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Bob Beckel: Obama is the Democrats’ Reagan

posted at 1:15 pm on June 10, 2008 by Allahpundit
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Every electoral parallel you could ever want and more! It’s been circulating as a subtext of Obamania since January, when the Chosen One himself famously broached the subject and got mostly grief for it from liberals too blinkered by knee-jerk Reagan-hate to recognize a killer meme when they hear one. Beckel’s is the first sustained treatment I’ve seen, although it pops up from time to time in conservative tributes to Obama’s rhetorical skills. Sunny, eloquent, yet very much the ideologue: Strong medicine in a sugar coating. No wonder Peggy Noonan has a soft spot for him. In fact, it’s the unspoken Reagan parallel which I think lies at the root of the messianism that surrounds Obama. It’s not that he’s a “Lightworker,” it’s that he’s the uniquely charismatic pol perfectly positioned to capitalize on public antipathy to the ruling order and nudge the country onto a different ideological track. He’s come from the sky to finish off the conservative movement, just like Reagan finished off the Great Society. (Which helps explain why McCain’s jab about Obama running for Carter’s second term is so effective. It undercuts the parallel. Barry can’t be Reagan if he’s the guy Reagan beat.) Needless to say, this is also why Krauthammer and I were pulling for Hillary in the primary. Obama’s right that the policy differences between him and her are “infinitesimal,” the gap between them in terms of Reagan potential is enormous. Hillary could have done a lot of damage in office but she was never going to paint the map blue. This guy might, for a bit. Why Obamicans like Doug Kmiec who retain most of their conservative leanings but want a change from Bush-style Republican governance would therefore prefer him to her escapes me.

He probably won’t be winning any Reagan-type landslides (to George Will’s and Pat Buchanan’s chagrin?), if that’s any comfort, but then he doesn’t have to worry as Reagan did about battling a Congress led by the other party. Exit question: How significant will Obama’s handling of Iran be to whether he can turn a victory in November into a sustainable movement? All of the heroes of 20th century liberalism — FDR, JFK, LBJ — were muscular on foreign policy; how are centrists going to climb on board for Great Society II if Iran somehow ends up with the bomb on Obama’s watch? “Blame Bush” ain’t going to cut it.


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Bob Beckel: Obama is the Democrats’ Anti-Reagan

I had to be done.

TheBigOldDog on June 10, 2008 at 1:18 PM

KP really spun this one. Especially on McCain’s reference to Obama being a 2nd term Carter. “He’s not even relevant. He was President 30 years ago!” Of course he’s relevant. He’s galloping around meeting with our enemies. Just like Obama will. Windfall profit tax – ditto.

KP may be a cutie, but she’s not convincing as an Obama supporter.

Connie on June 10, 2008 at 1:21 PM

In light of the VP search stumble, it’s not the best day for BB to compare Obama’s rhetorical skills and charisma to The Gipper, wouldn’t you say?

aunursa on June 10, 2008 at 1:22 PM

So will this get the Reagan Democrats to fall in line??? Ignore what he says, just listen to how he says it (when he has a teleprompter in front of him of course).

HawaiiLwyr on June 10, 2008 at 1:23 PM

Obama is the Democrats’ Reagan

Blaspheme!

cntrlfrk on June 10, 2008 at 1:23 PM

Reagan was good unscripted, was old and wise and experienced.

Obama is none of those things. The only thing obama has going for him other than personality and bush/gop hatred is the Media is in the tank for him and will cover alot of his shortcomings up.

jp on June 10, 2008 at 1:24 PM

Beckel: Republicans have even dragged Obama’s wife Michelle into the fight.

The Republicans have forced Michelle to speak at campaign events on behalf of her husband’s candidacy?

aunursa on June 10, 2008 at 1:26 PM

All of the heroes of 20th century liberalism — FDR, JFK, LBJ — were muscular on foreign policy; how are centrists going to climb on board for Great Society II if Iran somehow ends up with the bomb on Obama’s watch? “Blame Bush” ain’t going to cut it.

