Wright still in charge at Trinity, even though he was supposed to retire June 1
posted at 5:07 pm on June 4, 2008 by Allahpundit
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As with the fallout at St. Sabina over Pfleger’s suspension, there’s no Obama angle here anymore. Does there need to be? The Obama campaign is the “Happy Days” of politics: There are so many compelling minor characters that I find myself following them into their own spin-offs, even though they don’t serve the narrative of the parent show anymore.
On today’s episode of Hate Church, Rev. Wright refuses to relinquish power to new Pastor Otis Moss, setting up a confrontation between the wise elder who thinks America created HIV and the charismatic young upstart who equates tough media coverage with lynchings.
Wright was officially to have stepped down last Sunday, June 1. And from the pulpit at 7:30 a.m. that day, Wright’s hand-picked successor, the Rev. Otis Moss III, preached what should have been his first sermon as senior pastor of Trinity, one of the Chicago’s largest congregations and among the most influential religious institutions in America. Instead, on church bulletins on June 1, Moss was identified simply as “pastor” rather than “senior pastor,” even as Wright assumed the title “pastor emeritus.” Indeed, Trinity members familiar with the developments say that on May 27, Moss was summoned to the church’s massive brown sanctuary for a meeting that included Wright, several church board members and other senior leaders. According to those sources, Moss, 37, expected the meeting to finalize transition plans. Instead, Wright suggested the board merely declare Moss “senior pastor-elect” because the younger cleric needed “supervision” — effectively ensuring Wright remains Trinity’s preacher-in-chief. Wright’s essential argument hinges on a technicality: Moss is an ordained Baptist minister who has yet to be fully ordained in the United Church of Christ, the predominantly white protestant denomination of which the roughly 8,500-member Trinity is the largest congregation.
As news of the situation traveled through the congregation, many Trinity members were baffled. “Two years ago, you felt God gave you the vision to bring Rev. Moss here,” one Trinity member said this week, referring to Wright’s explanation for hiring Moss. “Now,” the same member added, “why are you second-guessing God’s vision, and saying Rev. Moss isn’t qualified, that somehow he needs to go through more hoops?”
According to Trinity members familiar with the situation, after the May 27 meeting, Moss was ordered to tell the first person he hired — his head of communications — that she could no longer serve in the paid pastoral staff position. At least one other Trinity staffer has also been relieved of her duties in recent days. One source familiar with the situation said of Wright and the dismissals, “He doesn’t have to run it by the board.”…
“The church is splitting,” says one Trinity member. “It’s sad, because this is a case of the older leader not being prepared to pass the mantle to the new leadership, and all that the new leadership represents.”
My cynical atheist heart had to smile at that boldface part, but not just for the standard cynical reason: The idea of Wright suddenly reversing course on a handpicked spiritual advisor for his own power-seeking reasons has a certain resonance, shall we say, with the plot arc in the parent show, Everybody Loves Barack, doesn’t it? Exit question: Obama quit the church on the evening of May 31, literally hours before Wright’s tenure was supposed to end — and didn’t. One of his talking points all along has been that Wright is his former pastor, which is why he didn’t feel the need to quit Trinity. Could he have heard through the grapevine that Wright was thinking about sticking around after all, thus taking that talking point away from him and forcing his hand?
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Answer: Probably. I wouldn’t put it past Obama.
New Exit Question: Will Rezko’s guilty verdict play anywhere beyond local Chicago media?
Vatican Watcher on June 4, 2008 at 5:12 PM
These ‘revolutionary’ movements always split from within, don’t they? Will there be an Awakening at TUCC? I hope so, for the good of the congregants.
PattyJ on June 4, 2008 at 5:12 PM
Bigger than Wright Rezko is found guilty
William Amos on June 4, 2008 at 5:12 PM
Allah…. Rezko found Guilty!
upinak on June 4, 2008 at 5:13 PM
Now that’s good. Nice metaphor, AP.
mikeyboss on June 4, 2008 at 5:13 PM
The Pfleger fellow is looking for a job. He can take a page from Hezbollah in Lebanon; just march in there and take it!
