McCain: Why, drilling in ANWR would be like drilling in the Grand Canyon

posted at 3:47 pm on June 11, 2008 by Allahpundit

He says what he means and he means what he says, even when it’s really stupid. How rote are his talking points on this issue? January 16, 2008 conference call with bloggers:

Mike Goldfarb: Some people are perplexed by your rhetoric on global warming. Is this one of those ‘no surrender’ issues, or is there room for discussion?

McCain: There’s always room for discussion. But I don’t know how any conservative can not support cap and trade. We did it with acid rain. The Europeans are putting it into effect. It’s a capitalist process that encourages green technologies. If we’re wrong, all we’ve done is adopt green technologies, in an effort to give our kids a greener planet.

As far as ANWR is concerned, I don’t want to drill in the Grand Canyon, and I don’t want to drill in the Everglades. This is one of the most pristine and beautiful parts of the world.

Goldfarb, incidentally, is now Team Maverick’s official blogger. Townhall meeting today in Philly:

He wasn’t happy the subject came up. “I knew I should have ended this [before that question],” he said.

He said that he opposed drilling in ANWR for the same reason that he “would not drill in the Grand Canyon… I believe this area should be kept pristine.” (Proposed oil and gas exploration in ANWR would only affect 2,000 of its 19 million acres, or 0.01 percent.)

McCain’s chief virtue is also his vice: Economic and political circumstances may change, but gosh darn it, he’s sticking to his guns come what may. You’d better come up with one honey of a VP pick, Maverick. Exit question: How high do gas prices have to get before that precious 0.01 percent starts to look somewhat less pristine? Do we need to see actual gas lines? Or does Obama’s weakness here mean McCain can safely ignore this issue for the time being?


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He’s a hard-headed dolt as far as I’m concerned. But of course I’ll vote for him.

Oink on June 11, 2008 at 3:51 PM

Can we make this one the Wednesday stupid? Because that’s exactly what is position is regarding drilling on 0.01% of ANWR.

thirteen28 on June 11, 2008 at 3:52 PM

This is so f’ing stupid and infuriating.

CP on June 11, 2008 at 3:52 PM

He said that he opposed drilling in ANWR for the same reason that he “would not drill in the Grand Canyon… I believe this area should be kept pristine.”

Well…….now that he puts it THAT way…….ugh!

Talon on June 11, 2008 at 3:53 PM

Nah, just wrong and kinda dumb.

But oil shale isn’t far away, or that hard to get, and Shell has put lots of R & D investment into that shale. And the GOP folks in CO, UT, and WY are very interested in getting that industry going.

funky chicken on June 11, 2008 at 3:53 PM

McCain: Why, drilling in ANWR would be like drilling in the Grand Canyon

I didn’t know there was oil in the Grand Canyon. GREAT, lets drill it too !!

Maxx on June 11, 2008 at 3:53 PM

He’s not budging on anything- except his promise to secure the borders first.

Valiant on June 11, 2008 at 3:53 PM

Knowing this country’s political pigs in perpetuity, we’ll probably give the Chinese leases to drill in Anwar.

OhEssYouCowboys on June 11, 2008 at 3:53 PM

He is SO wrong on this issue. One of his beliefs is that each state should determine their own drilling policies and regulations.

Just ask Gov. Palin (who should be on the ticket) how Alaskans feel about drilling. They are begging for it !

For Pete’s Sake, John, this is a national emergency and crisis. DRILL HERE. DRILL NOW. !!!

stenwin77 on June 11, 2008 at 3:53 PM

I thought ANWR was just vast tundra.

RushBaby on June 11, 2008 at 3:54 PM

That jackas* is not fit to be President. Wait until the full benefits of $5 gasoline come home to roost. Our economy cannot tolerate these energy prices. We are screwed.

edgehead on June 11, 2008 at 3:54 PM

Nothing like pissing off everyone who owns a car, John. This is going to bite you big time. BTW, I live about 20 miles from a big electical generating plant which uses coal. One of the guys was in the barbershop the other day and said the cost of transportation to bring coal in had increased 42% over the last year.