That’s the thing. The presidents that usually go down in our history books are actually did change our foreign policy. However, modern Democrats (not just Obama) seem to be obsessed with being liked by everyone. How can you really change things when all you are attempting to do is to be liked around the world? Does any one believe that after the popular cheerleaders in their high school went out and “changed the world” after they graduated?

terryannonline on June 10, 2008 at 1:27 PM

jp on June 10, 2008 at 1:24 PM

Beckel really did that one tongue-in-cheek. Reagan was REAL. Obama is a figment of the left’s imagination.

Connie on June 10, 2008 at 1:28 PM

the amount of damage Obama with a huge dem congress could do in 4 years could reverse all the gains Reagan made for us since he won.

A scary thought, what if Obama got in there and governed moderate left(like Clinton)….didn’t go too far on Global Warming, average on Foreign Policy and didn’t let the left get away with too much domestic stuff at once??? second term, if he could pull it off. otherwise, there should be some sort of big backlash against him and the Dems. Especially if they are stupid enough to put in place price controls again on Gas and all the other tax hikes. thus making our lives miserable.

under GOP pres., the press makes the public feel miserable with negative reporting, bias and lies…

under a Leftist pres., they do the misery work themselves.

jp on June 10, 2008 at 1:29 PM

How significant will Obama’s handling of Iran be to whether he can turn a victory in November into a sustainable movement?

how are centrists going to climb on board for Great Society II if Iran somehow ends up with the bomb on Obama’s watch? “Blame Bush” ain’t going to cut it.

Israel will likely take some options away from Obama.

JiangxiDad on June 10, 2008 at 1:30 PM

beckels been unberable on tv, all he says to anything is that its basically impossible for the Dems and Obama to lose and makes it sound like we should just skip the election.

jp on June 10, 2008 at 1:31 PM

Does that mean democrats are gay if they like him?

lorien1973 on June 10, 2008 at 1:32 PM

If he were really the Democrats’ Reagan, we’d be reading stories about how dumb he is.

VolMagic on June 10, 2008 at 1:33 PM

jp on June 10, 2008 at 1:31 PM

While off camera hes slamming things around and yelling things like, “it’s over! They didn’t effin’ vet him [Obama],” etc.

TheBigOldDog on June 10, 2008 at 1:34 PM

… it pops up from time to time in conservative tributes to Obama’s rhetorical skills.

Is that with or without his teleprompter?

It’s not that he’s a “Lightworker,”…

… it’s that he’s a light weight!

Tony737 on June 10, 2008 at 1:34 PM

Obama:

mi·rage (m-räzh)
n.
1. An optical phenomenon that creates the illusion of water, often with inverted reflections of distant objects, and results from distortion of light by alternate layers of hot and cool air. Also called fata morgana.
2. Something illusory or insubstantial.
[French, from mirer, to look at, from Latin mrr, to wonder at, from mrus, wonderful; see smei- in Indo-European roots.]

Noun 1. mirage – an optical illusion in which atmospheric refraction by a layer of hot air distorts or inverts reflections of distant objects
fata morgana – a mirage in the Strait of Messina (attributed to the Arthurian sorcerer Morgan le Fay)
optical illusion – an optical phenomenon that results in a false or deceptive visual impression
2. mirage – something illusory and unattainable
misconception – an incorrect conception

Connie on June 10, 2008 at 1:34 PM

If he were really the Democrats’ Reagan, we’d be reading stories about how dumb he is.

VolMagic on June 10, 2008 at 1:33 PM

i’m available to write such columns if anyone in the MSM is reading.

jp on June 10, 2008 at 1:35 PM

Well Reagan wasn’t a Marxist, so it’s good to know who Democrat Socialists worship, Comrade Obama. As far as being Reagan, as old and dumb as the drive-by media said Reagan was, I never once saw him speak in the vacuous, stumbling around manner as Comrade Obama has done recently.

tarpon on June 10, 2008 at 1:36 PM

“Blame Bush” may not cut it to rational human beings, but it will not stop the left wing from trying it for any problems in an Obama administration. With a cult of personality like this, those people can never believe Obama does wrong… problems have to be either distractions or the work of others.

