Quote of the day

posted at 10:30 pm on June 12, 2008 by Allahpundit

“There are groups that oppose everything, unless it tries to bring moral destruction of people, and I feel sad for them.”

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“In every society there has to be a law from within or a law from without. The more you have of one the less you need of the other.”

Edmund Burke

SteveMG on June 12, 2008 at 10:35 PM

It will be interesting to see how long these laws, and these license plates. last.

Buford Gooch on June 12, 2008 at 10:35 PM

Wow. Describes the ACLU to a tee.

Sydney Carton on June 12, 2008 at 10:35 PM

aclu, our liberal robed gods on the scotus…

jp on June 12, 2008 at 10:40 PM

I’m sure the over taxed, homeless, and jobless of South Carolina are thrilled at the Lt. Governor’s efforts on their behalf. Staying focused on what’s really important, like most other politicians in this country do…

Hog Wild on June 12, 2008 at 10:40 PM

“I Believe”

That sounds like an Obama supporters slogan to me.

MB4 on June 12, 2008 at 10:41 PM

It will be interesting to see how long these laws, and these license plates. last.

Buford Gooch on June 12, 2008 at 10:35 PM

I betcha they sell like hotcakes.

CP on June 12, 2008 at 10:45 PM

“Conservatives believe man was created in God’s image, while liberals believe they are gods. All of the behavioral tics of the liberals proceed from their godless belief that they can murder the unborn because they, the liberals, are themselves gods. They try to forcibly create ‘equality’ through affirmative action and wealth redistribution because they are gods. They flat-out lie, with no higher power to constrain them, because they are gods. They adore pornography and the mechanization of sex because man is just an animal, and they are gods. They revere the UN and not the U.S. because they aren’t Americans — they are gods.” –Ann Coulter

jp on June 12, 2008 at 10:46 PM

“This is an example of the government’s underhanded attempts to endorse one particular religious viewpoint over all others under the guise of neutral education,” said T. Jeremy Gunn, director of the ACLU’s Program of Freedom of Religion and Belief. “Religion belongs where it prospers best: with individuals, families and religious communities.“

I may need to rethink my stance on the ACLU.

VolMagic on June 12, 2008 at 10:48 PM

Mark Sanford is seriously on fire in the Palmetto State. He backed candidates to run against Republican stalwarts in the primary and won almost every race Tuesday, with one going to a run-off. All this after he man-handled the Republican establishment in the statehouse senate to pass a true illegal immigration bill. There is hope out there folks.

SouthernGent on June 12, 2008 at 10:55 PM

That sounds like an Obama supporters slogan to me.

MB4 on June 12, 2008 at 10:41 PM

I swear, when I started to read the article I thought “NO, it begins, it’s an Obama license thing, I Believe“.

Entelechy on June 12, 2008 at 10:55 PM

That sounds like an Obama supporters slogan to me.

MB4 on June 12, 2008 at 10:41 PM

That’s what i thought it was gonna turn out to be.

surrounded on June 12, 2008 at 10:57 PM

VolMagic, Hog Wild

Sure, let’s dump this license plate program, & then let’s scrape every reference to religion from the monuments in DC, from the monuments in most state capitals, from our currency, from the Pledge of Allegiance, & from the Constitution.

jgapinoy on June 12, 2008 at 10:59 PM

the founders held church services in govt. buildings, and the ACLU says a state can’t allow a citizen to choose a cross on their license plates.

jp on June 12, 2008 at 11:02 PM

The problem is that it’s come one, come all. Wiccans will want their plate too. And you know if they don’t get one, then nobody gets one. I think it’s going to be short-lived.

RBMN on June 12, 2008 at 11:10 PM

I just saw the new Indiana Jones movie.

It was morally destructive and made me sad.

Rhinoboy on June 12, 2008 at 11:12 PM

Gonna be interesting,I wanna licence plate that can’t
be confused with Obama or the left!

Like, The Power of the Rat,Chevorlet 502: Rat502,FST454!

Or, Fuel injection is nice,but I would rather be Blown,
as in force-air inducted by the ol’supercharger!

And,it also will piss off the Enviromentalist’s in one
grande swoop with the fuel economy thingy,that way
I can piss off two groups in fell swoop,2 birds with
one stone*so to speak! haha :)

*(canopfor regrets any cofusion with stone,as it might
be misconstrude as stones used in in a stoneing of you
no who,for you no what!) haha :)

canopfor on June 12, 2008 at 11:18 PM

jgapinoy on June 12, 2008 at 10:59 PM

Not at all.

