A little housecleaning at Obama’s Fact Check site?

posted at 12:50 pm on June 10, 2008 by Ed Morrissey

While I did a little research on another topic, I noticed an unheralded change at Barack Obama’s website. His “Fact Check” page has a section missing from it — a section dealing with his relationship with William Ayers and Bernadine Dohrn. Until recently, the site insisted that the two unrepentant domestic terrorists were now “respectable fixtures of the mainstream in Chicago,” and that their violent and radical past was no longer relevant:

This entire section no longer appears on the website. Instead, the Obama campaign apparently relies on a description of Ayers as mainstream from Mayor Richard Daley rather than assert that themselves:

Ayers Advised Chicago Mayor Richard Daley On School Reform Issues. Bill “Ayers is now mainstream — an educator with distinguished professor status. He has written three books about education and has advised Chicago Mayor Richard M. Daley on the subject of school reform.” [AP, 10/14/01]

So then the question is whether Barack Obama has himself retreated from the previous statements of his own campaign as to whether William Ayers is a “mainstream” figure. Or maybe this is an example of change we can believe in?


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They’re going to need a bigger memory hole.

JammieWearingFool on June 10, 2008 at 12:52 PM

Oceania has never been at war with Eurasia.

OhEssYouCowboys on June 10, 2008 at 12:56 PM

They’re going to need a bigger memory hole.

JammieWearingFool on June 10, 2008 at 12:52 PM

HA HA HA…. nice Stalin/Jaws combo!

max1 on June 10, 2008 at 12:56 PM

Thankfully, I printed that whole section out. Anyone want copies?

JamesLee on June 10, 2008 at 12:57 PM

It’s nice to know that all those Soviet era air-brushers have finally found new employment.

rbj on June 10, 2008 at 12:58 PM

max1 on June 10, 2008 at 12:56 PM

He wishes he were Stalin. Stalin had those who he deemed dangerous executed, their images scrubbed from any public photos that may have existed and text books rewritten so that the persons in question never existed.

NotCoach on June 10, 2008 at 12:59 PM

Better start screen capping and documenting all these significant changes.

Looks like Rev. Wright’s comments on how Barack will say and do what politicians do are proving true.

danking70 on June 10, 2008 at 1:02 PM

I’m going to start citing myself on my blog now. Hey, if The Messiah can do it…

ynot4tony2 on June 10, 2008 at 1:03 PM

¡Viva El Evolution!

geckomon on June 10, 2008 at 1:03 PM

If you notice on this fact check page some of the sources they use to discredit information are The Huffington Post and Center for American Progress. My goodness if you going to be president and want to have accurate and neutral information, I wouldn’t go to those places for help.

terryannonline on June 10, 2008 at 1:06 PM

WTF is anyone who can accurately be described as an “unrepentant bomber” doing walking free, let alone hobknobbing with a presidential candidate? Shouldn’t this guy be in a cell next Eric Robert Rudolph?

trubble on June 10, 2008 at 1:06 PM

Too bad the vast majority of the sheeple will not get exposed to the amazing research skills of the contributers to this fine website.

HawaiiLwyr on June 10, 2008 at 1:08 PM

Also, I would like to add the link to the Center for American Progress site is about the surge. That’s no small topic you want to source to the Center for American Progress. You want reputable sources there.

terryannonline on June 10, 2008 at 1:09 PM

Details, details, this clearly isn’t helping Omarosa’s children.

Obama lives in an alternate universe, like Superman’s Bizarro world; in BarakO-world the truth is whathe says it is regardless of what history proves otherwise.

Alden Pyle on June 10, 2008 at 1:09 PM

I think the comparison to Stalin is a bit strained since Barack never studied for the priesthood and hasn’t yet claimed to have been Russian Orthodox. Otherwise they are too similiar. Gives an even more aura to the nebulous promises of change.

snaggletoothie on June 10, 2008 at 1:09 PM

Voting for Obama results in being reformed. It’s kind of like being saved. Just believing in Obama, and doing works to get him elected leads to being reformed.

I wonder which precinct they’ll have Charles Manson run once he is reformed?

Hening on June 10, 2008 at 1:10 PM

“Eastasia” – dammit.

OhEssYouCowboys on June 10, 2008 at 1:10 PM

Two words: “Continued association.”

