Video: McCain on Obama’s Jerusalem flip-flop
posted at 8:45 pm on June 6, 2008 by Allahpundit
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Funny, although perhaps a bit unfair. Even James Taranto is willing to give Obama the benefit of the doubt on what he said at AIPAC, i.e. that Jerusalem should remain “undivided” in the sense that no parts of it should be walled off, not that no parts of it should conceivably be under Palestinian rule if that’s what the two sides agree to. We’ll know for sure what he meant once we see reaction among the pro-Israeli slice of the electorate. If they’re iffy, count on the post-partisan, highly principled Lamb of God revising his comments further with a stirring defense of Jerusalem as an Israeli city, now and forever.
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maybe he wants jeruslem for himself
right4life on June 6, 2008 at 8:53 PM
LOL good one. He’s so much better off-the-cuff.
p0s3r on June 6, 2008 at 8:53 PM
Alas all those commenters from the not so recent past worried about McCain being able to take the gloves off…
Factual, accurate, and on an issue. Nice shot!
Hog Wild on June 6, 2008 at 8:55 PM
obama is a liar, that’s it. he was just pandering to AIPAC and the sad thing is many of the young people their actually believe him. I for one wasn’t fooled, maybe I’m being cynical at my young age, but hey,what can you do.
Lance Murdock on June 6, 2008 at 8:56 PM
I say yes, we move our embassy to Jerusalem–open up a few offices inside the Dome of the Rock. We’ll be safe from Islamofascist bombs in there.
jgapinoy on June 6, 2008 at 9:00 PM
We should level the temple mount just to see what happens. Might be fun.
lorien1973 on June 6, 2008 at 9:02 PM
Hey, I bet I know who Olbermann’s next WORST PERSON IN THE WOOOOOORLLLD will be. LOL I hope poor Senator McCain can stand the disapproval.
funky chicken on June 6, 2008 at 9:03 PM
“Undivided” means “undivided” everyone knows what it means. That’s why the audience went nuts when he said it.
Obama is saying what needs to be said to those he needs to say it to. It’s just like Bill Clinton. And the press lets him get away with it, just like they did with Bill Clinton.
Thank God for the Internet.
29Victor on June 6, 2008 at 9:04 PM
FLIP-FLOPPING OBAMA…
Shades of 2004 and “Hanoi John Kerry.”
byteshredder on June 6, 2008 at 9:07 PM
tsk, tsk :-)
funky chicken on June 6, 2008 at 9:08 PM
“Should we move our embassy in Israel to Jerusalem” Would make a great opening question for the first Presidential Debate…
Tark on June 6, 2008 at 9:10 PM
OOOHHH BURRRNNNNNN!
fossten on June 6, 2008 at 9:11 PM
Well just take his last three positions on an issue and aim for the one in the middle.
MB4 on June 6, 2008 at 9:18 PM
What’s the big deal?! After Obama is elected, a New Jerusalem will come down from the sky.
Jeez, guys, read your prophecies…
Exurban Jon on June 6, 2008 at 9:20 PM
There’s an outside chance that the guy had no clue why they went nuts, and had no clue what the hell he was talking about at all.
There’s also an outside chance that he believes his press and thinks that that whole New Jerusalem deal may just happen.
Neither scenario makes me feel any better about him, of course.
funky chicken on June 6, 2008 at 9:27 PM
Please have more faith in the Community organizer™.
mred on June 6, 2008 at 9:27 PM
Mahdi ‘08
mred on June 6, 2008 at 9:27 PM
lol
carbon_footprint on June 6, 2008 at 9:40 PM
A few more like this and I could cross over and vote for him
jukin on June 6, 2008 at 9:42 PM
Hey, speaking of flip-flopping around, if Obambi fancies himself the Lamb of HisOwnSelf, and the Real One is symbolized by a fish, as a fisher of men … can we expect to see Obambi satirized by a flip-flopping fish sometime soon?
Works for me.
Jaibones on June 6, 2008 at 9:52 PM
AP, it’s a rare occasion when McCain is going after Obama instead of kissing his ass. Don’t discourage him!
