Gloria in excelsis Deo; Update: $30 per month for 3G, says AT&T; Update: The backlash begins!
posted at 3:30 pm on June 9, 2008 by Allahpundit
3G, GPS, industry-leading battery life, tons of new apps, and at exactly one-third the price of the first model. It’ll even handle WordPress, according to Gizmodo. You’re advised to follow the last link and cruise through their liveblog (especially for info on the battery) since Apple’s page is getting slammed right now, but if you want to brave the traffic click the image below.
Minor disappointment: No video chat, as had been rumored.
Update: I haven’t seen it explicitly stated that it’ll support Flash, but Gizmodo notes a special iPhone page that debuted today from Major League Baseball featuring updated video highlights from games, so I’m guessing yes.
Update: Per Dvice, AT&T says 3G will run you $30/month. Note: That’s in addition to the phone plan. I have the cheapest package for the iPhone, with $20/month Edge connectivity, and it costs about $70/month all told.
Update: Is that all there is, Gizmodo readers wonder. My brother called a little while ago to complain along the same lines — no camera improvement, no video recording, no MMS, even. Yeah, it’s 3G, and yeah, it has GPS, but that’s it. It’s really more iPhone v1.5 than 2.0. Which I guess explains the price break: They’re worried that people who dropped $600 on the first iPhone won’t be ready to drop another $600 so soon if they tricked out the new model, so they decided to go halfway, cut the price way down to make it irresistible to suckers like me, and then next year they’ll roll out another upgraded model with the extra trimmings, again at a lower-than-expected price.
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to be featured soon by the messiah himself, Obama, on the campaign trail.
jp on June 9, 2008 at 3:34 PM
Are they still going to have the contract with ATT, or are we still going to have to crack it to get a decent provider?
MadisonConservative on June 9, 2008 at 3:34 PM
You’re on your own now. Us animists are headed for the bunker.
Limerick on June 9, 2008 at 3:35 PM
From the fine print on the page: “Requires new 2-year AT&T rate plan, sold separately.”
Allahpundit on June 9, 2008 at 3:37 PM
So when is Apple shipping out the rebate checks for purchasers of overpriced 1st Gen iPhones?
IntheNet on June 9, 2008 at 3:40 PM
One-third the cost?!
OMG, I’m going to get one, as soon as the stampede is over, that is.
PattyJ on June 9, 2008 at 3:42 PM
As if Apple couldn’t have picked a worse network. AT&T? Are they even still around?
wccawa on June 9, 2008 at 3:43 PM
Ugh.
Still happy with my Razr, then.
MadisonConservative on June 9, 2008 at 3:46 PM
On the Network: Verizon turned them down, a decision they probably regret.
All the networks in the US suck, pretty much. Whether it’s AT&T or Verizon or Sprint…. each suck royally.
I just wish they were all available everywhere.
Perhaps an iPod touch… shouldn’t that be updated soon?
Vanceone on June 9, 2008 at 3:47 PM
Hopefully they’ll still send out updates for the iPhone V1.0. I got mine in November (a gift!) and have been waiting, with growing impatience, for the promised firmware updates that would make a sweet phone even sweeter.
CarpeCanis on June 9, 2008 at 3:48 PM
” industry-leading battery life”
But do you still have to buy a new one when it stops charging?
Meh. It’s still a piece of jewelry.
slug on June 9, 2008 at 3:48 PM
Actually, I’m very happy with Verizon. Good quality, very few dead spots, high speed broadband, no dropped calls or sessions, prices aren’t that bad…
and that’s even out here in the boonies!
wccawa on June 9, 2008 at 3:49 PM
Actually, the AT&T network isn’t bad at all. I’ve been on 3G for a while, and it is available pretty much everywhere.
DaveS on June 9, 2008 at 3:49 PM
Probably just after those purchasers start taking responsibility for their own foolish spending choices…
steadyrock on June 9, 2008 at 3:49 PM
CarpeCanis: iPhone software version 2–with all the Exchange goodness, etc.–is coming for all existing iPhones.
The new handset has the GPS and other minor improvements, but your current iPhone will get all the new email stuff.
Should be out in July!