RushBaby on June 4, 2008 at 5:13 PM
So would those now be the Satanic Visions?
rw on June 4, 2008 at 5:14 PM
Rev. Wright gots his new digs and needs to keep up da cash flow so he can afford his bling-bling. It’s hard out there for a brotha in goddamned America, doncha know.
Dr.Cwac.Cwac on June 4, 2008 at 5:14 PM
Maybe Obama will pick Harold Ford, Jr. as his Veep.
Then there could be a new spinoff……wait for it…….
The Barack-Ford Files!
Dr.Cwac.Cwac on June 4, 2008 at 5:16 PM
Think you may have this backwards. Wright had to “retire” so Obama could remain. Once Obama quit, Wright could have the church back. Poor dumb Otis– used.
JiangxiDad on June 4, 2008 at 5:16 PM
I saw a video (I think our “Connie” was the original source) of Rev. Moss expounding on theories every bit as wacky as Rev. Wrights. It had to do with conspiracies involving Sugar Hill Records and Ronald Reagan. It was taken down very shortly after I saw it, which was quite awhile ago.
Buy Danish on June 4, 2008 at 5:18 PM
Good one! I bet there are several others to mine as well. Barack to the Future…
mikeyboss on June 4, 2008 at 5:19 PM
Excellent observation, and one I haven’t heard mentioned elsewhere.
capitalist piglet on June 4, 2008 at 5:21 PM
To the tune of Bob Seger’s “Like a Rock”
Like Barack
I was wrong as I could be.
Like Barack
When I joined TUCC…
mikeyboss on June 4, 2008 at 5:21 PM
Interesting theory. Could get even more interesting if Moss decides he’s not going to take this lying down.
Missy on June 4, 2008 at 5:23 PM
The ‘preacher’ is staying, he needs more gold fixtures in his 10,000 sq ft home. Fox said the trial only mentioned bho a few times. They are trying to ‘put this under the bus’ as far as bho is concerned. I hope this doesn’t happen, please keep up all ‘news’ on bho and wifeee.
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letget on June 4, 2008 at 5:24 PM
I was thinking something similar, AP: perhaps the retirement itself was a sham and when Obama kicked Trinity to the curb, the retirement became unnecessary.
baldilocks on June 4, 2008 at 5:24 PM
OMG! We agree on something. :-)
baldilocks on June 4, 2008 at 5:26 PM
Obama to TUCC: Will the real pastor please shut up?
By the way, what was Rezko convicted of? Could he start singing to avoid jail, or will he sacrifice himself for Obama?
Steve Z on June 4, 2008 at 5:27 PM
I am a huge believer in those who hold sound adherence to “black liberation theology”- aka. Rev. Wright – forcing “posers” like Barry to admit where they stand, once and for all. HA! HA! HA!
More power to Rev. Wright!!!
RMR on June 4, 2008 at 5:28 PM
What’s worse is Obama and Wright had to conspire to agree on exactly when Obama would resign so that it wouldn’t be too late for Wright to get the church back.
JiangxiDad on June 4, 2008 at 5:29 PM
Pass the popcorn, guys!
newton on June 4, 2008 at 5:32 PM
This would mean that whole Wright media tour weekend with Bill Moyer, the NAACP and the Nat’l Press Club was planned. (I don’t think the latter three were in on it; just tools for Obama and Wright.)
baldilocks on June 4, 2008 at 5:34 PM
I’m just thinking out loud. I don’t mean a real conspiracy. I just mean that when Obama decided he had to call it quits finally, Wright might have said, “would you mind doing it by the 31st?” Not saying he never had the intention of leaving.
JiangxiDad on June 4, 2008 at 5:38 PM
AP,
Your cynical atheist heart may be preventing you from fully internalizing that spending 20 years in a church is not a casual association and that — to paraphrase myself — “you can take the Obama out of the Hate Church, but you can’t take the Hate Church out of the Obama.”
There is still an Obama angle here. Don’t buy Obama’s frame that leaving the church renders it irrelevant. Indeed, the “resonance” you mention demonstrates just how closely the birds flocked together for all those years before coming home to roost.