Wineaholic on June 10, 2008 at 1:37 PM

Bob Beckel?

THE Bob Beckel who was dry humping the Michelle “whitey” tape awhile back for the Clinton’s? Boy, it doesn’t take these people very long to grovel.

patrick neid on June 10, 2008 at 1:38 PM

In the late 80’s, Reagan went against his staffers and “pollsters” and said, unequivocally, “Mr. Gorbachev, open this gate. Mr. Gorbachev, tear down this wall!”

Obama would never do anything remotely as ballsy. He will hide and change with the winds, as he always has. He will cave on everything and stand for nothing; it’s his party’s way.

If he were really the Democrats’ Reagan, we’d be reading stories about how dumb he is.

VolMagic on June 10, 2008 at 1:33 PM

Cute, but we (implicitly) have. His claim to fame is “community organizer.” How much more in depth do we have to go? (And, on top of that, Reagan wasn’t dumb; they were just trying to convince people he was. This time, the eloquent but bumbling fool really is just a bumbling fool.)

emailnuevo on June 10, 2008 at 1:38 PM

Why anyone even puts Bob Schmuckel on the air is beyond me!

Dread Pirate Roberts VI on June 10, 2008 at 1:39 PM

I think we should encourage the Dems to believe this.

Darn it! I can’t believe the Dems have their own Reagan now! How disheartening.

indythinker on June 10, 2008 at 1:40 PM

Obama isn’t even up to being the Democrats version of Dan Quayle.

Beckel is an idiot. He must be to forget what made Ronald Reagan great- he united a fractured country, gave them hope, and worked directly with the people as much as through Congress. Anybody really think the multi-racial puffball has the skills to do that after three years in national office?

highhopes on June 10, 2008 at 1:42 PM

Next, Bob Beckel tells us how he helped Jim Johnson run the worst presidential campaign of modern times and lose 49 states.

rockmom on June 10, 2008 at 1:43 PM

Isn’t that a demotion?

Reagan being a mere mortal….

Sir Napsalot on June 10, 2008 at 1:45 PM

how are centrists going to climb on board for Great Society II if Iran somehow ends up with the bomb on Obama’s watch? “Blame Bush” ain’t going to cut it.

Obama will tell them, Israel has Nukes, America has nukes…

It’s only fair they we let them have nukes as well.. LOL

Chakra Hammer on June 10, 2008 at 1:45 PM

It’s a valid comparison in that he’s shown that he’s almost as teflon as the big R is thus far. Who else sails effortlessly past “God Damn America” in a continual video loop with nary a blip?

Dash on June 10, 2008 at 1:46 PM

Reagan hod more experience then Obamaturd.

Chakra Hammer on June 10, 2008 at 1:46 PM

Still waitin’ on that shoe to drop.

http://hotair.com/archives/2008/06/03/bob-beckel-and-the-mighty-big-shoe/

Brat on June 10, 2008 at 1:48 PM

The big difference is that Reagan had gonads, and Obama doesn’t. Well, maybe Obama’s wife does…but Barack is traveling light.

RBMN on June 10, 2008 at 1:49 PM

Ain’t.

Gonna.

Happen.

Obama is nowhere near as saavy as Reagan was. And while the country may not be as conservative as many of us would like, it sure as hell isn’t as radically left as Obama is.

I’ll also add that having a congress led by Harry and Nancy will be more of a detriment in the long term. While it might help him get more of his programs through in the shorter term, in the long run, he won’t be able to pin the inevitable failure of his leftist policies on congressional opposition.

thirteen28 on June 10, 2008 at 1:50 PM

Bob Beckel: Obama is the Democrats’ Reagan

Which means he is the antithesis of Reagan in reality. Reagan is to conservative as Obama/Marx/Lenin is to communism.

