“Naive and dangerous”: Bolton rips Obama
posted at 5:53 pm on June 5, 2008 by Allahpundit
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So tasty that I would have slapped the red-meat graphic on it if not for the fact that all Bolton posts must be adorned with photos prominently displaying The ‘Stache. (Official Hot Air policy.) I wonder why McCain hasn’t given Bolton a bigger role in his campaign, on the order of what Joe Lieberman has. Granted, there’s a cost in associating with any former Bush official, but my sense is that JB is so well loved by conservatives and flew low enough under the radar as ambassador to the UN that he’d be more of an asset to McCain in bringing the base on board than a liability in scaring off independents, especially if Maverick arranged for some high profile counterbalancing appearances alongside prominent “realists” like, say, James Baker. Then again, my sense of what conservatives do and don’t love or hate derives mainly from what right-wing blog readers do and don’t love and hate, and as we’ve seen in the cases of Fred Thompson and Hillary Clinton, the two sets don’t always perfectly coincide.
Anyway. Dangerous naivete:
Consider the following statement, which was lost in the controversy over his comments about negotiations: “Iran, Cuba, Venezuela, these countries are tiny compared to the Soviet Union. They don’t pose a serious threat to us the way the Soviet Union posed a threat to us. … Iran, they spend 1/100th of what we spend on the military. If Iran ever tried to pose a serious threat to us, they wouldn’t stand a chance.”…
Had Italy, for example, gone communist during the 1950s or 1960s, it would have been an inconvenient defeat for the United States but a catastrophe for the people of Italy. An “asymmetric” threat to the U.S. often is an existential threat to its friends, which was something we never forgot during the Cold War. Obama plainly seems to have entirely missed this crucial point. Ironically, it is he who is advocating a unilateralist policy, ignoring the risks and challenges to U.S. allies when the direct threat to us is, in his view, “tiny.”
What is implicit in Obama’s reference to “tiny” threats is that they are sufficiently insignificant that negotiations alone can resolve them. Indeed, he has gone even further, arguing that the lack of negotiations with Iran caused the threats: “And the fact that we have not talked to them means that they have been developing nuclear weapons, funding Hamas, funding Hezbollah.”
This is perhaps the most breathtakingly naive statement of all, implying as it does that it is actually U.S. policy that motivates Iran rather than Iran’s own perceived ambitions and interests.
Indeed, a point I’ve made before myself. Who does he think Obama’s prepared to sacrifice, though, on the altar of isolationism? We’re obliged to intervene militarily on behalf of a NATO ally and St. Barack’s already sworn up and down that he won’t let Israel be threatened by Iran. I’m guessing he means Colombia vis-a-vis Chavez and Taiwan vis-a-vis China (and the Koreas?), but, sad to say, I suspect more of the public would prefer an “ah, let ‘em have it” Obama negotiated settlement in those cases than a ‘Stachian line in the sand. Plus, any pressure brought to bear now on Obama to commit to intervention in the case of X, Y, or Z ally will only make for opposite pressure on McCain to explain how many interventions worldwide he’s prepared to manage simultaneously to keep our enemies honest. Still a useful op-ed, though, in that it’s aimed transparently at Iran, a subject which both sides agree needs to be addressed and which Obama desperately needs to be more specific about. As I’ve asked before, what is he prepared to give up and not give up once the glorious day of dialogue arrives? What if Iran simply refuses to suspend enrichment while agreeing to make concessions on other matters? What, in other words, is your leverage? Because if this new Rasmussen poll is any indication, the public’s going to want you to have some.
Update: An encouraging sign: When it comes to Israel, he’s willing to go the extra mile and break out a lapel pin.
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surrounded on June 5, 2008 at 9:30 PM
Which Eastwood character best portrays Bolton? Josie Whales, the no name sheriff from High Plains Drifter or William Munny from Unforgiven.
dmann on June 5, 2008 at 9:32 PM
My thought be, JB is a “dead ringer” for Wilford Brimley…!
You say?
J_Gocht on June 5, 2008 at 9:39 PM
I love that.
Yes, make him Secretary.
Jaibones on June 5, 2008 at 9:45 PM
Heh…only if Johnny gained a couple of metric tons and needed Medicare provided diabetes supplies! If my memory serves me at all (doubtful after several libations) Wilford portrayed some nasty varmints in his day but I don’t recall him being the good guy and surviving for too long!
dmann on June 5, 2008 at 9:48 PM
freevillage
Your best argument is a link to an old Bill Maher rant about “think tanks” — not even really the think tank that Bolton was involved in? That’s what came immediately to mind? You must have that link bookmarked and “favorited” on YouTube — the out-of-date geopolitical analysis by the star of Cannibal Women in the Avocado Jungle of Death and Ratboy. Hey, got any links to what Russ Meyer or Roger Corman think about “think tanks”? That might help with the “credibility” of your argument. I know you’re all about the “credibility.”
The problem with Obama’s naivete is that it will allow the Mullahs time to build an atom bomb, and the Iranians have given every signal that they plan on using it, either by action to perpetrate a second Holocaust upon the Jews, or by threat to intimidate the West. It’s a categorically different type of danger/naivete. We’ve lost 4000 soldiers in five years. As awful as it is, that actually ain’t bad, historically speaking. Compare to the 1,000,000 casualties in the 8 month battle of Verdun. The dangers of atomic warfare are vastly greater. This type of danger is what Bolton is talking about. Not 4000 dead in five years, but rather 80,000 dead in four minutes.
shazbat on June 5, 2008 at 9:50 PM
Especially in “Any Which Way But Loose” I didn’t like any of those orange ape flicks….maybe because of the damage Planet of the Apes series did to my young impressionable mind!
dmann on June 5, 2008 at 9:53 PM
WB is JB’s daddy!