Vanceone on June 9, 2008 at 3:51 PM
Can anyone tell me what AT&T charges per month for iPhone service? I can justify the initial purchase, but will need to convince the missus on the monthly outlay. (insert whip-crack sound effect here)
Exurban Jon on June 9, 2008 at 3:53 PM
no cigar
LimeyGeek on June 9, 2008 at 3:54 PM
I have to say – ONLY AN AMERICAN company could be as cool as APPLE.
God bless the USA
jake-the-goose on June 9, 2008 at 3:54 PM
We’ve been talking about switching from Sprint to AT&T so we may have to break down and get one of these. I’ve seen a lot of people ragging on At&t, what is the “prefered” network? BTW we mostly use in Texas and NM (remote areas). Opinions?
Aggie85 on June 9, 2008 at 3:54 PM
Obama strikes me as the perfect Apple candidate. Their marketing fits his proprietary, pseudo hip, fist bumping image pretty well.
Limited applications is just a bonus.
Hening on June 9, 2008 at 3:57 PM
I never go to Gizmodo sites ever since the infamous clicker follies where they went around with one of those universal TV off devices at a trade show messing up demos.
shirgall on June 9, 2008 at 3:58 PM
ONLY AN AMERICAN company could be as cool as APPLE
IntheNet on June 9, 2008 at 4:00 PM
AT&T had several plans available.
I’m not sure what any new plans are, but here were the old ones. Remember, data transfer is the biggest..
There is a range from $59.99 to $119.99, depending on your minutes. All had unlimited data transfer. For the 60 buck one it had 450 minutes and 5000 text messages. The 119 plan had unlimited minutes. 79.99 and 99.99 had 900 and 1350 minutes respectively. It also had rollover minutes, mobile to mobile, etc.
I’m not sure what new plans, if any, will be.
Vanceone on June 9, 2008 at 4:00 PM
I can’t wait to get one. I’ve been waiting long enough.
jencab on June 9, 2008 at 4:06 PM
Yes, AllahPagan worships his Device while looking askance at those who worship more Substantive Things
In Hell, AllahP, you won’t be able to call anyone……….
Janos Hunyadi on June 9, 2008 at 4:08 PM
“Glory to God in the highest”? Has the iPhone finally convinced you that there is a God, AP?
Beo on June 9, 2008 at 4:10 PM
If you already have an existing AT&T contract, then you just need to add the data plan. A couple of months ago with the old iphone, unlimited data was an extra $20 a month. Who knows how that will change with the new one.
Darksean on June 9, 2008 at 4:11 PM
Vanceone & Darksean, thanks for the AT&T info.
Exurban Jon on June 9, 2008 at 4:12 PM
AP, no where in your report did I get the impression MM was to SPRING for this much sought after TREASURE… What’s the DEALLIO????
pueblo1032 on June 9, 2008 at 4:13 PM
Hopefully an upgrade for us first gen iphone users will come to light. It is a wonderful device!!
Any thoughts on some unannounced features that could still come… such as video recording off of the camera, native chat apps ect…
billjackson on June 9, 2008 at 4:18 PM
GAAAAAAAAAAH!!!!
I just re-upped my AT&T contract!!!
GAAAAAAAAAAHHHH!!! Two MORE years without an iPhone!
GAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHH!!
It’s only a minor compulsion. I can fight it if I want to…
ChePibe on June 9, 2008 at 4:20 PM
Aw, just crack it. Half the world’s doing it.
(I’ve heard that AT&T has great service in some regions. This isn’t one of them either.)
Tanya on June 9, 2008 at 4:23 PM
From the fine print on the page: “Requires new 2-year AT&T rate plan, sold separately.”
Since when has AT&T had a 3G network?
I R A Darth Aggie on June 9, 2008 at 4:25 PM
I use T-Mobile in south Texas and I rarely have dead spots, even fishing in the bays. My husband’s AT&T is really spotty. My blackberry is our “back up” for when we are out and about.
pullingmyhairout on June 9, 2008 at 4:26 PM
Bucking for that raise, are you now?
