Anglicans: British gov’t pays more attention to Islam than to us; British gov’t: Of course we do
posted at 8:40 pm on June 9, 2008 by Allahpundit
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Yeah, well, there’s attention and there’s attention. I want the feds “engaging” with both Islamic radicals and Christians, but when it comes to prioritization and, er, thoroughness, there’s no question who comes first.
It is “common sense” for Christianity to be sidelined at the expense of Islam, a Government minister claimed on Sunday…
She said it was right that more money and effort was spent on Islam than Christianity because of the threat from extremism and home-grown terrorism.
Ms Blears told BBC Radio 4’s Sunday programme: “That’s just common sense. If we’ve got an issue where we have to build resilience of young Muslim men and women to withstand an extremist message.”…
She added: “We live in a secular democracy. That’s a precious thing. We don’t live in a theocracy, but we’ve always accepted that hundreds of thousands of people are motivated by faith. We live in a secular democracy but we want to recognise the role of faith.”
The Church of England bishop responsible for the report, the Rt Rev Stephen Lowe, Bishop for Urban Life and Faith, said afterwards: “She said we live in a secular democracy. That comes as news to me – we have an established Church, but the Government can’t deal with Christianity.”
Touche. The inevitable reply is that this will create a perverse incentive for Christians to radicalize, but it won’t really, unless you think that getting the government’s attention is more important to believers than proper practice of Christianity. It’s like the good child who gets overlooked while its parents fret about the wayward sibling: Goodness will have to be its own reward.
Also at the link, the prime minister of Malaysia urges the Brits to be nice chaps and let Muslims live under shari’a. Remind me, which Christian sect’s leader was it who made the same suggestion earlier this year? Ah yes.
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No, I think this effect will only come into play in theory if the British government becomes unnecessarily abusive or hostile towards Christians.
doubleplusundead on June 9, 2008 at 8:55 PM
This is the same church that is having difficulties deciding if it’s OK to go into areas of UK with a thick Muslim population to evangelize. It would appear that threatening violence and strong arming the locals to spread Islam is top drawer, while continuing the Work Christ gave His church to brings souls to salvation just isn’t cricket, what!
Hening on June 9, 2008 at 8:56 PM
The bishop is very much correct. The Church of England is an established church, and the Queen is the head of that church. Unlike America, in which Joe Schmoe politician tries to be nice to Christians is seen as the “establishment” of a Church, in England there is a REAL established Church.
Sydney Carton on June 9, 2008 at 8:57 PM
Most of the country fears a civil war, why?. Because their neighbor is so upset about Muslims in Britain, not that they would ever condone it…
It’s not. If I lived in Britain I’d be edgy.
Theworldisnotenough on June 9, 2008 at 8:58 PM
Ah yes. Those radical Christians. Ministering to the poor and ill. Comforting the oppressed. Really, there’s too few beheadings in that religion. Maybe they could spice it up, with a stake burning, so as to get attention from the government.
/sarc
Dr.Cwac.Cwac on June 9, 2008 at 8:58 PM
I hope the Christians do radicalise. I should point out that by radicalisation I do not mean engaging in violence of any kind. I mean they should denounce the British government, which is not a moral form of government. They should say so and say so loudly. For starters.
aengus on June 9, 2008 at 9:01 PM
Brown is a lifelong Anglican but the Anglican Church never hold him to any standard. They should threaten to kick him out of their church.
aengus on June 9, 2008 at 9:03 PM
There’s maybe one advantage to living in the 7th-Century, as opposed to the 21st-Century. Fourteen-hundred years ago in the West, in Europe, it was only the eunuchs that gave up having testicles. Now it’s just routine.
RBMN on June 9, 2008 at 9:04 PM
The Malaysian Prime Minister should be a little more patient. Britain is decaying as fast as it can.
BL@KBIRD on June 9, 2008 at 9:05 PM
Where are the Sex Pistols when you really need them……….?
Seven Percent Solution on June 9, 2008 at 9:18 PM
Yes, the British government should limit it to necessary abuse.
stonemeister on June 9, 2008 at 9:21 PM
Thank God I live in the USA.
When will the Brits revolt against this extreme protection of Islam?
Gutless government. They need a Margret Thatcher as much as we need a Reagan here in the states.
jencab on June 9, 2008 at 9:24 PM
Does anyone actually want to debate the fact that the UK was founded on Christian principles? Why is it that they feel such a compulsion to forego these principles? Could it possibly be that the nation has been systematically brainwashed? Will it be their demise?
I think so.
(turning the hospital beds towards Mecca 5X a day makes it almost impossible to post to your readers in the US)
Jesus, I am exhausted…
Babs on June 9, 2008 at 9:25 PM
*sigh* Yeah, okay, I could have worded it better, you know what I meant.
doubleplusundead on June 9, 2008 at 9:26 PM
Why would one want to be noticed by the government?
Why would one want the government to ‘pay attention’ to them?
Oh, you mean like money? Free Lunch? Day care? Trip to Rio for carnival?
rockhauler on June 9, 2008 at 9:34 PM
Holy shiite, what an ignoramus comment. That’s like knowing you have destructive cancer, and letting it grow out of control, with a likely outcome!
byteshredder on June 9, 2008 at 9:42 PM
Britain is like a prostitute who, after having sore genitals, is trying to be virgin again.
Too late.
