Open thread: Don’t leave us, Hillary! Update: “Support Senator Obama today,” says website
posted at 11:31 am on June 7, 2008 by Allahpundit
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High noon ET, around the dial on cable news, the dream of 18 million Democrats and every Republican in America finally dies. There are navel-gazing feminist valedictions aplenty this morning about What It All Means for women if you’re looking for something to chew on, but if you are, make sure to season liberally beforehand with irony like this:
Many who are close to her blamed the paralysis on Clinton’s lack of faith in her own political judgment, and reliance on her husband in political matters.
“She trusted him more than she trusted herself,” said one adviser.
Fox News insists she’s under pressure to give a great speech, but short of an off-the-cuff aside that she’s still the better candidate or that she expects McCain to win big in November, there’s almost no way she can screw this up. Rah-rah for Obama + misty-eyed tribute to her supporters + Democrats uber alles = sickeningly sweet Strange New Respect for the rest of the weekend from the same media that’s been crapping on her since Obama ran the table in February, and don’t think the public hasn’t noticed. I’ll be watching it on MSNBC for the comic spectacle of Chris Matthews et al. gushing grotesquely afterwards to atone for months of behavior that inspired websites like this.
Anyway, like the boss says, it’s time to put the nice mask on. Sound off below. Exit question one: Does Hillary dare omit a lament about sexism while she has this spotlight? Think how disappointed the sisterhood will be. And exit question two: “For 16 years … you’ve had a lot of—a lot of fun—that you’ve had an opportunity to attack me and I think I’ve given as good as I’ve taken… But as I leave you I want you to know—just think how much you’re going to be missing. You won’t have Nixon to kick around anymore, because, gentlemen, this is my last press conference.” Is this Nixon ‘62 or Nixon ‘74? Like a liberal watching his most hated enemy flash the V sign and disappear into the presidential helicopter, my feelings at this moment are so, so … nuanced.
Update: The RNC pounces: “Clinton vs. Obama.”
Update: Per the few-days-old video on her front page, she’s still claiming she won the popular vote. Is she going to rub Obama’s face in that again during the speech?
Update: Change.
Update: Yup, she’s really pouring on the grrrrrl power near the end here.
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She can still dream: McCain wins and has to go up against Clinton/Obama ‘12. They win in a landslide, she serves two terms and Obama’s still in his 50’s to run in ‘20.
sanguine4 on June 7, 2008 at 11:40 AM
Has anyone spotted any celestial choirs?
ninjapirate on June 7, 2008 at 11:44 AM
Naw,
This is how it ends.
These people are too predictable.
franksalterego on June 7, 2008 at 11:45 AM
Ooops
Wrong link
This works better
franksalterego on June 7, 2008 at 11:48 AM
I thought I’d be happier, I guess I didn’t realize how dangerous Obama could be.
ctmom on June 7, 2008 at 11:51 AM
She’s been such a lousy, ineffectual, inconsequential Senator from NY, that there was no magic here about her, except in Manhattan among the single women with cats. It was a good thing for her that she was so few people’s Senator as there would be no aura left to dispel. Remember, we’ve had both the Clintons here since 2000. Truly, they didn’t make much of an impact.
JiangxiDad on June 7, 2008 at 11:53 AM
It was real and it was fun but it wasn’t real fun.
Domino on June 7, 2008 at 11:54 AM
Surprise she late
Gwillie on June 7, 2008 at 12:02 PM
I think people just got tired of the Clintons, of excusing and otherwise ignoring their indiscretions over the years. It got easier when a new pretty face came along. But hey, without substance, and if Obama is elected, they’ll get tired of him too.
Then we can back a real conservative. It’s been a while…
manwithblackhat on June 7, 2008 at 12:04 PM
If I’m not mistaken, you are funny.
JiangxiDad on June 7, 2008 at 12:05 PM
Nice palazzo. Where is it?
JiangxiDad on June 7, 2008 at 12:08 PM
Put away the hankies. Like the lingering stench of puke, she ain’t goin’ nowhere.
whitetop on June 7, 2008 at 12:12 PM
Just switched to MSNBC.
Was greeted with the great maw of Olby spouting his special brand of flowery
craprhetoric.I’m feeling nauseated & have a headache now.
Purple Fury on June 7, 2008 at 12:12 PM
She’s not going anywhere. Here car and escort are still in her driveway. Reminds me of Bush-Gore in 2000.