Dr.Cwac.Cwac on June 9, 2008 at 4:28 PM
As did I. I found the HTC Tilt available as a refurb for zero out of pocket. I’m actually pretty happy with it although it’s a bit thick and battery life is terrible.
photom on June 9, 2008 at 4:34 PM
Allah and other iPhone users
how is the signal strength? I bought Motorola Z3 phone awhile back and it sucks when signal is weak (like in my house) my backup phone which is a cheap Nokia pulls in signal much better.
What good is a cool phone when it doesn’t get enough signal to receive calls etc? (ps this is not about diferent providers, here in Mex it’s basically all Carlos Slim Telcell, but my Noklia always has better signal.
windansea on June 9, 2008 at 4:35 PM
Just sold my 4GB on ebay for more than I payed for it, guess there are some suckers left in the world. Now I have to use a GoPhone for a month and then fight in a battle of epic porportions at my local Apple store to get this little gem. Not looking forward to that.
So Allah, sell your phone on ebay, I’m making money on this deal! Ah Capitalism.
Meric1837 on June 9, 2008 at 4:40 PM
Ugh, that’s all I need – another leash. If I’m gonna buy a toy, it’ll be a Harley or an awesome power tool.
RMCS_USN on June 9, 2008 at 4:40 PM
i heard this loud rumbling today
word on CNN is that it was a massive nerd orgasm
blatantblue on June 9, 2008 at 4:53 PM
idk if im gonna go for the new iphone. i still have the first one, wtf.
thats the problem with tech. in one day, out the other
blatantblue on June 9, 2008 at 4:53 PM
I have a question for all the iPhone users here. What’s the point of paying for/using SMS text messaging when you have access to both instant messaging and e-mail? Why pay for that useless feature for a reason other than AT&T making you?
malan89 on June 9, 2008 at 4:56 PM
I would be careful if I were you. A lot of times the people that buy items for more than they’re worth (like this guy that bought a $50 Target gift card for $55) are some sort of scam artist. Probably of the Nigerian flavor.
malan89 on June 9, 2008 at 4:59 PM
It still doesn’t have any Flash support, and is unlikely ever to have it. Flash is slow, and is not optimized for power-sipping mobile devices. The only need most people have for Flash is for online video, and Apple already has a special delivery mechanism through YouTube for industry-standard H.264 video. Doesn’t make any sense for Apple, in the catbird seat, to bend over backwards to add Flash support. They’re in Microsoft’s position now — Apple can dictate terms. And while Microsoft would jump on the opportunity to create a “new standard” (thus giving them control via licensing), Apple can continue to push the true industry standard.
Splashman on June 9, 2008 at 5:02 PM
Not worried, it’s already in the Paypal account.
Meric1837 on June 9, 2008 at 5:03 PM
I’m not an owner, but I can tell you that both the original iPhone and the new 3G iPhone do *not* have instant messaging. I have no idea why — hard to believe it could be a technical restriction. It could be that Apple agreed not to, so AT&T would have the SMS revenue stream.
But given that several different companies are working on Instant Messaging clients, for use with iPhone 2.0 software (available in July), I expect SMS usage to drop off precipitously.
Splashman on June 9, 2008 at 5:10 PM
I agree with Splashman re: Adobe Flash. The MLB video highlights could just be H.264. A lot of things that used to require Flash are doable with JavaScript and XMLHttpRequest (“AJAX” to the masses). Of course, now that there is a third party application “managed ecosystem,” we could see Flash support. But I really doubt third party applications can mess with the built-in browser, so it might have to be a standalone solution. The sooner proprietary things like Flash go away, the better.
Mark Jaquith on June 9, 2008 at 5:15 PM
iPhone/iPod Touch does not yet have instant messaging. But even after it does, I expect SMS to continue to be used. It’s ubiquitous. I can send a text message to my mom on her three-year-old generic brand flip phone.
Mark Jaquith on June 9, 2008 at 5:18 PM
Where have you been? They’ve had a 3G network for quite some time — it just wasn’t widespread enough for Apple to make use of it. In the last few months, they’ve been expanding (+80 cities) and upgrading the speed. Here’s a list of cities with 3G coverage.
