Comments on: Wright still in charge at Trinity, even though he was supposed to retire June 1

By: right2bright

right2bright — Thu, 05 Jun 2008 17:38:46 +0000

However, when He, the Spirit of truth, has come, He will guide you into all truth; for He will not speak on His own authority, but whatever He hears He will speak; and He will tell you things to come.

John 16:13

Red Pill on June 4, 2008 at 6:45 PM

Take notice of the words “all truth”, get it? Meaning that once revealed you will speak all truth and no lies or deception…none.
So if you speak a lie or deception (like stating someone you don’t know as being unchristian) then you fail the test. Or if you jump to some conclusion that turns out to be wrong, you lose.

By: corona

corona — Thu, 05 Jun 2008 15:33:06 +0000

Moss is an ordained Baptist minister who has yet to be fully ordained in the United Church of Christ

If that’s a technicality, then Barry O is technically courageous.

By: Dr.Cwac.Cwac

Dr.Cwac.Cwac — Thu, 05 Jun 2008 13:42:53 +0000

Red Pill on June 4, 2008 at 6:56 PM

Here's the story about Nation of Islam members working in Barry's campaign. It's at WND, so take it for what it's worth.

By: abcurtis

abcurtis — Thu, 05 Jun 2008 11:45:20 +0000

If Wright is eventually forced out at TUCC, look for him to start another church just to spite Moss. That way Wright will get most if not all TUCC members and Moss will be left preaching to the choir, if there’s one left. I’ve seen it happen.

By: slp

slp — Thu, 05 Jun 2008 05:24:07 +0000

There is nothing more bloody than Protestant church congregation torn apart by power struggles of its preachers and/or leading members of the congregation. This week Trinity United Church of Christ. Next week…

It happens all the time.

jon1979’s perceptive analysis on June 4, 2008 at 6:34 PM makes this schism in the making much more important than the run of the mill congregational food fight.

By: Tel-Chai Nation

Tel-Chai Nation — Thu, 05 Jun 2008 03:45:39 +0000

Obama’s payroll includes Nation of Islam members…

Barack Obama was speaking before AIPAC a short while ago. But while he may have tried to reassure Jewish community members about his stand on Israel, I think the following discovery made by WorldNetDaily could suggest otherwise, and tell that he’s st….

By: peacenprosperity

peacenprosperity — Thu, 05 Jun 2008 01:29:34 +0000

I wonder how much of the millions of dollars of taxpayer money barry helped direct to trinity is going to build jerry’s new house. That would make a good campaign ad but it looks like the manchurian candidate isn’t going to take the fight to barry.

By: MNDavenotPC

MNDavenotPC — Wed, 04 Jun 2008 23:48:45 +0000

But, but, but……. if Wright isn’t the Pastor, how does the mansion and it’s utilities and taxes get paid for……( sarc off)

By: shooter

shooter — Wed, 04 Jun 2008 23:46:45 +0000

When you have a church so confused about the True message of Christ, I doubt any of them are listening to God.
Ego is driving all of them, wright to obama.

By: Entelechy

Entelechy — Wed, 04 Jun 2008 23:03:40 +0000

Zimbabwe at Trinity. This circus is long not over. Just another act begins.

By: CommentGuy

CommentGuy — Wed, 04 Jun 2008 23:02:03 +0000

Father Pfleger may be in trouble with more than his church superiors. Seems his church has been making political contributions. IRS sick em Danno

By: CommentGuy

CommentGuy — Wed, 04 Jun 2008 22:58:42 +0000

Pass the popcorn, guys!

newton on June 4, 2008 at 5:32 PM

Wish I could but some fool converted it all to biofuels

By: Red Pill

Red Pill — Wed, 04 Jun 2008 22:56:06 +0000

Doesn’t Barry have high level Nation of Islam people working in the campaign? Dr.Cwac.Cwac on June 4, 2008 at 6:41 PM

I don't know. But check this out.

By: Red Pill

Red Pill — Wed, 04 Jun 2008 22:54:29 +0000

Moss was ordered to tell the first person he hired — his head of communications — that she could no longer serve in the paid pastoral staff position. At least one other Trinity staffer has also been relieved of her duties in recent days. One source familiar with the situation said of Wright and the dismissals, “He doesn’t have to run it by the board.”…

To force Moss to take the first person he hired off the payroll (forcing her to leave and find a paying job) and relieving another staffer (so Moss has less help and more work to do himself) is downright cruel.

