Canada deports cancer patient to save costs

posted at 10:20 am on June 10, 2008 by Ed Morrissey

When people tell you how much more humane government-run health care is, ask them to explain the case of Juana Tejada in Canada. Tejada came to Canada as part of the government’s attempt to attract foreigners to fill roles as live-in caregivers, apparently to help the Canadians to save some money on wages. When Tejada herself became sick with cancer a few years after her arrival, suddenly the Canadians didn’t find her valuable enough to treat (via QandO):

Juana Tejada wants to stay – and die – in Canada.

A live-in caregiver from the Philippines, the terminally ill cancer patient will be forced to leave when her work permit expires in two months, even though her period of service here as a nanny was supposed to be the gateway to permanent residency.

Tejada has twice been denied a chance to stay, however, because her illness puts a burden on the health-care system. …

The 38-year-old came to Canada in 2003 under the federal live-in caregiver program, which grants permanent resident status to domestic workers after they complete their three-year assignments and obtain the necessary medical and criminal-record clearances.

Her cancer was found in 2006, during an exam for her immigration application. Tejada appealed to immigration officials to waive the good-health requirement for humanitarian reasons.

“While I am sympathetic to your situation, I am not satisfied that these circumstances justify granting an exemption,” a case processing officer in Alberta wrote in the latest decision. “In the opinion of a medical officer, this health condition might reasonably be expected to cause excessive demand on health and social services.”

Got that? They wanted Juana to come to Canada so she could serve Canadians who needed home health care. When Juana got sick, the same health care service for which she worked couldn’t be bothered to foot the bill for her treatments. Juana worked and paid into that system for three years before they discovered that she would “cause excessive demand” for her treatment.

Now, let’s imagine that a private health insurer pulled that kind of stunt. It would make headlines, and political candidates across the spectrum would start including Juana as the victim of the corporate, profit-centered mentality of the American health care system. Except, of course, it doesn’t happen. Insurers can’t kick people off their rolls for getting cancer after their coverage starts, and the US government doesn’t deport legal immigrants for dying before they’ve serviced enough Americans to make them worthwhile.

Government-run health care rations treatment.  It sets limits and conditions on access to health care, and generates irrational solutions such as this.  And only the power of the government could have resulted in the deportation of a low-wage recruit into that system because she needed the very services she supported.


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Socilized medicine at its finest.

madmonkphotog on June 10, 2008 at 10:22 AM

Who needs healthcare anyway? the Obamamessiah will heal us all, he promised. oh, and the earth too.

/idiot voter

jp on June 10, 2008 at 10:22 AM

Where is Mike Moore now?

TroubledMonkey on June 10, 2008 at 10:23 AM

The government knows whats best for everyone, you, madame, should go back to the philipines and die.

Lunkinator on June 10, 2008 at 10:25 AM

Really, why are people not committed who claim that putting all of our health care decisions in the hands of the government is a good thing? What other clinical evidence does one need to demonstrate mental retardation?

NotCoach on June 10, 2008 at 10:26 AM

Where is Mike Moore now?

TroubledMonkey on June 10, 2008 at 10:23 AM

He called in sicko.

Kafir on June 10, 2008 at 10:27 AM

“Free” Canadian health care is a scam. I still had to pay for all the drugs the doctors prescribed me (well, sort of, I had private insurance as well which reduced 80% of the obscene costs, but if I hadn’t…)

Darth Executor on June 10, 2008 at 10:27 AM

ouch, this is sad.

trailortrash on June 10, 2008 at 10:30 AM

Government-run health care rations treatment. It sets limits and conditions on access to health care, and generates irrational solutions such as this. And only the power of the government could have resulted in the deportation of a low-wage recruit into that system because she needed the very services she supported.

That is a wonderfully succinct and correct point. And it applies to all government health care.

That said the private option hardly any better – it is rationed according to the ability to pay. The best treatments are not available to all.

What you have is a choice between the lesser of two evils, and private care is usually that but it is hardly all sweetness and light unless you are seriously monied.

Ares on June 10, 2008 at 10:35 AM

Where is Mike Moore now?

TroubledMonkey on June 10, 2008 at 10:23 AM

Sitting beside his BFF Ted Kennedy.

Dr.Cwac.Cwac on June 10, 2008 at 10:39 AM

What exactly is the problem here? Good health was a requirement for her coming to Canada and getting the job. I wish we could impose a “good health” requirement on all the immigrants we allow to come here. If we don’t, they cost us money!