Merovign on June 10, 2008 at 1:11 PM

WTF is anyone who can accurately be described as an “unrepentant bomber” doing walking free,

Teaching at an overpriced American college.

Hening on June 10, 2008 at 1:11 PM

Meanwhile, not a single patriot arises from the Democrat ranks to express concern about Bambi’s associates.

T J Green on June 10, 2008 at 1:15 PM

Speaking of 1984 – there is a quote that is perfect for the Obamamasses:

“Parsons was Winston’s fellow employee at the Ministry of Truth. He was a fattish but active man of paralyzing stupidity, a mass of imbecile enthusiasms—one of those completely unquestioning, devoted drudges on whom, more even than on the thought police, the stability of the Party depended.”

OhEssYouCowboys on June 10, 2008 at 1:16 PM

If he is doing this during the campaign, imagine what BHO can sweep under the carpet when he becomes President!

Aren’t these type of actions EXACTLY what the dhimmis complain about when it pertains to the Bush administration? Lies, coverups, deception, spin, selective memory, etc. ?

I guess it depends if you have a D or R after your name.

Timothy S. Carlson on June 10, 2008 at 1:16 PM

1984 baby!

Mojave Mark on June 10, 2008 at 1:16 PM

We are living in the world of Winston Smith here. Revisionism followed by angry tirades from the Obama people that the previous comments were never made, the previous video never existed, and Obama was never around when anti-American/racist comments were being made by his dear pastor!

highhopes on June 10, 2008 at 1:17 PM

Obama: Change You Can’t Even Find Google Cached

Beto Ochoa on June 10, 2008 at 1:18 PM

Change you can just keep changing!

MayBee on June 10, 2008 at 1:19 PM

Obama: Change You Can’t Even Find Google Cached

Beto Ochoa on June 10, 2008 at 1:18 PM

Change that is completely subject to change.

OhEssYouCowboys on June 10, 2008 at 1:19 PM

Obama: Change You Can’t Even Find Google Cached

Do the Google boys support Obama?
His web history seems….slim.

MayBee on June 10, 2008 at 1:20 PM

Some more appropriate 1984 jewels:

“If the Party could thrust its hand into the past and say this or that even, it never happened—that, surely, was more terrifying than mere torture and death.”

“And if all others accepted the lie which the Party imposed—if all records told the same tale—then the lie passed into history and became truth. ‘Who controls the past’ ran the Party slogan, ‘controls the future: who controls the present controls the past.’”

“Day by day and almost minute by minute the past was brought up to date. In this way every prediction made by the Party could be shown by documentary evidence to have been correct; nor was any item of news, or any expression of opinion, which conflicted with the needs of the moment, ever allowed to remain on record. All history was a palimpsest, scraped clean and reinscribed exactly as often as was necessary.”

OhEssYouCowboys on June 10, 2008 at 1:25 PM

Teaching at an overpriced American college.

Hening on June 10, 2008 at 1:11 PM

Well, I guess they’re all overpriced. But he teaches at the University of Illinois Chicago campus, a weak, ugly step-sister of the University in Champaign. It is not a respected school, and Ayers is just a scummier version of the usual leftists in academia.

There is no way for Obambi to defend this scumbag, so he is trying to remove him to the memory hole, as noted above. It won’t work – Ayers is going to be tied like a rock to Obama’s pencil neck.

Jaibones on June 10, 2008 at 1:32 PM

For Alexander Cockburn to say that Ayers is mainstream is a little like the proverbial kettle/pot.

themistocles on June 10, 2008 at 1:34 PM

Or maybe this is an example of change we can believe in?

Well, I believe it.

Wish I didn’t have to, but…I believe it’s only the beginning of what he’ll do to get elected POTUS. It served a purpose getting him to where he is…the votes of those who also see Ayers/Dohrn mainstream. Now he’s pandering to a different, broader demographic, and they have got to go.

Believe it, baby.

Bob's Kid on June 10, 2008 at 1:35 PM

Ayers is mainstream, but no longer respectable. Nuance.

Is this mainstream on top of Niagara Falls?

Steve Z on June 10, 2008 at 1:42 PM

Hmm..and still no mention of the Chicago Annenburg Challenge Fund and his being the chairman of the board

And no mention of Ayers going to Venezuela to speak against
the evil capitalist eduacation systems

He may not want to talk about it..but come sept. or oct..I will!!!

galtg on June 10, 2008 at 1:48 PM

There is no way for Obambi to defend this scumbag, so he is trying to remove him to the memory hole, as noted above. It won’t work – Ayers is going to be tied like a rock to Obama’s pencil neck.