a capella on June 11, 2008 at 3:55 PM

I’ve been to ANWR. It’s a mud hole. The Greens always show pictures of the pristine mountains. Those mountains are 300 miles from the proposed drill site on the Coastal Plain. Has McCain even been there? Ask him this question: How many Americans will ever get the chance to go to ANWR? I went there because I am a reporter. It was August 1990, and it was 30 degrees and sleeting. I swear to God, I watched a golden eagle try to take off in the wind, and he couldn’t. He finally gave up and walked. It’s a brutal, horrible place. We should have drilled it 20 years ago.

fleiter on June 11, 2008 at 3:56 PM

McCain: Why, drilling in ANWR would be like drilling in the Grand Canyon

People that are really very weird can get into sensitive positions and have a tremendous impact on history.
- Dan Quayle

MB4 on June 11, 2008 at 3:57 PM

The Europeans are putting it into effect.

That’s all you needed to say, John. That’s all you needed to say.

Just ask Gov. Palin (who should be on the ticket) how Alaskans feel about drilling. They are begging for it !

I don’t see the downside and neither do Alaskans. Only in John McCain’s twisted world is drilling a bad thing.

DRILL HERE. DRILL NOW. !!!

Somebody listened to Rush today…

malan89 on June 11, 2008 at 3:59 PM

I thought ANWR was just vast tundra.

RushBaby on June 11, 2008 at 3:54 PM

It is.

Talon on June 11, 2008 at 3:59 PM

I swear to God, I watched a golden eagle try to take off in the wind, and he couldn’t. He finally gave up and walked. It’s a brutal, horrible place. We should have drilled it 20 years ago.

fleiter on June 11, 2008 at 3:56 PM

We’re all going to be walking. Oh, and it sounds like Oklahoma.

OhEssYouCowboys on June 11, 2008 at 4:00 PM

thinking mccain is conservative is delusional.

just another reason not to vote for McObama.

right4life on June 11, 2008 at 4:00 PM

If we’re wrong, all we’ve done is adopt green technologies, in an effort to give our kids a greener planet.

We don’t want to go back to tomorrow, we want to go forward.
- Dan Quayle

MB4 on June 11, 2008 at 4:00 PM

You’d think, from listening to these nuts, that Saudi Arabia was once a lush forest of greenery.

Thank God we didn’t have these fools running things way back when or we would still be riding donkeys.

cntrlfrk on June 11, 2008 at 4:01 PM

Thanks for the geography lesson Mr. McCan’t. I didn’t know the pristine Everglades extended 50 miles off the coast of Florida.

BowHuntingTexas on June 11, 2008 at 4:01 PM

Alright then, since we’re comparing a wildlife reserve with a revered national park (apples/oranges), how about we redraw ANWR’s borders, reduce the reserve by .01% where the oil is, and redesignate the rest as a national park?

CliffHanger on June 11, 2008 at 4:01 PM

We didn’t pick him and we don’t like him but he’s all we got.

roux on June 11, 2008 at 4:02 PM

Don’t confuse him with the facts!

Cicero43 on June 11, 2008 at 4:02 PM

Well, except that there’s no oil under the Grand Canyon, so drilling there wouldn’t make any sense.

mojo on June 11, 2008 at 4:02 PM

I’ve got an idea!

We can keep it pristine by drilling from the opposite side of the earth, so that the ANWR’s surface will not be scarred. Then we just have to get it from the drillsites in China to the US and our dependence on imported oil will be over!!!

Wait a minute…………………….

Shy Guy on June 11, 2008 at 4:02 PM

This guy McCain is a dope–simple as that.

james23 on June 11, 2008 at 4:03 PM

We didn’t pick him and we don’t like him but he’s all we got.

he’s already been assimilated by the left…resistance is futile…

right4life on June 11, 2008 at 4:03 PM

This is one of the most pristine and beautiful parts of the world.

Which NOBODY WILL EVER NO TO VISIT!

And this is OUR guy? We’re screwed either way!

Tony737 on June 11, 2008 at 4:03 PM

This is an issue that GOP Senate candidates are going to have to run on, and they can certainly voice their disagreement with McCain on the issue … in a friendly, respectful way. I think it’s a winner issue for the GOP, and if it gains seats for the GOP, and McCain becomes POTUS, well, he is on record saying that elections have consequences and politicians should respect that.