Valiant on June 7, 2008 at 12:15 PM
She can by not showing up. Oooo the drama.
Valiant on June 7, 2008 at 12:16 PM
Ummm,tantalizing,and yet so perplexing,
not one peep from the femenazi brigade!
Not one feminist to sound the trumpets
of a feminist defeat,but if not for the
Liberal party,who then do they speak for?
Hillary’s lone quest for POTUSOA has come,
or is coming to an end!
I can’t believe I’m saying this,but Hillary
you deserve credit,for swimming upstream against
the Liberal media who at one time swam with you,
and you gave it a good shot,even if Bill became
your biggest boat anchor,so smooth sailing in the
political waters of your party!
Bon voyage! :)
canopfor on June 7, 2008 at 12:17 PM
Purple Fury on June 7, 2008 at 12:12 PM
Just how far left can MSNBC get they are going to have Rachel Maddow (sp?) come on after the brake.
I have a coworker who gets all of his news from MSNBC and I have to explain everything to him.
Gwillie on June 7, 2008 at 12:20 PM
She hasn’t even left her house yet. Hahaha. She does not want to do this!
krabbas on June 7, 2008 at 12:22 PM
Two woman just went into the house, my guess hairdressers
Gwillie on June 7, 2008 at 12:23 PM
Will someone let me know when the house falls on her?
woodswalking1 on June 7, 2008 at 12:25 PM
Chris Matthews bemoans the carbon footprint of Hillary’s SUV says she should drive a “Smart Car”
Gwillie on June 7, 2008 at 12:25 PM
Those of you watching MSNBC for this have much stronger stomachs than I do. I’m guessing you’re fans of Eli Roth and Rob Zombie movies, too.
CK MacLeod on June 7, 2008 at 12:33 PM
She’s running on Clinton Standard Time. That hasn’t changed.
RBMN on June 7, 2008 at 12:34 PM
Hey, since this is an Open Thread…
If you’re at all an Adam Sandler fan, you owe it to yourself to go see, “You Don’t Mess With Zohan”. Went too see it yesterday.
It’s as stupid as all Sandler movies, but there are quite a few laughs in it. And we could all use a laugh about now.
techno_barbarian on June 7, 2008 at 12:40 PM
The Beast is in da’ house.
This should be interesting.
techno_barbarian on June 7, 2008 at 12:41 PM
CK MacLeod on June 7, 2008 at 12:33 PM
I have to, in order to keep my “those guys are so stupid” quotes fresh.
Gwillie on June 7, 2008 at 12:42 PM
I still hold out hope for the Tonya Harding Option
William Amos on June 7, 2008 at 12:42 PM
Doh!
techno_barbarian on June 7, 2008 at 12:43 PM
Hillary is in the building.
Paul-Cincy on June 7, 2008 at 12:44 PM
Yep 45 minutes Clinton standard time
Gwillie on June 7, 2008 at 12:44 PM
Here we go…
“Ding dong the witch is dead…” ;o)
techno_barbarian on June 7, 2008 at 12:44 PM
This just sounds appropriate to me while we wait for Her Thighness. Is she having trouble getting her cankles into a new pair of Manolo Blahnik’s?
–Macbeth, Scene V
P.S. I get polled by Gallup today. I responded, grudgingly, that I would vote for McCain in a general against the Messiah. I also responded, trying to keep the vomit for exploding, that I would vote for Juan against “The Dream Team” (Barry/Hidabeast combo).
Dr.Cwac.Cwac on June 7, 2008 at 12:45 PM
Tears or defiance? Place your bets.
Paul-Cincy on June 7, 2008 at 12:46 PM
Crap! get = got
Dr.Cwac.Cwac on June 7, 2008 at 12:46 PM
It really is show business for ugly people.
RBMN on June 7, 2008 at 12:46 PM
Onions.
Dr.Cwac.Cwac on June 7, 2008 at 12:46 PM
Another day I thank God I am not Howard Dean…..
Branch Rickey on June 7, 2008 at 12:48 PM
Will it be sexist America’s fault?
RBMN on June 7, 2008 at 12:48 PM
% bucks says she cackles in 5 minutes.
Funny her speech starts with all this thanks for the money stuff.
Gwillie on June 7, 2008 at 12:49 PM
% = 5
Gwillie on June 7, 2008 at 12:49 PM
what would you give for enthusiasm like the crowd is showing for ANY GOP candidate?
techno_barbarian on June 7, 2008 at 12:49 PM
Will Obama have to pay 13 year old Ann Riddle’s Disney debt?