Dr.Cwac.Cwac on June 10, 2008 at 1:50 PM

Again the question about ‘community organizer’ on the resume.

Is it like organizing the ‘million man march’ kind of thing? What exactly is he organizing the community for?

Sir Napsalot on June 10, 2008 at 1:52 PM

First it was KENNEDY, now REAGAN??? I used to enjoy some of BECKEL’S views, but I do believe the butter has slipped off his MUFFIN!!!

pueblo1032 on June 10, 2008 at 1:54 PM

beckels been unberable on tv, all he says to anything is that its basically impossible for the Dems and Obama to lose and makes it sound like we should just skip the election.

jp on June 10, 2008 at 1:31 PM

I hope the Dims keep on saying that Obama is unbeatable. It can only help McCain (Americans love an underdog), and it will make it that much sweeter when the arrogant Obama gets his unqualified butt kicked in November.

AZCoyote on June 10, 2008 at 1:56 PM

What’s Bob been smoking?

4shoes on June 10, 2008 at 1:56 PM

Reagan was a man.
Not a petulant spoiled child.

bbz123 on June 10, 2008 at 1:57 PM

Obama’s handling of Iran

Not to remind people about this, but Reagan withdrew in haste from Lebanon, sold arms to Iran, and bribed Iranian terrorists to release hostages. No President has been particularly good in dealing with Iran, much to the delight of the mullahs. The difference here is that, in the 80s, we weren’t in Iraq and Afghanistan, and Iran wasn’t getting nuclear weapons technology (not to mention the differing situation in Lebanon). The stakes are higher now. And, appallingly, Obama seems no better or wiser than Carter on Iran, while McCain has more experience on the matter than Carter, Reagan, and Clinton put together. If we don’t learn from the 70s and 80s, we will be doomed to repeat them, and worse.

calbear on June 10, 2008 at 1:58 PM

Well truth be told, Obama does act like he has Alzheimer’s.

fogw on June 10, 2008 at 2:04 PM

Have another donut Bob.

Sugar Land on June 10, 2008 at 2:04 PM

It’s about Obama’s ability to inspire people. It’s how he makes them feel is what they like about him. Obama is not free from sin, but Spike Lee believes him to be, and acts positively based on his perception of Obama. It’s purely a personality cult. I think that Obama’s policies would in substance be extremely detrimental to America, but if Americans feel good about it, maybe that’s what matters…

AlexB on June 10, 2008 at 2:05 PM

Bob Beckel: Obama is the Democrats’ Reagan

I just threw up a little. Would someone please slap that tool with a rubber chicken.

Geronimo on June 10, 2008 at 2:06 PM

Bob Beckel reminds of a fat transsexual pig who lost his virginity to a midget.

Indy Conservative on June 10, 2008 at 2:07 PM

“Obama is such a good speaker.”

So…freakin’…what!

So are most actors. Most news anchors. Most motivational speakers. Many teachers, preachers, and politicians.

A politician is a good public speaker, and I’m supposed to wet myself over the excitement of it all?!?

A little over a week ago I gave a speech at a wedding. No teleprompter, no notes, no rehearsal…giving a speech that was never written down. I was half-drunk, fully stoned, and I nailed it. Ynot elect me President? I’m a good public speaker!

Or is it just latent racism…that the media is so ga-ga over Obama’s skills because they don’t expect a black man to be articulate? What other explanation is there?

ynot4tony2 on June 10, 2008 at 2:07 PM

The faster we can pair the most unpopular Congress in history with the most inexperienced candidate in history the sooner this will all be over. Hopefully the country will survive.

Chuck Schick on June 10, 2008 at 2:10 PM

I want to see the “lightworker” in a debate. He crumbles under hard unscripted questioning.

The more the press give him the Reagan mantle the more pissed conservatives are going to get, backlash baby.