Karl on June 4, 2008 at 5:41 PM
I agree with Karl. The media may have decided that Obama’s departure from TUCC closes the issue, but voters will remember and remain interested in the goings-on there over the past 20 years, especially if 527s and alternate media keep a spotlight on it.
mikeyboss on June 4, 2008 at 5:45 PM
I didn’t say it rendered the church irrelevant. I said that this particular angle, of the Wright/Moss power play, is irrelevant — unless my theory in the exit question proves true.
Allahpundit on June 4, 2008 at 5:47 PM
The whole situation was handled dishonestly by Obama, and this is just more proof.
forest on June 4, 2008 at 5:53 PM
This sort of succession crisis is not uncommon. A charismatic, well-established leader isn’t ready to give up the spotlight to his anointed successor. (That was at least one of the problems with Hillary Clinton’s campaign.)
The same sort of thing happened at First Baptist Church of Dallas in the early ’90s. W. A. Criswell had been pastor there for 46 years. He brought in Joel Gregory as his successor in 1990, with the stated intention of retiring after a brief transition. Instead, Criswell kept delaying his departure, overshadowing Gregory and undercutting his authority, until Gregory got fed up and quit in 1992. Gregory wrote a book about the experience, and someone wrote a play called God’s Man in Texas.
Michael Bates on June 4, 2008 at 5:58 PM
You don’t spend 20 years listening to race baiters, letting them school your children, baptise them, and provide them with spiritual instruction just for politics.
Obama is a great actor. Most politicians are. But he must believe the message of Wright, Pfleger and company. Obama is no fool, he is demonstrably capable of critical thought and analysis.
Against that background what I find slightly unsettling is that his response to criticism is projection – to label all his detractors ‘distractions’ and to get his supporters to label them ‘haters’.
I see a lot of hate in Obama as a result. No one need fear any kind of cultural or ethnic pogrom as I doubt he has the balls let alone the mind to execute anything of the kind, but he is an intelligent man who has kept some very bad company indeed for a long long time – and he has kept that company of his own volition, fully cognizant of what he was doing.
For all the smooth talk and the smooth lies about hope and change I can’t help but see a very very angry man. Should he win it will be fascinating to see how he vents his anger. From the little I can see, his wife seems equally angry.
Strange given the privilege they enjoy but for them one suspects this is a truly personal anger, not a ’cause’ in the sense that it involves others.
Ares on June 4, 2008 at 6:02 PM
Rev. Wright is not about to give up control of TUCC’s video archive. It could be worth millions.
meci on June 4, 2008 at 6:03 PM
Wright is the prototypical Democrat Marxist Socialist. Once in power, they never want to give it up.
Dr.Cwac.Cwac on June 4, 2008 at 6:04 PM
Great point! It might show that Barry could be fibbing about not knowing that Wright has these beliefs. Maybe there’s video of Barry in the congregation during one of his better “sermons”.
Dr.Cwac.Cwac on June 4, 2008 at 6:05 PM
AP shoots and scores. Three pointer. (speaking of hoops)
Red Pill on June 4, 2008 at 6:11 PM
AP, I respect your honesty.
Red Pill on June 4, 2008 at 6:12 PM
Barack referred to Rev. Wright as being like a crazy uncle.
I wonder if Rev. Wright now thinks Barack is an Uncle Tom.
Red Pill on June 4, 2008 at 6:14 PM
Ouch.
Red Pill on June 4, 2008 at 6:18 PM
Maybe God ain’t so keen on the damning of America after all.
EJDolbow on June 4, 2008 at 6:19 PM
Change that never happens.
jukin on June 4, 2008 at 6:20 PM
These self proclaimed “prophets” of God, knowing God’s wisdom…then when it doesn’t fit their perception of vision…well guess God made a mistake.
When are the Christians going to learn…it is their vision, not God’s, they wouldn’t like to see God’s vision. Remember when a man asked Christ what he could do, and Christ said give up your riches? SEEEE YAAAA!
We even have posters on here that say they have heard God tell them some candidate is going to be President. And some follow living prophets that were chosen by seniority, like some kind of prophet union. As if God wouldn’t be able to choose who he wants without a number system.
God help us.
right2bright on June 4, 2008 at 6:30 PM
This could just be an example of self-interest at work. Wright decided to retire two years ago at a time when virtually no one thought Hillary Clinton wouldn’t be the Democrats’ nominee. But with Obama’s ascendancy, this gives Wright a chance to become a A-level player on the list of racial activists, up there with Jessie, and Al, and Louis, which is something he never was before.