Splashman on June 9, 2008 at 5:21 PM
This is a gorgeous phone for $200.
freevillage on June 9, 2008 at 5:23 PM
The Iphone is a fashion statement. That is it. Anyone who lays down a hundred a month for a cell phone plan is an idiot. I pay $30 a month, and get:
500 anytime minutes
Unlimited N&W
Unlimited Text
Unlimited MMS
Unlimited Mobile to Mobile
Unlimited Data
Also, I have a phone that has a FASTER data connection, 2 x faster to be exact, than the NEW iphone. My battery life is better, with replaceable batteries. Expandable storage as well, so not limited to any amount. GPS with navigation using any of a dozen different navigation software packages, including TomTom, Garmin, Iguidance, etc. The ability to tether with a laptop, or turn the phone into a wireless router with the push of a button, allowing dozens of computers to have wifi access sharing my EVDO Rev. A connection.
Yea, the Iphone is embarrassing it is so slacking on the features.
muyoso on June 9, 2008 at 5:25 PM
Nerd alert!
VolMagic on June 9, 2008 at 5:26 PM
I love my current IPhone as I do my other Apple products. I don’t see any great benefit here, however and think I will wait for the next generation. $30.00 per month to AT&T for essentially lousy service WiFi is NEVER EVER available here in Minneapolis sucks!
sabbott on June 9, 2008 at 5:35 PM
I’ll vote to the first presidential candidate that tells me having an IPhone is a right!!!1111!!!
jukin on June 9, 2008 at 5:42 PM
AT&T and Apple is a combo I am going to stay far, far away from. I don’t love Verizon, but they have good service where I live and the local store is pretty good.
Mooseman on June 9, 2008 at 5:43 PM
Yeah, no thanks.
Maddox is right, still.
nsfw language
SouthernDem on June 9, 2008 at 5:44 PM
Smokin’. What setup is that?
steadyrock on June 9, 2008 at 5:45 PM
muyoso, I thought that too. I laughed at friends who traded in their BlackBerry devices. Then I used one. It just works better. It didn’t matter that the connection was slower, it was a lot less stressful to navigate web sites, and in some cases the speed of the renderer made up for the lack of network speed. The responsiveness and stability of the OS blows any Palm/Windows Mobile/BlackBerry device out of the water. It’s a better media player than anything else out there. It has a better screen than anything else out there. And now it has GPS and third party software, which will fill a lot of gaps.
Sure, on paper, you can make a Windows Mobile monstrosity look like a superior device and a better value… but consider that you actually have to use the thing. It took me a while to see that… but it’s not about features, it’s about usable features. I haven’t seriously used my “better on paper” phone/PDA for months (it rarely leaves its charger), but I use an iPod Touch daily.
Mark Jaquith on June 9, 2008 at 5:46 PM
Ahh, give it a rest. Conservatives should be happy that at least some atheists aren’t part of the loony left.
/atheist out
SpencerFan on June 9, 2008 at 5:46 PM
Here’s what might be a dumb question: why do some cell phones have an echo and static, and some sound fine? Is it a function of expense? I would go totally wireless if I could find a cell phone with the quality of a land line.
PattyJ on June 9, 2008 at 5:52 PM
Aren’t there a few browser based IM services that work on the iPhone/iPod Touch? Meebo probably does. Either way, you’re right about the ability to send messages to other mobile devices using SMS, but I’d imagine that’ll soon be outdated once everybody is using a “smart phone”.
So would I.
malan89 on June 9, 2008 at 5:54 PM
Yeah, yeah. Anyone who’s followed Apple knows that the complaints are to be expected. iPods have had less “features” than the competition, ever since the first model, but people still buy them by the truckload. Detractors say that’s evidence that Apple fanboies will buy anything with the logo on it. Others (including me) say that’s evidence that people care less about feature count than real-world usability.
I’m not pretending the iPhone is the perfect device. I’m just saying that a lot of the missing features people scream about, aren’t as necessary as many bloggers and blog commenters claim they are. Steve Ballmer literally laughed off the 1st-gen iPhone, claiming it was too expensive and missing too many features. I doubt he’s laughing today.