Theworldisnotenough on June 10, 2008 at 2:11 PM

Wrong Bob, the Obamination is the democrat’s Carter.

He may win one but the conservative tsunami will crush in 2010 and 2012.

jukin on June 10, 2008 at 2:11 PM

A little over a week ago I gave a speech at a wedding. No teleprompter, no notes, no rehearsal…giving a speech that was never written down. I was half-drunk, fully stoned, and I nailed it. Ynot elect me President? I’m a good public speaker!

Wow. I dont throw the word “hero” around alot these days…

Chuck Schick on June 10, 2008 at 2:11 PM

Reagan built a political and governing coalition that has lasted for 25 years. Obama has a thin coalition of upscale, afffluent liberals, blacks, and college students. He may get some of the “Hillary vote” in November, but he does not have their interests at heart and they will not be part of his governance if he is elected. He will not put together a governing coalition for the next 25 years. He will be more like Bill Clinton, selling a pig in a poke to get elected and then revealing himself to be a far-left radical once elected. He will be disastrous for the Democratic party.

rockmom on June 10, 2008 at 2:12 PM

calbear on June 10, 2008 at 1:58 PM

In fairness, Reagan has bigger fish bears to fry.

VolMagic on June 10, 2008 at 2:17 PM

Chuck Schick on June 10, 2008 at 2:11 PM

Wow. I dont throw the word “hero” around alot these days…

*rofl*

Don’t misunderstand. I wasn’t so much bragging on myself, as pointing out that a lot of people can give a good speech, as long as they know what they are talking about.

And even in that state, I’d still be better on foreign policy, immigration, and taxes than Obama. I still want/expect your vote.

ynot4tony2 on June 10, 2008 at 2:17 PM

This guy couldn’t hold Ronnie’s J-strap. Beckel should save those comments until after his man has proven himself. Until then it’s propaganda and bad propaganda at that. Let’s not forget that Beckel was part of the Carter administration… His judgment is forever in question.

Claypigeon on June 10, 2008 at 2:19 PM

The faster we can pair the most unpopular Congress in history with the most inexperienced candidate in history the sooner this will all be over. Hopefully the country will survive.
Chuck Schick on June 10, 2008 at 2:10 PM

Aye. There’s the rub.

techno_barbarian on June 10, 2008 at 2:20 PM

i say
VOTE THE HERO…
NOT THE 0!

max1 on June 10, 2008 at 2:25 PM

Correction: Obama is the Democrats’ Reagan-Wannabe

CP on June 10, 2008 at 2:27 PM

That makes two:

1 – Chris Matthews

2 – Bob Beckel

Now Fox News can’t brag of being number one.

And with the Owl Eyes’ Shepard Smith, it has joined the

‘Chronicles Of Morons: The Owl, The Fat Pig and The One-Legged Donkey.’

Indy Conservative on June 10, 2008 at 2:28 PM

Beckel should save those comments until after his man has proven himself.

Good point. Perhaps, this type of adulation would suffice if the guy had actually served his first term in the Oval Office and did a good job. But till then it’s premature.

Hey, I will give credit where credit is do. If Obama gets in and happens to be a good president, I will certainly not be a partisan and deny it. But let’s first get to the part where he actually does stuff.

terryannonline on June 10, 2008 at 2:31 PM

That makes two:

1 – Chris Chrissy Matthews

Indy Conservative on June 10, 2008 at 2:28 PM

There. That’s better…

eanax on June 10, 2008 at 2:36 PM

Reagan was actually a Governor — the executive position in state government. It’s the best training ground for the Presidency.

Way too much glad-handing and buddy-buddy crap in the Senate.

eanax on June 10, 2008 at 2:40 PM

Yet again, Allah pretty much acts as if it’s January 09 and we’ve already swore in President Obama.

And yet again, I begin to question why I keep visiting this site since it’s nothing but hysterical-to-the-point-of-caricature doom-and-gloom from him at this point.