I’d really like to see Hatch and McCain meet on this issue.

funky chicken on June 11, 2008 at 4:03 PM

I’m all for preserving wildlife, national parks, and national treasures. But we’re talking about .01% of ANWR in exchange for a significant improvement in living costs. Doesn’t seem like too big a deal.

amerpundit on June 11, 2008 at 4:03 PM

If we’re wrong

We are ready for any unforeseen event that may or may not occur.
- Dan Quayle

MB4 on June 11, 2008 at 4:03 PM

McCain will not get my vote and I don’t care if he wins or not.

Maxx on June 11, 2008 at 4:03 PM

It’s not so much the stupidity or stubbornness as it is the Gore-like preachiness when McCain speaks. I don’t want to be lectured on why a cold brown patch of land shouldn’t be exploited for oil. I want to know what he plans to do about $4.00 gas in specific terms not stupid vague platitudes like “new technology” or “green ventures.”

highhopes on June 11, 2008 at 4:03 PM

Ooops, ^ WILL EVER -go- TO VISIT ^

Tony737 on June 11, 2008 at 4:04 PM

Wasn’t exploiting the natural resources one of the main reasons for buying Alaska in the first place?

I bet China would pay us a pretty penny for it today. We could all buy imported crap with the money and live large for a year or two.

Bread and circuses.

I wish McCain wasn’t an asshole.

JiangxiDad on June 11, 2008 at 4:04 PM

Where are all the McShamnesty sycophants?

Sheesh. I can’t believe this is what we were handed…

Darksean on June 11, 2008 at 4:04 PM

I’m voting for him, but this is absurd.

There is no comparison between the two places except one has oil and the other doesn’t. This comes off as effete environmental snobbery. We have people freezing in the Winter due to high oil prices, and somehow drilling for oil in Alaska, with the blessing of the people that live there, is off limits since it’s “perty”.

How many people take burrow rides and sleep in tents at ANWR?

Hening on June 11, 2008 at 4:05 PM

I echo Rush:

Windfall freaking profits tax on beer distribution!

JiangxiDad on June 11, 2008 at 4:05 PM

Alright then, since we’re comparing a wildlife reserve with a revered national park (apples/oranges), how about we redraw ANWR’s borders, reduce the reserve by .01% where the oil is, and redesignate the rest as a national park?

CliffHanger on June 11, 2008 at 4:01 PM

works for me!

Who designated it a national wildlife reserve anyway? It seems that the globe has plenty of tundra for the migratory birds (or whatever) to live on…why a 19 million acre wildlife reserve?

funky chicken on June 11, 2008 at 4:05 PM

Hey Ed-

Tell McCain to suck an egg!

JiangxiDad on June 11, 2008 at 4:06 PM

Maybe McCain, who does like to hike the Grand Canyon, should go instead this year to ANWR, with cameras, just so everyone can see exactly what he means. ANWR looks pretty desolate as far as the eye can see in the pictures I’ve seen.

marybel on June 11, 2008 at 4:06 PM

We didn’t pick him and we don’t like him but he’s all we got.

roux on June 11, 2008 at 4:02 PM

And this is OUR guy? We’re screwed either way!

Tony737 on June 11, 2008 at 4:03 PM

It’s time for the human race to enter the solar system.
- Dan Quayle

MB4 on June 11, 2008 at 4:07 PM

Come to think of it, the entire world was pristine before people came along. The very first crop that caveman planted destroyed a pristine piece of land.
Let’s just stop all building, farming, mining and drilling, and restore Earth back to what it was.
McCain in 08!

redshirt on June 11, 2008 at 4:07 PM

Who designated it a national wildlife reserve anyway?

funky chicken on June 11, 2008 at 4:05 PM

It was placed under federal protection under Eisenhower, then was conserved under legislation in 1980.

amerpundit on June 11, 2008 at 4:07 PM

You’d think, from listening to these nuts, that Saudi Arabia was once a lush forest of greenery.

It was … millions of years ago, then (gasp!) GLOBAL WAAAAARMING struck! Because the Dinosaurs were driving SUVs!