Jaibones on June 10, 2008 at 1:32 PM

Ya know, as more and more of this info goes down the memory hole, I’m beginning to see the significance of Comrade Obambi’s campaign logo.

techno_barbarian on June 10, 2008 at 1:49 PM

That’s not the Obama Fact Check website I know.

Lehosh on June 10, 2008 at 2:02 PM

Do the Google boys support Obama?

Big libs. I wouldn’t be surprised if they are aiding & abetting the scrubdown.

LimeyGeek on June 10, 2008 at 2:03 PM

Ya know, as more and more of this info goes down the memory hole, I’m beginning to see the significance of Comrade Obambi’s campaign logo.

techno_barbarian on June 10, 2008 at 1:49 PM

Huh…I thought it was The Ring.

James on June 10, 2008 at 2:04 PM

He wishes he were Stalin.

Don’t say that. Just please don’t say that.

NeighborhoodCatLady on June 10, 2008 at 2:14 PM

techno_barbarian on June 10, 2008 at 1:49 PM

Would that be “Change You Can Believe In”?

Jaibones on June 10, 2008 at 2:20 PM

Would that be “Change You Can Believe In”?

Jaibones on June 10, 2008 at 2:20 PM

Heh. Actually, I prefer “Hopeiate Of The Masses“. ;o)

techno_barbarian on June 10, 2008 at 2:25 PM

Obama Turned Eight In August 1969, The Days Of Rage Occurred In October 1969. Barack Obama was born on August 4, 1961. He turned eight on August 4, 1969. The Days of Rage, in which William Ayers participated, occurred in October 1969. [Obama Birth Certificate, UPI, 10/21/81]

That’s an interesting date on the UPI citation. The Rockland County Brinks robbery in which a guard and two policemen were shot to death took place the day before: October 20, 1981. Dohrn was implicated in that, but refused to testify before a Grand Jury and served seven months in a Manhattan federal jail as a result. The UPI article they’re referencing was probably about that robbery, since the Weathermen were the prime suspects. Many of them, including Ayers and Dohrn, lived in the Columbia U. area at the time, and Ayers and Dohrn wound up adopting Chesa Boudin, then the infant son of Cathy Boudin and David Gilbert, who were convicted and jailed for the crime.

Oh, and Obama also lived there at the time; he moved into an apartment near Columbia in August 1981.

Small world, isn’t it?

Nichevo on June 10, 2008 at 2:26 PM

That photo always gets my blood up.

carbon_footprint on June 10, 2008 at 2:35 PM

C’mon now, facts don’t mean anything to Obamaniacs.

Distort or erase or mislead when it comes to facts seems to be the modus operandi for the Left. It’s in their political DNA. I expect nothing less.

eanax on June 10, 2008 at 2:46 PM

Please use Ayers “snotty rich kid rebel” mug pics more often. Has no patriot at least punched him in the face in all these years? Seems an injustice somehow.

BL@KBIRD on June 10, 2008 at 2:52 PM

Obama…Morphing we can believe in.

franksalterego on June 10, 2008 at 3:58 PM

Obama: “This isn’t the fact check page I knew…”

Captain Scarlet on June 10, 2008 at 3:59 PM

Obama: Change you can airbrush.

Maquis on June 10, 2008 at 6:18 PM

Obama is gaslighting us.

TexasDan on June 10, 2008 at 11:16 PM

Ayers Advised Chicago Mayor Richard Daley On School Reform Issues. Bill “Ayers is now mainstream — an educator with distinguished professor status. He has written three books about education and has advised Chicago Mayor Richard M. Daley on the subject of school reform.” [AP, 10/14/01]

So that makes Ayers’ bombing of public buildings ok then. All is forgiven because he’s managed to indoctrinate kids to his communist ways. Typical liberal thinking. Phooey on him and Obama too.

abcurtis on June 11, 2008 at 7:45 AM

Has no patriot at least punched him in the face in all these years? Seems an injustice somehow.

BL@KBIRD on June 10, 2008 at 2:52 PM

You can bet the coward Ayers has deliberately stayed a good distance from people who might pop him.

abcurtis on June 11, 2008 at 7:47 AM