Lehuster on June 10, 2008 at 10:39 AM

Ring Ring! Hello! Calling Obamessiah, it’s for you, it’s the clue phone!

4shoes on June 10, 2008 at 10:39 AM

Barry could not be reached for comment.

Dr.Cwac.Cwac on June 10, 2008 at 10:39 AM

Where is Geraldo when you need him?

maynila on June 10, 2008 at 10:40 AM

Lehuster on June 10, 2008 at 10:39 AMLehuster on June 10, 2008 at 10:39 AM

Racist.

/sarc

Dr.Cwac.Cwac on June 10, 2008 at 10:40 AM

Heh heh! Good timing Dr.CwacCwac!

4shoes on June 10, 2008 at 10:40 AM

4shoes on June 10, 2008 at 10:40 AM

I know. We’re good like that!

Dr.Cwac.Cwac on June 10, 2008 at 10:42 AM

Shouldn’t be inviting in people who they don’t plan to take care of.

Just as we shouldn’t be allowing in people (illegal aliens) who we do not want to take care of.

Suicidal largesse.

profitsbeard on June 10, 2008 at 10:48 AM

With Obama as Pres., there will no longer be illness or pain.

Skipper50 on June 10, 2008 at 10:48 AM

Hey, let’s vote for Barry, so we can have this stuff happen here as well.

Think_b4_speaking on June 10, 2008 at 10:50 AM

Socialist health care is the worst. How bad? Canadians are coming over to the USA to get treatment.

jdun on June 10, 2008 at 10:50 AM

Tejada has twice been denied a chance to stay, however, because her illness puts a burden on the health-care system

And soon enough, everyone who’s (terminal) illness puts a burden on the health care system will be given the option of 1) not receiving care or 2) taking a pill that’ll quicken passage into the next life. Just say no to nazionalized health care.

rbj on June 10, 2008 at 10:53 AM

TroubledMonkey on June 10, 2008 at 10:23 AM

Buying her an airplane ticket to Cuba.

joeswampy on June 10, 2008 at 10:54 AM

Hey everybody, it won’t matter. President Obama will start take cues for his health care plan from “Logan’s Run”.

Dr.Cwac.Cwac on June 10, 2008 at 10:55 AM

That said the private option hardly any better – it is rationed according to the ability to pay. The best treatments are not available to all.

Ares on June 10, 2008 at 10:35 AM

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Yes, but so are mansions, Ferraris, and most other goods. Fairness is in the eye of the beholder, but the free market is impartial to anything but the transactional costs/benefits, and therefore the best option.

Think_b4_speaking on June 10, 2008 at 10:55 AM

The rqm’t that she be in good health should have been met and accepted prior to her arrival, or upon arrival. If she wasn’t, she should have been sent home. Canadian taxpayers owe no one but Canadians anything.

But five years after the fact is a disgrace and a sin.

JiangxiDad on June 10, 2008 at 10:57 AM

Socialist health care is the worst. How bad? Canadians are coming over to the USA to get treatment.

jdun on June 10, 2008 at 10:50 AM

It’s not just Canadians. I work with a Swede who says that Swedes routinely go to Poland for dental treatments (out of pocket). The US has been treating foreign dignitaries for years.

Dr.Cwac.Cwac on June 10, 2008 at 10:58 AM

JiangxiDad on June 10, 2008 at 10:57 AM

It appears she was in good health when she originally came to Canada for the employment. It was not until her health screening for permanent residency (after the 3 year work requirement) was the cancer discovered.

Dr.Cwac.Cwac on June 10, 2008 at 10:59 AM

I work with a Swede who says that Swedes routinely go to Poland for dental treatments (out of pocket).

Border state residents use Mexico for their dental work. Others take dental vacations in Costa Rica. They’ve got a well developed dental-vacation industry down there.

JiangxiDad on June 10, 2008 at 10:59 AM

The government knows whats best for everyone, you, madame, should go back to the philipines and die.

Lunkinator on June 10, 2008 at 10:25 AM

Nah, this is Canadian Health Care…she’d probably die in line before they got around to treating her. That way they can look like ‘good guys’ and still not have to pay.

James on June 10, 2008 at 11:02 AM

rbj: you nailed it! If you are over a certain age, you get no help with transplants or any other expensive care. However, here in the states, our prisoners get transplants, even murderers. That’s not right either. You can wait years for an operation and I guess they hope they won’t have to operate, because you will probably be dead.
But the young people especially will vote for an empty suit because of government schools and especially government universities.

Bambi on June 10, 2008 at 11:03 AM

more evidence that when the people are dependent on the government, it only brings horrible results.