Tony737 on June 11, 2008 at 4:07 PM

Mars is essentially in the same orbit.. Mars is somewhat the same distance from the Sun, which is very important. We have seen pictures where there are canals, we believe, and water. If there is water, that means there is oxygen. If oxygen, that means we can breathe.
- Dan Quayle,

MB4 on June 11, 2008 at 4:08 PM

I thought ANWR was just vast tundra.
RushBaby on June 11, 2008 at 3:54 PM

Yes. Of course McCain is totally wrong on this one.

Check this out: The case for ANWR

8. No Negative Impact on Animals: Oil and gas development and wildlife are successfully coexisting in Alaska ’s arctic. For example, the Central Arctic Caribou Herd (CACH) which migrates through Prudhoe Bay has grown from 3000 animals to its current level of 32,000 animals. The arctic oil fields have very healthy brown bear, fox and bird populations equal to their surrounding areas.

http://www.msunderestimated.com/CaribouNoImpact.jpg
(Wish I could post the pic but the link to it has got to do)

wise_man on June 11, 2008 at 4:09 PM

You’d better come up with one honey of a VP pick

Sarah!

Dr.Cwac.Cwac on June 11, 2008 at 4:09 PM

You’d think, from listening to these nuts, that Saudi Arabia was once a lush forest of greenery.
It was … millions of years ago, then (gasp!) GLOBAL WAAAAARMING struck! Because the Dinosaurs were driving SUVs!
Tony737 on June 11, 2008 at 4:07 PM

LAWL! You the man, Tony!

wise_man on June 11, 2008 at 4:10 PM

We are the hapless victims of a tragically flawed primary process. We have a nominee that nobody wants boosted by dems and independents in a few early open primaries. The left media chose this idiot and there is no one to represent us in this election. We don’t have two parties anymore, and a conservative party is badly needed along with a total overhaul of the primary process. Fuck New Hampshire! And South Carolina!

alycan1 on June 11, 2008 at 4:12 PM

The Iraq war better not end too soon. There isn’t any other issue besides it that McCain knows what the hell he’s talking about.

The truth is, the terrorists are getting McCain elected. Dumbasses.

JiangxiDad on June 11, 2008 at 4:12 PM

I didn’t know there was oil in the Grand Canyon. GREAT, lets drill it too !!

Maxx on June 11, 2008 at 3:53 PM

I was thinking exactly the same thing.

Attila (Pillage Idiot) on June 11, 2008 at 4:12 PM

alycan1 on June 11, 2008 at 4:12 PM

You said it! And not one of the other Republicans running said a word about it. What a sorry bunch of losers.

JiangxiDad on June 11, 2008 at 4:14 PM

Ummm… no John…

Its like not allowing drilling anywhere in 1/4th of Arizona, because it has a Grand Canyon…

Hmmm… 640 acres to a sq mile… so… 19 MILLION acres equals 29,687 Sq Miles… or about 1/4 of the State of Arizona…

Romeo13 on June 11, 2008 at 4:14 PM

I’m becoming more and more convinced that Saudi Arabia is the true power player in US politics. They bought our politicians with the money we paid them for oil. We seem strangely unwilling to compete with them for the insanely lucrative oil market. Take the craziest anti-semitic rant about Israel’s pernicious influence on US foreign policy, replace “Israel” with “Saudi Arabia,” and I’ll sign my name to it.

boko fittleworth on June 11, 2008 at 4:14 PM

This is getting the feel of the amnesty debate writ very, very large.

None of the political or punditry class get it, but the public does. Last night the bilious blowhard O’Reilly actually predicted disaster for the GOP if they don’t line up behind…a windfall profits tax.

No. Everyone gets it. Everyone understands supply and demand.

Drill here! Drill now! is going to become a deafening roar, drowning out both of the clueless dolts running for President.

How sad that once again neither of them will listen to the voice of the people.
Obama simply can’t. He can’t because to let the markets solve the problem through the vehicle of the oil companies not only goes against everything he believes, but if he had the audacity to suggest such hop, his funds would dry up quicker than a wet sidewalk on a summer day.

McCain…yeah, I’ll vote for him…

Or not, this is really pissing me off. Because this is the position he should have, and it may just trump the by-now-damn-near won war and the courts. And this is one I’m in agreement with the McCain haters on. If we’ve got to face a disaster of our own making, better it happens with Barry at the helm.