Vyce on June 10, 2008 at 2:41 PM

Bob Beckel is so lucky to have found a job, which allows him to lie, and lose arguments on cable news. I’m not sure where else he would find the resources to maintain his girth, but I don’t think carnies make as much as he gets paid and him with a straw hat selling three balls for a dollar is most likely his back up plan.

Hening on June 10, 2008 at 2:46 PM

And Bob Beckel is the Democrats’ Fat Bastard.

blatantblue on June 10, 2008 at 2:48 PM

Vyce on June 10, 2008 at 2:41 PM

Would you like some cheese with that whine?

Hening on June 10, 2008 at 2:46 PM

I am still loling so hard at your comment

blatantblue on June 10, 2008 at 2:50 PM

wtf i cant use the quote properly. IM OUTTA HERE ! -_-

blatantblue on June 10, 2008 at 2:50 PM

Allah — What sort of electoral coalition did Reagan create?

A: Traditional Conservatives + blue collar Democrats, aka “Reagan Democrats.”

Do you seriously think that Obama can get any of these “Reagan Democrats?” With Farrakhan, Wright, Ayers, Pfleger, and doubtless more embarrassing people and videos to come?

When the race was over, people went out of their way to vote against Obama in the primaries. They’re already in the habit of voting against him. McCain is a RINO Patriot.

Simply put, Obama’s “Lightworker” fantasies believes that College Kids + Blacks + Yuppies = victory. While those demos are prized by marketers and advertisers, they are not the biggest demos and traditionally produce losers (Carter 1980, Mondale, Dukakis). Obama is not Kerry, or Gore, offering some sort of middle/working class pander. He’s totally the creation of Blacks/Yuppies and offers racial resentment plus save the polar bears.

Example: Gas at $4 + a gallon, he wants more taxes instead of immediate relief at the pump. He’s not even interested in basic pocketbook issues for the middle/working class.

Reagan had long experience pandering to middle/working class voters as Governor, Obama is the South Side Chicago Farrakhan-machine candidate.

whiskey_199 on June 10, 2008 at 3:08 PM

Does anyone else reading this blog get weary of the words, “Gulp” and “Dude?”

Spurius Ligustinus on June 10, 2008 at 3:09 PM

If by that phrase Beckel means that Obama is the embodiment of the Demcocrat/Left/Liberal (unconstrained) vision like Reagan was the embodiment of the Republican/Right/Conservative (constrained) vision of government, then, yes, Obama is the Dem Reagan.

/Sowell

baldilocks on June 10, 2008 at 3:09 PM

If by that phrase Beckel means that Obama is the embodiment of the Demcocrat/Left/Liberal (unconstrained) vision like Reagan was the embodiment of the Republican/Right/Conservative (constrained) vision of government, then, yes, Obama is the Dem Reagan.

/Sowell

baldilocks on June 10, 2008 at 3:09 PM

It only took 30 or comments to get there, but certainly this is what Beckel meant.

BigD on June 10, 2008 at 3:18 PM

And I would add to baldilocks’ comments that he is an effective communicator, as was Reagan. As was Bill Clinton.

Good communication = Votes.

This is what the McCain people don’t want to acknowledge.

BigD on June 10, 2008 at 3:25 PM

“Son, you are not the Gipper, not even close” – - Ronald Reagan

Entelechy on June 10, 2008 at 3:33 PM

To bad we can’t have the Real Reagan version for the Republican nominee for president Bobby. O well I have to wait for 2012 until Bobby wins the Republican Nominee and kick butt in November of 2012.

BroncosRock on June 10, 2008 at 3:35 PM

Beckel’s gotta be back on the shit.

LtE126 on June 10, 2008 at 3:36 PM

Bob Beckel: Obama is the Democrats’ Reagan

LegendHasIt: Bob Beckel is the Idiots’ Moron

I never could understand the respect that a lot of conservatives have espoused for Beckel. He has less grasp of reality than say, Susan Estridge, and a personality that makes Geraldo Rivera seem downright stable and likable by comparison.

