Sackett on June 12, 2008 at 11:24 AM

Precisely. As far as Huck and Mormons go, this is the last word.

Huckabee’s ‘question’: “Don’t [Mormons] believe Jesus and Satan are brothers?” is a direct lift from the anti-Mormon book and movie “The Godmakers” written by Ed Decker. (I happen to know a lot about all of this because I’m from Seattle and so I know all about the Deckerites- my father was actually business partners for a while with Ed’s cousin).

A copy of “The Godmakers” is owned by almost every Baptist Church in Oklahoma (I know because I traveled all over Oklahoma for two years and talked with multiple Baptist pastors about the subject). I doubt Arkansas Baptists are any different.

The question “Don’t you think Jesus and Satan are brothers?” is Ed Decker’s recommended opening attack- particularly in public debates.

Furthermore it is the opening attack in a very specific accusation that Ed Decker makes against Mormons: Mormons are a secretly Satanic cult that worships the Devil.

So when Huckabee used that question, he knowingly and deliberately signaled to all the Baptist pastors in Iowa that he was with them on the anti-Mormon front- and suggested that he considered Mormons to be Satanists.

How do you think Mormons are going to respond to this?

Perhaps Huckabee was unaware how aware Mormons are of anti-Mormon literature, and that therefor he would avoid offending us. I have found it to be quite common for Baptist pastors to assume I had never heard “The Godmakers” line of attack before, despite it being almost 2 decades old.

While it is true that most Mormons do not follow anti-Mormon literature closely (just like most rank and file Baptists don’t either), there is always one or two Mormons in each congregation that does keep tabs on these things and so as soon as Huckabee said that, every Mormon went and approached that person in their congregation to get their take on it. I know I was approached.

I want you to understand, I liked Huckabee previous to that statement. I was on the fence between Fred and Romney, but I was thinking that a Romney/Huckabee ticket would be pretty attractive.

But when a politician labels my faith as “Satanic”- he becomes dead to me. Most Mormons feel the same way- and I think that is perfectly understandable.

Huckabee as VP means McCain will lose Nevada, Colorado, and New Mexico- for sure. It will also close the door on Washington and Oregon, (although those are already long shots). It’s even possible that McCain could lose Utah over Huckabee. Unlikely I think, if only because of the strong conservatism there, but it’s not impossible. Remember that conservatives are already unhappy with McCain.

Huckabee is bad news. If Huckabee is picked as the VP candidate then the the Republican party in the West will be severely damaged. Huckabee should never appear on a national Republican ticket.

Huckabee sowed the wind, and reaps the whirlwind.

Are there any other candidates who’d deliver more right off the bat than he would?

Sure, but Mighty Mouse isn’t available this year.

I wasn’t voting for McCain anyway, but the GOP in its entirety might lose my vote if they’re stupid enough to create this turd of a ticket.

McCain/Huckabee: Because I haven’t eaten from the toilet this year.

This evangelical Christian wants no part of Huckabee in any elected office.

We need Federalist candidates that will return us to a constitutional foundation (read: far less government, a return of our freedoms), not another closet leftist like Huck claiming to be a conservative.

E-R
Fred ‘08

Hey nitwit…
peacenprosperity on June 11, 2008 at 11:24 PM

I think you should try re-reading my post.

Can you imagine a Jew’s dilemma when they think they have to vote for mccain, because of B.H.Obama and then they find the huckster on the ticket?

Perhaps reason # 1 why it would be a stupid move.

Well, beyond all the fiscal conservatives who would be outraged…”Club for Greed” indeed.

I’ve got a pesky one in one of the Oaks. Tomorrow is his day. I’ll ship him to ya if you want.

Limerick on June 11, 2008 at 8:38 PM

Well, now, that’s a mighty tempting offer, depending on what you’re planning to shoot for me – a squirrel, or a politician? ;-)

I’m probably the last fella who should be saying this but your recently banned buddy could use some traffic. Not my cup of tea but some of you fellas might drop him a line or two sometime. Not trying to divert you, just sayin :/

I just pray that you will hear and respond to God’s call someday.

SaintOlaf on June 11, 2008 at 7:38 PM

Hey nitwit, God doesn’t want you looking behind every tree for satan. That’s his job. He wants you living his Word and being an example. Condemning everyone who disagrees with you to eternal damnation is not your job and not living the Word. The King James bible has a section (and excuse my not having the correct book and verse ready, I’m too busy trying to live correctly to memorize numbers) that has Jesus saying, “Go forth and spread the word of God.” which implies intention. The actual transalation from Greek says, “AS you go forth in life.” Remember, “they will know us by our love.”? Convert by example, not be condemnation.

No, that’s my idea of what liberal elites THINK grassroots conservatives think. St.Goof-Olaf is a living simulacrum of the left-wing strawman of evangelical cartoonishness.

peski on June 11, 2008 at 7:13 PM

That and your original post are nonsensical.

I would agree with you except for the immediate external threats.

The generals will not let us be defeated. Unfortunately we are close to the point where the generals may step in.

Anyone who thinks I’m crazy is asleep.

“Wouldn’t Mike Huckabee be just the right Republican for this particular moment”?

Hell, no!

I’m still planning on voting for McCain, but with Huck as VP, nuh-uh.

Huckabee on the ticket makes it more fiscally and economically conservative, that’s the sad thing.

But the same garbage from McCain is greeted by a lot of shrugging.

Hillary is the biggest McCain booster in the country right now. She’ll make a few speeches for Obama this year that sound good and look good, but then tuck those primary votes under her Senate desk hoping Obama loses.

An Obama losss to McCain would make Hillary (again) the prohibitive frontrunner for the Dem nomination in 2012.
Since it seems unlikely McCain runs for two terms, whoever he picks as VP must be strong enough to beat Hillary in four years.

She will be back.

SouthernDem on June 11, 2008 at 9:10 PM

Thank goodness! I like Mr Nabors.

(It was another one of those Rovian dirty tricks that led me astray!)

Jim Nabors is dead? Since when?
Limerick on June 11, 2008 at 8:31 PM

He’s not, I just saw him sing “Back Home Again In Indiana” two weeks ago at Indy.

Allahpundit told me so.