VolMagic on June 12, 2008 at 11:22 PM

oops: that should be confusion,and not cofusion,
but cufusion does sound hip!

canopfor on June 12, 2008 at 11:22 PM

Wiccans will want their plate too.

RBMN on June 12,2008 at 11:10PM.

RBMN: The plate would have a boiling pot!

How about atheists,AllahPundit no disrespect :),
the plate would have a cross with an X through it!
Ha ha!

canopfor on June 12, 2008 at 11:31 PM

I may need to rethink my stance on the ACLU.

VolMagic on June 12, 2008 at 10:48 PM

Don’t be fooled. The ACLU hates religion, and specifically Christianity, with all the passion of Satan. They would like nothing more than for Christians to be driven back to the catacombs or fed to the lions again. They hate Christianity and everything that it stands for.

Sydney Carton on June 12, 2008 at 11:44 PM

the plate would have a cross with an X through it!

wouldn’t that just be an asterisk?

urbancenturion on June 12, 2008 at 11:45 PM

I betcha they sell like hotcakes.

CP on June 12, 2008 at 10:45 PM

I bet they do too. I don’t understand what everyone’s complaining about. No one has to buy these plates; it’s not like someone is twisting your arm to place them on your vehicle. As far as the ACLU, they wouldn’t be bitching if it were a Muslim-themed plate. They have consistently attacked the Judeo-Christian faiths, while they’ve given others a pass.
I can’t say that I’d buy one, but I think it’s pretty cool. Imagine the personalization creativity that could go along with the plate theme.

RMCS_USN on June 12, 2008 at 11:46 PM

wouldn’t that just be an asterisk?
urbancenturion on June 12,2008 at 11:45PM.

urbancenturion:That is an excellent point,but wouldn’t
that perplex the poor Lefty sitting at
the red light staring at the guy’s plate
ahead of him!Ha ha! :)

canopfor on June 12, 2008 at 11:52 PM

Obama: Do you have Hope?
Sheeple: I believe!
Obama: Do you want change?
Sheeple: I believe!!
Obama: Is My Michelle your Mama?
Sheeple: I believe!!!
Obama: Am I your Messiah?
Sheeple: I believe!!!!

MB4 on June 12, 2008 at 11:56 PM

Let the Wiccans have their plate.

Why not? ex:

Boil, boil

Trouble and toil.

Vote out the Dems

And drill for oil.

hillbillyjim on June 13, 2008 at 12:01 AM

If people want to pay extra to have a cross on their license tag, so what? Let the wicca weirdos have a wee little pot and maypole on theirs, and let the fees collected help fund the state natural parks, or whatever.

It’s voluntary, so what’s the problem?

funky chicken on June 13, 2008 at 12:06 AM

I’m waiting with bated breath for the plate with the Splodeyhead Mo cartoon.

Of course that’s not free speech, it’s hate speech. All plates henceforth to be restricted to rainbows and unicorns, (and hope and change, of course.)

hillbillyjim on June 13, 2008 at 12:16 AM

American

Communist

Liberal

Underwriters

hillbillyjim on June 13, 2008 at 12:23 AM

Apparently, the ACLU has a “Program of Freedom of Religion and Belief”.

Glad I wasn’t drinking coffee when I read that. I like my monitor.

A bigger oxymoron does not exist.

Hawkins1701 on June 13, 2008 at 12:26 AM

I don’t think this is anything dramatic except for people who want to take offense will (AP). The people of SC don’t see this as a big deal. We live in a society where anyone can sue for anything. . . so that’s why it’s a big deal, I guess.

The problem is that it’s come one, come all. Wiccans will want their plate too. And you know if they don’t get one, then nobody gets one. I think it’s going to be short-lived.

RBMN on June 12, 2008 at 11:10 PM

Nobody is saying that is a problem. If wiccans or even Muslims want their own license plate there are avenues for them to attain it (you have to sell a certain number). The First Amendment says that congress shall make NO LAW that keeps people from practicing religion. If you ban things like this, that keeps people from practicing religion and violates the FIRST amendment.

As I said, the only people who have a problem with this are people who HATE Christians for some unknown reason (AP). Don’t New Yorkers have more important things to do like find other foreigners to buy landmark buildings? Come on you know Saudi Arabia wants that Empire State Building. It can be the American Kabaa. Come on AP, you know that’s coming. . . wouldn’t an atheist just love that? Abu Dhabi has the Chrysler building. . . King Kong’s revenge has to be next. . . it must look like a huge oil well to the Saudis.