LegendHasIt on June 10, 2008 at 3:47 PM

Yeah…Ron Reagan.

bard on June 10, 2008 at 3:48 PM

I can see his point if you look at it this way.

Reagan is compared as the model Conservative, who was an honest and a deeply religious man, he was someone you like and trust to do what he says he’ll do and he’ll do anything to protect America from our enemies.

Obama, is the model liberal who can’t be trusted and uses religion as a way to an end, he’s not someone you can trust and he’ll sell out America if it suits his purpose.

ToddonCapeCod on June 10, 2008 at 3:50 PM

I was half-drunk, fully stoned, and I nailed it. Ynot elect me President?

I bet no one noticed.

JiangxiDad on June 10, 2008 at 4:00 PM

Reagan was REAL. Obama is a figment of the left’s imagination.

Connie on June 10, 2008 at 1:28 PM

That’s right. Reagan was The REAL DEAL. Everyone else is a cheap imitation – even Obama.

newton on June 10, 2008 at 4:43 PM

“Blame Bush” ain’t going to cut it.

Of course it will, they`ll always use it.

From the year 2525: Protoype hyperspace drive starship explodes, officals blame Bush`s illegal Iraq war for draining much needed resources.

ThePrez on June 10, 2008 at 4:43 PM

Here’s why Beckel is dead wrong:

From the very, absolute beginning, Ronald Reagan told the American people just exactly who he was, and what he believed in. The rise of his movement was not about him; it was about his ideas. Add to that the unfortunate-for-the-left fact that Reagan’s ideas actually resonate with the core beliefs of Americans, and they work.

The idea that Reagan ran on a message of “change” for the sake of change is absurd. Reagan ran on a very specific set of ideas and proposals.

Obama is purely and simply and only a cult of personality.

But we don’t do that here. We get a little leery of men who seem to want to forget they’re mortal.

Want precedents? When’s the last time this country, feeling ill-at-ease in the world, handed over the Presidency to the more dovish candidate?

Never.

The only time since 1976 we’ve as a country trusted the Democrats with the White House was when we though history was over and we didn’t have to worry about messy nettlesome details like protecting ourselves.

No, sorry Bob. This isn’t 1980 all over again. You’re off by eight years. This is 1972 all over again. The Left has its champion and its all giddy about it; the Republicans have a nominee who has all the charisma of a tree stump. But there’s too much on the line, so the folks in Ohio and Michigan and Pennsylvania and Missouri who will decide this will stick with the stump, and Barry can peddle off into the sunset.

Typhoon on June 10, 2008 at 4:58 PM

It only took 30 or comments to get there, but certainly this is what Beckel meant.

BigD on June 10, 2008 at 3:18 PM

Hey, thanks. I wouldn’t have figured that Out had I not read Sowell’s A Conflict of Visions: Idealogical Origins of Political Struggles, however.

Folks, Beckel’s not saying that Obama is like Reagan in substance. He’s saying that Obama is to Left ideology what Reagan was to Right ideology.

baldilocks on June 10, 2008 at 5:00 PM

Obama is the Democrats’ Reagan

Everyone knows that The Gipper’s tride and true name is good for votes…am still waiting for a true Reaganaut to throw their hat in the ring…Col North are you listening???

ocbrat on June 10, 2008 at 5:08 PM

Folks, Beckel’s not saying that Obama is like Reagan in substance. He’s saying that Obama is to Left ideology what Reagan was to Right ideology.

baldilocks on June 10, 2008 at 5:00 PM

Believe it or not, I think most people understand.

The point is that while that may be so, there are a few things he left out. Like while it’s no doubt true, Barry’s keeping it a secret. Reagan ran not as an agent of amorphous “change” but as a champion of strength, individual liberty, and personal freedom. People like those things. Taxes, regulation, and your elite betters deciding on high how you should live your life and making you take it, not so much.