Wise up, McCain. This is The Issue.

Typhoon on June 11, 2008 at 4:16 PM

My friend in Alaska says: “I’ve been to the Grand Canyon, and ANWR, my friends, is NO Grand Canyon.”

marybel on June 11, 2008 at 4:16 PM

If we’re ever going to make any progress, McCain needs to hear a reason a liberal can get behind.

Like so: The global community, the Muslim street, and France are going to really, really hate us if we keep burning up other countries’ fossil fuel while squatting like fat, greedy toads on perhaps the world’s largest untapped reserves.

NellE on June 11, 2008 at 4:17 PM

Unbelievable. what a jackass.

phronesis on June 11, 2008 at 4:17 PM

This morning GOP leaders in the House opined that since Rep. Rahm Emanuel, the Dems Energy Committee chairman (chairperson? chairsentient?) said on MSNBC that “domestic energy production” has to be part of solving our energy shortage problem, he should support their new “No Excuses Energy Act”, which calls for drilling ANWR, building more refineries, building nuclear power plants, ceasing the dismantling of hydroelectric dams (no more of the “Make Rivers Wild Again” nonsense we’ve had since the Clintonistas were in power), and ending subsidies for corn-based ethanol.

I’d be interested in knowing whether or not Senator McCain supports this bill.

I suspect that Senator Obama is horrified by it, rather like Harry Reid and San Fran Nan Pelosi.

On second thought, never mind. None of the above will be satisfied until we are all freezing in the dark. They, on the other hand, will still be demanding their hot Starbuck’s lattes while they ride their stretch limos to the airport to take their private jets to Doha to decide what else they need to do to “Save Holy Mother Gaia”- from the rest of us.

Of course, with our civilization reduced to the medieval/Stone Age levels they seem enamored of, it’ll be interesting to see how many of their “necessities of life” will still be available to them.

Private jets, like John McCain’s A-4 Skyhawk, don’t run on solar power, wind power, or wishful thinking.

Neither does a civilization.

cheers

eon

eon on June 11, 2008 at 4:18 PM

You’d better come up with one honey of a VP pick, Maverick.

Do you actually think the VP pick would change McCain’s stances on issues like these? On the contrary, I think whoever gets the VP nomination will quickly adopt McCain’s own policies on things like ANWR and immigration, just like G.H.W. Bush adopted Reagan’s economic and social positions to get on the ticket (he carried those over, for the most part, into his own presidency.) Like it or not, a moderate Republican was nominated, and unless he loses, will remake the party in his image for the forseebale future.

Big S on June 11, 2008 at 4:18 PM

This Obama vs. McCain match is really begining to look like the Iran/Iraq war to me. It’s a damn shame they can’t both lose.

phronesis on June 11, 2008 at 4:20 PM

If you drink the Republican Koolaid and vote for this dolt…you will continue to get dolts! I shall NEVER for this dolt or any dolt that the Republicans put forth! If I don’t agree with them…I aint voting for them…period! You koolaid drinkers have a good time but don’t come on this site for the next 4 years if McCain is elected and bitch about what he does…you elected this fool!

sabbott on June 11, 2008 at 4:21 PM

I’ve been to ANWR. It’s a mud hole… It’s a brutal, horrible place.

fleiter on June 11, 2008 at 3:56 PM

McCain: “This is one of the most pristine and beautiful parts of the world.”

“Pristine” doesn’t mean what McCain thinks it means. Nincompoop.

Redhead Infidel on June 11, 2008 at 4:21 PM

Well HE may believe the area should remain pristine, but a majority of AMERICANS think we should drill there. Who the hell does he think he works for anyway?

Can’t this go on the ballot somehow?

ctmom on June 11, 2008 at 4:21 PM

Do you actually think the VP pick would change McCain’s stances on issues like these?
Big S on June 11, 2008 at 4:18 PM

No, but McCain is really old. Just sayin’.

phronesis on June 11, 2008 at 4:21 PM

The global community, the Muslim street, and France are going to really, really hate us if we keep burning up other countries’ fossil fuel while squatting like fat, greedy toads on perhaps the world’s largest untapped reserves.