They can give the call to prayer from the top of it 5 times a day! Wouldn’t you be so lucky AP?

ThackerAgency on June 13, 2008 at 12:46 AM

As I said, the only people who have a problem with this are people who HATE Christians for some unknown reason (AP). Don’t New Yorkers have more important things to do like find other foreigners to buy landmark buildings? Come on you know Saudi Arabia wants that Empire State Building. It can be the American Kabaa. Come on AP, you know that’s coming. . . wouldn’t an atheist just love that? Abu Dhabi has the Chrysler building. . . King Kong’s revenge has to be next. . . it must look like a huge oil well to the Saudis.

They can give the call to prayer from the top of it 5 times a day! Wouldn’t you be so lucky AP?

Rant incoherently much?

hillbillyjim on June 13, 2008 at 1:15 AM

The First Amendment says that congress shall make NO LAW that keeps people from practicing religion. If you ban things like this, that keeps people from practicing religion and violates the FIRST amendment. – ThackerAgency

Needs to be reprinted for emphasis.

S on June 13, 2008 at 1:19 AM

I fail to understand the problem here. There shouldn’t be any group denied a special plate as long as it falls into the specifics set up for production. Look at it this way, if you see someone with a tag, bumper sticker, or some other display promoting their beliefs you have a head start on whether you want to associate with them. How great is that! We need to stop trying to squelch peoples’ abililty to express themselves. One of my all time favorite bumper sticker was “Think Green. Vote Blue.” on a giant ass SUV. Now there is a person you want to sit down and have a cup of coffee with.

Cindy Munford on June 13, 2008 at 1:23 AM

Any group – except the Muslims- has the right to put whatever it wants on its license plates .

Indy Conservative on June 13, 2008 at 1:50 AM

Rant incoherently much?

hillbillyjim on June 13, 2008 at 1:15 AM

A lot lately, it seems.

“Wow, all these sanctimonious claims of victim hood. Um, can a protestant be Pope? How about a Protestant being a Bishop or a Priest within the Catholic Church?

Shocking the bigotry within the Vatican against other Christians. They MUST change their rules so that the Catholics aren’t so bigoted against Christians.

ThackerAgency on June 12, 2008 at 3:30 PM

How about Communion? What’s that? Protestants aren’t allowed nor seen as equals? Bigot Bigot Bigot. Catholics are all Bigots. Catholics are welcome to take communion in protestant churches as equals. Who are the bigots here?

ThackerAgency on June 12, 2008 at 3:33 PM

ThackerAgency on June 12, 2008 at 3:33 PM

How do you manage to twist a post about a kid who would have no problem pledging allegiance to his country rather than to the Queen herself into another set of Catholic bashing posts?

You really need to get a grip.

Connie on June 12, 2008 at 6:27 PM”

Connie on June 13, 2008 at 2:35 AM

Bigot Bigot Bigot. Catholics are all Bigots.

Connie on June 13, 2008 at 2:35 AM

Yep, seem Thacker has a problem with Catholics.

I have no problem with religious displays on public property. Any religious display.

Zorro on June 13, 2008 at 6:43 AM

I look forward to the “Submit” license plates, the “Yes We Can” plates, the “Go with Buddha” plates, the “War is Not the Answer” plates, the “Bless Mother Gaia” plates, the “Wiccken Way” plates, the “God loves Gays” plates… ad infinitum. In fact, if the stupid Gov’t would just get rid of those pesky identification numbers there would be a lot more room for the Gov’t to sponsor all the “correct” messages that any driver wants to display. And why stop there? We could build monuments to Islam in places like rural Pennsylvania becuase of course in this country we have freedom to practice our religion…but at the tax payer’s expense? Personally I’d rather see tax dollars spent on the bare minimum. Car bumpers are plenty long enough to say whatever it is an individual is compelled to say – without demanding taxpayers condone and pay for something/anything someone with enough money for lawyers insists on making happen. Getting on board this train is just another recipe for long court battles costing taxpayers lots and lots of money. Nobody will “win” except the lawyers.

rhombus on June 13, 2008 at 8:12 AM

“This is an example of the government’s underhanded attempts to endorse one particular religious viewpoint over all others under the guise of neutral education,” said T. Jeremy Gunn, director of the ACLU’s Program of Freedom of Religion and Belief. “Religion belongs where it prospers best: with individuals, families and religious communities.”

So there is no reason I can’t show my belief in the form of a license on my individual family car driving around my community is there?. If you don’t believe, don’t buy it. Where can I pre-order one?

ctmom on June 13, 2008 at 8:13 AM

rhombus on June 13, 2008 at 8:12 AM

That train left the station along time ago.

ctmom on June 13, 2008 at 8:15 AM

Any group – except the Muslims- has the right to put whatever it wants on its license plates .