Jim-Rose on June 6, 2008 at 9:55 PM
Obama lies constantly. Everything he says is full of lies. Look at the past.
Dukakis – wimp
Gore – Mr. Overstates the Case
Kerry – flip-flopper
Obama – liar
indythinker on June 6, 2008 at 9:57 PM
What… no red meat?
We want red meat.
wccawa on June 6, 2008 at 10:03 PM
So he’s either an idiot or he’s stupid. Great.
29Victor on June 6, 2008 at 10:04 PM
King McFlipflopper McCain wants you to not notice his wiretapping flip flop. I guess you can’t see it from your delicious McCain Koolaid drunk buzz.
And yes, I AGREE, indythinker!!! EVERYTHING Obama – oops, sorry HUSSEIN – says is “full of lies”! And did you know his last name is ONE LETTER away from OSAMA, which means there’s a connection betweeen him and OSAMA BIN LADEN? Do I even have to bring up the Hussein thing – Saddam Hussein, Barack HUSSEIN Obama – HELLO! So Obviously a connection!
Dave Rywall on June 6, 2008 at 10:06 PM
McCain is a solid, tough performer and is well versed in all of the subject requirements of a potential president of the United States.
He would demolish Obama in a one-to-one town hall debate because without his crib sheets Obama is a lost soul.
rplat on June 6, 2008 at 10:09 PM
He’s a tough old coot that’s for sure. If Obama thinks this is going to be a cakewalk he’s mistaken.
SouthernGent on June 6, 2008 at 10:15 PM
It’s the Obamessiah’s Orwellian Newspeak: “unconditional” means “conditional”; “not a serious threat” means a “grave” threat; and “undivided” means “divided.”
“‘When I use a word,’ Humpty Dumpty said, in a rather scornful tone, ‘it means just what I choose it to mean, neither more nor less.’”
Get it?
Blackacre on June 6, 2008 at 10:37 PM
Dave R, Nobody mentioned anything about the “H-word” or Osama Bin Laden or any similarity in the spellings of Osama and Obama, until you did.
My friend, have a beer, and stay away from the Kool Aide. You will be happier here that way.
65droptop on June 6, 2008 at 10:44 PM
Wow. Dave seems upset. Kinda nervous. I think Senator McCain has him a bit rattled.
funky chicken on June 6, 2008 at 10:44 PM
Make Kos and Dave Cry. McCain ‘08!
funky chicken on June 6, 2008 at 10:45 PM
Thomas Sowell’s column is good:
http://www.townhall.com/columnists/ThomasSowell/2008/06/05/obama_and_mccain?page=2
funky chicken on June 6, 2008 at 10:49 PM
Sorry, but McCain didn’t flip on wiretaps. Source: New York Times
I’m not afraid of Barack’s middle name. I am concerned about a candidate who has his henchmen charge “Racism!” every time someone happens to mention it. I am concerned about a candidate who idly jokes about giving Congress a “Whoopin” if Congress were to fail to pass certain legislation. I am concerned about a candidate who denies Al Qaeda was in Iraq when they killed our troops. I am concerned about a candidate who says Iran wasn’t in Iraq when their equipment has been killing our troops, the chief of intelligence says they are trying to kill our troops, and we captured a senior Hezbollah figure in Iraq training terrorists.
That and Obama lies all the time. He concerns me.
indythinker on June 6, 2008 at 10:50 PM
Barry doesn’t pay attention to what he says because he knows the media won’t either.
He’s just warming up his rhetorical excesses.
He’ll soon be hotski to Trotski.
All McCain needs to do is look justifiably amazed at the forked streams of b.s. issuing from the Messiah’s maw.
profitsbeard on June 6, 2008 at 10:58 PM
The GOP can fill up a full 60 second commercial just on the Obama lies alone. Of coarse, lying to a Democrat simply means their lips are moving; it comes as naturally as walking. I’d like to see some brave reporter ask Obama what lie he would like to use on this little fact:
Who’s to Blame for High Gas Prices?