RMC1618 on June 10, 2008 at 11:03 AM

And so if we fall for the government run health insurance scan, just where will people come for good treatment?

Mommynator on June 10, 2008 at 11:03 AM

I’d be surprised if Canadian officials went to the Philippines looking for care givers to move to Canada to take Mexican wages. Unless of course you want to make Canada look responsible because they went there and invited her personally.

BL@KBIRD on June 10, 2008 at 11:11 AM

Americas fear of Canada’s health care system makes me laugh and realize the power of economic interests to bamboozle. Where I live we have a constant influx of Americans with false medicare cards seeking treatment because they have no coverage in the States.

BL@KBIRD on June 10, 2008 at 11:19 AM

This might give Pelosi-Reid the thought to send all sick Americans on “vacation.”

drjohn on June 10, 2008 at 11:19 AM

Do you think this will stop Canadians from lecturing America?

Having spent years in Canada, and almost emigrating in 2001, I was amazed to hear my friends talk about how the US had 9/11 coming, as we sat in a pub sipping our beers and watching a tense competition of hurling. I’ve not gone back since

Typical Liberal exercise of do what I say and not what I do.

Hening on June 10, 2008 at 11:26 AM

If America deported all those who sneaked in with Third World diseases, this country would’ve reduced its population by at least 20 million and healthcare cost would’ve been affordable for those who deserve it.

Indy Conservative on June 10, 2008 at 11:30 AM

To be fair, the ‘good health’ requirement is applied to ALL who apply for permanent residence in Canada and his condition is stated in public documents. Universal health care started in the early 70s but the health requirement for residence status predates it. It would be fair to question the requirement itself but it was not created because of Universal health care.

Annar on June 10, 2008 at 11:35 AM

cor:his condition –> this condition

Annar on June 10, 2008 at 11:36 AM

Where I live we have a constant influx of Americans with false medicare cards seeking treatment because they have no coverage in the States.

BL@KBIRD on June 10, 2008 at 11:19 AM

Links, data, stats, hello?

geckomon on June 10, 2008 at 11:37 AM

Need. To. Pick. Jaw. From. Floor.

newton on June 10, 2008 at 11:52 AM

Yes, but look on the bright side. She can get gay married and smoke pot!

Defense Guy on June 10, 2008 at 11:59 AM

This is very cruel, but this is exactly what is to be expected from a government run healthcare system.

Socialized medicine is pure collectivism, its the stuff the old Soviet Union and communist China is made of. It spreads misery equally and that’s all its good for. Such a system is anathema to individual rights, and individual rights are totally destroyed under such a system. You become a slave to the collective, but more accurately you become a slave to the elitist in power. And you have no say in the matter anymore, you have no recourse if your rights are denied, you gave that all up for “free healthcare” even though your tax bill will double whether you use the system or not.

Whenever the government takes over private sector business the results are always awful. Look at our public schools as the perfect example. Do you think public schools are free? Trust me, a huge amount of your tax bill goes to pay for public schools whether you have any children in them or not. Even if your children are in private schools you STILL MUST PAY for the scandalous, incompetent and dangerous public school system.

You can expect the same scandalous, incompetent and dangerous result from socialized medicine, except this time your very life will be threatened by government incompetence rather than just having to suffer with uneducated kids.

Maxx on June 10, 2008 at 12:15 PM

“Give me your poor, your tired, your huddled masses.”

Cold hearted government is saddening.

America should take them but it’s hard to fit it in without seeming like amnesty. It wouldn’t be the same because she came to Canada following the rules. She could come to the U.S. following the rules to her death bed.

shick on June 10, 2008 at 12:19 PM

I’m reminded of Animal Farm where the once strong work horse is sent to the glue factory by the profitting government.

shick on June 10, 2008 at 12:20 PM

I’m reminded of Animal Farm where the once strong work horse is sent sold to the glue factory by the profitting gluttonous government pigs.

shick on June 10, 2008 at 12:20 PM

Now it’s accurate.

shick on June 10, 2008 at 12:27 PM

It’s typical of healthcare in Canada. When our governments start feeling the pinch, they cut. Usually, they “de-list” services, ie., now you gotta pay for it yourself (taxes don’t count, of course), like some optometry, dentistry, and ‘elective’ surgery now. Or, like our not-missed NDP (socialist) government in Ontario, they decide to choke the demand by cutting med school entries, thus creating our current (desperate) shortage of family physicians. Hey, no doctors means no patients means savings! It can’t fail!

SeoulMan on June 10, 2008 at 12:36 PM

Just another example of failed socialisim.