Apple, in general, has been pretty good about determining what features most people really need, and focusing their efforts in the right direction.
Splashman on June 9, 2008 at 5:55 PM
Yup. It’s about usability. That’s the draw.
malan89 on June 9, 2008 at 5:56 PM
@ steadyrock on June 9, 2008 at 5:45 PM
Phone – 1 year old Sprint Mogul
Carrier – Sprint
Plan – SERO
Its the sprint employee referral plan, but ANYONE can get it. Its ridiculously awesome. Go to any sprint store, get one of their cards, then go here:
http://delivery.sprint.com/m/p/sprint/epc/epclanding.asp
Enter the email address from the card, order the phone and service online, get it in a few days, and you have RIDICULOUSLY cheap service with AWESOME features.
muyoso on June 9, 2008 at 5:58 PM
But wouldn’t he be correct to laugh? The first gen iPhone was on AT&T’s craptastic “EDGE” network and was 3 times the cost.
malan89 on June 9, 2008 at 6:00 PM
@ Mark Jaquith on June 9, 2008 at 5:46 PM
Can’t argue that the Iphone is easy to use, but it seriously has about half of what a real phone has. No MMS, no turn by turn GPS, no bluetooth streaming, no copy and freaking paste, etc. Those are things that I won’t live without. Thats not even getting into the RIDICULOUS things you can do with a windows mobile phone, like turn it into a wireless router and distribute its data connection to dozens of computers at the same time, at the push of a button, all for free. yeah, Iphone has a ways to go.
muyoso on June 9, 2008 at 6:01 PM
What I don’t get is this new subsidy. When I bought my iPhone I was forced to sign a 2yr contract with at&t. Yet, now people who buy the new iPhone are getting a subsidy? Makes no sense.
I love my iPhone, on my 3rd one though, it’s a finicky sucker. I have only had it 2 months. First one locked up two or three times a day, second one had weird white spots all over it, and bubbles in the glass. I got the 16GB model for 499.00.
I am getting married in September. I am wondering if there is an iPhone “family plan” then I could give my wife to be the old EDGE iPhone and I can bask in 3G/GPS/16GB white glory!!
James on June 9, 2008 at 6:02 PM
@ Splashman on June 9, 2008 at 5:55 PM
I find it that people who buy the iphones just claim that they dont need the features that arent included. I mean, copy and paste, really??? That is something so simple, that EVERYONE would use. And MMS? Free phones have that feature, and its ridiculously popular of a feature.
muyoso on June 9, 2008 at 6:04 PM
I need SMS because my monitoring and reporting systems send SMS messages to me.
James on June 9, 2008 at 6:06 PM
Wrong. iPhone will never be what you want it to be. Apple makes products for most people. You, sir, represent a small but vocal minority. Apple will never attempt to make products for you.
Wireless router? Yeah, there’s a mass-market feature.
Splashman on June 9, 2008 at 6:08 PM
I’ve heard about that SERO thing before. If Sprint’s coverage in Central PA wasn’t soooo horrible, I’d definitely do it. What a great deal! Anybody paying retail for a Sprint plan is a sucker!
malan89 on June 9, 2008 at 6:08 PM
You’re paying for a data plan…why not use it?
malan89 on June 9, 2008 at 6:09 PM
@ malan89 on June 9, 2008 at 6:08 PM
Yea, thats the ONLY thing. Sprint is a pretty crappy company, but in my area I am lucky and have very good coverage. The customer service is so horrible that its hilarious, so i try not to deal with them too often. But for the savings, its worth dealing with a few mongoloids on the telephone every now and then.
muyoso on June 9, 2008 at 6:10 PM
@ Splashman on June 9, 2008 at 6:08 PM
Believe me, I dont need a phone with ALL of those features, but there are some basic ones that are just so simple that they should be included.
MMS
Copy paste
ability to record video
a FLASH with the camera
etc.
muyoso on June 9, 2008 at 6:11 PM
I’m not claiming those features aren’t useful; I’m claiming they aren’t as necessary as some people claim them are. My evidence? Sales. Would someone buy and continue to use a device that lacked a feature that was truly necessary to them? Of course not. If most people are loving their iPhones (90%+ approval rating) even without Feature X, it’s safe to assume (a) they never had a need for that feature, or (b) they realized they didn’t need that feature as much as they thought they did, and the rest of the user experience makes up for the lack.