For several decades, the Democratic Party has pursued policies designed to drive up the cost of petroleum, and therefore gas at the pump. Remarkably, the Democrats don’t seem to have taken much of a political hit from the current spike in gas prices. Probably that’s because most people don’t realize how different the two parties’ energy policies have been.
Congressman Roy Blunt put together these data to highlight the differences between House Republicans and House Democrats on energy policy:
ANWR Exploration House Republicans: 91% Supported House Democrats: 86% Opposed
Coal-to-Liquid
House Republicans: 97% Supported
House Democrats: 78% Opposed
Oil Shale Exploration
House Republicans: 90% Supported
House Democrats: 86% Opposed
Outer Continental Shelf (OCS) Exploration
House Republicans: 81% Supported
House Democrats: 83% Opposed
Refinery Increased Capacity
House Republicans: 97% Supported
House Democrats: 96% Opposed
SUMMARY
91% of House Republicans have historically voted to increase the production of American-made oil and gas.
86% of House Democrats have historically voted against increasing the production of American-made oil and gas.
PAUL adds: It’s useful to keep this sort of thing in mind when we hear (on something like a daily basis these days) that the Republicans have run out of ideas or that Republican ideas didn’t work. The truth is that most major Republican ideas weren’t tried because the Democrats blocked them. Increasing the domestic production of oil and gas (a move so obvious it barely meets the standard for being an idea) is hardly the only example. Social security reform and school choice also come quickly to mind. Republican-backed policies for increasing the number of Americans with health insurance were also blocked by Democrats. And so forth. (powerline)
When Democrat members of my family ask me why I vote Republican, this is the type of hard facts that drives them all to lying (denial of the truth) in a heartbeat.
Keemo on June 6, 2008 at 11:05 PM
Would that include all Christian and Jewish relics, icons and the wall as well?
Annar on June 6, 2008 at 11:09 PM
Keemo, is that from powerline? It’s good stuff…numbers are kinda hard to argue against
funky chicken on June 6, 2008 at 11:12 PM
Amen. Drop the hero worship while you are at it too Dave.
Hog Wild on June 6, 2008 at 11:21 PM
funky chicken on June 6, 2008 at 11:12 PM
Yes; here is the link…
http://www.powerlineblog.com/
Amen. Drop the hero worship while you are at it too Dave.
Hog Wild on June 6, 2008 at 11:21 PM
Dave’s a flamer left over Canadian Kosite from the Captains Quarters era… He’s a typical “legend in his own mind” Liberal with nothing to add; nothing of any value to say; shows up simply to stick his finger in the chest from the safety of his computer.
Keemo on June 6, 2008 at 11:28 PM
Nice zinger, bad choice of time to drop it.
Typhonsentra on June 6, 2008 at 11:44 PM
Maybe, but it’s best not to count your McChickens before they hatch.
MB4 on June 6, 2008 at 11:49 PM
Apparently none of you believe McFlipflopper McCain flip flopped on wiretapping. But that’s okay.
And hey – Warren Buffett told me to say hello to you fellas from Obama’s campaign headquarters. He’s wondering why his endorsement hasn’t raised so much as a peep from Hotair. But hey – that’s okay too.
Dave Rywall on June 6, 2008 at 11:52 PM
If done just right the amazed look comes off very well, devastating even, however if just a little off the amazed look appears more like a confused look. So if he is going to go that route he had best practice a lot in front of the mirror.
MB4 on June 6, 2008 at 11:53 PM
I want my quote of the day! Darnit!
lorien1973 on June 7, 2008 at 12:00 AM
We’re scroomed!
MB4 on June 7, 2008 at 12:06 AM
Dagnabbit!
lorien1973 on June 7, 2008 at 12:11 AM
Change we can believe in.
Connie on June 7, 2008 at 12:18 AM
Warren Buffet endorsed the democrat? NO WAY
He endorsed John Kerry, as I recall, so why wouldn’t he endorse the Obamassiah?
funky chicken on June 7, 2008 at 12:19 AM
Our embassy to Jerusalem. I like. I like!
Mojave Mark on June 7, 2008 at 12:28 AM
Excellent for McCain to take a solid stand
on Jerusalem,it should never be divided,it
belongs to Israel,so Jihadys,get over it!