Really? The KKK? White Supremacists? New Black Panthers? NARAL? And why not Muslims? I thought there was still freedom to practice religion in this country. Muslims, Buddhists, Christians and Jews all have a right to a license plate. I have no problem with any of them.

robblefarian on June 13, 2008 at 8:30 AM

ctmom: It could be that the train left the station long ago. Wait and see if I’m not right about the lawyers and the taxpayer expense… not to mention the license plate messages that will offend many of the same sheep who insistently jumped on board.

rhombus on June 13, 2008 at 8:52 AM

Bigot Bigot Bigot. Catholics are all Bigots.

Yep, seem Thacker has a problem with Catholics.

Zorro on June 13, 2008 at 6:43 AM

Yikes!. You made it look like I was the one who wrote that bit of ugliness.

Connie on June 13, 2008 at 9:08 AM

Any group – except the Muslims- has the right to put whatever it wants on its license plates .

Indy Conservative on June 13, 2008 at 1:50 AM

Why the exception?

Entelechy on June 13, 2008 at 11:07 AM

Government offering more choices that tax payers actually want? Horrors.

TheUnrepentantGeek on June 13, 2008 at 11:27 AM

Who has a right not to be offended? I know people who look for things to get bent out of shape about. I get “offended” at vanity plates that I can’t figure out! Who’s fault is that? So I am not bringing the potato salad to the Mensa picnic. It is a good discussion because there really is a lot of stuff around that can offend but I get really worried about trying to put a stop to it because it makes us so much weaker as humans if we can’t shake it off and live our lives.

Cindy Munford on June 13, 2008 at 11:38 AM

I was responding to the other comments from Catholics who were calling England bigots for their practices. Michelle Malkin is Catholic, my chef of 5 years is Catholic. I have no problem with Catholics. I have a problem with their ‘holier than thou’ attitudes that were displayed on that thread.

If there has been persecutions, the Catholic Church has certainly done its share of persecuting. They exclude non-Catholics all the time. The posts on that thread were about how awful it was that Catholics were ‘discriminated against’. In history, Catholicism has discriminated, burned people at the stakes, etc. I don’t have a problem with Catholics – just their ‘holier than thou’ attitude and knee jerk victim hood stance toward the rest of the world.

ThackerAgency on June 13, 2008 at 2:15 PM

What I am saying the way the Protestant British Monarchy has treated Catholics throughout history, there is no Catholic, in my own mind that should swear loyalty to such people who discriminate against him for his religion.

kcluva on June 12, 2008 at 1:52 PM

It’s a legacy of 500 years of official, state sponsored anti-Catholicism. Britian, historically, was among the most virulent places of anti-Catholicsm on the planet.

Sydney Carton on June 12, 2008 at 1:54 PM

The point is it’s the law that discriminates against Catholics, not the Queen, or indeed any of her predecessors for the last 250+ years.

passingtramp on June 12, 2008 at 2:07 PM

It would be nice if the Queen asked parliment to correct some of these bigoted laws.

Iblis on June 12, 2008 at 2:17 PM

Sorry I rained on all the Catholic’s pity party with comments about the EXACT SAME PRACTICES that the Catholic Church extends to non-Catholics that these posters had a problem with. Waah. Catholics are the only ones who are saved (according to most of them), but they are persecuted more than anyone else. As I said, ‘wah’.

ThackerAgency on June 13, 2008 at 2:26 PM

The head of England chooses the head of the Church of England. Suggesting that one should be anything other than a Protestant is like recommending the Pope be someone other than Catholic. It isn’t discrimination any more than the Pope being required to be Catholic.

ThackerAgency on June 13, 2008 at 2:28 PM

“I Believe” doesnt sound like an Obama slogan. I doubt even Obama believes much of what he is saying.

“I Want” would be my take for an Obama slogan. They want a bunch of stuff. Obama lets them fill in the blanks with his vague “Hope for Change” slogan

“I Believe” speaks out to Jesus Christ and I AM WHO AM.

Hope For Change is more directed to Jimminy Cricket.

song:

When you hope for something more
Males mo difference what your wishes are
Anything your heart wants
Might come to you

[if you vote for Hope for Change]

You dont know know what I believe
I could esily deceive
When you hope you are a dope
Your dreams are through

[if you vote for cipher Marxist]

entagor on June 13, 2008 at 6:19 PM