TomLawler on June 10, 2008 at 12:44 PM

I remember an hgtv show on selling real estate where the Canadian woman was selling her house to fund care for her autistic son. He was diagnosed at 3 and put on the waiting list and was t/4 eligible for treatment until age 7. However, she knew that he would age-out before he got treatment, due to massive numbers of people ahead of her, so she was selling her house to pay for private treatment.

Yes, all health care is rationed; in the US we give it to people who people who plan ahead and insure for expenses. (And some for illegals, too, but that’s another story.)

Here’s another glorious rationing story from England: Woman Denied Pap Smear Now Dying

PattyJ on June 10, 2008 at 12:54 PM

But you’ll all be happy to know that while chiropractic and optometry visits were “de-listed”, the Ontario Human Rights Commission decided that the provincial government (ie me and anyone else who has paid taxes in the province) must pay for sexual “reassignment” surgery.

SCORE!

SeoulMan on June 10, 2008 at 12:59 PM

She should have entered Canda illegally. Then it would have been racist to deport her. Isn’t that how it works?

redzap on June 10, 2008 at 1:33 PM

SCORE!

SeoulMan on June 10, 2008 at 12:59 PM

Sorry to here about that. You are probably familiar with this bit of news as well: Government to pastor: Renounce your faith!

We’ll soon feel your pain as that story will soon be playing in theaters near us.

shick on June 10, 2008 at 1:38 PM

shick – a better explanation of what our HRCs can do (can order) comes from Ezra Levant, being hauled before the kangaroo courts for daring to publish the Mo-toons in Canada:

http://ezralevant.com/2008/06/what-could-mark-steyns-punishm.html

I don’t want to say this is why I’m SeoulMan and not, say, TorontoMan, but add our crushing taxes, our imploding healthcare system (best in the world, you stupid neo-con Americans!), and our complete disregard for hundreds of years of common law at the hands of extra-judicial Star Chambers, and you’ll see why I’m not eager to return any time soon.

SeoulMan on June 10, 2008 at 2:11 PM

You will soon learn – you do not question the State. What the State decides is to be accepted. When you have chosen to have the State serve you, you will, also, serve the State. They go hand-in-hand.

Do not question the State. The State is never wrong. Soon, you will learn. Yes, very soon.

OhEssYouCowboys on June 10, 2008 at 2:12 PM

SeoulMan,

You won’t be alone forever my friend. Foolishness spreads like the plague.

shick on June 10, 2008 at 3:17 PM

doesn’t deport legal immigrants for dying before they’ve serviced enough Americans to make them worthwhile

-Ed

Cap’n Ed, one services a car, one serves people, one only services people in a sexual sense, and a Clintonian one at that. Seeing as how Canada is screwing this immigrant, perhaps this was a double-entendre?

Maquis on June 10, 2008 at 5:55 PM

It gets even more disgusting.

Does anyone remember the Khadr case? When young Al Qaeda terrorist Khadr, who’d been paralyzed in combat with US forces in Af-stan, was re-admitted to Canada after release from Guantanamo, he was supposedly ineligible for Canadian public health care, for a minimum 6 months wait period, due to his having been out of Canada for years (including a lot of time in Pakistan and Af-stan BEFORE capture by US Special Forces. During this time, young Khadr was with Popa Khadr and older brothers, actively involved in Al Qaeda. Osama bin Ladin actually attended an older Khadr brother’s wedding in Af-stan).

Despite these Canadian health service regulations, young Khadr was IMMEDIATELY admitted to an orthopedic specialist hospital in Toronto for anticipated multiple surgeries, all at public expense. Too bad for Juana Tejada that she’s not a Muslim woman and an Al Qaeda terrorist

DavePa on June 10, 2008 at 6:03 PM

Now, let’s imagine that a private health insurer pulled that kind of stunt. It would make headlines, and political candidates across the spectrum would start including Juana as the victim of the corporate, profit-centered mentality of the American health care system. Except, of course, it doesn’t happen. Insurers can’t kick people off their rolls for getting cancer after their coverage starts, and the US government doesn’t deport legal immigrants for dying before they’ve serviced enough Americans to make them worthwhile.

The sad thing is that government run health care also eliminates the freedom you have to take your business somewhere else! You can’t leave when a company does crap like this so they have no incentive other then cutting costs and they don’t care how they do it!
David

LifeTrek on June 10, 2008 at 6:41 PM

But…. But I thought socialism was suppose to help the poor.

Maxx on June 10, 2008 at 11:08 PM