Reminds me of the justification for the TSA strip-searching little old ladies at airports.

I particularly hate the &quot;if it saves just one life&quot; justification for silliness, especially when there are too many &quot;what ifs&quot; to tell whether the silliness made any difference or not.  Though I&#039;m sure that if grad night goes off this year without any students being killed in drunken driving crashes, these administrators will rush to take the credit.  Invisible tiger repellent, anybody?

(clicking just once this time ...)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>I like to know what makes this particularly worse? Is it the element of deception? Is it the emotional pain?</p></blockquote>
<p>Yes and yes.  The deception undermines trust in authority figures (which maybe isn&#8217;t all that bad a thing, I guess).  But the emotional manipulation is sick.  Particularly since adolescents are emotionally volatile by nature and thus hypersensitive to this kind of thing, especially in today&#8217;s culture of wallowing in maudlin grief-orgies after every tragedy, crime, or accident that results in the death of young people.</p>
<p>So it&#8217;s a cheap stunt, a shot below the belt if you will. And to make it worse, the trauma (and then the rug-pulling-out &#8220;just kidding&#8221; afterward) is applied indiscriminately, even to kids who would never even <em>think</em> of drinking and driving &#8212; because I guess since you never know who&#8217;s at risk, you have to make everybody suffer, right?  Reminds me of the justification for the TSA strip-searching little old ladies at airports.</p>
<p>I particularly hate the &#8220;if it saves just one life&#8221; justification for silliness, especially when there are too many &#8220;what ifs&#8221; to tell whether the silliness made any difference or not.  Though I&#8217;m sure that if grad night goes off this year without any students being killed in drunken driving crashes, these administrators will rush to take the credit.  Invisible tiger repellent, anybody?</p>
<p>(clicking just once this time &#8230;)</p>
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		<title>By: MB007</title>
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		<dc:creator>MB007</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Jun 2008 00:47:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I noticed that a few others mentioned the Every 15 Minutes program, which they did at my high school not too long ago.  The only difference was that someone in a grim reaper costume came and walked a kid (who knew beforehand) out of class instead of just scaring the pants off of everyone by saying a classmate was dead (which is pretty sick.)  The traumatizing part for us was the mock funeral staged the next day, accompanied with a video depicting parents &quot;learning&quot; about their children&#039;s &quot;deaths&quot; and going to the hospital or morgue.  Do I think it was effective, though?  No.  Some of the kids &lt;em&gt;involved&lt;/em&gt; in the project showed up passed-out drunk at subsequent parties and &quot;sober&quot; grad anyway.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I noticed that a few others mentioned the Every 15 Minutes program, which they did at my high school not too long ago.  The only difference was that someone in a grim reaper costume came and walked a kid (who knew beforehand) out of class instead of just scaring the pants off of everyone by saying a classmate was dead (which is pretty sick.)  The traumatizing part for us was the mock funeral staged the next day, accompanied with a video depicting parents &#8220;learning&#8221; about their children&#8217;s &#8220;deaths&#8221; and going to the hospital or morgue.  Do I think it was effective, though?  No.  Some of the kids <em>involved</em> in the project showed up passed-out drunk at subsequent parties and &#8220;sober&#8221; grad anyway.</p>
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		<title>By: RightWinged</title>
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		<dc:creator>RightWinged</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Jun 2008 00:27:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow, I can&#039;t believe another school would try this so quickly... Red Eye (among others) covered another school doing this like a month or two ago.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow, I can&#8217;t believe another school would try this so quickly&#8230; Red Eye (among others) covered another school doing this like a month or two ago.</p>
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		<title>By: reaganaut</title>
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		<dc:creator>reaganaut</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Jun 2008 00:12:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Alex_SF on June 12, 2008 at 5:38 PM&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;Alex_SF on June 12, 2008 at 5:35 PM&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;Alex_SF on June 12, 2008 at 5:31 PM&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;Alex_SF on June 12, 2008 at 5:30 PM&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;em&gt;Dude?&lt;/em&gt;