JiangxiDad on June 7, 2008 at 12:50 PM
feh!
CK MacLeod on June 7, 2008 at 12:51 PM
she ain’t goin’ anyplace until after the Convention
Snooper on June 7, 2008 at 12:51 PM
Heh. ;o)
techno_barbarian on June 7, 2008 at 12:51 PM
So,I wonder,will Hillary’s supporters still
be marching with pitch forks to Denver,
like a scene out of Mel Brooks Frankenstien,
jus sayin! Ha ha. :)
canopfor on June 7, 2008 at 12:52 PM
No endorsement of Comrade Obambi yet. Just more campaigning for herself.
techno_barbarian on June 7, 2008 at 12:52 PM
no eskimos, armenians?
JiangxiDad on June 7, 2008 at 12:52 PM
Bill and Hill should take Ann to Disney.
Gwillie on June 7, 2008 at 12:52 PM
She ain’t goin’ nowheres.
techno_barbarian on June 7, 2008 at 12:53 PM
If you can’t afford insurance, you get health care free at the emergency room. She must be dumb as well as ill.
JiangxiDad on June 7, 2008 at 12:54 PM
Well Did you see that smile she was just so close to a cackle I almost won 5 bucks
Gwillie on June 7, 2008 at 12:54 PM
Does Hillary have to return her cheeks after the speech?
JiangxiDad on June 7, 2008 at 12:54 PM
She just threw her support behind Obama, although not with a lot of enthusiasm.
pullingmyhairout on June 7, 2008 at 12:54 PM
So,ABC is carrying it live,but when
Bush goes on the air,only Fox News
covers it!
Me thinks it strange!
canopfor on June 7, 2008 at 12:54 PM
You could tell it just killed her to say that.
techno_barbarian on June 7, 2008 at 12:55 PM
I’m sure that was probably the most painful line she’s ever had to deliver.
pullingmyhairout on June 7, 2008 at 12:55 PM
I guess he did promise to retire her debt.
RBMN on June 7, 2008 at 12:55 PM
“As I suspend my campaign…” Not exactly giving up completely there.
Mibrilane on June 7, 2008 at 12:55 PM
I think it’s time to start my own country on a little deserted island somewhere. All this rhetoric REALLY scares me.
pullingmyhairout on June 7, 2008 at 12:57 PM
Go Hil! Ride that universal healthcare atom bomb right straight to the ground.
techno_barbarian on June 7, 2008 at 12:58 PM
what’s she running for?
JiangxiDad on June 7, 2008 at 12:59 PM
Monica Crowley states words matter does Hillary “Support” or “Endorse” Obama?
http://monicamemo.typepad.com/weblog/2008/06/will-sheor-wont.html
Dr Evil on June 7, 2008 at 12:59 PM
When do the Flying Monkey’s take to the air! he he :)
And,it looks like a Liberal wake,looking at
the camera’s panning their faces,they look
devasted!
canopfor on June 7, 2008 at 12:59 PM
So, is she saying it’s the dem’s “turn”?
techno_barbarian on June 7, 2008 at 1:00 PM
4 decades = 40 years
10 presidents =40 years
JiangxiDad on June 7, 2008 at 1:00 PM
Speaking of ovations, will McCain get the first ever “golf applause” when he walks up to the podium in St.Paul to deliver his speech.
jjshaka on June 7, 2008 at 1:00 PM
did billy ever win a majority?
JiangxiDad on June 7, 2008 at 1:00 PM
“Stretch the boundaries” of government power. “Yes we can.”
RBMN on June 7, 2008 at 1:01 PM
I knew it,the real family,is the Liberal family!
canopfor on June 7, 2008 at 1:01 PM
We need to elect Obambi for healthcare?
techno_barbarian on June 7, 2008 at 1:02 PM
si se puede!
JiangxiDad on June 7, 2008 at 1:02 PM
One line for healthcare. One line for bread.
RBMN on June 7, 2008 at 1:02 PM
I think I hear some McCainocrats in the audience!
lsutiger on June 7, 2008 at 1:03 PM
The best reason for throwing all our efforts into defeating Osama Obama and all he stands for: the end of the kind of frightening government dominance The Hildebeest is yammering about.
We as Americans will not be truly safe until they, media sheep like the NY Times and all those screaming demo-bots are consigned to the dumpster of history.