And Hope(Hop)along Obama stated that somehow
they are going to have to find a solution,then
the next day,Jerusalem belongs to the Israel’s!
Rush played both sound clips,here we go again,
the “Slick Willy” deal,which is it Obama,or is
the Lefty MSM going to straighten out his message
every time he flip/flops!
canopfor on June 7, 2008 at 12:30 AM
Allah — there’s nothing “unfair” about the assessment of Obama’s remarks. Note the timing, i.e. the “negotiation” piece comes to the fore once the Palestinians start squawking… I don’t care if he’s talking about religious sites, neigborhoods or the parking lot at Wal-Mart — he modified his remarks to appease Palestinian protests, plain and simple.
The fact that he has Wexler (or as I like to call him, Whiner) out there shilling for him doesn’t lend any credibility… I’m surprised old media whore Bob hasn’t donned his yarmulke just to make his points in defense of BHO.
D2Boston on June 7, 2008 at 12:36 AM
Right. If Hot Air bothered with such a thread, it would have to be “obligatory.”
Connie on June 7, 2008 at 12:42 AM
1) Denying us access to our own oil makes us dependent on others.
2) Russia is making tons of money now from oil
Connect the dots.
The Communists in our own Government want to keep driving the price of gasoline higher.
Red Pill on June 7, 2008 at 12:49 AM
Off the mark completely… again. There is a long and distinguished history on HA of calling those of our own party on issues. McCain is hardly the favorite here. But given the two choices we choose to believe our own eye’s and ears.
Want to compare flip flops? OK, I’ll play. Talking to extremists dictators or not? Can’t throw Wright under the bus, then does. Can’t leave the black church, then does. Wife is busy campaigning, then suddenly isn’t. Ayer’s is a supporter, then just an aqquaintance. Rezko was just a fundraiser, now a criminal. Isreal has the right to defend it’s self and can expect U.S. support, now who know’s? Free trade is bad, or is it? McCain denounces negative adds and Obama is silent. McCain denounces those who trash his opponents immediately, McCain has been unfairly trashed and nothing from Obama. McCain has a history of reaching across the Senate aisle to make things happen much to the chagrin of his party and supporters, Obama has done nothing in the Senate, get that? NOTHING. Head of a committee that has done NOTHING.
One last comparision if you will indulge me.
McCain supported a surge that is succeeding.
Obama uses a story of a U.S. military unit in Afghanistan using captured weapons because of a problem with spare parts, uses that story to slam President Bush. But what did the distinguished Senator do with that information other than use it to gain political points? While in a position to make things happen for U.S. service members on the ground and get them the parts they needed, Obama did nothing to help them. He left them hanging and used them as a political tool.
Sorry Dave, people around here tend to be informed and think for themselves. America will vote for the one they think is less crooked, as they tend to do. McCain has been in public office for over 20 years, and your guy is dragging a lot more baggage than McCain is.
Hog Wild on June 7, 2008 at 1:08 AM
ABBA!
Connie on June 7, 2008 at 1:21 AM
I can honestly say that this post is a complete waste of my time. The video says nothing to an informed warrior and it completely supports the paranoid morons who think there is a conspiracy to destroy the United States while killing innocent jihadists.
Why does the choir need to wade through this bullshit.
winemkr on June 7, 2008 at 1:42 AM
No more giving Obama the benefit of the doubt in situations like this. He is a politician through and through and is going to pander to every group that will hear him out.
WisCon on June 7, 2008 at 2:29 AM
Ok. It’s 2:30 in the morning and I should be in bed, but I have no idea what the heck you are talking about. Paranoid morons are killing innocent jihadists?
Connie on June 7, 2008 at 2:35 AM
Hey dave, you’re really, really dumb. Seriously, not just a little dumb but amazingly dumb. I bet you believe deciding what to watch on television is thinking. You’ll probably get really tired trying to figure out what I mean by that because you don’t ever actually use your brain to think.
peacenprosperity on June 7, 2008 at 6:45 AM
False messiahs are a dime a dozen.