I have no idea why Apple hasn’t implemented copy-and-paste. Certainly not a technical limitation. I’m guessing they haven’t found a way to implement it with the touch-screen, in a way that most people will be able to easily learn. Of all the missing features, that one I find the most inexplicable.
Splashman on June 9, 2008 at 6:18 PM
Um . . . My point was that 99% of mass-market consumers have no need for a mobile wireless router; i.e., that’s a fringe market. Do you disagree?
Splashman on June 9, 2008 at 6:24 PM
Ok, I give up. What IS 3G and MMS?
Mr. Excitement on June 9, 2008 at 6:26 PM
I hear you. These days, those are relatively basic features, and again, I’m not claiming this is the perfect device. I wasn’t there when Jobs & Co. froze the feature list, so I can only guess as to why they made the choices they did. I think it’s safe to say they wouldn’t deliberate leave out a feature that most people desire, unless it required a compromise that most people wouldn’t stomach.
But I could be wrong. For the last ten+ years, Apple’s mice and keyboards have been awful, and I’ve never understood why. Maybe some of their iPhone-related decisions fall into that category.
Splashman on June 9, 2008 at 6:34 PM
They just don’t know that they need it… ;-)
MMS is the ability to send video and pics in a text message. Something other than just plain text. I don’t use it that often.
3G is just a faster network. The higher bandwidth allows for stuff like faster brousing, faster streaming of video, music, etc, and…the ability to make video calls (something the 2nd gen iPhone will be without).
malan89 on June 9, 2008 at 6:37 PM
Add the sh*t earbuds that come with iPods and iPhones to that list.
malan89 on June 9, 2008 at 6:38 PM
3G (3rd-generation) is basically faster data service — view web pages quicker, download e-mail quicker, etc.
MMS (Multimedia Messaging Service) is the 3G equivalent of SMS text messaging. With MMS, you can include pictures, sound, etc.
iPhone 3G doesn’t include MMS. But it won’t matter much; by July, when other companies start delivering instant-messaging apps for iPhone, you’ll be able to get the same functionality as MMS.
Splashman on June 9, 2008 at 6:40 PM
But I’m sure there are MANY people that do.
malan89 on June 9, 2008 at 6:41 PM
Yup.
malan89 on June 9, 2008 at 6:42 PM
Yup.
Splashman on June 9, 2008 at 6:49 PM
AllahPundit,
I just called AT&T. They just said the $30/month addition was false (and yes, I am a current iPhone user who will probably upgrade).
If you upgrade however, your contract will extend (by 2 years).
Darnell Clayton on June 9, 2008 at 6:55 PM
Zackly what I was thinking. Has anyone else besides me noticed how much AP is using religious language lately? At least once a day, it seems, he’s going “good lord” (sic) or “in the name of god” (sic) or (today in the Headlines) “Hallelujah” and “good lord.” Et cetera.
Not intending this as an insult to any atheists at all. Just pointing out that am not sure AP understands that it’s, well, beginning to get insulting to us believers hearing an atheist every aingle day calling on the name of God or invoking faith phrases repeatedly to make some headline point.
The phrases have more serious uses IOW and it’s disrespectful to keep using them that way, especially so frequently. Am pretty sure AP isn’t bigoted against believers so, whazzup wit dat?
inviolet on June 9, 2008 at 6:56 PM
No, its becasue the iphone is a one-trick-pony next to the other enterprise level phones in the market (and in its price range), so they tart it up generate buzz on the interbutts and only do half of what the device needed to bilk the iloyal out of even more cash. Why do you think you pay for OSX
service packsupgrades?That being said I might buy one if it will do SMTP with Exchange servers better then the old one…
liquidflorian on June 9, 2008 at 6:58 PM
Is this only because you’re a current customer? Will 3G still be $30 a month + normal plan for new customers? My guess is that you talked to a clueless CSR. The plan was just announced today, how would they know?
malan89 on June 9, 2008 at 7:13 PM
It’s amazing, isn’t it, how many people are willing to lay out large sums of money for one-trick ponies, when it’s so perfectly obvious that there are enterprise-level phones available in the same price range? And even more amazing is how no other company can figure out how to make these incredibly popular one-trick ponies. Must be the Kool-Aid, hmm?