&quot;I just want you to know we&#039;re all counting on you, good luck.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Alex_SF on June 12, 2008 at 5:38 PM</p></blockquote>
<blockquote><p>Alex_SF on June 12, 2008 at 5:35 PM</p></blockquote>
<blockquote><p>Alex_SF on June 12, 2008 at 5:31 PM</p></blockquote>
<blockquote><p>Alex_SF on June 12, 2008 at 5:30 PM</p></blockquote>
<p><em>Dude?</em></p>
<p>&#8220;I just want you to know we&#8217;re all counting on you, good luck.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Akzed</title>
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		<dc:creator>Akzed</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Jun 2008 23:56:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;As a teacher, I’d love to rip into the jackass who came up with this idea in the lunchroom.

Little Boomer on June 12, 2008 at 5:49 PM&lt;/blockquote&gt;

How do you know that he came up with this idea in the lunchroom, teacher?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>As a teacher, I’d love to rip into the jackass who came up with this idea in the lunchroom.</p>
<p>Little Boomer on June 12, 2008 at 5:49 PM</p></blockquote>
<p>How do you know that he came up with this idea in the lunchroom, teacher?</p>
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		<title>By: Akzed</title>
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		<dc:creator>Akzed</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Jun 2008 23:54:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Horsewhip the parties responsible, then tell them they weren&#039;t really horsewhipped.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Horsewhip the parties responsible, then tell them they weren&#8217;t really horsewhipped.</p>
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		<title>By: TheUnrepentantGeek</title>
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		<dc:creator>TheUnrepentantGeek</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Jun 2008 23:52:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;If you knew that keeping all the kids home under lock and key would prevent “killing themselves or someone else in a drunk driving incident, would it be worth it?”

If you knew having a person assigned to them night and day…
If you knew that having every kid in high school not allowed to drive…
If you knew that a curfew of 9pm for all high school…
If you knew how stupid that argument is…

right2bright on June 12, 2008 at 7:09 PM&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Actually, I&#039;m unsure of my position on this and honestly wanted to know what people thought.  There&#039;s no need to jump on me.

But, for the purpose of the discussion, I&#039;ll take the bait. Why is the argument stupid?

Isn&#039;t comparing a single traumatic &quot;lesson&quot; with revoking driving privileges indefinitely or posting constant watch on a child taking the concept to a ridiculous degree?

We all make choices to restrict freedom or impose penalties to teach our children.  Some parents spank, some use time out.  Some judge spanking cruel and even worthy of having one&#039;s children taken away.  These things are on a continuum, and I like to know what makes this particularly worse?  Is it the element of deception?  Is it the emotional pain?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>If you knew that keeping all the kids home under lock and key would prevent “killing themselves or someone else in a drunk driving incident, would it be worth it?”</p>
<p>If you knew having a person assigned to them night and day…<br />
If you knew that having every kid in high school not allowed to drive…<br />
If you knew that a curfew of 9pm for all high school…<br />
If you knew how stupid that argument is…</p>
<p>right2bright on June 12, 2008 at 7:09 PM</p></blockquote>
<p>Actually, I&#8217;m unsure of my position on this and honestly wanted to know what people thought.  There&#8217;s no need to jump on me.</p>
<p>But, for the purpose of the discussion, I&#8217;ll take the bait. Why is the argument stupid?</p>
<p>Isn&#8217;t comparing a single traumatic &#8220;lesson&#8221; with revoking driving privileges indefinitely or posting constant watch on a child taking the concept to a ridiculous degree?</p>
<p>We all make choices to restrict freedom or impose penalties to teach our children.  Some parents spank, some use time out.  Some judge spanking cruel and even worthy of having one&#8217;s children taken away.  These things are on a continuum, and I like to know what makes this particularly worse?  Is it the element of deception?  Is it the emotional pain?</p>
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		<title>By: Sackett</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sackett</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Jun 2008 23:46:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Instead of pushing all these social goals through the school system maybe we should, I don;t know, let the parents do their own job, and have the schools on teaching actual scholastic topics- like math and reading.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Instead of pushing all these social goals through the school system maybe we should, I don;t know, let the parents do their own job, and have the schools on teaching actual scholastic topics- like math and reading.</p>
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		<title>By: right2bright</title>
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		<dc:creator>right2bright</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Jun 2008 23:44:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;My daughters SADD group did something like this but they had the grim reaper pull students out of class and later at an assembly explained why the students were taken. It actually was a wonderful program