The chance to have your every word reverberate across the nation may just be too much for the reverend to pass up, even if by doing it, he threatens to further undermine Obama’s candidacy — and, if the split between the two in April over the National Press Club speech was real, it may be Wright would truly want the “America is racist” issue and a chance at his own national power base more than he wants a President Obama. If that’s true and Wright proceeds to throw Rev. Moss under the bus, you could see a bizarre situation where Wright continues his inflammatory speeches in hopes of gaining a national following, and gets the biggest boost from the reporting of conservative media and the Internet, while the Obama campaign says Wright is not a campaign issue any more and the big media outlets try to ignore his statements.
jon1979 on June 4, 2008 at 6:34 PM
In my opinion, it appears that…
Wright and Obama are wolves in sheeps clothing, and
TUCC is a Nation of Islam Mosque in “church” clothing.
Red Pill on June 4, 2008 at 6:36 PM
Doesn’t Barry have high level Nation of Islam people working in the campaign?
Dr.Cwac.Cwac on June 4, 2008 at 6:41 PM
Red Pill on June 4, 2008 at 6:45 PM
ITookTheRedPill on September 25, 2006.
That interview was a calculated part of Hillary’s campaign.
Red Pill on June 4, 2008 at 6:50 PM
To force Moss to take the first person he hired off the payroll (forcing her to leave and find a paying job) and relieving another staffer (so Moss has less help and more work to do himself) is downright cruel.
Wright doesn’t have the backbone to fire Moss directly, so he’ll make life so miserable for Moss that Moss quits on his own.
Red Pill on June 4, 2008 at 6:54 PM
I don’t know. But check this out.
Red Pill on June 4, 2008 at 6:56 PM
Wish I could but some fool converted it all to biofuels
CommentGuy on June 4, 2008 at 6:58 PM
Father Pfleger may be in trouble with more than his church superiors.
Seems his church has been making political contributions.
IRS sick em Danno
CommentGuy on June 4, 2008 at 7:02 PM
Zimbabwe at Trinity. This circus is long not over. Just another act begins.
Entelechy on June 4, 2008 at 7:03 PM
When you have a church so confused about the True message of Christ, I doubt any of them are listening to God.
Ego is driving all of them, wright to obama.
shooter on June 4, 2008 at 7:46 PM
But, but, but……. if Wright isn’t the Pastor, how does the mansion and it’s utilities and taxes get paid for……( sarc off)
MNDavenotPC on June 4, 2008 at 7:48 PM
I wonder how much of the millions of dollars of taxpayer money barry helped direct to trinity is going to build jerry’s new house. That would make a good campaign ad but it looks like the manchurian candidate isn’t going to take the fight to barry.
peacenprosperity on June 4, 2008 at 9:29 PM
There is nothing more bloody than Protestant church congregation torn apart by power struggles of its preachers and/or leading members of the congregation. This week Trinity United Church of Christ. Next week…
It happens all the time.
jon1979’s perceptive analysis on June 4, 2008 at 6:34 PM makes this schism in the making much more important than the run of the mill congregational food fight.
slp on June 5, 2008 at 1:24 AM
If Wright is eventually forced out at TUCC, look for him to start another church just to spite Moss. That way Wright will get most if not all TUCC members and Moss will be left preaching to the choir, if there’s one left. I’ve seen it happen.
abcurtis on June 5, 2008 at 7:45 AM
Here’s the story about Nation of Islam members working in Barry’s campaign. It’s at WND, so take it for what it’s worth.
Dr.Cwac.Cwac on June 5, 2008 at 9:42 AM
If that’s a technicality, then Barry O is technically courageous.
corona on June 5, 2008 at 11:33 AM
Take notice of the words “all truth”, get it? Meaning that once revealed you will speak all truth and no lies or deception…none.
So if you speak a lie or deception (like stating someone you don’t know as being unchristian) then you fail the test. Or if you jump to some conclusion that turns out to be wrong, you lose.
right2bright on June 5, 2008 at 1:38 PM
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