Yep, that’s it. And that explains the Apple sheeple laying out cash for “service packs”, too. It’s simply not possible they consider additional features and faster performance to be worth paying for.
Gotta be the Kool-Aid. Plus the RDF. Gotta be.
Splashman on June 9, 2008 at 7:13 PM
I think it depends on the area you’re in.
I had Verizon and was fine with them (though I hated their customer service for most of the 4 years I was with them).
I switched to AT&T when I bought my iPhone (and because after one particularly nasty Verizon customer service experience I had sworn to leave Verizon as soon as my plan was up) and I had better coverage in my area (Santa Monica, CA). My coworker switched from Tmobile to AT&T and noticed the same.
On the other hand, in NYC, when I had verizon, I got much better coverage than my roommate that had AT&T.
I would find someone in your area that uses AT&T and ask them how their reception is (probably a few someones just to make sure you get a decent set of data)….
JadeNYU on June 9, 2008 at 7:33 PM
No, I just don’t like how apple does business. I would figure they would do their customers a solid by giving them more then just a pretty (really really pretty) package. I’ve always hated that about apple, its the most annoying thing about them (besides how iSmug the iLoyal can be :P)…
Think of it like this man… I’d rather have an evening with Liz Miles than Kelly Pickler. You know what I’m saying? For the money I’d rather have the Curve (or a Q, or blackjack II, or a HTC Tilt/wizard/ad nausium) and some gigs of media on cards then an iPhone at this point.
my $.02
liquidflorian on June 9, 2008 at 8:08 PM
I dunno, I just don’t see what the fuss is all about. Of course, I haven’t had a telephone of any kind for almost ten years – and I haven’t missed it at all.
Anyway, who needs all those features? It’s just something else to do instead of the important things – like keeping your eyes on the road and your hands on the steering wheel.
Rusty Bill on June 9, 2008 at 8:30 PM
Apple early adopters’ loyalty in the face of that kind of repeated abuse is admirable. Meanwhile I’ve had 3G on my Blackjack for a year.
It is a sweet phone at the new price point, gotta hand them that.
DrSteve on June 9, 2008 at 8:34 PM
For the price of an iPhone, I can buy an Asus Eee or MSI Wind and baggy pants with really big cargo pockets. I think I actually TALK on my phone a few minutes per month–it’s the constant texting. And damn I’m slow!
robblefarian on June 9, 2008 at 8:39 PM
No, I don’t.
malan89 on June 9, 2008 at 8:40 PM
Those things are awesome little machines.
Dude. That’s kinda sad.
malan89 on June 9, 2008 at 8:41 PM
but don’t worry the apple idiots will run out and buy this..
And when apple comes out with the next one they will but that too..
Soon as these people realize that apple sucks they will be better off.
Chakra Hammer on June 9, 2008 at 9:34 PM
I agree that Apple sucks in the computer department. Macs suck, plain and simple. But, if you live in an area with good AT&T coverage, the iPhone wouldn’t be a bad option.
malan89 on June 9, 2008 at 9:36 PM
Thanks for the info. I’m pretty sure service is good in Dallas but I’ve got to find people in West Tx/NM to see how it holds up out there. I’m really fed-up with Sprint (and I really want that phone!)
Aggie85 on June 9, 2008 at 10:09 PM
LOL. I am so glad I’m not a PC user anymore. PC’s are only good for those with extensive computer knowledge, who can truly proof their computer from the viruses that attack it.
Macs are fantastic because you can be a newbie with computers, and you can get right going. They are much more user friendly, better looking, crash less, and are just an all around more pleasant experience. Whenever I talk to a friend who just bought one, the first thing I hear is how they don’t have to deal with freezing or crashing anymore.
Syncing is better, looks, user interface, everything is much better than PC.
blatantblue on June 9, 2008 at 11:16 PM
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