Yeah, the Left knows what Obama is, and they love him for Uncle Jerry and his buddy Bill all the more. But to suggest that Reagan really had the depth and breadth of far-right lifelong associations that Barry does with Marxists is laughable.

Beckel makes his point. What he overlooks is that Reagan didn’t have to hide his ideas to make his case. Barry does.

Typhoon on June 10, 2008 at 5:11 PM

ocbrat on June 10, 2008 at 5:08 PM

My general rule is to never trust anyone who cant write a good novel with a ghostwriter.

Ollie is out.

Squid Shark on June 10, 2008 at 5:19 PM

Believe it or not, I think most people understand.

Other than your comment, this is not in evidence.

baldilocks on June 10, 2008 at 5:26 PM

I take that back, at least the part about your comments:

Reagan ran not as an agent of amorphous “change” but as a champion of strength, individual liberty, and personal freedom. People like those things.

Conservative people like these things, which is why Reagan was their perfect representative.

Taxes, regulation, and your elite betters deciding on high how you should live your life and making you take it, not so much.

Liberal/Leftists do like these things, which is why Obama is the perfect representative of their values.

baldilocks on June 10, 2008 at 5:32 PM

Beckel makes his point. What he overlooks is that Reagan didn’t have to hide his ideas to make his case. Barry does.

Typhoon on June 10, 2008 at 5:11 PM

Barry’s not hiding his ideas. The people who accept him have been indoctrinated into to believing that “his” ideas make sense. Barry’s just the manifestation of that indoctrination.

baldilocks on June 10, 2008 at 5:35 PM

Barry’s not hiding his ideas.

But of course he is. If he wasn’t, he would have stood up way back when he started running and allowed as how black liberation theology is a good thing. If he was, he’d allow as how Bill Ayers is really a standup guy and his wife is a sharp cookie too.

If he was, when he speaks about “hope” and “change” he’d say just exactly what he intends to do, and how he intends to do it.

He isn’t. Because he can’t. Because his message might sell in France, but it won’t sell here. That’s the point Beckel’s missing and you seem to be missing too. Most of the people in the US don’t really consider themselves liberal or conservative, but they’re in fact way to the right of Barry.

The more he has to show of himself, the worse he’s going to fare. And proof is that is his finish among Democrats.

Typhoon on June 10, 2008 at 6:09 PM

I was half-drunk, fully stoned, and I nailed it. Ynot elect me President?

I bet no one noticed.

JiangxiDad on June 10, 2008 at 4:00 PM

I’m certain any judgemental jackasses were probably too dim to notice. Clever people might have picked up on it, though.

ynot4tony2 on June 10, 2008 at 6:54 PM

Pfft. More like Jim Callaghan if you ask me.

aengus on June 10, 2008 at 7:02 PM

But of course he is. If he wasn’t, he would have stood up way back when he started running and allowed as how black liberation theology is a good thing

Is someone stopping you from looking up this info? I found out what it was in two second flat and who its founder, James Cone, is. Checked one of his books out of the library and am about to go pick up another. Several other people did this also. Sean Hannity and lots of others were doing this last year. Wright’s DVDs have been on sale to the public for years.

The point is that he is not hiding. All too many are in denial about what’s right in front of their eyes, however.

baldilocks on June 10, 2008 at 7:42 PM

Barry’s just the manifestation of that indoctrination.

baldilocks on June 10, 2008 at 5:35 PM

Exactly. Heck, I wouldn’t be surprised if some of his followers believed that the USA started WWII, that’s how far gone they are.

Zorro on June 10, 2008 at 9:14 PM

Just guess Obombem could not convince those in Camelot that he was the reincarnation of JFK.

Proof that Demoncrates are syncopates who will try anything to get what they want which is control of your money so they can give it to those who do not deserve it-themselves.

Also, none of the them can ride a horse like Reagan, unless it is the breed in front of the grocery store that eats quarters before it moves.

MSGTAS on June 11, 2008 at 10:24 AM

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