J_Gocht on June 5, 2008 at 9:55 PM
Wilford Brimly IS Gus from the McMurtry novel, “Lonesome Dove”…i love Robert Duvall but i already had brimly in my head from having read the book….also, Richard Farnsworth rather than Tommy Lee Jones.
surrounded on June 5, 2008 at 10:08 PM
J_ ya got me….man that was twisted, Brimley and sexy who woulda thunk it….brilliant!
dmann on June 5, 2008 at 10:14 PM
Robert Duvall, indeed:”Apocalypse Now” and “Secondhand Lions”.
The first on gets yah as an olde soldier…
The second as an olde Grandpa!
J_Gocht on June 5, 2008 at 10:29 PM
“Always expect the unexpected and nevertheless you’ll still be surprised”…!
J_Gocht on June 5, 2008 at 10:36 PM
J_Gocht on June 5, 2008 at 10:29 PM
When I read The Great Santini long before the movie my minds eye had Duval tossing the F4 around!
dmann on June 5, 2008 at 10:38 PM
Was that the F4 or the F14?
J_Gocht on June 5, 2008 at 10:54 PM
profitsbeard on June 5, 2008 at 7:08 PM
Ha, the CHA Media, like Che Guevara. The stories I could tell you about the latter…and how I know them…
May your nostrils prevail profitsbeard. Independent of anything political, you are a jewel of wit and learning. Thanks for being here.
Entelechy on June 5, 2008 at 11:01 PM
dmann on June 5, 2008 at 10:38 PM
J_Gocht on June 5, 2008 at 11:02 PM
Hey “E”…
I’d luv to hear some stories about “Che” circa 1962.
Drive on!
J_Gocht on June 5, 2008 at 11:19 PM
p_b… Is this the late October surprise “every ones” blogging and talking about…?
Even El-rushbo…?
J_Gocht on June 6, 2008 at 12:12 AM
J_Gocht on June 5, 2008 at 11:02 PM
The original book and movie had Meechum (Duval) in the F4, some updated depictions show an F14 on the cover which is artistic license. Jugheads can be flyboys be they squiddies at best but then there’s the zoomies who never rest! A long time ago in a galaxy far, far away…..
dmann on June 6, 2008 at 12:14 AM
Bolton is my hero for all of the reasons that his champions above have stated.
Secretary of State? Excellent! He could knock some sense into the slacker and subversive careerists.
onlineanalyst on June 6, 2008 at 12:31 AM
Mr.Bolton is the canary in the coal mine!
And,Mr.Bolton knows exactly what the stakes are
for America,as well as its leadership for that
future!
canopfor on June 6, 2008 at 12:40 AM
Hey what did I say…! I luv yah both…!
From 62 till 64… we only had “Company propeller heads” that used to shoot “hot lead” 3 to 5 hours after we “ditty-dumb-dumb dittyed” them from Saigon, [Ho Chi Minh City].
Holy Jesus, Mary and Joseph we cudda’ been overrun three times by half a regiment of NVA before those Company contract pilots dumped 30 caliber empty shell casings on our heads outta Saigon!
The thing that really impressed me the most as a professional soldier was our means of battlefield communications!
Have yah ever heard of a goddamn “fire arrow”?
Back in 1962 at Boun Deit, Pleikue Province, VN, we didn’t have any air-to-ground radio commo with our air assets out of Saigon!
Field expedience was the “mother-of invention”…!
Hell, well, shit…! We used “fire arrows”…!
They were constructed of bamboo stems about 4 inches thick and about 20 feet long. We suspended #10 tin cans filled with sand and/or a mixture of diesel fuel or oil and gasoline between the bamboo trunks.
When we heard the T26/28 “hell raising propeller heads” approaching from the “south” [Saigon] we’d match [light] the “oil pots” in the “fire arrow” and rotate the “fire arrow” toward the direction of the most direct fire being directed on the village or camp.
Those MFKER’s passed overhead multiple times dumping every last round of lead in their “biddies” not knowing were ere their rounds struck or whether they struck friend or foe!
We luved the firepower show! “Charlie” thought it was very impressive, the attack of the NVA was usually suppressed.
We all went peaceably to sleep for another night in Buon Beng/Phu Tuc in Phu Bon Province in Buon Diet village.
Gosh I luv it…when that happens like that…!
We used to “clink” Bah moi Bahs with those “Company peelots” at Mama’ Cappricio’s in Saigon, just off Tudo Street, given the chance for 72 hours out of combat… on a food/mercy fuck run, for the teamhouse!
Olde soldier sends…!
J_Gocht on June 6, 2008 at 1:41 AM
Mon apoligies…!
Mercy “jump run”...!
J_Gocht on June 6, 2008 at 2:26 AM
OK…
“Mercy jump run”
Is that better…?
J_Gocht on June 6, 2008 at 2:32 AM
Ok, Ok…
I’ll get the garbage…
My job, right…?
J_Gocht on June 6, 2008 at 2:34 AM
H&K’s
That’s not Heckler and Kochs…!
Olde soldier sends…!
J_Gocht on June 6, 2008 at 2:36 AM
H&k’s
That’s not Heckler and Kochs…!
Olde soldier sends…!
J_Gocht on June 6,2008 at 2:36AM.
J_Gocht: Make the H&K’s,an MP-5
canopfor on June 6, 2008 at 2:57 AM
“Naive and dangerous”
Not sure if Bolton is any better on that score.
lexhamfox on June 6, 2008 at 3:31 AM
Yes, i do love Bolton’s ’stache as well as his superior intellect and judgment, that someone here doesn’t acknowledge. Perhaps some kind of phobia is involved…
Christine on June 6, 2008 at 12:42 PM
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