Indy Conservative on June 9, 2008 at 9:56 PM
I figure your wish will come true, in both countries, and we will get leaders who make Reagan and Thatcher look like San Francisco liberals. The problem is the events that are going to be required to make that happen, but seems like things are right on schedule for such events to materalize. Obama 08!
DFCtomm on June 9, 2008 at 10:01 PM
Well I went to St.Lukes church in my younger days,and
the Church camp was run by the Anglican’s,are Minister
was our Navy league CO.
And those were the most fun summers I ever had,our
Minister and his wife ran the camp,1/2 hour of church,
the rest play!
This guy in England seem’s to be on a Mission,and I
have no idea what this guy is out to prove!
canopfor on June 9, 2008 at 10:03 PM
Hope for us?
Connie on June 9, 2008 at 10:07 PM
What Britain needs is another Chesterton.
crabtree on June 9, 2008 at 10:29 PM
What Britain needs is another Hitler.
Indy Conservative on June 9, 2008 at 10:38 PM
Britain still has Christians? I
gmbdds on June 9, 2008 at 10:39 PM
LOL
Theworldisnotenough on June 9, 2008 at 10:40 PM
And I’m damn serious about it.
Only another Hitler, after beating the crap out of Britain, then they may wake up and have a sense of patriotism instead of selling their country to the Muslims.
Indy Conservative on June 9, 2008 at 10:51 PM
Any post regarding the Islamic sect that is being outlawed in Indonesia due to it.. not being Islamic enough?
Another Hitler would require him (or her) to ride a wave of Nationalism to the top job, which most likely would require a large discontented underclass and a useful scapegoat.
Hmm.
*looks at England again*
Don’t think that one’s gonna work out quite the way you’re imagining it..
Reaps on June 9, 2008 at 11:20 PM
Yeah, we sure need our civilians to be bombed some more.
MattMacD on June 9, 2008 at 11:54 PM
Who cares aside from the Anglicans? Anglican/Episcopal churches in the developed world that are not offshoots of developing world Anglican churches are in meltdown.
Vatican Watcher on June 10, 2008 at 12:01 AM
That would be fine too.
crabtree on June 10, 2008 at 12:10 AM
Only another Hitler, after beating the crap out of Britain, then they may wake up and have a sense of patriotism instead of selling their country to the Muslims.
Actually, after WW2, the Brits kicked out Churchill and really got down to imposing socialism. They didn’t really have a “golden era” like America did in the late 1940s and 1950s. For the Brits, their society has been going downhill since WW2.
Sydney Carton on June 10, 2008 at 12:18 AM
I meant to say that during WWII there was a wave of nationalism provoked by Hitler’s attacks on Britain. And another Hitler would probably revives what has been buried by the current British cowards and traitors.
Indy Conservative on June 10, 2008 at 1:24 AM
Yes, and if not by another Hitler, then then I’m sure the Muslims will do a better job slaughtering the Brits and even then, the Brits will open their country wider to the Arabs and Muslims. I think Spain comes to mind.
Indy Conservative on June 10, 2008 at 1:26 AM
The European Union is a ‘Union of Cowards.’
Indy Conservative on June 10, 2008 at 1:28 AM
is another way of saying
uptight on June 10, 2008 at 1:35 AM
We could all use another Chesterton, but God doesn’t send the same lightning twice. Pray for a miracle by all means, but don’t try to write detailed specs for it.
Meanwhile, let’s spread the word about Chesteron, who wrote more than once about Moslem forces taking over Britain, by force and by force of idea.
I knew no harm of Bonaparte and plenty of the squire
And for to fight the Frenchman I did not much desire.
But I did bash their baggonets because they came arrayed
To straighten out a crooked road the English drunkard made.
njcommuter on June 10, 2008 at 1:45 AM
Sorry, too painful to watch a friend commit suicide.
Merovign on June 10, 2008 at 3:46 AM
Unfortunately, that cannot happen today. The demographics of England have changed for the worse since 1945. There is no cohesion in the populace now.
As for the attention received by Islam in England:- squeaky wheel.
OldEnglish on June 10, 2008 at 4:33 AM
to call islam a faith.you must ask faith in what.. to bring the world into islam by any means is central to it
rico101 on June 10, 2008 at 6:21 AM
Having an official religion England is already a theocratic state, at least on paper. They ought to dump the COE and then go after all religious extremists according to their acts. Christianity is dead in Western Europe and the real danger is that radical Islam may take its place by importing and reproducing ‘believers.’ Governments should make certain that they are not paying the executioner for their own beheading by stopping all grants and tax advantages to all religious organizations.
Annar on June 10, 2008 at 7:34 AM
The first step is to disarm the public. Nice work Great Britain.
jukin on June 10, 2008 at 9:54 AM
actually they need Charles the hammer Martel.
I guess Arthur would do in a pinch….
right4life on June 10, 2008 at 10:04 AM
Britain is our canary in the coal mine. Watch with great interest.
Lunkinator on June 10, 2008 at 10:18 AM
Of course they pay more attention; Islam can cut your head off if you offend it.
England likes their wigs.
Black Adam on June 10, 2008 at 3:02 PM
I wonder if Ms Blears has even heard of jizyah. After all, payments to the Mohamemdans (extremist Muslims) are simply viewed as proper jizyah coming in installments. If the installments are suddenly too small look for the action.
{^_^}
herself on June 11, 2008 at 5:33 AM
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