Usually they are merely self deluded individuals.
That HObama’s puppeteer happens to be the wealthiest and most powerful Machine in the world is what folks should target. Otherwise, it’s forever playing catch-up with the ever changing line of the day. So if we laugh at Pinocchio HObama entangled in his web of deceit, we nod knowingly at his puppeteer that we saw through that one, too.
Whoever has yet to see through a false messiah is one to guard against as they would abscond with your treasure at a drop of his hat. I’ve seen false messiahs come and go with their ever changing feigned revelations. McCain’s seen false messiahs come and go around the world. McCain also knows the most powerful Machine in the world, having dabbled with it himself TO OUR CHAGRIN. Once again, however, experience is worth gold when facing a war, whether a war of words or arms.
A billboard titled CHANGE WE CAN BELIEVE IN needs to list Obama’s policy shifting statements before they disappear into his Machine’s magic sinkhole.
maverick muse on June 7, 2008 at 7:21 AM
Oh, c’mon. Obama didn’t flip-flop on Jerusalem.
The truth is he has no idea who, what, or where Jerusalem is. So he just mumbled some horseshit about it and his mumbling happened contradict some earlier mumbling.
To be a flip-flopper, you have to at least understand the issue. Obama’s too dumb and inexperienced to even flip-flop.
Professor Blather on June 7, 2008 at 7:23 AM
he should say “yeah…change, as in wait he’ll change his mind”
or
“he’s says he’s from Chicago and like Chicago weather…wait 5 minutes it’ll change, so will he”
LtE126 on June 7, 2008 at 7:23 AM
Oh puh-lease.
And I’m sure Neville Chaimberlain “meant” something different with “peace in our time”…depending on what “time” (not “is”) is!
The Obamboozler is sleazy and inept. The suspension of disbelief to his “benefit” by journalists is done at all our peril.
Lockstein13 on June 7, 2008 at 7:36 AM
To be a flip-flopper, you have to at least understand the issue. Obama’s too dumb and inexperienced to even flip-flop.
Professor Blather on June 7, 2008 at 7:23 AM
That pretty much sums Obama up to a tee! It’s no wonder Rywall is in bed with Obama; birds of a feather.
Keemo on June 7, 2008 at 7:43 AM
Jerusalem = Israeli City.
Palestinians = move to Jordan (their part of the Balfour Plan) or become Israeli Citizens.
BTW, I highly reccomend “Dont Mess With the Zohan”
Squid Shark on June 7, 2008 at 7:43 AM
The point is that Obama is willing to take a tough, principled stance.
Until someone criticizes him.
Then he folds like a bad lawn chair.
drjohn on June 7, 2008 at 8:05 AM
Obama is producing more flip flops than a chinese factory.
moxie_neanderthal on June 7, 2008 at 9:26 AM
Can’t get the video. Has the Politburo at YouTube taken it down?
rockmom on June 7, 2008 at 9:32 AM
Is it just me, or does McCain get a little Dirty Harry sound in his voice when he’s about to say something snarky and, in this case, truly awesome?
Spc Steve on June 7, 2008 at 2:12 PM
Obama does not waffle or flipflop. He just makes mutually contradictory statements. His own real thoughts are very hard to see. The bulb is very dim.
rakofgor on June 7, 2008 at 3:10 PM
wow, mccain’s head wasn’t up some Deomcrats ass during that clip!
my watch broke.
mylegsareswollen on June 7, 2008 at 11:44 PM
Don’t mess with McCain, he knows we are in a war with Islamofascists and he wants us to win it and will do what he can as President to make sure that we do.
Barry O bin Laden may or may not know about the above war and if he does he’ll want us to loose it as it, and all the evils in this world, are caused either directly on nearly directly by our lifestyle, capitalism, government policies, lack of government policies, no universal healthcare, racism, slavery, oppression, homophobia, sexism or some combination of the above. Either way we deserve to loose. Either that or he’s just a blooming idiot.
When the rest of the world wants “X” to be President, we had better choose “Y”.
Bubba Redneck on June 9, 2008 at 2:08 AM
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