CaCa on June 12, 2008 at 7:22 PM&lt;/blockquote&gt;
That I get, this other I don&#039;t get it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>My daughters SADD group did something like this but they had the grim reaper pull students out of class and later at an assembly explained why the students were taken. It actually was a wonderful program</p>
<p>CaCa on June 12, 2008 at 7:22 PM</p></blockquote>
<p>That I get, this other I don&#8217;t get it.</p>
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		<title>By: CaCa</title>
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		<dc:creator>CaCa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Jun 2008 23:22:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My daughters SADD group did something like this but they had the grim reaper pull students out of class and later at an assembly explained why the students were taken. It actually was a wonderful program</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My daughters SADD group did something like this but they had the grim reaper pull students out of class and later at an assembly explained why the students were taken. It actually was a wonderful program</p>
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		<title>By: jeff_from_mpls</title>
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		<dc:creator>jeff_from_mpls</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Jun 2008 23:21:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great, now while you&#039;re at it, please tell the youngsters that global warming is a big fat hoax perpetrated by collectivist utopians. We&#039;re not all going to die, and we&#039;re sure as hell not killing the polar bears.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great, now while you&#8217;re at it, please tell the youngsters that global warming is a big fat hoax perpetrated by collectivist utopians. We&#8217;re not all going to die, and we&#8217;re sure as hell not killing the polar bears.</p>
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		<title>By: SoulGlo</title>
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		<dc:creator>SoulGlo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Jun 2008 23:18:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That&#039;s horrible.  There are other and more effective ways to teach kids about the dangers of drunk driving.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That&#8217;s horrible.  There are other and more effective ways to teach kids about the dangers of drunk driving.</p>
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		<title>By: right2bright</title>
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		<dc:creator>right2bright</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Jun 2008 23:10:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;No.

Esthier on June 12, 2008 at 6:56 PM&lt;/blockquote&gt;
You&#039;re a lot more patient and kind then me.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>No.</p>
<p>Esthier on June 12, 2008 at 6:56 PM</p></blockquote>
<p>You&#8217;re a lot more patient and kind then me.</p>
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		<title>By: right2bright</title>
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		<dc:creator>right2bright</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Jun 2008 23:09:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;    If you knew for a fact that it prevented one or more of them from killing themselves or someone else in a drunk driving incident, would it be worth it?

    TheUnrepentantGeek on June 12, 2008 at 6:26 PM&lt;/blockquote&gt;
If you knew that keeping all the kids home under lock and key would prevent &quot;killing themselves or someone else in a drunk driving incident, would it be worth it?&quot;

If you knew having a person assigned to them night and day...
If you knew that having every kid in high school not allowed to drive...
If you knew that a curfew of 9pm for all high school...
If you knew how stupid that argument is...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>    If you knew for a fact that it prevented one or more of them from killing themselves or someone else in a drunk driving incident, would it be worth it?</p>
<p>    TheUnrepentantGeek on June 12, 2008 at 6:26 PM</p></blockquote>
<p>If you knew that keeping all the kids home under lock and key would prevent &#8220;killing themselves or someone else in a drunk driving incident, would it be worth it?&#8221;</p>
<p>If you knew having a person assigned to them night and day&#8230;<br />
If you knew that having every kid in high school not allowed to drive&#8230;<br />
If you knew that a curfew of 9pm for all high school&#8230;<br />
If you knew how stupid that argument is&#8230;</p>
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