The longer she speaks, the more I fear we are poised on the brink of national destruction.
MrScribbler on June 7, 2008 at 1:03 PM
wow. she’s setting a tough agenda for Barry.
JiangxiDad on June 7, 2008 at 1:03 PM
I doubt you’ll find much daylight between Bambi & the Beast in this speech. Sure, there will be divergences and self-serving emphases, but that’s inevitable in any statement longer than a few words. Any statement shorter than a stemwinder could be judge curt. Any vocalization quieter than a caterwaul could be called unenthusiastic. Anything overly enthusiastic could be called forced and fake.
I will say, though, that I noticed an odd new “tell” – a way she purses her lips and checks her notes grimly after making a statement probably agreed on between their staffs… you can see it virtually every time during this repetitious section of the speech on why we must elect etc. etc.
CK MacLeod on June 7, 2008 at 1:04 PM
CARBON DIOXIDE IS NOT A POISON!
Damnit, but that pisses me off.
…She’s going to have them chanting, “That’s why we must elect Barack Obama!”. Watch and see.
Now sexism… to thunderous but confusing applause.
techno_barbarian on June 7, 2008 at 1:04 PM
Did I miss something? Is a women going to serve as commander in chief?
ctmom on June 7, 2008 at 1:04 PM
I Hope HilRod doesn’t Change her mind!
canopfor on June 7, 2008 at 1:05 PM
And, of course, like Russia, one for toilet paper.
techno_barbarian on June 7, 2008 at 1:05 PM
on a personal note? this is all about her.
JiangxiDad on June 7, 2008 at 1:05 PM
Yup!
techno_barbarian on June 7, 2008 at 1:06 PM
I sure haven’t joined the Obamessiah religion. It’s not like real religion, where you have a lot of choices. In November, there are only two choices, or atheism, and atheism is the road to the Obamessiah as well.
RBMN on June 7, 2008 at 1:07 PM
And a woman might have won if she ran on something other than being a woman.
JiangxiDad on June 7, 2008 at 1:09 PM
They’re damn sure good at ‘not listening to anyone who says you can’t or shouldn’t go on’.
techno_barbarian on June 7, 2008 at 1:09 PM
Grrrrl power.
Tru2my2 on June 7, 2008 at 1:10 PM
one for toilet paper…
techno_barbarian on June 7,2008 at 1:05PM.
techno_barbarian: That’s in line,for one square,
a la Crow! Ha ha. :)
canopfor on June 7, 2008 at 1:11 PM
“That’s why we must elect Barack Obama.”
“HillaryClintonDOTcom”
“Just set it and forget it.”
Thanks a heap Ron Popeil.
IrishEi on June 7, 2008 at 1:11 PM
hahahahahaahah
JiangxiDad on June 7, 2008 at 1:12 PM
Gonna be a lot less shaking hands in the future, I predict. ;o)
techno_barbarian on June 7, 2008 at 1:12 PM
So…we just shot our 50th woman into space? Can we make it ONE MORE…PLEASE!
JetBlast on June 7, 2008 at 1:13 PM
Did she just say “We maybe didn’t break the glass ceiling this time, but it has 18 million CRACKS in it?”
Did she really say that?
Whoa. Beavis and Butthead alert.
Rhinoboy on June 7, 2008 at 1:13 PM
Well, we all have one thing to thank Obama for.
RBMN on June 7, 2008 at 1:13 PM
Think she’ll finally kick Clenis to the curb after this? After all, she doesn’t need him anymore and he helped torpedo her chances this campaign.
techno_barbarian on June 7, 2008 at 1:13 PM
I wasn’t listening very closely, I confess – did she mention McCain by name – maybe somewhere at the beginning? Has the text of the speech been released?
CK MacLeod on June 7, 2008 at 1:14 PM
What is Monday in the Senate going to be like for the poor saps who didn’t support her?
ctmom on June 7, 2008 at 1:15 PM
She’s going to keep going… campaigning for the next election. We will never be rid of her.
techno_barbarian on June 7, 2008 at 1:15 PM
“Blasted.” She said “We just Blasted our 50th woman into space.”
This is comedy gold.
Rhinoboy on June 7, 2008 at 1:16 PM
She did it again… ‘that very small list’ of dem presidents.
Whaaaaaaaa!!! It’s our turn! Whaaaaaaa!
techno_barbarian on June 7, 2008 at 1:16 PM
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