NellE on June 11, 2008 at 4:17 PM

What a well thought-out, brilliant reframe! Bravo!

marybel on June 11, 2008 at 4:23 PM

A majority of the nation believes most Alaskans are opposed to opening ANWR, according to the poll, when in fact the opposite is true.

”The most import misperception is that Alaskans are opposed to ANWR,” Dittman said. ”They think they are defending us.”

Poll: America loves Alaska, but details lacking

DrSteve on June 11, 2008 at 4:23 PM

I’m all for preserving wildlife, national parks, and national treasures. But we’re talking about .01% of ANWR in exchange for a significant improvement in living costs. Doesn’t seem like too big a deal.

amerpundit on June 11, 2008 at 4:03 PM

I’ve been through this before on this site, but given the projected production of oil from ANWR, the daily U.S. oil consumption rates, and the supply and price of oil around the world, opening ANWR would not make that big of a dent in the cost of petroleum products. You can do the math yourself if you like; it’s not that hard.

Big S on June 11, 2008 at 4:23 PM

This is going to be a long, painful election. McCain’s statement actually made me cringe. Ugghh!

HotJavaJack on June 11, 2008 at 4:24 PM

Note to McCain: You’re not going to win.

WisCon on June 11, 2008 at 4:26 PM

Wise up, McCain. This is The Issue.

Typhoon on June 11, 2008 at 4:16 PM

You are correct. This may sink him. It will fester and boil during the runup to the election. A lot of voters may very well feel the Iraq issue is sufficiently over and done with and his position on pork alone isn’t going to save him. He’s becoming very vulnerable. Obama is the only thing he’s got going in his favor right now, and he needs separation.

a capella on June 11, 2008 at 4:26 PM

Same stance that it was last week. I still think he is dead wrong and that it can be drilled without killing a single ice-troll or eskimo.

Maybe Palin can get inside his head. I’ll still give me my vote but plan on keeping up with the screaming and hollering.

Limerick on June 11, 2008 at 4:27 PM

Didn’t McCain say the oil companies should share their profits with their customers? Someone tell him to talk to his wife who has some business experience.

Les in NC on June 11, 2008 at 4:27 PM

ugh

We are doomed..the Dems in Congress and John McCain are clueless. Sure..they drive around in their giant SUV’s while middle class Americans cant even afford to drive to work.

Time to mount a protest.

becki51758 on June 11, 2008 at 4:28 PM

Big S:

Projected production rates have a tendency to be wrong. Besides even if it doesn’t make a dent, we would be drilling and using our own oil. This is a big concern. Hell, at the very least, we should drill and store the production for use by our military. Ask yourself this: What if we get in a big war and our oil supply is cut off? Drill ANWR. Ask anyone who has been there: It’s not a big deal. The coastal plain of ANWR is flat-out ugly, windswept, and colder than a witch’s nipple. Drill the damn thing. And drill Florida, too. Right now, the Chinese are taking our oil by slant drilling from Cuban waters. Do you think they are protecting the environment? If we drill it ourselves, there will be much less chance of a spill.

fleiter on June 11, 2008 at 4:32 PM

How many million people visit the grand canyon every year?

How many million people visit ANWR every year?

How many people want to drill for oil in ANWR, let’s see a show of hands? Opposed?

The thought occurs to me, there is no need for protest marches, just take a couple of your friends to your local Republican campaign office, your local Senator’s or Representatives office, and ask to speak to someone in the campaign about drilling for oil.

Every day, two or three people show up, at every campaign office for every candidate, in every state, from now until November, and LOBBY the candidate to permit drilling for oil.

Would it work? No ‘phone calls, just a few people from the candidates district, asking to talk to the candidate, or the candidate’s representative, about drilling for oil, and make the case.

Do your homework, do your research, present the facts, and make the case.

rockhauler on June 11, 2008 at 4:32 PM

Windfall freaking profits tax on beer distribution!

Screw that. How about a windfall profits tax on the damages awarded to trial lawyers?

Mike Honcho on June 11, 2008 at 4:32 PM

As bad as $5.00 gas is, the last one with an oil field wins. There are just so many alternatives to oil that are on the cusp of viability now, including my favorite, solar-thermal. Since Arizona would benefit from that, I can see why an Arizona senator would be interested keeping ANWR, and Colorado oil shale for that matter, off the market.