Wright doesn’t have the backbone to fire Moss directly, so he’ll make life so miserable for Moss that Moss quits on his own.

By: Red Pill

Red Pill — Wed, 04 Jun 2008 22:50:03 +0000

two years ago at a time when virtually no one thought Hillary Clinton wouldn’t be the Democrats’ nominee. jon1979 on June 4, 2008 at 6:34 PM

ITookTheRedPill on September 25, 2006. That interview was a calculated part of Hillary's campaign.

By: Red Pill

Red Pill — Wed, 04 Jun 2008 22:45:38 +0000

right2bright on June 4, 2008 at 6:30 PM

However, when He, the Spirit of truth, has come, He will guide you into all truth; for He will not speak on His own authority, but whatever He hears He will speak; and He will tell you things to come. John 16:13

By: Dr.Cwac.Cwac

Dr.Cwac.Cwac — Wed, 04 Jun 2008 22:41:07 +0000

In my opinion, it appears that…
Wright and Obama are wolves in sheeps clothing, and
TUCC is a Nation of Islam Mosque in “church” clothing.

Red Pill on June 4, 2008 at 6:36 PM

Doesn’t Barry have high level Nation of Islam people working in the campaign?

By: Red Pill

Red Pill — Wed, 04 Jun 2008 22:36:15 +0000

In my opinion, it appears that…
Wright and Obama are wolves in sheeps clothing, and
TUCC is a Nation of Islam Mosque in “church” clothing.

By: jon1979

jon1979 — Wed, 04 Jun 2008 22:34:18 +0000

This could just be an example of self-interest at work. Wright decided to retire two years ago at a time when virtually no one thought Hillary Clinton wouldn’t be the Democrats’ nominee. But with Obama’s ascendancy, this gives Wright a chance to become a A-level player on the list of racial activists, up there with Jessie, and Al, and Louis, which is something he never was before.

The chance to have your every word reverberate across the nation may just be too much for the reverend to pass up, even if by doing it, he threatens to further undermine Obama’s candidacy — and, if the split between the two in April over the National Press Club speech was real, it may be Wright would truly want the “America is racist” issue and a chance at his own national power base more than he wants a President Obama. If that’s true and Wright proceeds to throw Rev. Moss under the bus, you could see a bizarre situation where Wright continues his inflammatory speeches in hopes of gaining a national following, and gets the biggest boost from the reporting of conservative media and the Internet, while the Obama campaign says Wright is not a campaign issue any more and the big media outlets try to ignore his statements.

By: right2bright

right2bright — Wed, 04 Jun 2008 22:30:37 +0000

These self proclaimed “prophets” of God, knowing God’s wisdom…then when it doesn’t fit their perception of vision…well guess God made a mistake.
When are the Christians going to learn…it is their vision, not God’s, they wouldn’t like to see God’s vision. Remember when a man asked Christ what he could do, and Christ said give up your riches? SEEEE YAAAA!
We even have posters on here that say they have heard God tell them some candidate is going to be President. And some follow living prophets that were chosen by seniority, like some kind of prophet union. As if God wouldn’t be able to choose who he wants without a number system.
God help us.

By: jukin

jukin — Wed, 04 Jun 2008 22:20:18 +0000

Change that never happens.

By: EJDolbow

EJDolbow — Wed, 04 Jun 2008 22:19:53 +0000

“The church is splitting,” says one Trinity member.

Maybe God ain’t so keen on the damning of America after all.

By: Red Pill

Red Pill — Wed, 04 Jun 2008 22:18:38 +0000

Maybe Obama will pick Harold Ford, Jr. as his Veep.

Then there could be a new spinoff……wait for it…….

The Barack-Ford Files!

Dr.Cwac.Cwac on June 4, 2008 at 5:16 PM

Ouch.

By: Red Pill

Red Pill — Wed, 04 Jun 2008 22:14:43 +0000

Barack referred to Rev. Wright as being like a crazy uncle.

I wonder if Rev. Wright now thinks Barack is an Uncle Tom.

By: Red Pill

Red Pill — Wed, 04 Jun 2008 22:12:54 +0000

My cynical atheist heart had to smile at that boldface part

AP, I respect your honesty.