Would drilling ANWR yield more or less benefits than getting rid of corn-based ethanol/pork?

pedestrian on June 11, 2008 at 4:33 PM

… but don’t come on this site for the next 4 years if McCain is elected and bitch about what he does … – Sabbott

I’d rather b!tch about McCain doing something stupid than b!tch about Obama doing something DISATROUS, like puling out of Iraq and letting it become the center of the Caliphate.

Tony737 on June 11, 2008 at 4:34 PM

Dittos the stupid part. Never elect a Senator to any important job, they can’t separate the stupidity of the Senate from their own.

Besides, Comrade Obama gave a speech a few years ago, which is the only thing that I can find that qualifies him for the job of President.

I vote we enact a beer distributor excess profits tax, say reduce the amount of profit the owner could take to a few percent and the rest goes to the government. For the children of course. You don’t want to take it all, do you?

tarpon on June 11, 2008 at 4:34 PM

There’s always room for discussion. But I don’t know how any conservative can not support cap and trade.

Yeah, what’s unconservative about a plan that vastly expands the scope and power of government to regulate and tax private industry to death? Nothing unconservative there, at least in Maverickland.

phronesis on June 11, 2008 at 4:34 PM

Big S on June 11, 2008 at 4:23 PM

Lets see… 1 MILLION barrels a day… at $140 a barrel, $140,000,000 a DAY which we are not giving to countries who do not really like us, or support our views.

And thats just ANWAR.

You are argueing for us to do nothing, because it won’t solve the whole problem… that why we are in this mess now.

Romeo13 on June 11, 2008 at 4:35 PM

We’re all going to be walking. Oh, and it sounds like Oklahoma.

OhEssYouCowboys on June 11, 2008 at 4:00 PM

.
No, Oklahoma is mountainous compared to the Slope. You can stand at street level in Deadhorse and see the Brooks Range over 200 miles away. Also, Oklahoma is not permafrost, which becomes swamp in the summer.

Think_b4_speaking on June 11, 2008 at 4:35 PM

Hurrah for McCain! While I’m not fond of his immigration stance, it’s great to have a Republican candidate that actually values the environment.

McCain is our next Teddy Roosevelt.

thuja on June 11, 2008 at 4:36 PM

pedestrian on June 11, 2008 at 4:33 PM

Compressed Natural Gas, then as the technology matures, Hydrogen.

Romeo13 on June 11, 2008 at 4:36 PM

Do you actually think the VP pick would change McCain’s stances on issues like these?
Big S on June 11, 2008 at 4:18 PM

No, but McCain is really old. Just sayin’.

phronesis on June 11, 2008 at 4:21 PM

Ha. I like your thinking.

BowHuntingTexas on June 11, 2008 at 4:36 PM

thuja on June 11, 2008 at 4:36 PM

Teddy would be rolling in his grave at that comparison.

Read up on what he said about immigration… how if they assimilate, its good, but it needs to be legal and orderly.

You do know that Teddy was an avid hunter? He was into USING the environment, without destroying it.

Romeo13 on June 11, 2008 at 4:38 PM

This is one of the most pristine and beautiful parts of the world.

Yeah ANWR is just such a huge tourist draw, i’m planning my next summer vacation there. Its trees, its Tundra, no one likes Tundra.

Rbastid on June 11, 2008 at 4:38 PM

alycan1 on June 11, 2008 at 4:12 PM

alycan1, you are exactly correct. Our primary process was entirely decided by Dems and independant voters. It is an absolute tragedy. Say what you want about Mitt, at least he, Fred, Hunter, Tanc, et al would have been on the right side of this issue. Not to mention being on the right side of the illegal immigration issue, Iraq, GWOT, economics and all certainly understood why McCain Feingold was horrifically unconstitutional. Take what we could have had and compare that to what we are now stuck with and its a crying shame.
McCain is a f’ing moron to boot. The guy is just thick. He’s stubborn. It doesn’t matter who his VP is. He’s going to do what he wants. Every thoughtful suggestion/piece of advice will go in one ear and out the other as he continues to clumsily stumble down the same unwavering misdirected pathway.

Zetterson on June 11, 2008 at 4:40 PM

sigh… What an idiot…

So I’ve suggested this several times and have never really had a response. What do you think of the idea…

(NEW) PRESIDENT: The Constitution of these United States provides detailed restrictions on Federal land use. In the 28 years since Congress appropriated ANWR as Federal land, none of the Constitutional requirements have been observed. This land has been unconstitutionally seized by the Federal Government. Therefore as President, I am issuing an Executive Order returning ANWR to the great state of Alaska. I pray that the state representatives listen to their consituents and engage in job and revenue creation by using the resources that God has given that great state!

dominigan on June 11, 2008 at 4:40 PM

So what? Drill the damned Grand Canyon.

When was the last time John McCain bought a gallon of gas?

EJDolbow on June 11, 2008 at 4:40 PM

I’ve been to ANWR. It’s a mud hole… It’s a brutal, horrible place.

fleiter on June 11, 2008 at 3:56 PM

Your right it is a mud hole.. but they call it a flood plain.

Would anyone be willing to write in Sarah Palin for President?

upinak on June 11, 2008 at 4:41 PM

I’ll still give me my vote but plan on keeping up with the screaming and hollering. – Limey

Roger that. We’ll hold his feet to the fire, not like the libs who defend EVERYTHING their guy does, no matter how bad. Just ask your lib friends about Klinton selling ICBM target aquisition technology to Red China.

Tony737 on June 11, 2008 at 4:41 PM

Big S:

Projected production rates have a tendency to be wrong. Besides even if it doesn’t make a dent, we would be drilling and using our own oil.

Let me put it simply: even using the most optimistic production rates for ANWR oil, the 20 million bpd consumption rate (which is likely to increase) presents a huge obstacle that no reasonable amount of oil from ANWR will cover. We will still have to get a huge chunk of our oil from overseas, from producers who can manage supply to influence prices. Furthermore, many who engage in this debate act as if ANWR oil would be essentially “free” because we wouldn’t have to buy it from producers in other countries. This is obviously wrong; the costs for production would be significant. The idea that it’s “our oil” is not significant for determining the cost of gasoline or other petroleum products; the only real difference is the percentage of the cost that we pay that is given to overseas producers or domestic producers.

Big S on June 11, 2008 at 4:42 PM

And if there was oil in the Grand Canyon, you set up the drill rig a mile from the rim, drill (at an angle) and then place a 10 to 20 foot tall walking beam pump on it. From a mile away, you would barely see it. After the drill rig leaves, an oil well is not that obtrusive.

MTinMN on June 11, 2008 at 4:43 PM

Rbastid on June 11, 2008 at 4:38 PM

there are no trees on the North Slope… The only tree there was ran over by a drunk Inuit Native, and it was on a 6 x 6 foot area and called a national Forest…. I am not joking.

upinak on June 11, 2008 at 4:43 PM

I’m becoming more and more convinced that Saudi Arabia is the true power player in US politics. They bought our politicians with the money we paid them for oil. We seem strangely unwilling to compete with them for the insanely lucrative oil market. Take the craziest anti-semitic rant about Israel’s pernicious influence on US foreign policy, replace “Israel” with “Saudi Arabia,” and I’ll sign my name to it.

boko fittleworth on June 11, 2008 at 4:14 PM

ech. I wish I could tell you to stop sounding so damn crazy…but I fear there is something to your comment.

I thought the oil companies were not interested in the oil shale in the west because if they sunk all the development money into it the Sauds could just open the taps, drop oil prices to $50 a barrel again, and screw all the competition…but then I read that Shell had put lots of work into oil shale and it was democrats who stopped the development.

So Shell is interested in developing US oil supplies, but our politicians (mostly democrats) are stopping them.

The China thing really pisses me off….the PRC’s govt owned oil company making the profits that US oil companies could/should make if our politicians got the hell out of the way…..

funky chicken on June 11, 2008 at 4:44 PM

Therefore as President, I am issuing an Executive Order returning ANWR to the great state of Alaska. – Dom

… thus creating thousands of jobs, hard jobs, that make OUR lives easy.

Tony737 on June 11, 2008 at 4:44 PM

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